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Taibbi writes: "It's hard to say whether it's good or bad that the Rushes of the world are too clueless to realize that it's their attitude, not their policies, that is screwing them most with minority voters."

Rush Limbaugh speaks in Missouri. (photo: Julie Smith/AP)
Rush Limbaugh speaks in Missouri. (photo: Julie Smith/AP)Rush Limbaugh speaks in Missouri. (photo: Julie Smith/AP)


Hey Rush Limbaugh, Attitude Not Tokens Get Minority Votes

By Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

10 November 12

 

ike a lot of people, I listened to Rush Limbaugh the day after the election. Pure Schadenfreude, I admit it; I just wanted to hear the reaction. I searched the right-wing media landscape far and wide and tried to find even a hint of self-examination, self-criticism, and I didn't find much. Then again, they didn't lose the presidential vote by much, so they didn't take the election result as a total repudiation of their belief system, as they probably shouldn't have, anyway.

But some introspection was probably in order, particularly with the question - soon to become the dominant question in American major party-politics - of what the Republicans have to do to do better with women and minorities. They dominated with white males, but lagged with almost all other groups.

Rush addressed the question with a long, passionate soliloquy. It was fascinating. Let me excerpt it here. He began with the difficult (for him) admission that his party is not doing well with minority groups. The emphasis here is mine:

It's being said once once again that the Republicans have an outreach problem, that we don't have Hispanics, we don't have blacks, and we don't have women and it's... Okay, fine, we don't, what are we supposed to do?

From there he self-apostrophizes, asking what the Republicans need to do to get those votes. He answers the question in a mocking tone that in fact is the entire source of his problem - the very answer to his question is drop the freaking sarcasm when you talk about minorities and minority issues, and you just might get their votes - but he's so psychologically well-defended that this never occurs to him, and he just plows on. Note the excellent homage here to the "Get the fuck out of here/No, I'm serious!" routine from Beverly Hills Cop:

Are we supposed to embrace amnesty? No, no, no, I'm being serious! We have achieved [sic], brilliant, intelligent, accomplished African Americans, Hispanics, you name it - throughout the Republican party. It doesn't count! It doesn't count with the media, it doesn't count with the Democratic party, it doesn't count with Obama supporters.

Here he pauses, then goes on some more, wondering, hilariously, why it isn't enough just to have Condi Rice in the tent. Again, the emphasis is mine:

It doesn't count. Why not? Why, putting it coarsely, doesn't the Republican Party get credit for Condoleeza Rice? Why doesn't the Republican Party get credit for Marco Rubio? Why doesn't the Republican Party get credit for Suzanne Martinez...?

I could throw these examples out there for you all afternoon. Why don't those people, the Marco Rubios, the Alan Wests... What a great man, what a great American, what a great role model! Clarence Thomas! Herman Cain! None of it counts. Tell me the Republican party doesn't have outreach - we do!

But what are supposed to do, in order to get the Hispanic vote now? Does that mean, open the borders and embrace the illegals? I want you to think about this. So - the Republican establishment, does that mean, if we're not getting the female vote, do we become pro-choice? Do we have to start giving out birth control pills? Is that what we have to do?

This next part is awesome. He again asks the "isn't it enough to have Condoleeza Rice" question, and here even supplies an answer - it should be enough, because, get this: she's not just black and a woman, she's WELL-SPOKEN! He actually plays the "well-spoken" card:

Okay, if that's what we have to do, pretend we're doing it. Pretend that in the next couple of weeks, couple of months, the Republican Party announces that it is for contraception being given out by the state, and in fact the Catholic Church must give contraception away and make abortion available. Are we going to get the votes Obama got last night. We're not? Really, we're not?

We won't. But we're not getting the votes that Obama got last night because we have Condoleeza Rice - and she is a pinnacle of achievement, and intelligent, and well-spoken . . . You can't find a more accomplished person. Marco Rubio. And really, speaking in street lingo, we're not getting credit for it. Now is it that Republicans are looking for credit? And it's not perceived as genuine? Are these people perceived as tokens?

The fish is swimming with the line way out to sea at this point . . . Just let him run, he's tiring himself out:

And the white Republican establishment is putting these people out front, but they really don't believe that Marco Rubio is that good of a deal. Window dressing! If that's the perception of Obama voters, than how do we change that?

And he concludes here by offering mock suggestions for how to win back the votes lost in such huge numbers Tuesday night among almost all groups but white men:

Youth, the youth vote! I tell you what we should do, let's announce, starting around Christmastime, so that we can get close to being Santa Claus ourselves, let's announce that we are for the legalization of marijuana, and that as a party we're in favor of forgiving all student loans . . . Is that how we do it?

All these examples . . . Latinos! We're not going to get the Latino vote by opening the borders and saying, you know what? Let anybody in who wants to come in.

Women. Let's start our own abortion industry. Let's go out and get the women's vote. I just want you to think, would that work?

There's been a lot of hand-wringing among conservatives of the Rush/Hannity school in the last few days, a lot of concern about this outreach question, and honestly, the tone of the discussion is beginning to sound like the last days of a failed 1950s marriage. The husband who's gone all day at work comes home and throws his hands up in the air in mock frustration: what do you want from me, another Cadillac? Another fur coat? I just got you new shoes last week!

And the wife, who's loved this man for 20 years despite his abject stupidity, just sighs. All she wants her husband to do is listen to her, or take a day off work sometime and take her for a drive in the country, or make some spontaneous show of affection, maybe popping home for lunch like in the old days - just some evidence that he's even faintly aware of what's going on in her head. But when they try to talk it out, things just get worse, because in his very manner of asking her what's wrong, all hubby does is reveal that he thinks of his wife entirely as a nagging, financial parasite who's always on his ass about something.

