RSN June Fundraising
FB Share
Email This Page
add comment
Print

Excerpt: "So far, the American media have not adequately refuted Romney’s lies. They seem to believe that dissembling is permissible, or that pointing out this extraordinary lying machine is itself an act of partisanship."

Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)
Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)


Romney's Latest Lie and Why We Must Not Put Liars in the White House

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog

31 October 12

 

ver the weekend, Romney debuted an ad in Ohio showing cars being crushed as a narrator says Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job."

In fact, Chrysler is retaining and expanding its Jeep production in North America, including in Ohio. Its profits have enabled it to separately consider expanding into China, the world's largest auto market.

Responding to the ad, Chrysler emphasized in a blog post that it has "no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China."

"They are inviting a false inference," says Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania and an expert on political advertising.

This is only the most recent in a stream of lies from Romney. Remember his contention that the President planned to "rob" Medicare of $716 billion when in fact the money would come from reduced payments to providers who were overcharging - thereby extending the life of Medicare? (Ryan's plan includes the same $716 billion of savings but gets it from turning Medicare into a voucher and shifting rising health-care costs on to seniors.)

Remember Romney's claim that Obama removed the work requirement from the welfare law, when in fact Obama merely allowed governors to fashion harder or broader work requirements?

Recall Romney's assertion that he is not planning to give the rich a tax cut of almost $5 trillion, when in fact that's exactly what his budget plan does? Or that his budget will reduce the long-term budget deficit, when in fact his numbers don't add up?

And so on. "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," says Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster. It is not even being dictated by facts.

There are two lessons here. First, lies financed by deep pockets are hard to refute, but they must be refuted. Otherwise, there is no accountability in our democracy. So far, the American media have not adequately refuted Romney's lies. They seem to believe that dissembling is permissible, or that pointing out this extraordinary lying machine is itself an act of partisanship.

Second, anyone who tells or countenances such lies cannot be trusted to hold the highest office in our land, because he has no compunctions about feeding false information to the public. In recent memory we've had a president who told us there were "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, when in fact there were none. We dare not risk another George W. Bush.


 

Comments   

We are concerned about a recent drift towards vitriol in the RSN Reader comments section. There is a fine line between moderation and censorship. No one likes a harsh or confrontational forum atmosphere. At the same time everyone wants to be able to express themselves freely. We'll start by encouraging good judgment. If that doesn't work we'll have to ramp up the moderation.

General guidelines: Avoid personal attacks on other forum members; Avoid remarks that are ethnically derogatory; Do not advocate violence, or any illegal activity.

Remember that making the world better begins with responsible action.

- The RSN Team

 
+221 # LeeBlack 2012-10-31 06:55
It's an indictment of the Republican Party - they feel they can only win by lying, pouring money into ads which are lies and suppressing the vote of those 'not like' them.
 
 
-243 # edge 2012-10-31 08:59
Hmmm...lies can you say BENGHAZI!
Obama has lied and the media defends him in his lies!

Our Safety is the Governments most important actions.
If this were a Republican the news media would be non stop...
BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI...
 
 
+186 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2012-10-31 09:58
When we suffered the greatest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor on 9/11 no one was fired and the Bush Admin and the Republicans fought against ANY investigation. This year, a consulate was attacked, as ANY consulate could be at any time, and now the party that stripped $300,000,000 from embassy security is bickering about whether the words used in the rose garden were "act of terror" or "terrorist attack." THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is how the Republicans' chronic false equivalency continuously drags the American political debate into the gutter of mundane minutia for political purposes. In addition to 9/11, American embassies and consulates were attacked 12 TIMES during the Bush Administration — with no peep from the Republicans about it.

You say, "If this were a Republican [president...[" Really" We;; Romney is a Republican presidential candidate, and the news media are NOT hammering him on his proven record of prevarication, his bald-face lies and his perpetual flip-flopping.
 
 
-163 # edge 2012-10-31 09:58
Let me think:

Obama says he will take Public financing

LIE

Obama will post all bills on the Internet for 5 days before signing.

LIE

Actually his VERY FIRST BILL he signed into law broke that promise!
 
 
+86 # BradFromSalem 2012-10-31 11:56
edge,

And that should convince an undecided voter to vote for Mitt Romney because his lies, that you don't deny, are only about jobs? Obama's "lies" were more of a change of mind due to external circumstances. He dropped the promise for public financing in order to compete with PACs funding McCain. The 5 day promise proved to be unworkable. The change was published by the White House. Changing one's mind on an issue is not in any way, shape or form the same as a bald faced lie.
 
 
-43 # jtatu 2012-10-31 17:09
Obama promised a lot of stuff that he couldn't do.
 
 
+61 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:27
Quoting jtatu:
Obama promised a lot of stuff that he couldn't do.



If you check he did a large majority of the things he promised and the rest fell to a record number of filibusters by people who don't give a daamn about the country, only power and greed.
 
 
-25 # jtatu 2012-11-02 06:54
How about cutting the deficit in half and reducing unemployment to under 5% in his first term? Do you think he was lying or just didn't know what he was talking about.
 
 
+6 # Lgfoot 2012-11-03 19:24
What is there about obstruction and filibusters that you don't understand? Or can you not believe that elected officials would engage in such obvious treason?
 
 
+42 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 20:56
"Couldn't" is whole hell of a lot better than "wouldn't".

Twit WOULDN'T tell the truth if his children's life depended on it.
 
 
+26 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-01 07:12
BB,

I have never assumed ANY politician would or could keep any of the promises made during a campaign. All it takes to understand why is a general understanding of how legislation is created and passed. Even the 4th grade sanitized version is sufficient know that the very design of American politic structure makes any campaign promise a moot point.

That means I decide based on the vision the candidate expresses. In Romney's case, he either has decided to not reveal his vision, or he has none. That characterizatio n is indisputable. Now in Obama's case his vision has certainly been better than his results. Case closed.
 
 
+15 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 16:16
I agree with everything you said.
 
 
-1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:34
And you don't Great joke.
 
 
+10 # Sensible1 2012-10-31 14:44
That's it! OMG!
 
 
+58 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 15:28
Romney is continuing to air an add in Ohio that everyone acknowledges is A LIE.

Romney now says he's for government regulation:

LIE

Romney said he's now, suddenly, a big fan of FEMA

LIE

Romney said his campaign efforts during the hurricane were a "relief effort"

LIE

Romney says he can cut taxes, raise defens spending, not cut any programs, and balance the budget.

LIE

Romney said he was a moderate, then he said he was a conservative, then he said he was a moderate, then conservative, then moderate, then conservative.

ONE OF THOSE IS A LIE
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:37
Relief effort...while he dined and slept in luxury. Nice for him and Ryan.
 
 
+24 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:07
Hey if you're lucky king mitt and queen anne will allow you to kneel before them and kiss the hems of their garments. If you think they care about you, you are very naive.
 
 
-2 # Ma Tsu 2012-11-01 15:28
If we were really opposed to putting liars in the White House, we wouldn't have rebuilt it after the British burned it down in 1814.
Not a single occupant of that house, not Honest Abe, not Silent Cal, not any of 'em have refrained from lying to get there or to stay there.
It's simply the nature of their chosen profession.
Therefore, we of the National Optimists Party say, "Don't change politicians, change politics." In other words, don't change the personalities, change the principles. Get somebody who's got some and who doesn't really want the job of the presidency. Anybody who runs after that office, especially at a time like this, is unqualified to hold it, ipso damn facto.
 
 
0 # Mannstein 2012-11-03 15:50
The only President that didn't lie was Carter. He promised to tell us the truth and kept his promise.
 
 
+93 # humanmancalvin 2012-10-31 10:33
edge: you argue like a child, repeating yourself over & over again. This is typical of the low information right wing voter who is voting against their own better interests. Benghazi is a non-issue my friend, it has no traction because there is nothing there to pin on our president. Please seek another avenue of ridiculous slander.
 
 
-89 # edge 2012-10-31 11:39
Quoting humanmancalvin:
edge: you argue like a child, repeating yourself over & over again. This is typical of the low information right wing voter who is voting against their own better interests. Benghazi is a non-issue my friend, it has no traction because there is nothing there to pin on our president. Please seek another avenue of ridiculous slander.


Naive to say the least!

Only because Obama won't cooperate might the information come out before the election...but the LIES will come out my simple minded naive frind!
 
 
+28 # Sensible1 2012-10-31 14:47
Sweeeet! I typical Romney/Bush brain child.
 
 
+11 # dovelane1 2012-11-01 08:28
I think it would be closer to a typical Romney/Bush/Rya n/Rove "brainless" child.

Or, if he has a brain, he is not using it very well. (I assume it's a "he," aggressive as he/she/it tends to be. But, that's another debate, isn't it.)

It's called "selective perception." Or, as Paul Simon put it in "The Boxer," a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

Just wondered if he stayed home on 9/11. Can't be too careful, you know.
 
 
-10 # edge 2012-11-02 11:13
Quoting dovelane1:
I think it would be closer to a typical Romney/Bush/Ryan/Rove "brainless" child.

Or, if he has a brain, he is not using it very well. (I assume it's a "he," aggressive as he/she/it tends to be. But, that's another debate, isn't it.)

It's called "selective perception." Or, as Paul Simon put it in "The Boxer," a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

Just wondered if he stayed home on 9/11. Can't be too careful, you know.


Brainless reply and your facts are what?
 
 
-8 # edge 2012-11-02 11:12
Quoting Sensible1:
Sweeeet! I typical Romney/Bush brain child.


Brainless reply and your facts are what?
 
 
+10 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 05:01
You're actually proving humanmancalvin' s point. Thank you.
 
