Introduction: "Bill shares his thoughts on corporate executives who - enabled by the Citizens United ruling - strong-arm their employees to vote as they say."
Portrait, Bill Moyers. (photo: PBS)
When Bosses Push Their Politics
27 October 12
ILL MOYERS: Here's a significant revelation of which you may not be aware. The plutocrats know it and love it, and the rest of us should be forewarned. When the Supreme Court made its infamous Citizens United decision, liberating plutocrats to buy our elections fair and square, the justices may have effectively overturned rules that kept bosses from ordering employees to do political work on company time. Election law expert Trevor Potter told us that now "corporations argue that it is a constitutionally protected use of corporate ‘resources' to order employees to do political work or attend campaign events - even if the employee opposes the candidate, or is threatened with being fired for failure to do what the corporation asks."
Reporter Mike Elk at In These Times magazine came across a recording of Governor Mitt Romney on a conference call in June with some business executives. The Governor told them there is quote, "nothing illegal about you talking to your employees about what you believe is best for the business, because I think that will figure into their election decision, their voting decision and of course doing that with your family and your kids as well."
And here's Governor Romney two months later, campaigning at an Ohio coal mine:
MITT ROMNEY: This is a time for truth. I listened to an ad on the way here. I'll tell you, you got a great boss. He runs a great operation here. And he - Bob? Where are you Bob? There he is.
BILL MOYERS: Look at all those miners around him, steadfastly standing in support, right? They work for a company called Murray Energy and attendance at the rally, without pay, was mandatory. Murray Energy is notorious for violating safety regulations, sometimes resulting in injuries and deaths. And the company has paid millions in fines. The CEO, Bob Murray, a well-known climate change denier and cutthroat businessman, insists that his employees contribute to his favorite anti-regulatory candidates, or else. In one letter uncovered by "The New Republic" magazine, Murray wrote quote, "We have been insulted by every salaried employee who does not support our efforts." So much for voting rights and the secret ballot at Murray Energy.
Mike Elk discovered that the Koch Brothers, David and Charles - who have pledged to spend $60 million defeating President Obama - have sent a "voter information packet" to the employees of Georgia Pacific, one of their subsidiaries. It includes a list of recommended candidates, pro-Romney and anti-Obama editorials written by the Koch's and a cover letter from the company president. If we elect the wrong people, Dave Robertson writes, "Many of our more than 50,000 US employees and contractors may suffer the consequences, including higher gasoline prices, runaway inflation, and other ills." Other ills? Like losing your job?
This is snowballing. Timeshare king David Siegel of Westgate Resorts reportedly has threatened to fire employees if Barack Obama is re-elected and Arthur Allen, who runs ASG Software Solutions, e-mailed his employees, "If we fail as a nation to make the right choice on November 6th, and we lose our independence as a company, I don't want to hear any complaints regarding the fallout that will most likely come."
Back in the first Gilded Age, in the 19th century, bosses and company towns lined up their workers and marched them to vote as a block. As we said at the beginning of this broadcast, the Gilded Age is back with a vengeance. Welcome to the plutocracy. The remains of the ol' USA.
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Conscience? Independent thought? Poor people (the current 99 percent) aren't equipped to worry about right and wrong -- we need not trouble our scruffy little heads about poverty and wars and human inequality. THAT's what the Boss is for! And don't go around upsetting other peasants with your disrespectful opinions, either.
People, we are right back down to the Old Plantation, with moral and intellectual crap like the Kochs and Grover Norquist and the Romneys in the Big House. What ARE we going to do about this? It cannot be a question of "if" -- it's how and when, or we leave our kids a world where maggots are in charge.
There are poor people in the USA (and we owe to our collective conscience to help them) but on a planet where more than two billions and a half people live on less than two dollars a day you don't make your point credible by claiming that 99% of the population of the US is poor.
Still, thumbs up.
Employers with such employees have been reduced to the status of serfdom.
Black box voting.
And now, employer intimitation.
It seems that Republicans cannot win a fair election - and they know it.
Now people who own wage slaves can dictate how they should vote if they want to keep their jobs.
Not much difference today, but the same types of people benefit.