Similarly, the fact that so many Republicans this week think that all Hispanics care about is amnesty, all women want is abortions (and lots of them) and all teenagers want is to sit on their couches and smoke tons of weed legally, that tells you everything you need to know about the hopeless, anachronistic cluelessness of the modern Republican Party. A lot of these people, believe it or not, would respond positively, or at least with genuine curiosity, to the traditional conservative message of self-reliance and fiscal responsibility.

But modern Republicans will never be able to spread that message effectively, because they have so much of their own collective identity wrapped up in the belief that they're surrounded by free-loading, job-averse parasites who not only want to smoke weed and have recreational abortions all day long, but want hardworking white Christians like them to pay the tab. Their whole belief system, which is really an endless effort at congratulating themselves for how hard they work compared to everyone else (by the way, the average "illegal," as Rush calls them, does more real work in 24 hours than people like Rush and me do in a year), is inherently insulting to everyone outside the tent - and you can't win votes when you're calling people lazy, stoned moochers.

It's hard to say whether it's good or bad that the Rushes of the world are too clueless to realize that it's their attitude, not their policies, that is screwing them most with minority voters. If they were self-aware at all, Mitt Romney would probably be president right now. So I guess we should be grateful that the light doesn't look like it will ever go on. But wow, is their angst tough to listen to.

 

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+208 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2012-11-10 13:48
A well-written masterpiece of an article once again, Matt. You definitely NAILED IT! Let's just take examples like Rushbo, "Vannity," Coultergeist, just to name a few and multiply them by 10 million; that's 30 million too many fools to fix! People must first want to CHANGE THEMSELVES!!! The world and time has passed these diehards by. Worse yet, MANY OF THEM believe there is a chance to RETURN TO THE "OLD WAYS." NONE THESE PEOPLE ARE CHRISTIANS, no matter what they profess! This past Tuesday's elections proved how POWERFUL "WE THE PEOPLE" CAN BE when we rise up and UNITE. The list of brown people that the "drugster" called out are nothing but pawns of the party with LIMITED power. I read about a complaint from some African-America n GOP backers that they had only 50 delegates seated at the RNC in Tampa. Yet I hear them bellowing over the airwaves about how AA-voters should "flee" the democratic party and "become republicans." What ever for? Matt, you are right about the R's needing their "tokens" positioned just visibly enough to keep their racist agenda from being too obvious. You CAN'T FIX STUPID, because STUPID IS TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED! 'Nuff said.
 
 
+72 # chicagoflygirls 2012-11-10 17:09
Marco Rubio seriously needs to become an Independent.... right now. And get away from these bozos.
 
 
-80 # RLF 2012-11-11 05:28
We may have done better than Romney but not left by far. The O is right there with Bush senior and Raygun. Force me to buy insurance or be fined! Really left! What an accomplishment. What a cost container!
 
 
+80 # Todd Williams 2012-11-11 08:06
You still don't get it, do you? You sure as hell don't understand the Affordable health Care Act. And you know waht? We are getting damn sick and tired of explaining it to you and your ilk. I give up. If you don't get it by now, you never will. And I don't really give a shit anymore.
 
 
+7 # bmiluski 2012-11-12 16:46
Yeah, I agree. Why buy when you can simply walk into an ER and end up giving us the bill.
 
 
+2 # soularddave 2012-11-14 00:12
Walk-in ER care is NOT the same without insurance. My broken hand was not set properly or with proper anesthetic. There was no follow up like physical therapy. Turns out it was set improperly, besides, because there were too few x-rays taken.

Eventually, I did pay the bill, but I found out that they also were paid by the government.
 
 
+188 # hilo 2012-11-10 14:14
I can't pass up a chance to read Taibbi's wonderful rants. They're not just well-written, they let me know about Romney's Bain world and Limbaugh's arrogant statements about the social order in which we live.
 
 
+160 # Barbara K 2012-11-10 15:40
TAP: You said it all, and I totally agree. The likes of the Limbulls are too stupid to make so much money. They are a scourge on our society and divide the country like nothing else can. Maybe they will just fade into the sunset soon. We can't fix Stupid, but we don't have to look at them or listen to them.
 
 
+160 # LeeBlack 2012-11-10 15:45
It's said that the definition of sanity is being able to look in the mirror and see (and accept) reality. The Republicans don't seem to be able to do this, which would indicate that they aren't sane.

It's well to remember that the Republican Primary was "give us any one except Mitt." Still 48% of the voters voted for Romney.

They won't see this as cause for ideological re-examination. They will think they have to do a better job of doing anything to win: more money; more voter suppression; more ALEC style local politics.

In the glow of Tuesday elections we liberals need to move to ensure elections that are fair.
 
 
+101 # jon 2012-11-10 16:41
"In the glow of Tuesday elections we liberals need to move to ensure elections that are fair."

Indeed. Getting money out of elections seems like an impossibility, but legislation to ensure fair elections is the first must do.
 
 
+57 # Okieangels 2012-11-10 21:07
And I would say that that should be followed by creating a standard ballot to be used in all national elections that can't possibly be tampered with.
 
 
-42 # RLF 2012-11-11 05:32
We need to limit campaigning to 6 weeks, like the Brits. Have two phase elections like the Ozzies. We need to do a lot of things in this country but we got nothing in Washington but corporate stooges. Obama doesn't need to get re-elected but he does want a job to make millions after he gets out...that is what he works for now...and who he works for always.
 
 
+4 # bmiluski 2012-11-12 16:49
Do you really think president Obama will be looking for a job when he finishes his term. Name me a modern day president that went on to getting a job.
 
 
+217 # LeeBlack 2012-11-10 15:48
Holding forth Allen West as the epitome of Republican "greatness" is terrifying.
 
 
+96 # carp 2012-11-10 17:34
Quoting LeeBlack:
Holding forth Allen West as the epitome of Republican "greatness" is terrifying.

and telling
 
 
+125 # Dumbledorf 2012-11-10 15:59
Is there anything new about Rush Limbo that can be said -- A shiftless bum who started out as a "lounge-lizard" playing his one-man comedy act in dinner clubs in 1974 to the multi, multi millionare and defacto head of the republican party today, who believes his own spiel and rhetoric as though it were something akin to the truth.