 
+17 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:09
typical right winger, trying to make anything stick. why don't you discuss issues for a change? romney's calculated lying machine is an issue. they have openly told you they are going to lie to you and you don't seem to care.
 
 
+22 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-11-01 09:27
Dull edge: Let's pretend for a moment that there is something embarrassing that they are hiding, compare this tragedy to the epic tragedy that was George Worst Bush. Like someone else said here earlier, Bush had fifty or more warnings prior to 9-11 that terrorists were planning to attack us here by hijacking commercial jets. Bush did not do anything to try to prevent hijackings including not even telling the Air National Guard or Air Force that there was a high threat! Then after the attack, in which not just four Americans died but 2994, Bush and Rice and the rest initially LIED that they had no
warning, then later changed to the vacuous excuse that they didn't know which flights were going to be hijacked! Can you comprehend that? Then Bush blamed the CIA, stonewalled the Democratic controlled Senate investigation, and resisted creating the Kean/Hamilton 9-11 Commission till families of the victims shamed him into it! Bush's little buddy Rove saw that it would hurt his reelection chances in 2004 and the midterms in 2002 so Bush caved in but told them to focus on how to prevent a similar attack in the future instead of looking into what he knew and when he knew it! Then in a predictable move Bush used the result of his criminal negligence to "justify" their long sought invasion of Iraq even though they knew he had nothing to do with 9-11 and had no WMD, and you hypocrites then reelected someone who should be in prison!
 
 
-17 # edge 2012-11-02 11:25
Finally someone with a brain gives a rational reply, thank you for that Michael.

I could respond to things that happened 11 years ago but WHY?

Bush is not running, Obama IS!
Bush has been gone for 4 years and to continue to blame him is more than childish! Obama knew what he was coming into but fails to take ANY blame for anything!
He is NOT a leader, he does not even pretend to be!
He came into office with a mandate, and said time after time " ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES"
He did not ask for or even want the help of the GOP members of Congress, and he got none.
BUT after he lost in the 2010 elections he was a cry baby and only blamed the GOP and BUSH!
That is NOT a leader!
Truman had a plague on his desk that said "The Buck Stops Here"

Obama thew it away and ONLY blames others for his failures.
Hillary took the blame for Benghazi but Obama never has used those words...IMO the wrong Democrat was elected and to that there is very little doubt!
 
 
+5 # dovelane1 2012-11-03 10:56
And Romney isn't blaming Obama for anything that's happened?

And Romney isn't telling just the part of the truth that makes him look better, and Obama look worse?

And even if Obama had asked for the Repubs help, according to Mitch (senate minority leader), they would never have given him any help at anytime. At lkeast Truman had a congress that tried to work together.

As I said earlier, you selectively percfeive what you want to propoose as legitimate arguments. I keep wondering what your game is. Most of your posts are so easily refuted, it almost seems as if you just want to provoke animosity.
 
 
+5 # Traveler625 2012-11-03 16:06
Edge: Just exactly how do you know, what Obama knew? Perhaps if you knew, you might have mentioned it to him. So maybe we can all blame you for knowing something the rest of us did not know.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:41
Bush knew it was happening...no, Cheney knew it was happening cause he and papa saw to it.
 
 
-1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:39
Then maybe the Nit Taxes will come out also, More justly I hope the charges against him are held...then he and Annie will be felons. Amen
 
 
+7 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 05:01
and over, and over.
 
 
+73 # Billsy 2012-10-31 11:08
Republicans failed to support increased security for the State Dept. my friend. The media HAS brought up this attack on our diplomatic consulate again and again as have people like you trying so desperately to politicize it. Take your pro GOP spin somewhere else please. This sight is devoted to alternative press observations and points of view from investigative journalists, economists, environmentalis ts, etc, not the spin of political hacks.
 
 
-77 # edge 2012-10-31 11:42
Quoting Billsy:
Republicans failed to support increased security for the State Dept. my friend. The media HAS brought up this attack on our diplomatic consulate again and again as have people like you trying so desperately to politicize it. Take your pro GOP spin somewhere else please. This sight is devoted to alternative press observations and points of view from investigative journalists, economists, environmentalists, etc, not the spin of political hacks.


So if you do not have enough security what do you do....hey how about staying home of friggin 9/11 !!

Why wasn't Obama in the these Countries with no security on 9/11 !!!

Your argument holds no water!
 
 
+52 # Doll 2012-10-31 14:13
edge.

You have gone off the deep end. You make no sense whatsoever. This is a forum for thoughtful debate.

Start thinking instead of parroting rightwing bull.

We do not belive you. We will never believe you.
 
 
-30 # edge 2012-10-31 22:10
Quoting Doll:
edge.

You have gone off the deep end. You make no sense whatsoever. This is a forum for thoughtful debate.

Start thinking instead of parroting rightwing bull.

We do not belive you. We will never believe you.


I asked a legit question, why not give an answer instead of just giving the answer of a 5 year old?
 
 
+21 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 05:05
It's just that your question makes no sense. We ask you questions all the time and your only response seems to be attitude without actually saying anything.

And by the way, repeating yourself ad nauseum about something that doesn't hold water and has no substance (especially repeating one word 9 times) is a good example of 5 year old behavior.
 
 
+12 # David Starr 2012-11-01 09:57
@Billy Bob: The pattern is so incredibly obvious. Finger-pointing without facts. The right, at least the base, argues that way, as you well know. I've also seen it on a right-wing website, where articles can sound as ultra-accusator y as readers' posts.

At least Robt Eagle gave a source. But you apparently refuted it.
 
 
+1 # postpen 2012-11-05 05:05
I have the strong suspicion that if he doesn't have a certifiable paranoid personality disorder(see DSM), this character is actually about 14 or 15 years old. Writes like that. Sorry, character defamation is against my principles,but there's nothing wrong with being an early teen age-wise. And I wish he'd stop filling up my reading time on this site. Many great comments otherwise.
 
 
+11 # bigkahuna671 2012-11-01 20:38
Do they call you Edge because you've gone over it? I realize that the GOP attracts a lot of know-nothings who can't see the forest for the trees but to repeatedly beat the poor dead horse shows a certain lack of intellectual probity. Do you have any idea what you're talking about or do you just mouth Rushisms, Coulterisms, and Hannityisms? Get a brain and actually start to investigate things and you might actually make some sense. Until then, crawl back in your hole and plot the overthrow of that mean black dude in the White House.
 
 
+34 # Sensible1 2012-10-31 14:50
Whew, never vote Republican, or you will get....this.
 
 
+13 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:12
heaven forbid we ever start thinking like this guy. he will vote against his own interests. he will hate the black guy who is president. he listens to the fantasies of limbaush and fox news and that is his world.
 
 
+14 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:11
your post actually makes no sense whatsoever. too much limbaugh
 
 
+6 # randrjwr 2012-11-01 08:02
Quoting edge:
Quoting Billsy:
Republicans failed to support increased security for the State Dept. my friend. The media HAS brought up this attack on our diplomatic consulate again and again as have people like you trying so desperately to politicize it. Take your pro GOP spin somewhere else please. This sight is devoted to alternative press observations and points of view from investigative journalists, economists, environmentalists, etc, not the spin of political hacks.


So if you do not have enough security what do you do....hey how about staying home of friggin 9/11 !!

Why wasn't Obama in the these Countries with no security on 9/11 !!!

Your argument holds no water!


Could you repeat these questions in English? As written they make no sense.
 
 
+55 # fixerguy 2012-10-31 12:00
It was the REPUBLICAN House, in March of this year which REDUCED the amount of $$ available to The State Department for Defense of our embassies in the US Budget (source Congressional Budget Office and VoteSmart.org) Put the Blame where it BELONGS! Then ask the question: With the Republican Partys STATED purpose of "insuring that Obama is a one-term President" What is the possibility of the Republican House doing this for the sole purpose of being able to make this kind of charge later?
 
 
+68 # unitedwestand 2012-10-31 12:02
Edge, just thought I would repeat what Reductio Ad Asurdum said in case you missed it, I know you can capitalize Benghazi so here is one for you:
"IN ADDITION TO 9/11, AMERICAN EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WERE ATTACKED 12 TIMES DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.."

When there is a local crime, the first thing the police say is: We can't comment until all the facts are known. You expected the President from thousands of miles away, and while people were dying, and events were unfolding to say exactly what was going on. That is what you got when Mitt, even before the President made a statement did. AND HE WAS WRONG and very UN-Presidential .

The whole Republican party and its zombified, FOX Bots have lost their capacity to reason and for logic.
 
 
+15 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:14
the number of embassey attacks is way down under Obama but why bother to confuse him with facts. That, in spite of the repubs cutting security money. real facts would just confuse that guy
 
 
+21 # Sensible1 2012-10-31 14:43
All of them except FOX, I suspect, Hmmmmm, Obama has lied, and the media defends his lies? Please be specific,. and don't hold anything back, unless of course, you are mimicking something you heard from the place where you get all of your information, the GOP's voice of non news, widely known as faux news, and sometimes known as the news of the right wing extremist party. I think I can hear the laughter. Romney will love you for it.
 
 
+10 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:05
and your facts are what? rush limbaugh, fox news? Last I heard the CIA still wasn't sure exactly how it unfolded but hating Obama is what the right wing wants to do.
 
 
+3 # ericlipps 2012-11-03 07:38
Quoting edge:
Hmmm...lies can you say BENGHAZI!
Obama has lied and the media defends him in his lies!

Our Safety is the Governments most important actions.
If this were a Republican the news media would be non stop...
BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI...

Evidently you haven't been paying attention. Benghazi has been in the news every day suince the attack. And where's your proof that President Obama has "lied" rather than simply being fed inaccurate initial infofrmation?
 