They even have a statue erected to this elitist panderer in Jefferson City, Mo as though he were of great consequence.

Can anyone name one thing Rush Limbo has done that has truly helped America?
Has he ever done anything other than polarize our Country?

He's certainly helped himself to the tune of about 500 million dollars, but how are we improved by his propaganda and comedy routine?
 
 
+38 # mdhome 2012-11-10 20:48
All he has done is polarize the country and made a lot of money doing it, he has done it for so long, he continues to believe it will still work and made so much money in the past, there is no reason to change. I kinda hope he does not change, he is the best person to help the democrats
 
 
+20 # rockieball 2012-11-11 15:51
He was one time worked for the Kansas City Royals baseball team. Everyone hated him, he knew nothing about baseball. Once on opening day he announced the celeb who was to throw out the first pitch. But he forgot to bring the special autograph ball with him. He said he forgot where he put it. It was later discovered in his office closet under a glass case. So he say's over the mike "Does anyone here have a baseball?"
Which was followed by about 60 balls thrown from both dugouts by the players. Rush was relieved from the job by mid season.
 
 
+84 # maddave 2012-11-10 16:03
For years, the pregnant message was there for all to see: Afro Americans and Latinos---both curiously overlooked by the GOP and taken-for-grant ed by the Dems---have grown into national political powers to be reckoned with. However, up until as late as 11:15 EST, 6 November 2012, America's conservative socio-political Luddites believed and behaved as if Barrack Hussain Obama were an anomaly who could easily be overcome by any well financed white christian(sic) Male . . . even a Mormon.

At 11:15 EST on 6 November 2012 the message that Obama was no anomaly was curtly delivered. The loss threw our modern Mississippi-min ded Dixiecrats, Boll Weevils & Peckerwoods into shock and disbelief. Their most fervent beliefs blew up in their faces - they disintegrated. Despite all of their power, pelf and propaganda to the contrary, the unthinkable happened! An uppity (black man from Chicago) "had-just-ate" their lunch right off of their plate and at their own dinner table.

It will take years- if ever - for the right wing faithful to realize that their arsenal of racial code words, their recruitment of trophy tokens and their general derision of minorities are the best selling points that the Democrats have working for them.
 
 
-72 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-10 19:40
Excellent ... now this should be published in Ebony

Funny thing ...Blacks were closed own or turned out in Boll Weevil land yet tooooo many of them bend over to be one.

Time the Blacks, and all supposed 'minoirities' get their own Party together and really weevilize the south.
 
 
+27 # reiverpacific 2012-11-11 10:58
Quoting KittatinyHawk:
Excellent ... now this should be published in Ebony

Funny thing ...Blacks were closed own or turned out in Boll Weevil land yet tooooo many of them bend over to be one.

Time the Blacks, and all supposed 'minoirities' get their own Party together and really weevilize the south.

Eh? In English please.
 
 
+8 # L mac 2012-11-11 20:06
With a comment like that you truly are part of the problem. I feel empty toward you.
 
 
+6 # Okieangels 2012-11-10 21:10
Wow, I didn't even know that "pelf" was a word.
 
 
+6 # maddave 2012-11-11 07:46
Look it up. With government as it is, "pelf" ios a word that ought to ben in everybody's vocabulary.I
 
 
-27 # RLF 2012-11-11 05:35
If O is black, Ive seen little evidence of it. I voted for the black candidate in the first election and was sorely disappointed with what arrived.
 
 
+12 # maddave 2012-11-11 23:03
Quote: I voted for the black candidate in the first election and was sorely disappointed with what arrived. Unquote

That's exactly your problem, RLF. Next time do not vote the candidate based upon his color and do not look for stereotypical performance.
 
 
+22 # Merschrod 2012-11-11 06:32
Quoting maddave:
Their most fervent beliefs blew up in their faces - they disintegrated. Despite all of their power, pelf and propaganda to the contrary, the unthinkable happened!.


Let's not get carried away - 48% of the American voters believed enough (in Mitt or were against enough Obama)to vote for the Republican line. I'll bet that all the Republicans will want to tinker with is that 10% of the middle ground to do better the next time. Those of us in the 47% will not count. Our chore from the left should be how to shrink the bigoted and retro-folks to only 25% of the population. We have our work cut out for us!
 
 
+17 # maddave 2012-11-11 08:22
[quote .Let's not get carried away - 48% of the American voters believed enough (in Mitt or were against enough Obama) to vote for the Republican line.

Granted. However, I submit that a significant portion of Romney's 48% can be attributed to a deep-set longing ---particularly in the deep South--- for a return to the good ol' days, pre Lyndon Johnson, Rosa Parks & Selma. Since day one, I have maintained that ---were Obama white ---his margin of victory would have been on par with Reagan's in 1980 ... an election which ALSO strong carried racial overtones. Do you recall his "Democrats for Reagan" or Nixon's "Southern Strategy"??

I leave you with two questions:
1. What concrete proposals did Romney offer as reasons for We The People to suport him?
2. What concrete reasons did Obama give We The People to vote AGAINST him?
 
 
+15 # herman_the_german 2012-11-11 10:46
In four years, a few of those 48% will be dead, and more young people (including White, Black, Female, Asian, Latino citizens) will be of voting age.

Many of them are getting it into their minds that Hillary is a good next presidential candidate.

That should have sunk in and ripened by then, regardless of millions or billions of superPAC money against her.

It's slow but certain demographics that are turning the tide.
 
 
+1 # L mac 2012-11-11 20:09
...but you forget that nature is on our side, they will die out...
 
 
+5 # Cassandra2012 2012-11-11 14:24
And that WOMEN were fully human, and deserved to be treated and acknowledged as such!!
 