 
+22 # ritaague 2012-10-31 09:53
Our whole system, both major political parties included, is full of lies and is broken and then some. We dumbed down sheeple have no good ed. for our young, and, aside from truthtelling internet sites, have nothing but a 'mess media' to MSD (manipulate, spin, distract) vs. truthfully keep up informed.

Ray of hope: My son and I marched in last Saturday's Holloween parade as Pretend Politician Clowns, and laughter and claps and thumbs up abounded. The cheers came from folks of all and no political parties.

Sorry, villainaire rulers, we ain't as dumb and naive as you'd karlroving have us.
 
 
+14 # Barbara K 2012-10-31 17:18
LeeBlack: Right on! I'm so proud that I'm not "like them", aren't all of you too?
 
 
+152 # fredboy 2012-10-31 07:07
We have no news media.
As a former journalist, I am amazed by what passes for news coverage these days.
They all seem afraid of something.
I never took that pill. I simply pursued and exposed the truth. Thought that was my job.
 
 
+29 # Janice 2012-10-31 11:57
That is abssolutely the problem. News people are afraid to look through the lies and expo9se them.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:50
no morals or ethics. They have no spark ...telling the truth, reporting News gave good journalists and Edge and Spark to their reports. Digitalized would be the same as what we view on most stations
 
 
+6 # dovelane1 2012-11-01 08:34
Fredboy - Glad to hear you did what you did. we need more of that. My sense is that, in trying to be "fair" to both sides of an issue, or to both candidates, the nes media has forgotten to be "fair" about the truth.

Also, with revenues down, and expected to get worse for print media, I'm wondering if the lack of enough qualified people to do the job isn't a factor as well.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:51
Forgotten to be fair, they do not even report the News. I heard nothing about the Bain Plant closing or protests.
No report on UAW charges....that should be News.
 
 
-212 # MidwestTom 2012-10-31 07:10
Reich is apparently totally unaware of the stories that came from the White House about the Libya raid. As the facts roll out this appears to be a situation where the Seals ready to deploy were ready to go and were stopped. One of the soldiers killed used his laser to paint a target where mortar fire was coming from, expecting the available asset in the sky to respond with a missile, but orders from somewhere ordered that the missile not be fired. By painting the target the soldier exposed his position, and he was killed. I do not know who was at fault, but it was either the Military, the White House, or the State Department. I consider this far more troublesome than lies told on the campaign trail by either candidate. Remember OBama's pledge for transparency in his administration. Where is it?
 
 
+126 # engelbach 2012-10-31 07:58
You consider the caution of the administration about the cause of the attack on an embassy more important than the destruction of the working class that will intensify if people believe Romney's lies?

That is one screwed-up priority, my friend.
 
 
+78 # bobv5366 2012-10-31 08:30
Strange that you want to point out something other than the facts in this article about Romney. How about admitting the truth about what Romney is doing first!
It would help keep people on track.
 
 
+9 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:16
You are right. It's a right wing tactic. Obfuscate, blow smoke but never discuss the real issues
 
 
-20 # edge 2012-11-01 10:49
Quoting guyachs:
You are right. It's a right wing tactic. Obfuscate, blow smoke but never discuss the real issues


You got met there, the Ambassador is "only playing dead"!
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 16:18
and you're only pretending that you can't hold up your end of a conversation.
 
 
+59 # MidwestDick 2012-10-31 08:56
Ironic that as a post script to an article about lying in your face politicos, my Midwest counterpart would recite a string of falsehoods into our face.
Check your facts bub. Each and every rumor you cited is a load of BS being spread with the object of making Romney/Ryan our next ruling duo --- precisely what Doctor Reich was talking about, and thanks for underlining his point.
Let us now turn, if only briefly, to reality. In fact, the Obama administration has been a bit over-willing to insert our military into countries not on our enemies list and setting them to shooting up the joint. If they missed this one, it was not for lack of desire but lack of opportunity.
 
 
+31 # Jerry 2012-10-31 09:32
Congratulations on your broad sourcing, but you seem to have bought into the Republicans attack. Try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_the_U.S._diplomatic_mission_in_Benghazi
 
 
+34 # Billsy 2012-10-31 11:21
You bring up a valid point about the administration' s lack of transparency, however, that is nothing compared to the difficulty candidate Romney has with the truth which is the point of this article as we approach election day. Reich is concerned with the possibility of a GOP victory. Benghazi is nothing compared to what we might face if Romney were to become POTUS, turning his sights on provocation of Iran. Perhaps in 20 years, starting at the local level, we can grow a potential alternative like the Green Party to presidential aspirations, but on 11/6/12 it's either Obama/Biden or Romney/Ryan. Which would you prefer? FOCUS!
 
 
+19 # Cassandra2012 2012-10-31 15:00
Yes, Romney does not even seem to know the geographical position of Iran vis-a-vis Syria.. and he seems awfully gung-ho about starting WWIII there! (Ready to send OTHER PEOPLES' KIDS to war, while not ONE of his five sons has done any military service of any kind, and he himself, DODGED THE DRAFT IN VIETNAM [NOT for philosophical reasons since he campaigned FOR the Vietnam war] while he got a [?????legal) deferment for doing 'missionary work' in France [LOL].
 
 
+8 # dovelane1 2012-11-01 08:42
Radio talk show host Gordon Duff has speculated there is more to the draft-dodger story than has been told. (Speaking of lies.)

Apparently the French considered the Mormon religion to be a cult when Romney was in France. Apparently he was not really supported in his "supposed" attempt to convvice the French to change religions.

On top of that, his father, George Romney, was leading Richard Nixon by 10 points for the Repub nomination for president, when he was told that Mitt would be jailed as a draft-dodger if George didn't get out of the race. Which he did.

I haven't been able to confirm this info, but, if true, it could be part of why Romney wants the presidency bad enough to lie about everything.
 
 
+6 # humanmancalvin 2012-11-01 12:29
dovelane1 wrote: "I haven't been able to confirm this info, but, if true, it could be part of why Romney wants the presidency bad enough to lie about everything."
Dove...you may or may not be surprised if you Google: (not a paid advertisement)m ormons and lying. It seems that from the time that Joseph Smith, founder of the "church" had to lie constantly about his polygamous ways, lying is an accepted part of LDS doctrine as long as it benefits the cause & advancement of said church. Now what benefit could possibly be gained having a revered member of the church as POTUS? Hell, Coca-Cola could be banned as well as any film not rated G. A stretch but then again???
 
 
+37 # unitedwestand 2012-10-31 12:05
If you are so concerned about one person dying, why didn't you speak up when Bush started a couple of unnecessary wars that killed thousands of our young people, thousands and thousands of innocent Iraqi, injured for life 300,000 or more of our soldiers. Make up your own facts much?
 
 
+21 # BlueReview 2012-10-31 14:03
Quoting MidwestTom:
Remember OBama's pledge for transparency in his administration. Where is it?


Mitt Romney promised “complete transparency” when he took charge of the Salt Lake City Olympics, but was unwilling to share a budget with the state board responsible for spending oversight. Archivists now say most key records about the Games’ internal workings were destroyed under the supervision of a staffer shortly after the flame was extinguished at Olympic Cauldron Park.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/07/24/after_romney_pledged_transparent_olympics_key_documents_were_destroyed/#

At the end of his governorship, 11 of his staffers purchased the hard drives of their government-issu ed computers. the Romney administration also replaced computers and scrubbed state government servers of all the administration' s emails.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/what-is-mitt-romney-hiding
 
 
+4 # guyachs 2012-11-01 05:15
you must have a great source, you know more than the CIA or are you just listening to fox/limbaugh
 
 
+139 # carneyva 2012-10-31 07:25
I completely agree. Romney's callous disregard for the truth or falsity of what he says makes him unfit for the presidency. He is a proven pathological liar who maintains offshore money, hides his tax returns, and pays a lower tax rate than his maids. He is unsuited to the highest office in the land, and I only hope that the voters see through his web of chicanery and lies.
 
 
+88 # Nell H 2012-10-31 08:01
Midwestom: President Obama told the American people what he knew, when he knew it. President Obama has been very transparent with the American people.

Romney, on the other hand, invoked his Etch-a-sketch. You can find him on every side of every issue. I do not trust him.
 
 
-72 # Smiley 2012-10-31 09:09
Yes Romney is a despicable liar. But it's going to be difficult to convince me that I knew that there was no "out of control demonstration" in Benghazi before president Obama did. There were people posting eyewitness accounts of what happened right away.
 
 
-95 # Robt Eagle 2012-10-31 10:11
Nell, Obama lied. He sent his surrogates out to lie. This Benghazi tragedy is such an immense failure on the part of the White House stemming from a failed Obama policies across the board, and then he lies that he told the assets to go and do what ever was needed to save those in trouble in Benghazi. That is the worst lie of all. And then he blames it on the military for non-action. Get Obama out of the White House at all costs!!!
 
 
+22 # Todd Williams 2012-10-31 14:30
So eagle, did Bush lie about weapons in Iraque? Was he ever held accountable for 9/ll and the bungled reaction to intellegence before the attacks? Give us all a break and study histroy old Eagle.
 
 
-36 # Robt Eagle 2012-10-31 16:50
Todd, Todd, Todd, you listen only to the left wing garbage. Were you aware that the AP reported 150 million metric tons of yellow cake uranium was found in Iraq and slowly moved to Canada for their nuclear energy plants. It was only reported AFTER all the uranium was moved for fear the bad guys would take it if they knew about it. Truth never gets out there to you left leaning uneducated fools. You only listen to what suits your hatred of GW Bush. The entire western world were fed intelligence that was incorrect about WMDs in Iraq, or was it really that the Iraqis had 6 months to move the WMDs to Syria and Iran because of the UN stalling? Read "Intelligence Failure" by David Bossie to get the real scoop on how we got to 9/11/2001. Worse still is Obama's failure to act on 9/11/2012 in Benghazi and his cover up that is blowing up in his face and all the Democrats who continue to support Obama's treason. Truth shall win out!
 