 
+7 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-11 20:05
Note to GOP: Women are people in disguise.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2012-11-12 13:23
Blacks and Latinos who are smart, and good policy makers have alot of work to do.... facing the small army of losers the Repubs trot out as token "people of color" over the next 4 years. Marco Rubio should become an Independent. Now. If he has any character at all, otherwise he will be leading a very rag tag band of losers. Women have same problem....leav ing the field to people like Bachman is not a good move for your future or your country.
 
 
+69 # erogers 2012-11-10 16:25
As much as we readers hate to hear the voice of the bombastic Fat Hermann (aka Limbaugh) clone we need to let him continue to spew his hate and ignorance. Why? The empty headed stupid republicans who hod their heads at his every word will continue to age and die off and continue to vote for the right wing nuts Limbaugh endorses until they die. Attrition will prevail and the republican party will go extinct just like the dinosaurs that they are. The party will have the significance of a fart in a hurricane. As the republican party gets weaker the Progressive movement gets stronger. (sorry but I refuse to capitalize the word republican).
 
 
+20 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-10 19:44
Not Dinosaurs....sl ime not dinosaurs.

Republicans are Republicans...t here is not comparison to any Creature that is fair to the Creature.

Yes may the become extinct like the animals they have killed, float to the bottom of the water like the poison they dumped, become enmeshed with the plastic island they helped create. They are no longer an acceptable being. Out Out Dam Spots....
 
 
+4 # erogers 2012-11-11 07:58
[quote name="Kittatiny Hawk"]Not Dinosaurs....sl ime not dinosaurs.

How true. As a retired geologist I owe an apology to dinosaurs, they were rather wonderful. All right everyone, what entity can we use to describe Limbaugh and the rest of the hate and greed mongers.
 
 
+3 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-11 20:09
While it takes two wings to fly an eagle, the right wing has devolved, through right wing media, into:

pond scumb
sleeze
low-life
denizens of the Outer Limits
 
 
+2 # Texas Aggie 2012-11-11 21:27
Entamoeba histolytica
 
 
+78 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2012-11-10 16:27
Limbaugh once applied for government assistance but now blames his wife at the time for making him do it.

You can't explain these people to themselves. They don't want to learn, because learning would mean letting go of their delusions, and their delusions are the basis of their self-concept. They're walking-talking Psych 101 case-studies in projection and authoritarian personality syndrome.
 
 
+3 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-11 20:23
Limblow can't know how he sounds... Can he? Talk about tokenism! Outreach? If you enact policies that actually benefit voters, you don't need outreach; they come to you. Why would ANYONE vote against their own self-interests?

My question is: If Rush is so rich, why does he look so...uncouth?
 
 
+48 # bingers 2012-11-10 16:45
Well, the OxyMoron is at it again? Ain't it sweet knowing your opposition is insane?
 
 
+25 # Okieangels 2012-11-10 21:14
Sweet? Well, maybe. I live in Oklahoma, second only to Utah and Wyoming for Romney voters. You do kind of have to worry what they'll do when they really go off the deep end.
 
 
+4 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-11 20:11
Okie, if there were a Nobel Good Sport prize, you would definitely be considered for a recipient.
 
 
+4 # Texas Aggie 2012-11-11 21:30
Amen to that!!!
 
 
+51 # PrinceDarrell 2012-11-10 16:46
Their attitude sucks, but so does their policies. Climate change isn't real. No it is real, but it is not man made. Tax cuts create jobs. Wealthy people shouldnt have to pay even the same amount of tax as poor people. How dare you give the mildest of punishments to people who are making money, even if they are breaking laws. Welfare is bad, except to corporations. Bush went from deficit to surplus in 8 years, if Obama doesnt clean it up in 4, with them fighting tooth and nail against every single step forward, then the entire problem is all his fault.

It makes a mockery of conservative values. I think they do have a place at the table discussion, but Republican stances dont.
 
 
+7 # Cassandra2012 2012-11-11 14:29
"Conservative values" = an oxymoron; and these so-called 'conservatives' are really right wing RADICAL extremists, ready to tear out democracy by its ROOTS.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-11-11 18:15
Conservative values are what conservatives trade on the stock exchange.
 
 
+21 # HerbR 2012-11-10 16:47
Just what did you expect from him, anyway ?
 
 
+40 # reiverpacific 2012-11-10 16:55
"All I want for Christmas are some new hate-glands"!
Like Hitler, Limp-balls and his ilk never really learn and don't want to change; maybe are constitutionall y incapable. -It's always everybody else's fault and they've let their cheerleaders and super-PACs down by not doing it right or being dirty enough.
Old Yorkshire saying, "They's all daft but thee and me and thee's a but funny".
What else do you expect from people who howl one-way epithets and scream falsehoods from a safe, comfortable studio at an audience who are incapable of entering into a state of critical thinking and follow the shepherd to the slaughterhouse of free-thought. -And who shun any kind of debate.
"The honest man, though e'r sae poor, he looks and laughs at a' that". Robert Burns.
No wonder they don't want improvements in public education; they'd really be without an audience then.
By the way, I thought motor-mouth/Via gra-man threatened to move to Costa Rica "If Obamacare passed". Maybe somebody told him that they have universal healthcare there.
Another candidate for sequestering at the Bush compound in Paraguay. Sorry to belabor this but it's a delicious thought; -all those disgruntled out-of work reactionaries sweating it out in the jungle or on the Pampas, including the ones on RSN and around where I live who have been suggesting that I "move back to Europe immediately".
 
 
+4 # Cassandra2012 2012-11-11 14:31
All crypto-fascists , every one, especially the wizard behind the curtain, the wannnabe dictator, Grover Norquist.
 
 
+64 # Robert B 2012-11-10 16:59
The Republican Party has spent almost every day since the end of World War II finding other Americans to demonize: communists. dope smokers, anti-war protesters, unions, welfare queens, eco-nuts, Hispanics, Muslims, atheists, gays. Lately they seem to have come back around to communists, which they think Obama is. Just as Eisenhower was attacked by Joe McCarthy for being soft on communism, so is Obama attacked as being a communist whose policies are, in fact, very similar to Eisenhower's. Recently, the Republican Party has decided to antagonize women, who are NOT a minority group, but 51% of the nation.

The Republican Party is behaving like a mad dog, crazed with paranoia, snarling at everyone. Why would anyone vote for such a party? This election gives hope that people have finally caught on.
 
 
+46 # freeportguy 2012-11-10 17:02
Rushbo is all for personal responsibility. ..by OTHERS...

The contemptuous way he wants to attract minorities (We have Marco Rubio, isn't this enough? What else do you want?) is simply repulsive from disrespect.
 
 
+47 # BobboMax 2012-11-10 17:09
I keep wondering why people like Rush keep asking what the Republican party is supposed to do differently. Nothing! Doesn't he get it? Republicans are SUPPOSED to be assholes! That's who they are. They're supposed to make insulting remarks about rape. They're supposed to compliment Ms. Rice for being a credit to her race. Birds gotta fly, tigers gotta bite, Republicans gotta be thoughtless jerks. It's in their DNA. They're supposed to keep binders full of women. (But I do have to ask about all these Republican women- isn't about time for you to come out of your binders and be real 3-dimensional women?)

Anyway, don't worry about the Republicans- they're a dying breed. Like most extinct species, they don't see it coming. They'll cause a lot of pain between now and then and I doubt there's much to do about that except hurry them down the road. I guess the only serious question is whether they're covered under the Endangered Species Act. Do we need to reserve some protected habitat for them, say in Southern Arizona?
 
 
+10 # Okieangels 2012-11-10 21:20
By all accounts, Arizona used to be a nice place...don't send'em there.
 
 
+8 # Merschrod 2012-11-11 06:40
Bobbo, That is a colorful description all right. ON the Binders full of women - the binding of women, like the binding of their feet, should be banned in the USA!

Again, we may wish that they be an endangers species, but I am afraid that they are not; they should be considered and invasive species - constant weeding will always be necessary.
 
 
+62 # Billy Bob 2012-11-10 17:13
President Obama beat mitt by over 2.5 million votes. That's more than bush won in '04. In '04, as Reductio Ad Absurdum mentioned on another thread, bush told us he had a "mandate" and intended to cash it in.

Think about this:

'12 Obama won
'08 Obama won
'04 bush won (probably by stealing Ohio, AND during a "war" which he started and people were too afraid to speak up against)
'00 bush LOST the popular vote by 1/2 a million
'96 Clinton won
'92 Clinton won
'88 - the last time a republican candidate viably and believably won a presidential election. Even that was, at least in part, due to the big lie about Willie Horton. Notice that that big lie was racist in nature.

---------

As we speak the ONLY reason repugs control the House is that they managed to gerrymander the map after winning in '10. The only reason they won in '10 was because angry LEFT-wing morons (such as ME) stayed home to punish the Democratic Party for not magically enacting all of our agenda as quickly as we naïvely thought possible.
 
 
+8 # maddave 2012-11-11 23:09
Bravo, Billy Bob. So few of us now-a-days are man enough to admit a mistake, and fewer still take responsibility for their misy takes.

Good comments!
 
 
+35 # scottyp 2012-11-10 17:17
Is there anyone, anywhere who doubts that Limbaugh would be a liberal if it paid better than being a conservative? He doesn't believe the bullshit he spouts any more than any of us. It's all about the money.
 
 
+20 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-10 19:47
We do not want him
 
 
+13 # Okieangels 2012-11-10 21:25
If you read up a bit about Rush's childhood in Cape Girardeau, MO, you might well change your mind. I do believe a good deal of the drivel that he spews is his genuine opinion. At one time he might well have been more civil and polite than he is now, but I don't believe for one minute that he's not genuine.
 
 
+3 # maddave 2012-11-11 23:20
Quote: I don't believe for one minute that he's not genuine.Unquote

Limpbaugh? Genuine? Surely you jest.

But, in re-thinking your word "genuine", you are correct; he's a genuine builshit artist, a genuine sociopath, a genuine doper, a genuine porker, a genuine demagogue . . . . Let me count the ways.

A genuine sociopath, genuine demagogue and genuine
 
 
+4 # maddave 2012-11-11 23:11
Limpbaugh is NOT paid to believe all of his own bullshit. He's p[id to get US to believe it.

We need to give him a pay cut.
 
 
+18 # tahoevalleylines 2012-11-10 17:18
For Lack Of Vision My People Perish...

Rushbo & Coulter can be excused from knowing that article of wisdom, but what about the Rev. Huckabee?

Herbert Hoover greased the skids for the New deal with elegant Bay Bridges, TVA and Hoover Dam projects in the works when he handed off to FDR.

Few modern Republicans, near zero Tea Potters, can carry on a discussion about aquifer depletion or the economics (EIOER) of energy. We NEED all political players in on engineering savvy discussions ASAP!

NAWAPA is easy to search and research the individual engineering components making up a truly grand solution to drought, saltwater intrusion and loss of food independence.

Energy Independence must include renewables directly linked to and grown with, local railway platform and service interface. Book: "Electric Water" gives methodology & rationale.

EMP threat is real and so, needful water and transport engineering must include Faraday cage provision for vulnerable solid state components in the various control facilities and sites.

Hopefully next CIA Director & Homeland Security planning team are familiar with these essentials.

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It remains to be seen if the Republicans as a matter of vision and awareness of legacy bring grand engineering solutions into the USA economic solution set... How many Professional/Ci vil Engineers call themselves members of the Tea Party Patriots" or other like affiliated organizations?
 