 
+20 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:38
Okay, that's it. Every study ever done shows that liberals are far more intelligent overall than conservatives. Of course there are minor exceptions. And almost every left wig site does fact checking before publishing, while it's almost unheard of on right wing sites. The only way possible to prefer Romney over Obama (and no, he doesn't give me a thrill running up my leg) is to be an utter moron.
 
 
+10 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 20:59
The AP Washington Bureau Chief at that time was later involved directly in the McCain campaign. The AP stopped being non-partisan years ago.

Then again, you haven't even given us a link. Where's your link robt, robt, robt?
 
 
-17 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-01 03:26
Billy, read it and now what say you? http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=50430
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 06:56
Thank you for finally backing something up with a link:

That said, you're kind of missing the entire point of the article. Here's another one explaining it a bit:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/world/middleeast/07iraq.html

You'll notice that it had nothing to do with the yellow cake that bush pretended was going to be sent to Iraq to instigate a war and steal oil.

You'll also notice that it has nothing to do with weapons.

You'll also notice that it was entire uncontroversial that it was there. There was no cover up.

It's just that you're trying to turn it into something it isn't and it never was.

Nice try though.
 
 
+7 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 07:19
Robt, One more thing:

check out this link: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

Here's a snippet from it:

“The yellowcake removed from Iraq in 2008 was material that had long since been identified, documented and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of the UN. inspectors. It was NOT a “secret” cache that was recently “discovered” by the U.S., and the yellowcake had not been purchased by Iraq in the years immediately preceding the 2003 invasion. The uranium was the remnants of a decades old nuclear reactor projects that had been put out of commission many years ealier: One reactor at Al Tuwaitha was bombed by Israel in 1981, and another was bombed and disabled during Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Moreover, the fact that the yellowcake had been in Iraq since before the 1991 Gul war was plainly stated in the Associated Press article cited in the example above:

‘Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY YELLOWCAKE DATING FROM AFTER 1991, the official said’ ”

THAT'S WHAT SAY I.

read it.

WHAT SAY YOU?
 
 
+12 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 07:28
Sorry, but I have another thing to add as well.

Why couldn't YOU look that stuff up and actually do your research? Why do WE have to do it for you right-wingers? It just wastes a lot my people's time - this time, MINE.

YOU made the accusation. The least you could do is verify that it has some substance FIRST before repeating it. Just because rush limblow tells you something doesn't mean it's true. You have to check and double-check your claims - especially when they have wild implications.

The trouble is that you right-wingers are too lazy to do the work of actually looking stuff up. It's for this reason that you're so easily manipulated by people like rush and romney. All they have to do is make an unsubstantiated claim and they know you won't bother to check it or call them out on it.

You do all the leg work for them, of repeating the claim for them so much that other low-information voters will believe it (since they "heard it somewhere"). By then, the damage is done. No amount of actual FACTS can dissuade you.

Facts are nothing but liberal obstacles that get in the way of your agenda.

As you'd say, "what say you"?
 
 
+1 # postpen 2012-11-05 05:16
Check out paranoid personality disorder. Great rebuttals, however; thanks for giving us some documentation.
 
 
+6 # Todd Williams 2012-11-01 04:17
Old Eagle, you know that's all bullshit! I guess you think if you tell a lie enough times, it'll become the truth. Amazing!
 
 
0 # Cassandra2012 2012-11-05 11:47
Quoting Todd Williams:
Old Eagle, you know that's all bullshit! I guess you think if you tell a lie enough times, it'll become the truth. Amazing!


Yes, Eagle must be direct descendant of that old turkey, Goebbels of the 'big lie' ....
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 05:06
robt? robt? robt?

Still waiting for your non-partisan, provable link...

robt? robt? robt?
 
 
+8 # erogers 2012-11-01 05:42
Robert, Robert, Robert, you listen to nothing but the right wing garbage. Truth was lost when the little idiot from Crawford took office. Do not know where you get your garbage from but garbage in garbage out. You are the perfect example of that fact.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:59
I hope so I want to see the Romney life unfold in front of us, we will see just the transparencies or do we see the whole truth and nothing but the truth
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 17:57
I believe we already admitted it was a horrendous failure. What the .... do you want.
It is too bad the slimes have found their way out from under the rocks
 
 
+104 # Cabell 2012-10-31 07:26
I watched CUBAN MISSLIE CRISIS-Three men. With interest. When JFK was establishing America's basis for action, Adlai Stevenson took the evidence to the WORLD... Photos presented at the United Nations. Not back room unfounded implications, weasely Lies. Romney is totally lacking a moral compass. America cannot afford his uninformed, gutless, opportunism.
 
 
-107 # MidwestTom 2012-10-31 08:21
Do some research on the Libya raid, it is loaded with 'back room coverup' while American lives were lost. I am sure that they are doing everything possible to keep this from becoming a major news story.
 
 
+32 # DPM 2012-10-31 09:23
MT. How about we "give" you Libya? Would you be happy, then? All you need to do, in return, is admit that the Romney campaign has lied, lied and lied! It's really easy. All you need do is look at actual facts. Such as the ones described above. Call Chrysler if you'd like. Check the $716 billion accusation. Check the "welfare" thing. We'll wait.
Quit being so childish. This is serious stuff.
I'm voting independent. Not Obama. But I have actual REAL reasons, not the crap being spewed out on the airwaves.
 
 
+26 # jlg 2012-10-31 12:05
Good argument, DPM. I'm registered as an Independent and would love to see Jill Stein in the White House! However, I'm very concerned that the voting will be very close, that Republican efforts to control voting and even mess with the results of electronic voting, and that marginal Republicans are less likely than their Democrat counterparts to vote for other parties. I realize that I have to vote as much to keep Mittens out of the White House as to give Obama a second chance to fulfill his campaign promises.
 
 
-7 # Smiley 2012-11-01 12:07
I tried that DMP and got 60 thumbs down. Too many people put their hands over their ears when they hear anything bad about Obama. Personally, I don't think our kids have a chance in hell with either Romney or Obama in the White House. They are both corporate pawns. Jill Stein gets my vote. I'm sick of voting for evil... greater or lesser.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:04
Then go vote, but you are voting for Nit. no thumbs down, you are voting your belief.
I am voting to keep Nazis out
 
 
+12 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:39
Quoting MidwestTom:
Do some research on the Libya raid, it is loaded with 'back room coverup' while American lives were lost. I am sure that they are doing everything possible to keep this from becoming a major news story.


Consulting NewsMax or Faux News is NOT research.
 
 
+111 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-10-31 07:27
Even NPR sits on their thumbs and does nothing to deliver the truth. In fact they do worse, they play one recording of Mitt's myths after another, and mostly just describe what they think Obama said! I wish everyone posting here would spend the rest of their time posting your excellent comments at NPR, Yahoo! News, and even Fox News to get the maximum exposure till next Tuesday! I also have a prediction to make. I predict that if Romney has a majority of electoral votes as of midnight next Tuesday, even if he has well under 270, Mitt and his supporters will demand that we stick to the Constitution and those not getting to vote ON TUESDAY because of the hurricane Sandy are just out of luck, just as Bush's supporters manically did in Florida in 2000! If Mitt is behind he will demand that the storm wrecked states have their opportunity to vote extended by days or weeks. Republicans are ruthless and shameless, and will do or say absolutely anything to win!
 
 
+42 # Spirit42 2012-10-31 08:16
Spot on Michael!
 
 
+16 # DPM 2012-10-31 09:24
Where would his faith in God be, then?
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:05
He may not want these votes, as too many are against him....
 
 
+127 # ppages 2012-10-31 07:29
Here's the thing that baffles me: why is everyone, including you in this post and Obama in the debates, letting Romney use his term as governor of Massachusetts as a selling point? His approval rate when he left office was in the 20's. His state was 47th in job creation while he was there. Worked well with dems? He attempted some huge number of vetoes and was overriden on most if not all. Yet the message voters get is that his governership is evidence of what a great president he would be.
 
 
-107 # wantrealdemocracy 2012-10-31 07:33
OK, Romney is a liar. But that does not say that Obama is any better. Listen to Obama talk of the terrible threat of Iran. Sounds a lot like the 'weapons of mass destruction' of the bush. And, to top it off Obama has taken the 'right' to have anyone killed that he, Obama, suspects may be a 'terrorist'. A pox on both of the corporate puppets! Don't vote for either of them!
 
 
-73 # engelbach 2012-10-31 08:01
Obama worshippers refuse to accept that he too is a corporate puppet, and as much a war criminal as GW Bush.

Romney may be worse, but that's no reason to foster illusions about Obama.

I tried to correct the negative rating you've got, but they keep coming in.

Labor Party 2016.
 
 
-61 # Smiley 2012-10-31 09:18
So did I. People put blinders on when it comes to Obama.
 
 
-49 # DPM 2012-10-31 09:26
Me too.
The lesser of two evils is...guess what?
We've gotten into this habit of voting that way and the only ones that suffer is us.
Sorry, Republicans and Democrats, but it is true.
 
 
+3 # Todd Williams 2012-10-31 14:33
It is NOT TRUE! NEVER True! You are dead WRONG!
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:11
Well I voted for John Meyers do you remember him? Too many people wanted third party and most voted for evil.

You are all TeaPartiers from how you lie and distort facts.