 
+7 # in deo veritas 2012-11-10 18:22
Thank you for mentioning NAWAPA. That and Glass-Steagall are the only tools we have for survival. So far Obama has been against Glass-Steagall to the amazement of many Democrats and even some Republicans which makes one wonder if he is not in league with Wall Street!
 
 
+40 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-11-10 17:20
Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove met on the roof of a 60 story sky scrapper to discuss the results of the election, and to lay blame where they thought it should go. They got into a bit of a shoving match as they played the blame game with gusto. It got a bit out of hand, and then got a bit more out of hand.
Finally, as the ranting and raving came to a boiling point, and the fists were flying fast & furious; as they edged closer and closer to the edge of the roof, they both tumbled over the parapet and fell 60 stories to the pavement.

Their fellow pundits, being true scientists, able to calculate the number of angels that could fit on the head of a pin, tried to predict who would hit the pavement first, Rush or Karl. They took into consideration the relative weight of each; the force of the wind at that time of day, the clothes that each were wearing, and other scientific data that true scientists use in high level serious calculations.
I happen to be near by as these discussions were going on; they spotted me, and decided to use me as a sort of a control for their calculations since I appeared to be a common citizen of no consequence. They explained all the factors, figures and such, as well as the whole background story, and asked me for my prediction. Would Rush or Karl hit the pavement first?

I did not have to take out my calculator to figure this one out.

My answer: WHO CARES!
 
 
+4 # giraffee2012 2012-11-10 20:27
BeaDee - haha and too bad these cowards don't evaporate
 
 
0 # dyannne 2012-11-13 00:40
Love your reporting and the end line is superb.
 
 
-26 # Dave_s Not Here 2012-11-10 17:44
"he thinks of his wife entirely as a nagging, financial parasite who's always on his ass about something."

Hey Matt. You know my wife too?
 
 
+28 # 4yourinformation 2012-11-10 17:56
This shows that the GOP is totally losing its shit. They will self disintegrate from here on out. We need this. We need this new political transition moment where the non-white, non-straight, non-religious etc is becoming the undeniable political force of evolutionary change. As we put this stupid shit-for-brains WASP mentality out to pasture, we can focus on the last evil to deal with...Capitali st global militarism running the show.
 
 
+9 # soularddave 2012-11-10 23:33
Quoting 4yourinformation:
They will self disintegrate from here on out.


I don't think so. Rush and his fellow soliloquizers will continue to act as role models to the millions of vitriolic assholes who wish to retain their edge in conversations with those they don't agree with. It's their fantasy land, where they're powerful and in control of what they don't (or refuse to) understand.

They remind me of someone screaming at the driver of a bus that's gone on without them because they were late.
 
 
+1 # Merschrod 2012-11-11 06:45
They got 48% - it was not a landslide agaionst them - it was a milagro!
 
 
+13 # JH Gordon 2012-11-10 18:03
The GOP is not in the business of governing. They're are in the business of electing Republicans so business can control government and therefore us. The Democrats seem to bark for the same masters. The Justice Party is becoming more of a movement. It's a movement that says Americans aren't polarized or divided. We want democracy that can't be bought out. We want peace. We want office holders who are public servants and support and defend their job description; the Constitution. Conservative or liberal, we all want a system that isn't "broken". Politician say our government is broken. They can't seem to fix it. We all can agree on the Constitution, so all we need is a party who will follow it. The Justice Party is more than a party, it's a movement. In it, you'll find conservatives and liberals who agree. Amazing, isn't it?
 
 
+5 # indian weaver 2012-11-11 07:19
I agree with JH Gordon. As the republicans implode and accelerate their collapse with Limbaugh et. al., support for The Justice Party and Rocky Anderson can only grow, and other acceptable players and parties. Folks just have to read about the good options out there to become aware of them, waiting to fill the hole left by the dying not-yet-dead republican party.
 
 
+33 # stonecutter 2012-11-10 18:06
David Frum, of all people, recently appeared on MSNBC hawking his new online book "Why Romney Lost" and focused on a reality many of us out here simply fail to fully grasp, or just don't want to accept. People like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O-Reilly, Cavuto, Ingraham, a few dozen other far-right radio jocks and jockettes in the mold of Rush, are all very successful components of what Frum calls "The Far-Right Entertainment Complex". It's his well-founded belief that this complex of TV and radio hacks lied repeatedly and egregiously to the wider conservative base out here about the real viability of Romney/Ryan, the broad appeal of their platform, their popularity relative to Obama and the putative tightness of the race.

These incredibly outrageous, obnoxious reactionary voices are making millions of dollars by continuing to drum their simple-minded, pernicious propaganda into the barely conscious, "low information" brains of their enthralled listeners, most of them already brainwashed with this crap to the point of fanatical religious conversion. It's business, galactically lucrative business! Between the hundreds of millions spent by both sides on ads, and the additional millions spent by other sponsors during every broadcast hour audiences lap up this crud, Roger Ailes and his crew, Limbaugh, Beck et al. are raking in the riches. The hard truth of their profound tone-deafness, racism and social atavism is merely filler for so many car commercials. Ah, capitalism!
 
 
0 # dyannne 2012-11-13 00:44
I heard David Frum today on NPR talking about this and it was the first time I've ever believed he was telling the truth and seeing what's really happening.
 
 
+19 # fredboy 2012-11-10 18:09
Tragic that Jabba the Rush is still on the radar. Let's hope the collapse of the hate-fueled GOP will be just the suppository needed to shrink and eradicate this whelp.
 