When any of you can walk on water let us know when the gig is happening
 
 
-13 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:44
See, nobody is an Obama worshipper, but the folks with Obama Derangement Syndrome believe the lie.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:09
I can think of perhaps ten leaders who were peaceful...so you think OB did the bombings on his own, no consent needed, no military or cia bs given to him.
Small mind. Please do not insult the Labor Party that is disgusting
 
 
+71 # randrjwr 2012-10-31 08:16
I cannot agree! Romney is clearly the greater of the two evils in this election and every vote possible should be for Obama--a vote for anyone else is de facto a vote for Romney. This is especially important in the "swing states." Daniel Ellsberg has discussed the reasons for this in his article at (I originally had a link to Ellsberg's article here but it was removed, I guess. Are we not allowed to include links? Contact me at raymonda@zianet.com and I will gladly send you the link--or Google "Ellsberg and swing states") , which I recommend highly.
 
 
-5 # Smiley 2012-11-01 12:26
randrjwr,
As long as people think and vote like you, we will never get anything but "evil". I don't think we can save the planet or our children and grandchildren if we continue to vote for the "lesser of 2 evils". Haven't you heard both Obama and Romney talking up the anti Iran propaganda lies? Haven't you seen their talk trying to "drill baby drill" each other? Jill Stein got arrested yesterday for trying to take supplies to people trying to block the southern half of the tar sands pipe line. She or someone like her won't get elected this time, but I'll make a statement by voting for someone who is at least trying to save a future for our children.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:14
Besides running your fingers and mouth what have you done to Change things in twenty years, ten, how about in the past hour...any good will at disaster sites?
Rescue work? Protest? Marched? Organized Community? Go to Local Meetings and get involved.
Buy American? I didn't think so..crawl back
 
 
+80 # reiverpacific 2012-10-31 08:25
Quoting wantrealdemocracy:
OK, Romney is a liar. But that does not say that Obama is any better. Listen to Obama talk of the terrible threat of Iran. Sounds a lot like the 'weapons of mass destruction' of the bush. And, to top it off Obama has taken the 'right' to have anyone killed that he, Obama, suspects may be a 'terrorist'. A pox on both of the corporate puppets! Don't vote for either of them!

Wrong!
Obama promised vigilance on Iran but not direct military action and I suspect is aware that most Americans are war-weary. He is also for a leaner-meaner military using highly trained special forces on carefully targeted points -as in Bin Laden. I don't agree with all of his policies either but still prefer him as an intelligent and thoughtful leader who is as truthful as the Beltway culture permits him to be. He is also from a multi-cultural background.
Twit on the other hand would go to war in a heartbeat without considering the consequences and inevitable blowback. He wants to use to the max' the lumbering, polluting and scatter-gun might of the Behemoth that sucks up so much of your taxes and give the military a further $2Tr IT DOESN'T EVEN WANT! His estrangement from any kind of truth or substance, amply demonstrated ignorance of the world beyond his circumscribed Mormon outlook is frightening and his agonizing twists and turns to please one day this group, one day another are dizzying at best.
No difference, eh ?
 
 
-71 # Robt Eagle 2012-10-31 11:13
You are nuts!!! The military would take the two trillion in a heart beat. The ships are getting old and very few spare parts, pluis many have outdated electonics/comp uters...my daughter is a Surface Warfare Officer (SWO) on a guided missle cruiser, was on a destroyer for three years prior. Theses ships are under manned as well. You folks are living in a dream world. Obama is a disaster in every form!!! His policies have destroyed this country worse in four years than all that has gone by in the past. Obama is trying to destroy America, look at his record, it is destruction over and over again. Vote Obama out of the White House at all costs!!!
 
 
+30 # Todd Williams 2012-10-31 14:35
No Eagle, it is you who is nuts. My neighbor was a Lt. Cmndr. in the US Navy, is voting for Obama, and understands military procurement. He told me Obama is on the right track and most officers he knew are with our president on this one. So you can go peddle you BS elsewhere!
 
 
+24 # David Starr 2012-10-31 15:19
Quoting Robt Eagle: "Obama is a disaster in every form!!! His policies have destroyed this country worse in four years than all that has gone by in the past."

Rather than fact, you continue to belch out what could be considered mass hysteria, from one person. But I remember somthing far more dispicble related to the military, and this is more important than an overbloated military on the verge of "vomiting: Bush Jr., ordering U.S. soldiers to Iraq, really give G.I.s a real stab in the back when those who were wounded, had PTSD, etc. During that time, he cut funding for veterans' benefits. What timing. Use soldiers like cannon fodder then dump those who need help back home into the "American gutter." Explain how Obama's a disaster, if you can.
 
 
+5 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:47
You,re an idiot and I suspect more of a canary than an Eagle.

Or maybe you're the Cheshire cat.
 
 
+12 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:48
Oh yeah, if you're right, why are 2/3 of all military service campaign donations going to Obama?
 
 
+7 # randrjwr 2012-11-01 08:11
You say about Obama: "His policies have destroyed this country worse in four years than all that has gone by in the past."

Worse than G.W.Bush? You can't possibly believe that. To recount all the damage Bush did would take far more characters than I am allowed here.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:15
Really, that is funny did your daughter have sex change. not even six months ago it was your son. You really are a GOP..

I have family in service and ships are newr than what you are lying about, maybe you should re look.
 
 
+24 # unitedwestand 2012-10-31 12:16
Those of you dissing the President are going to risk a Romney/Ryan administration. Consider this, President Ryan!

If there are things you don't like that the President has done, (and I think he has done tons of good) we at least have a better chance to push him to do better, with Romney what you can expect is the the likes of the devil incarnates like the Cheney's to go back to their bunkers and start 1/2 dozen more wars, and a decimation of our social structure.
 
 
+6 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:43
Quoting wantrealdemocracy:
OK, Romney is a liar. But that does not say that Obama is any better. Listen to Obama talk of the terrible threat of Iran. Sounds a lot like the 'weapons of mass destruction' of the bush. And, to top it off Obama has taken the 'right' to have anyone killed that he, Obama, suspects may be a 'terrorist'. A pox on both of the corporate puppets! Don't vote for either of them!


You mean messing with Iran's computers is the equivalent to Romney's threats to attack Iran? And I agree about Obama continuing the Bush policy as a bad thing. But blame Bush for starting them as well.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:08
Know they Enemy...Iran is still not upfront. But Nittens has agreed to go and bomb Iran. Think I would rather hear OB keep sanctions than a nuclear holocaust.

When the third party actually proves they can do something, sign me on I worked with Greens and other years ago and they are still in square one.
 
 
+117 # Barbara K 2012-10-31 07:42
No truth has escaped the dirty rotten mouth of Romneyhood yet. Why would anyone EVER believe what he says? If he doesn't tell the truth now, he won't tell the truth later either. He is a lying scumbag not worthy of the office he seeks. He has no credibility, compassion, honesty, integrity, or any good points at all. He is just a money grubbing vulture and it is our money he's coming after. He doesn't need the job, so why is he running? He isn't even patriotic enough to keep his nearly Billions of Dollars in this country and pay his share of taxes to this country. He is not the solution, he is a big part of the problem. Buys up companies, siphons off the profits, fires the workers and ships the jobs to China. Sound familiar? That is what put this country into such an economic free-fall in the first place. Want to do it again? I don't, and I don't think many people would want to do it again. We need to show this lying empty suit the door. We already have a good president busy doing his job while Romneyhood is being the grubby opportunist he is.
 
 
+61 # randrjwr 2012-10-31 08:21
This says it all--or almost all of it. We can add the attitude towards women (reproductive rights, equal pay, access to health care via Planned Parenthood, for example). And those who abhor Obama's use of drones need not run to Romney for relief; he has said clearly he supports the hit jobs and would do the same himself--and that, I believe, is NOT a lie.
 
 
+49 # bobv5366 2012-10-31 08:34
Way to go Barbara! You clearly point out an important facts about Romney's history.
Thank you.
 
 
+36 # doneasley 2012-10-31 09:52
Quoting Barbara K:
No truth has escaped the dirty rotten mouth of Romneyhood yet... We already have a good president busy doing his job while Romneyhood is being the grubby opportunist he is.


You bash 'em Barb. Every word is true! The Dems have let them get away with these lies, when they can sink the R&R ship by shining the right light on these lying bastards. I moved back to OH about a month ago and am involved in the Obama campaign here. My concern is the fact that Romney family and friends own a company that holds majority interest in the company that manufactures the voting machines that will be used in my county anyway (Hamilton County - Cincinnati). And NOBODY in the mainstream media is talking about it! The MSM is deathly afraid of the Repugnant Ones.

How are things going up there in MI?

... Don
 
 
+12 # Barbara K 2012-10-31 17:50
doneasley: Standstill here. Were able to get the Emergency Manager thing on the ballot, now we just need to vote to be rid of it. The recall petitions are still being held up by the R court. He would have been recalled already if there were not so much crookedness going on here. We have an opportunity with the ballot proposals to fix some of it. Including 3 new judges, and to get Collective Bargaining in the state constitution. Just hope we are not too overloaded with brainless Tbaggers. They are thinning out now that they see that what happens to us, also happens to them. Keep up the good fight in OH. I suggested a few times for us to hang out at our precincts and watch for the Tbaggers that are going to pretend to be Poll Watchers. Call the police if they bother us at all. File a complaint for Voter intimidation, Invasion of privacy, and Voter suppression. Send them packing. We DO NOT have to show them any ID or anything else the creeps want to see. They have no rights. We just deal with the Poll Workers only. Fight fire with fire. lol.
 
 
+3 # giraffee2012 2012-10-31 19:28
Barbara K: What do you think of Chris Christy's endorcement of President Obama's aid to his NJ last night! I think Christy lost all chance of running as Pres or VP in future on the Republican ticket - but did a door open? He is (maybe was) a big name with the GOP - and ... I think he could have a future now that he stepped up to the plate and hopefully will be a "game changer" for those whose heads are not too deep in the sand. Just a thought
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:21
And when the cameras were off...do you think Christie was there just for the people?
You think he is going to change stripes...
 
 
-37 # PatriotMom 2012-10-31 07:50
Robert,
Thank You for all that you do! I enjoy your columns. I must call you out on this one though for your partisanship. First full disclosure, I'm a GREEN, voting for JILL STEIN the only electoral party in the U.S. without corporate masters or lies.
Please do an article now in balance of this one , pointing out the numerous lies told by Obama in his campaign. I can't site them all here & now. I'm a working Mom, who also does senior care for my Dad.
However off the top of my head, please recount all of Obama's campaign promises & then illustrate his actions first weeks in office til now; droning innocents overseas, hiring Goldman Sachs (the bank that just ripped off America) in his administration, doing nothing to fix the Patriot Act or save Planned Parenthood. Hiring Arnie Duncan (public school killer) to head up the Dept of Education. Allowing banks & GM to feign bankruptcy so they could continue Union busting.
Lets be fair and tell BOTH sides of the TRUTH please. You are one of the last journalistic hopes of the American People.
Sincerely,
:DMagone
www.deborahmagone.com
 
 
-95 # jtatu 2012-10-31 07:57
We already have a huge liar occupying the White House and we need to get him out of there. He is asking defense contractors to join him in a conspiracy to deceive the public by violating the Federal WARN Act and agreeing for the government to reimburse them for their liability for doing so. This is about as bad as it can get. He has lied to us about Benghazi. He has lied to us about the taxes in Obamacare. And he has lied to us about stripping welfare reform of the work requirements. He needs to hit the road and go back to Chicago where they can use an experienced community organizer.
 
 
+20 # reiverpacific 2012-10-31 13:37
Quoting jtatu:
We already have a huge liar occupying the White House and we need to get him out of there. ----- He needs to hit the road and go back to Chicago where they can use an experienced community organizer.

You, like the other reactionary with military family which I've quit responding to as a hopeless, blinkered case, are lying to yourselves, having drunk some potion that takes reason prisoner.
Your former dim-bulb of a "selected" president took the country into two wars we are still paying for on a bunch of egregious lies and lied about "Compassionate Conservatism" (an oxymoron from a moron) and the country from a surplus into a depression we are still trying to crawl out of.
And I suspect that there is a wee bittie racism there too.
The US military is bigger than the next 14 nations combined, "Defense" is the biggest lie of all. Hell China just got it's first aircraft carrier -a junked reject from S. Korea which can't even launch aircraft yet. The so-called defense department is a lumbering, polluting, destructive, tax-sucking global tool of corporate state which knows no allegiance but profit and imperial aspiration. If you believe anything else you are delusional and I hate to think of the young people who are in it's savage maw believing they are "defending the homeland against the bad guys", most of whom were "our bad guys" at one time.
You lot must live in a comfortable cocoon of fantasy and breed lies.
 
 
-18 # jtatu 2012-10-31 17:20
You do not know me,reiverpacifi c, and your remark about "racism" reveals your idiocy. No one who knows me would ever suggest that I am in any way racist. You are insulting, sir.
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 21:02
Your own words give a hint of racism. Ever met a racist who DIDN'T deny it? Are there NO racists anywhere?
 
 
-11 # jtatu 2012-11-01 10:05
You don't even know my race, do you? You so-called "progessives" - a better name for you would be "obfuscators" - don't need facts. You just make up your own. And one of the consistent facts you make up is that anyone who disagrees with you or your egotistic president is a racist. What arrogance to believe there are no valid reasons to disagree and to to continue clinging to this president and his failed policies.
 
 
+5 # David Starr 2012-11-01 14:40
@jtatu: For me, I'm checking out the repidity of what sounds like a continuing loop in your brain. I don't give a damn what race your are: white, nonwhite, mixed, martian, etc.

I've noticed those on the right misuse left-sounding epithets, like the terms racist and sexist. As with others, they're more namecalling, because of thier negativity, than accurately using them. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you and others refuse to go beyond your potential for intelligence. Rather, you reveal the mental capacity for only namecalling and using a simple tit-for-tat argument. It's easy to go "ynah, ynah, ynah" like a first grader.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 16:25
It would have taken me 600 words to make the same point you just made so perfectly. Great comment.
 
 
-8 # jtatu 2012-11-01 17:02
What? You people are whacko. I have called no one a "name." I never used the word "racist." Reiverpacific played the race card. I believe he is one of the "progressives." This whole string got started when Reveirpacific suggested my ideas are racist. One need not be racist to disagree with this administration' s policies and values. And that is all you can say at the end of the day.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-11-02 12:42
Isn't "whacko" a "name"?
 
 
+2 # David Starr 2012-11-03 10:47
@jtatu: Ideally, while I would prefer, e.g, a Left party or Left coalition to take over from the Repubs and most Dems, we're in quite a spot right now. I am tired of the "lesser of two evils" tactic, seeing both "parties" are ideologically the same, with different tactics. But The GOP has really gone off the deep end. It is self-evident. They'ed have us regress back to a political stone age if they could, and with greed being good. But something has to give. The current political situation is more and more unsustainable, at least forthe 99%. Inevitably, both "parties" have to go.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:23
And people of other cultures are not racists...give me a break
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2012-11-01 09:58
Quoting jtatu:
You do not know me,reiverpacific, and your remark about "racism" reveals your idiocy. No one who knows me would ever suggest that I am in any way racist. You are insulting, sir.

No I don't know you -perhaps just as well for both of us.
I do have a pretty diverse range of friends and associates across the socio-political and racial spectrum that I can converse broadly with but you reveal much about yourself in every reactionary word you infest RSN with*.
I wrote, and not directly AT YOU but at the overwhelming majority of scared, reactionary white men, that I SUSPECTED a wee bittie racism as part of a general statement of response. Maybe it touched a nerve -don't take it on if it doesn't fit you but even you can't deny that the majority of those who keep railing against Obama have a racist element underlying their motives; I hear it daily where I live.
If the shoe fits, wear it, otherwise let it go.
It was part of a response to your pot calling the liar black (All politicians lie for Gawd's sake), if you are going to support and vote for a liar so consummate, his own handlers can't keep up with him and he keeps tripping over his own falsehoods.
And Twit is a prominent member of a notoriously racist cult-like religion, his spray-on tan notwithstanding ; go figure.
* Can you point me to a right-leaning forum or talk show where I can post and not be screened out? No rightist has responded to this question yet.
 
 
-7 # jtatu 2012-11-01 17:09
What I realize about you and your ilk is that you know Obama cannot be defended except to accuse those that disagree with him and you of being racists. I'm not sure that I actually knew this until now.
 
 
0 # Cassandra2012 2012-11-05 11:51
Cannot get on rightwing forums because rightists don't like being confused with the facts.
 
 
+6 # David Starr 2012-11-01 14:27
@jtatu: You don't need to be racist to cut your own throat for the 1%, with 99% feeling the "blade," regardless of race.
 
 
+4 # Todd Williams 2012-10-31 14:37
That is an absolute falsehood and you know it.
 
 
+43 # Spirit42 2012-10-31 08:14
The corporate news media died for me a long time ago. I can not and will not trust any news outlet owned by the plutocrats or the oligarchy controlling the corporations who own news outlets.

Even reporters on MSNBC make me shake my head at times with Andrea Mitchell being one of the biggest ass kissers of all.

I put my money right here on RSN and a few other independent news sources and blogs. Then I know I'm reading truth and fact.
 
 
+38 # giraffee2012 2012-10-31 08:53
IF we could turn off FAUX - the people who think Romoney is the answer could find out what Romoney (backed by Koch, Rove etc) will do to the democracy we are trying so hard to keep. Those GOP I meet tell me exactly what they hear on FOX, Rush, etc.

Recently I asked one of them "Do you believe Pres Obama was born in HI, is a Christian, and loves this country" When she said no, I replied "then I will no longer discuss anything political with you" Although she continued, I said nothing which finally stopped her babble - We were stuck at a public dinner table and came in 1 car (this will never happen again to me.)
 
 
-42 # jtatu 2012-10-31 12:17
I believe Obama was born in HI, but he doesn't seem to take Christianity seriously and you cannot say he "loves this country" because he says clearly that he wants it "fundamentally" changed,he consistently denies American exceptionalism and Jeremiah Wright was his spiritual leader. He hippocritically , dumped his friend Wright, rather than stand with him because of his own narcissism and political reasons.
 
 
+17 # reiverpacific 2012-10-31 13:40
Quoting jtatu:
I believe Obama was born in HI, but he doesn't seem to take Christianity seriously and you cannot say he "loves this country" because he says clearly that he wants it "fundamentally" changed,he consistently denies American exceptionalism and Jeremiah Wright was his spiritual leader. He hippocritically, dumped his friend Wright, rather than stand with him because of his own narcissism and political reasons.

If you take Christianity seriously, no wonder you are delusional.
It's better than appearing to take it or any other religion seriously then slaughtering so many without conscience and denying health care to millions.
 
 
-18 # jtatu 2012-10-31 17:22
There you have it. I do take Christianity seriously. Do you take anything but yourself seriously ?
 
 
+11 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:59
Quoting jtatu:
There you have it. I do take Christianity seriously. Do you take anything but yourself seriously ?


Are you aware that St Matthew of Matthew Mark Luke and John said that if you show off your religious beliefs in public you're a hypocrite and don't really believe it.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:28
I also remeber a quote that simply says if you pat yourself on the back, do not look to me to reward you.
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 21:05
Do you take James 2:5-26 seriously? If you're a Christian, as you say you are, then you do. If you're a conservative, as you obviously are, you don't.