 
-23 # Big Jake 2012-11-10 18:25
I have wondered for a long time if Rush really believes that crap that he spews or it is all just an act paid for by the elited. The bad actors are not going to let this little beating pushing them into changing their agenda. They have been successful for decades in furthering their agenda and if you listen you will discover just how nuts we have become. A divided nation is far easier to control. We have that in spades. The economy could be their fatal flaw. As we continue to sink, we could go so far that the elites cannot rescue it and then the unknown can happen. Too band that Obama and Co. have no clue as to what to do and keep on doing the same stuff backed up by Krugman and Reich and more Keynsian stuff. It slows down and masks the effects of the downward spiral and as long as I am OK and my neighbor is being thrown out of the game of musical chairs, it is allright. God help us if we fail to grasp this and act.
 
 
+14 # Billy Bob 2012-11-10 18:58
By the way, it's NOT just their attitude. IT IS their policies.

Yes, even blacks, Latinos, women and (occassionally) young people DO PAY ATTENTION and can't be won over with words alone - even if they're well acted.

It's not the attitude. It's the philosophy.
 
 
+8 # Dion Giles 2012-11-10 20:36
Absolutely. Attitudes are gut-feel, policies are brain-think. The two need always to be united, with brain-think leading, to govern the philosophy and the innate sense of right and wrong.
 
 
+16 # karlarove 2012-11-10 18:59
Amen Matt! And as Bill O'Reilly said in the rumble with Jon Stewart, there is lots of money in hating, and Rush does an excellent job at hating.
 
 
+9 # Big Jake 2012-11-10 19:04
It is quite humorous that Rush and the boys think that the new spinfethchits-- -Cain, Rubio, West and several others are Just Fine---as long as the mouth the words that get them into the club---a reminder here--they will never be in the club unles to put on white gloves and serve the boys another drink. A leopard just does not change its spots.
 
 
+3 # Cassandra2012 2012-11-11 14:37
And the comatose, unethical Clarence Thomas is nothing to be proud of!
 
 
+14 # MainStreetMentor 2012-11-10 19:05
This article is an example of why Matt Taibbi is an established, welcomed traveler along the Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite super-highway of Journalistic Accomplishments ... and there's much, much more he's yet to deliver (thank goodness!).
 
 
+23 # Dylan31 2012-11-10 19:11
Hats off once to Matt once again! Best political writer out there. Don't let Rush fool you, he is a money making machine and that is his only motivation. He was the happiest opiate sorter on the planet when Obama won. His listeners come to him for a daily dose of hate and if
Romney was president he would have had to assume the role as the Chief Apologist. Hate sells best for El Rushbo. Taibbi absolutely hits the bulls eye here. People are just repulsed more with every passing day by the racist hate talk, blatant lies and ironic Anti-American vitriol that defines Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the whole Fox business plan.
 
 
+14 # ABen 2012-11-10 19:20
Note to all Liberals/Progre ssives: pop some pop corn and sit back and watch the party warfare that is about to erupt within the GOP. The rational Repubs (yes, there are still some out there) know that the party must return to the 21st Century or become a party of angry, white, poorly educated southerners.
 
 
+9 # elmont 2012-11-10 19:24
As usual, Matt, you da man!!
 
 
+18 # Realist1948 2012-11-10 19:34
I usually agree with Matt, but I have a different take on Limbaugh. I think that secretly Rush is delighted that Obama won re-election, because now Rush has something to rant about for another 4 years. I recall that few people had heard of Limbaugh before Bill Clinton won in 1992. Suddenly there were millions of SORE LOSERS to whom Rush could spew his venomous attacks on and lies about liberals, minorities, women, and others who were suspected of supporting Clinton. Now, in the waning months of 2012, Limbaugh has a new lease on the land of the sore losers. His ratings (and his income) will likely rise as he again panders to the Tea Party crowd and the other losers of the latest election.
 
 
+12 # Dion Giles 2012-11-10 20:44
"millions of SORE LOSERS to whom Rush could spew his venomous attacks on and lies about liberals, minorities, women, and others who were suspected of supporting Clinton."

Can't help thinking about Hitler's crew, whining about the criminal aggression of 1914-18 collapsing in defeat.
 
 
+3 # Merschrod 2012-11-11 06:49
Real, you hit the nail on the head - Among the 48% who voted for Mitt there will be a solid majority of sore losers to pander too. If we could just figure out how large the sore loser population is. Then we could convince the plain old losers that there is something for them in being left of center. We have to find "stuff" for them :>)
 
 
+4 # herman_the_german 2012-11-11 10:54
After the Republican fiasco of 2012 do you think Rush or FOX followers will stick with them? Are they angry they where lied
to and fooled by them?

I'm sure some will stay, but a few have to be disgusted enough by the whole thing to seek other sources of information or entertainment.

What will happen to the Conservative audience?
 
 
+11 # brenda 2012-11-10 20:34
Rush Limberger is a parasite who panders to idiots who can't think for themselves. The Republican leaders know this. They want the idiots to vote Republican. He has no morals or ethics. All he want's is the money his sponsors pay him, so that they can air their commercials to his uniquely stupid listeners. I wouldn't be surprised if he even takes support money from the Republican Party and their party bosses.
 
 
+7 # Okieangels 2012-11-10 21:49
Given the fact that Akin and Mourdoch were dumb enough to air their 18th century opinions on abortion to general public, you have to wonder if Limbaugh himself isn't THE party boss.
 
 
0 # nickalagna 2012-11-10 20:38
I like article sort of, what if you ,tiabbi,like so many in the country continue to take these republicans and their pundits at face value,
rush's analysis about what women want, the youth want, spanish speaking folks want all plays into the republican constituencies beliefs about these groups, as well as the santa claus metaphor giving stuff out like food stamps, cars and sell phones that made it into part of our collective consciousness during this interminably long election theatre
granted it did not seem to be a winning strategy this time, but you noted the election was close, and regardless of the breathless commentary by the press obama was favored to win all along, not even including that guy silver's utter geniusness,
there will be a coming austerity in this country and the democrats will offer up a limp candidate that will lack any colour or reason to get up and vote and all the while the rushs will continue to talk about santa claus , funny the republicans will be the ones warring on christmas,
of course the dems could wake up and maybe get liz warren in 16 that would def. change the future up, we'll see,
the dems continue to play for draw and there is no reason to conclude that will change , as this last campaign demonstrated yet again, karls inability to concede may seem like a buble but he's fighing a war and this election was but a battle
the supreme court did not strike down healthcare bill ,
 
 
+3 # kalpal 2012-11-11 05:33
Don't know if you simply a poor typist or just an ignorant person but most assuredly you are one and possibly both.