It is the word of Jesus Christ and it is diametrically opposed to all conservative ideology.

Read it for a change and get back to us.
 
 
-8 # jtatu 2012-11-02 07:26
Interesting reference, Billy Bob. This scripture was the subject of a Bible study I attended just last week. I do take these words seriously, but I do not believe they are directed to governmental policies. The exercise of political power was not Jesus's style. And btw this whole matter of Christianity was introduced above by giraffee2012, not me.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-11-02 12:52
He didn't bring up Christianity. He brought up the fact that the right accuses the President of not being a Christian.

YOU brought up Christianity by replying that he doesn't "take Christianity seriously".

I find it revealing that you think the President's Christianity is an issue that you think's worth calling into question, but you don't think the Bible has anything to do with government.

----------------

Now, about your cop-out that James II has nothing to do with government:

When you can show me that conservatives show ANY care for the poor EVER, and don't need the government to twist their arms, I'll believe that it has nothing to do with government.

When you can tell me that conservatives think religion and state should be absolutely separated I'll listen to your argument as well.

Until then, Jesus was living under the Roman Empire. Jesus was ABSOLUTELY POLITICAL. He prophesized that the Roman Empire would be destroyed at a time when saying so endangered his life.

----------

How can you, on one hand, take James II seriously, and on the other hand say our government needs to tell people they're on their own, and when they're starving in the streets they should have thought about that earlier when they were too busy being born in a poor neighborhood?

That entire part of the Bible is about social economic justice, and as a typical conservative, you can't admit it.
 
 
-5 # jtatu 2012-11-02 17:52
I replied to his question.
I do not think the president's religion is an issue.
I believe that Christian "social economic justice" is not imposed by government.
I believe that grace and political power are two different things.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-11-02 19:17
James 2 isn't about grace at all. It's about the Christian fact that actions speak louder than words, and the fact that we are our brother's keepers.

Conservative ideology is that our brothers can go to hell if they can't "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". Conservative ideology is that it's ok to say someone else "doesn't take Christianity seriously", while not having any actions to prove that we were actually listening when we were told to love our neighbors as ourselves.

Spin it anyway you like, but the fact is that you're trying to pretend James 2 doesn't exist and that it magically doesn't apply to you. What's worse is that you claim the right to question someone else's Christianity.

As it says in James 2. Show me your faith, and I'll show you my deeds.

What do repugs think of Obama "redistributing " money away from the rich to help the poor?
 
 
-2 # jtatu 2012-11-03 11:00
I see nothing about government or political power in James 2. I do see a call to take care of the poor which means voluntarily and lovingly investing one's time and money in helping the poor. I know a lot of so-called conservatives, which I think are the true "progressives," who do exactly that. You Obfuscators want the government to do this for you so you don"t have to make the sacrifice yourself. THe government is not the solution; it is the problem.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:40
Neither should pander into the other ones arena. I believe Presidents' not being a religious fanatic, zealot, cult is a blessing.
His Faith is between him, his Family, and his Creator as it should be.

Only religious racists bring up another man's faith like it is trash. I make fun of others Faith since most have none and profess too much.

I need no man's writings to make me Believe in Creation.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:34
Jesus also went intothe Temple probably on more than one occassion in several areas and thru idols down, and gambler out...he did not rack up points in Jewish eyes, they were afraid of losing their masses to Jesus or whomever. Roman laughed at these two. They were not afraid of either, they were sold Jesus under false pretenses, did the Jews a favor
I believe if tried today both were guilty.
OT is a diary showing how fragile we are, how paranoid. New Testament tries to bring people out of the Dark Ages of submission to State and Religion...not too many get that. Both written by men.
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2012-11-01 10:32
Quoting jtatu:
There you have it. I do take Christianity seriously. Do you take anything but yourself seriously ?

O' Hell I don't take myself that seriously. -Now you are making assumptions that you accused me of earlier and you couldn't be more wrong. In fact, I'm known as a bit of joker in my neck of the woods and chuckle my way through most things, from religion, to politics to personal tough times -you name it; and I'm lucky enough to have a wife who is likewise and a daughter who is heavily infected (or plagued) with her ol' man's sense of the ridiculous. In fact I try to put a li'l humor in some of my RSN posts but maybe that slipped by you.
I find most reactionaries (as opposed to reasonably rational conservatives) seriously defective in the humor department, especially the unco' religious of the species. My wife's elder brother is a good example and he is a miserable son-of-a late auto dealer (who was a great laugh).
Let me leave you with this:
"And in all their promises of Paradise
you will not hear one laugh".
Bob Dylan (America's greatest poet in my 'umble opinion)
"The Gates of Eden".
"Frau Blucher" -"Neigigigihhhh "! Heh-heh.
 
 
-5 # jtatu 2012-11-02 06:51
Thanks, reiverpacific. You have told us that you think people who take Christianity seriously are delusional and that playing the race card is amusement and supposed to be funny.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-11-02 12:52
Spoken like a true hypocrite.
 
 
+8 # Todd Williams 2012-10-31 14:39
Oh, just because he doesn't wear his religion on his sleeve like Rethug nutcases, that makes him less of a Christian? Just what in the hell do you kow about his religious practices in private with his family? Nada. Zip. Nothing.
 
 
+3 # bingers 2012-10-31 18:57
Are you aware that the stuff Wright said that has all the scumbag Republicans peeing their pants over took a total of 5 minutes out of 20 years and was mostly about the government syphilis study which gave blacks placebos when they thought they were being treated.

The best thing about Heaven is that no Republican has gotten there in the last 30 years.
 
 
+12 # Cassandra2012 2012-10-31 15:05
Grover Norquist wants to be the man behind the curtain, offering Romney the pen ...
We aren't in Kansas anymore.
 
 
+9 # Barbara K 2012-10-31 17:41
giraffee2012: Good for you. These lunatics are brainless twits who cannot think. Their brains are wired wrong, medically proven. Not worth a second of our time. They are paid by the Koch bastards to come on these sites and dispute anything we say. We were warned about them over a year ago. I see they are slithering onto this site now.
 
 
+4 # kelly 2012-11-01 06:03
That happened to me recently too. I was out with a guy who began talking about the same thing plus women's issues. I told him he needed become more informed on his issues before making statements of that type. He kept saying more things many of them racist(I had never seen this side before believe me or I'd have never gone anywhere with him). Anyway , I suppose he figured he "had" me because we were out together. Soon I arose, placed some money on the table for the meal and went to find the city bus. I ride them all the time and they are very convenient in times like that.
t when it comes to jerks like that, I have found.
 
 
-16 # James Marcus 2012-10-31 09:29
So, we all agree. NO liars in the White House. And, both Romney and Obama are Liars (straight up). Arguing their minor differences is ridiculous...an d playing right into their hands.
The system is 'rigged', or 'limited', and those now 'in control' know it very well; have learned how to take advantage of 'American Democracy's' weaknesses.
So, how do we break this gridlock, and draft another Party/Candidate ? How do we retake our Democracy?
The House is Burning!
 
 
+30 # Canada23 2012-10-31 09:55
Quoting James Marcus:

The system is 'rigged', or 'limited', and those now 'in control' know it very well; have learned how to take advantage of 'American Democracy's' weaknesses.
So, how do we break this gridlock, and draft another Party/Candidate? How do we retake our Democracy?
The House is Burning!


This is a huge dilemma - but it seems that this election won't address it. I agree that the USA is cooked if Romney is President - and even worse if the Senate and Congress are Repub. What to do? Vote Dem this time. Then work like mad to grow the Greens from local on up. Unless you have that organization, you won't stand a chance. It will be slow and hard work.
BTW, the same kind of work we need to do in Canada to get rid of Emperor Harper.
 
 
+23 # jlg 2012-10-31 12:14
Thanks for talking commonsense, rather than taking a hopeless position, like voting for Jill Stein this time round - let's work to get her in the White House next time, or in 8 years if necessary! Meanwhile, Obama should get another chance to fulfill his campaign promises, this time without facing total Republican opposition to his policies.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:48
I have said that for 25 years. Some States actually worked locally and have climbed...but Tuesday is not a ladder step I will take for someone whose name I never heard until Primary.
Many of the Third Parties, smack of snobbism. They have their agendas..guess what so does the two that need to go.
Everyone has an agenda, try to work up a list, work on them...but no let's go get money from Lobbyists. I know that Dems and Thugs once were good parties, now they are just fat, lazy.
 
 
+25 # AndreM5 2012-10-31 11:52
Yes, the House is burning but it is the House of Reps.

Romney by himself is almost useless, devoid of ideas, reason or plans. He is a tool, no more, but one ready to do what he is told including veto endlessly. He doesn't appear to really want the job of President, just the title.

The real problem is having the House of Reps in the hands of the Kochs, Wall Street, et al., and the Senate in endless fillibuster mode. Romney merely makes their takeover complete.

We mush retake Congress.
 
 
+7 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 15:32
Saying the difference is "minor" is like saying your bathroom sink is the same as the Niagra Falls.

They both involve water.
 
 
+8 # bingers 2012-10-31 19:01
Every word out of Romney's mouth is a lie or flip flop. Does Obama lie? Probably sometimes, but not religiously like Romney.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 21:06
To paraphrase a famous comment, every word Twit says is a lie - even "and" and "the".
 
 
+45 # walt 2012-10-31 09:36
The lies told by Romney and Ryan have been an outrage that should have been loudly protested by the entire media and public. Add to that his demeaning comments about 47% of Americans and we should not be seeing any ties in any polls. Romney should have been dismissed already.

Wake up, America. Romney is a liar who is backed by big money that has no regard for the truth or the people!
 
 
+5 # bingers 2012-10-31 19:03
The funny thing about that statement by Romney is that a larger % of his base than Obama's is included in that 47%.
 