Is there ever a time in which tax funds ought to be used to aid the citizens of a nation? Not according to the guys who pay the lowest taxes as percentage of income, AKA rich bastards.

Those who do not pay income tax at all are generally poor. They do pay taxes of various sorts but that is just not enough. If they are not visibly starving they are simply moochers?

I suspect that you are simply ignorant and am comfortable with your ignorance as being adequate to your role as a citizen.
 
 
+9 # ganymede 2012-11-10 21:43
Fortunately, the country is moving leftwards and eventually we will be a true social democracy just like Scandinavia and much of Europe, but even better. In the real and imperfect world, a mixture of capitalism and socialism is the only system that will ever work. The angry nihilistic, misbegotten people who follow Rush will eventually die out, not to be replaced.
 
 
-8 # tadn54 2012-11-10 21:45
If they refuse to budge on these issues important to minorities and women, they will NEVER win the presidency, and slowly lose congress as well.

Now, I'm gonna relax with a joint, send in my letter of non-paymenT for these college loans, have my girlfriend take another church-issued contraceptive pill, and eat my pizza that
I bought with my unemployment cash.......than ks
gop!!!
 
 
+14 # freeheeler99 2012-11-10 22:07
Personally I am frustrated there is so much attention in the progressive media on what the Republican party needs to do attract minority voters. IMHO I am happy to let them self-destruct. As an activist hero of mine says, "Don't do your opponent's work for them." I'd like to see a lot more attention paid to what the Dems need to do to renew their fragile alliance with environmentalis ts, peace activists, and financial reform activists, and cement the alliance they have now built with minority communities.
 
 
+7 # PABLO DIABLO 2012-11-10 22:43
First step Rush, drop the self righteous attitude. Second, put down the Oxycontin and join the human race.
 
 
+7 # kalpal 2012-11-11 05:27
You can't explain to right wingers that their ideology should cease trying to trump reality. Reality is abhorent to them. They choose to see a return to a mythical past that never existed as the only path to a future for this nation as they imagine existed at some point and should come back. This is akin to the guys who insist that slaves were happy being slaves and did not mind the occasional rape, abuse and sundering apart of children from their mothers and fathers.
 
 
+10 # joejamchicago 2012-11-11 06:27
It is oxymoronic to use the words "Republican" and "fiscal responsibility" in the same sentence. Reagan and Bush Jr. spent like drunk sailors. Yes, the Republicans tell the big "We are the fiscally responsible party" lie over and over and over. Mr. Taibbi should know better. The Republican record is one of deficits, foreign adventurism, jingoism, xenophobia, homophobia, and sexism: what's not to like?
 
 
+6 # sophijo 2012-11-11 09:46
It's the attitude for sure, but it's the politics too, and the politics we see; family values, fiscal responsibilty etc are not the real adgenda! It's privatization, deregulation and decimating public health and education. Minorities could take some comfort in that. Republicans are truly "equal opportunity crooks".
 
 
+6 # bluevistas 2012-11-11 10:42
both their attitudes and policies are destructive to human beings and society in general. Let them self-destruct!
 
 
+4 # panhead49 2012-11-11 11:15
Tom Delveccio head of the R party in CA was talking with Phil Mateer (Bay Area reporter) this a.m. - said the R's are down to 30% of the electorate in CA. Gonna try to win back the Latino vote. Suspect that doesn't happen over night as the R's have been hounding them since Pete Wilson. And as Phil pointed out - all our R's signed the Norquist pledge. Anyone signing that should be tried for treason for putting country before, heck I don't even know what to call Norquist in polite company!

I would never expect a R dominated government to reach across the aisle, but hope the D's do attempt (and hope they pull back more than a bloody nub). We're running out of time for any more happy horse$#@^ in CA.
 
 
+5 # Bill Clements 2012-11-11 12:31
Another excellent piece from Taibbi. I absolutely love how he took Limbaugh's comments and deconstructed them. If Republicans had a clue, they'd be reading people like Taibbi and Rich because there's an open window to clarity being presented, an inkling of what needs to be done to overhaul this broken down, disfunctional party.
 
 
+4 # AUCHMANNOCH 2012-11-11 18:34
I love Matt's command of the English language - stick it up them Matt! I have a small worry - maybe there is a slight possibility that you might spark up and convince some important dim - bulbs in the Republican party that what you say is reality and they may change their behaviour? On second thoughts - naaaaagh.
 
 
+3 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-11 20:24
Matt, this was laugh out loud great!
 
 
+4 # video4315 2012-11-12 08:38
"The Republicans have been doing a lot of soul-searching since the election. So far, ...nothing."
Rob Feldman
Host of NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me
 
 
+3 # Sensible1 2012-11-12 10:01
Why do people listen to Limbaugh? Limbaugh is a selfish, convicted felon, overindulgent, and subhuman pig who hates women (no doubt rejected more than once), environmentalis ts, outspoken liberals (especially if female), minorities (of all races, but mainly African American), Democrats (Progressives), good looking men (not bald), Christians (who are not Republican), animals (especially small ones), the Clintons, and the list continues.....
 
 
+1 # Realist1948 2012-11-12 20:19
IMHO, the sore losers, racists, bigots, and Tea Party folks listen to Rush because he tells them what they want to hear. I listened to him for a few weeks in 1993 or 4. Once I realized what his game was, I stopped listening. I can't see wasting my time on Rush, given that his opinions are such total BS.
 

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