 
+25 # JSRaleigh 2012-10-31 09:42
Do keep in mind that the one percenters of the Rentier Class actually own the so-called "liberal" media.

Romney's lies are their own lies, and they're not going to call attention to that.
 
 
+28 # in deo veritas 2012-10-31 09:52
Unfortunately it seems that few people realize the the American Crossroads lying commercials are orchestrated by the little coward neofascist Karl Rove. The lobbd of our people killed in Iraq is on his dirty little hands as much as the rest of the Bush gang. Regardless of how much of a twit Romney is, it is Rove and the Koches pulling the strings and they will continue to do so until they are stopped or we are destroyed. Unvle Adolf is laughing his ass off at us.
 
 
+24 # David Starr 2012-10-31 09:54
Quoting: "...Romney debuted an ad in Ohio showing cars being crushed as a narrator says Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job."

Does the GOP presidential pretender actually realize his doublespeak? Or does he know and in turn think most U.S. citizens are stupid?

I hope the U.S. citizenry understands that old saying, which Bush Jr. screwed up one time: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Or is the last part W's ".uh...you don't get fooled again?"
 
 
+5 # kelly 2012-11-01 06:14
The answer is the second one. That's why he was so surprised when he got booed in Ohio and Iowa this week when he made those statements. Did you see when he was supposedly helping in the Food Bank yesterday? The reporters asked a few questions and he said well now we're gonna go pack a few boxes for some people of the great state of, um, ...New York ...or somewhere like that. Like Jon Stewart said it sorta warm the cockles of your, um, ... heart... or something like that.
 
 
+5 # David Starr 2012-11-01 10:06
@kelly: Another PR (pretending Republican) show acting as "charitable" as he is terrible with bad acting.
 
 
+27 # in deo veritas 2012-10-31 09:56
There is so much concern amongst the birthers about whether Obama is really a Christian. Do you have any idea how many people out there do not consider the Mormons real Christians? This is all irrelevant is an elected official does things that are against the interest opf the country and its people. Look at how the Bush gang tried to make God an accmplice to its dirty deeds (not done dirt cheap either or we wouldn't have this monstrous deficit!). Apologies to AC/DC.
 
 
+7 # Cassandra2012 2012-10-31 15:10
POPULIST RAGE
to the Tea-Party



Everyone is suddenly angry.
Angry in concert.
They’ve identified the bad guys —
the corporations, the insurance companies and banks,
the venal
superrich, their vain wives and over-indulged children,
those errant
gas-guzzling
husbands who’d been cheating all along.
They all say they didn’t know.

They say they were
innocent, victims
of slick hotshots, those
self-absorbed moneymaking high fliers.
They,
they’re just the poor populace, the taxpayers, the American people,
innocent.

They don’t say,
how years ago they voted; how they cheered
the stunned deer president they let
be swept right up into a lie of office,
they don’t say how they jeered
the claims
of torture, the doubts of any questioners, the opposition
caged,
far from self-congratula tory conventions.

They don’t say,
how they
chose
not to see
the flimflam sleight
of hand,
the sneer of cunning.
 
 
+23 # MainStreetMentor 2012-10-31 10:48
Where It Went

Divisiveness breeds conflict
Camaraderie yields sooth
Barack works for everyone
Mitt fights that nail and tooth

Red despises everyone
Especially the Blue
If you’ve got no money
Red doesn’t care ‘bout you.

And should you be a female
Your healthcare just won’t be
According to the “Red-Coats”
There's no equality

Wall Street rapes America
Following their creed:
Financial domination,
Driven by raw Greed

So go on there watching
Fabrications on Faux News
Or mental wrecks of Glen Becks’
On America’s subterfuge

If supporting Romney/Ryan
Is how your time is spent
On future days you’ll wonder:
Where your country went
 
 
+15 # Onterryo 2012-10-31 11:20
To all of those people who say they are going to vote for a third party or not vote....vote Obama and then say you did what you planned to do anyway. We will believe you...and Obama will still get your vote!
 
 
+24 # ganymede 2012-10-31 11:20
I'm absolutely convinced that rightwingers are in the main psychotic individuals who do not know the difference between right and wrong. How, after all that's said and done, these misbegotten individuals can't clearly see the differences between Romney and Obama. Now they're trying to blow up the Benghazi affair which, as tragic as it was, pales in comparison to Bush's foreign policy and the shameless destruction of Iraq over nothing except oil, and Romney's foreign policy which will further alienate the rest of the civilized world. How's bombing Iran for you and setting off a conflagration even worse than Iraq. And how to you feel about voter suppresion and hacking, and Romney's unbelievable lying. Calling rightwingers proto-fascists is hardly an exagerration, is it now? Oh yes, not all rightwingers are racists, but most racists are rightwingers.
 
 
+4 # bingers 2012-10-31 19:10
No, Right wing politicians are mostly psychotic, but their voters are just low information voters who fall into 5 categories, ignorant, stupid, bigoted, greedy and in some cases, perhaps, insane.

a study showed that Fox News viewers were less informed of facts than those who never watch the news.

And,ironically, Fox is not allowed in Canada because Canada requires news to be factual and they have been officially deemed to not telling the truth and so ineligible for a icense there.
 
 
+2 # kelly 2012-11-01 06:16
Good for Canada!
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-03 19:55
God Bless Canada and all others who refused to be out foxed
 
 
-41 # frederico 2012-10-31 11:38
Mr. Reich, You are a liar, and a cheerleader for evil. Either that or you don't have a clue about the harsh reality of amEriKan "politics" and vulture capitalism. I doubt that. A vote for either of the two corporate stooges is a vote for suicide for America. You are one of the lemmings, awaiting further orders to march off the cliff. Vote Rocky or Green.
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-10-31 21:08
Me too! I'm one of the "lemmings" who'd rather live in a country with President Obama, than have my country destroyed by President Romney.

Apparently "lemmings" are people who care about their families.
 
 
+23 # hoodwinkednomore 2012-10-31 11:44
I am definitely going to shed myself of this binder I have been trapped in for too long--while Mittens has been busy lying, raking in zillions, and flip-flopping-- and I am going to work my behind off to make sure he doesn't get away with throwing out any votes for President Obama 'tallied' by any of his rigged machines!
 
 
+12 # EGH 2012-10-31 13:19
Based on the tendency of the Romney Lie Machine, I think that history will make Richard Nixon look like a choir boy when compared to Mitt Romney. It is sad to see a man who is trying to be the leader of the 'free' world demonstrate such a lack of backbone or integrity and worse, 50% of the voting public are either accepting or unaware.
 
 
-25 # Michael_K 2012-10-31 14:08
Hey Robert Reich... Are you trying to tell us that Obama is not a liar? You're both pathetic and hilarious at the same time!

And still, the American electorate is so stoopid and brainwashed that they will vote massively for either Obama or Romney.

What an effing waste!
 
 
+11 # Sensible1 2012-10-31 14:51
Speaking of waste...
 
 
+6 # Cdesignpdx 2012-10-31 20:43
I wonder how many votes for "the enemy" will be found in rumpled bags, and dark closets after 11pm on Tuesday.
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-11-01 05:09
Without a paper trail, very few. That's why repugs want to go paperless. It's obviously not about their "love for the environment".
 
 
+5 # mjc 2012-11-01 08:03
The Romney campaign puts out about a lie a week, significant lies, lies that have been thoroughly checked and investigated BUT that doesn't stop the principles of the campaign, Romney or Ryan or McDonald or Rubio from continuing to spread the very lie. Where is the media? Where are the plants in the audience who could ask the question, WHY are you telling this untruth? The auto companies involved in the latest lie have publicly denied Romney assertion about selling Jeep to an Italian company who was going to take it China. But what is so damn frustrating is that no one is really ready to go down the line and tell these people they ARE lying. The same can be said for the $750 million supposedly drained from Medicare to fund Obamacare. Ryan has been and is repeating that over and over. Uninformed voters don't get much information from the news or from the internet; only from the loud, raucous rallies. That is where the damage is.
 
 
+6 # fredboy 2012-11-03 12:17
Being a Romney speechwriter must be the easiest job in the world: you just make crap up!
 
 
+3 # Greg Marriner 2012-11-03 14:58
This Mittendacity must end on Tuesday, if there's a God in Heaven.
 
 
0 # pagrad 2012-11-06 07:42
I am not in heaven.
 
 
0 # pagrad 2012-11-06 07:40
On this Election Day,
Please join us in the
Crusade to have Osama bin Laden laid to rest in
Arlington National Cemetery.

Osama fought for freedom, liberty and for the American way of life.

After all, nothing is more American than killing people! (No Right is more honored than The Right to Bare Arms). Osama may not have killed as many Americans as Former Vice-President Dick Chaney, but, hey, Dick Chaney had a head start. And like Dick Chaney, Osama embraced all of the Republican Party policies: Reduction of taxes for rich people (Osama came from a rich family), Reduce education for women, Reduce American Spending, Reduce Health Care, Reduce People, etc. Like Chaney, Osama tried to have his missionaries, in as many countries as possible, to apostolate the American way of life. This Saint (Osama, not Dick Chaney) was a very devote, religious man, trying to help men and women meet their Maker and to ease the path to Heaven. Osama may not have been as efficient as Vice-President Dick Chaney and President George W. Bush in his efforts to bring America to its knees, but that in no reason not to honor him.
…And, while you are at it, please pay tribute to Mitt Romney who has the same principles and will do his best to fulfill Osama's ideals.


 

THE NEW STREAMLINED RSN LOGIN PROCESS: Register once, then login and you are ready to comment. All you need is a Username and a Password of your choosing and you are free to comment whenever you like! Welcome to the Reader Supported News community.

RSNRSN