The 3/5 rule was only used to allocate the number of seats per state in the House of Representatives and the number of electoral votes in the Electoral College. So the white (male) voters in slave states got proportionally more power in Congress and proportionally more weight in selecting a president, making it harder for Congress to pass laws against the interest of the slaveholding class as a whole. But someone with 500 slaves got no more representationa l oomph than someone with 2.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/14017/koch_industries_sends_45000_employees_pro_romney_mailing/#comment-682294249
Brawny and Mardi Gras paper towels
Angel Soft and Quilted Northern toilet paper
Dixie paper cups and plates
Vanity Fair paper plates and napkins
Hefty anything
Georgia Pacific computer paper
Starting with the noble concept of 'one man, one vote,' where simple math would seem to predict the outcome of an election, ergo 100 voters of poor means would always outvote 1 voter of rich means; we have arrived at a situation where, in a good year, only 50% of eligible voters actually vote, and there is a new math, where 1 vote of a 'rich' man, counts for more than 100 votes of men of lesser means.
In addition, we have a system that disregards the will of the people by way of the vote of the populous, and instead gives the final decision to an archaic group called, illogically, a College.
To be honest, I don't get it! Well, I get it, but I don't want to 'get it.' I don't want to face the fact that the experiment is slowly going south; it is failing.
We as a nation have gotten so complacent that we accept all this BS just as long as we get to watch our favorite sit-com, cheer for our favorite sports team, own the latest electronic gizmo, and keep the lousy job, as long as we do as the boss tells us to do. Sounds a lot like the time of the Robber Barons who let the workers know that if they didn't come to work on Sunday, don't bother to come in on Monday!
I hope and hope that we are better than this. We deserve better than this.
Let's do all we can to let our reps know CU should be amended.
Unions AREN'T ALLOWED to get away with this. If they did tell people who to vote for, it wouldn't be because of any threat by the union itself, but, once again, about the threat of the CEOs.
If Obama wins and CEOs get mad about having to pay taxes for a change, they might just go ahead and fire a bunch of peasants to make a point.
If Twit wins and CEOs are happy about not having to pay taxes, they will ALSO be happy about the fact that Twit won't mind them cracking down on unions. In fact, Twit will crack down on unions as well.
The unions are telling people what's in their own best interests. The CEOs are telling people to shut the fuck up and do what their told if they know what's good for them.
Hardly "cut from the same cloth".
My guess is that the CEO's politics is more to your liking.
Quoting 4merlib:
I've yet to hear of unions fucking with voting machines or purging voter rolls, or especially demanding to see who any particular member voted -they still and always have respected the alleged secret ballot -it's one of the things Unions are pledged to defend! So please provide some backup examples of your contentions, purty please. Names, incidences and source will do for a start.
Nobody has ever claimed that "Union Bosses" as you put it, have been pure and clean but these arrogant corporate want-it-all's many of whom should be doing long, hard time including Chase's CEO who claimed to be "Doing God's Work" in partially instigating and helping to screw up the global economy, -And there are plenty recorded examples of THAT if you want them. But I wonder if perhaps you don't want to because THEIR politics of Corporate statehood, trickle down economics and sponsored slavery are more to YOUR liking.
Love Citizens United do ya?
When I worked for a large Boise, Id-based international engineering, construction and mining company in 1979 early 80's, we all had a circular from the CEO stating in no uncertain terms that it was "Strongly suggested" we all vote for the "Candidate (Reagan) who was pro-business and anti-regulation".
I tore it up in full view of the floor I was working on, including the principals with the loud remark "so this is Corporate Democracy????".
Fortunately I was in a fairly strong, senior position and suffered no repercussions that I can remember.
Question; as the ballots are allegedly "Secret", how would anyone find out how a particular person voted? That's like a priest sharing a confession with the press.
OF COURSE, I forgot for a moment and 'scuse my naivety, this is how 21st Century America squanders it's high-tech abilities - plus the dicky machines are owned by Twit supporters and managed somehow by one of his spawn.
The employers are typically threatening that if their preferred candidate loses, the company will end up in such dire straits that they will have no choice except to make massive layoffs. It's designed to make employees feel that their livelihood is dependent upon a Republican win, regardless of their personal vote.
If Romney wins, democracy will be ousted from the nest and bosses' political instructions will become the norm. Employment and so many of the things like healthcare that give ordinary folks a fingerhold on survival will become so precarious that they'll be willing to crawl to keep their jobs and few remaining benefits.
Hard to understand why any sane person who isn't a billionaire should vote for GOP. And if you're wealthy, it's even worse, you'll be laying up trouble for yourself and worse trouble for your kids.
But then, what makes anyone think today's America is sane? Would we REALLY be where we now stand if ours was a healthy, well balanced society?
Take from the bottom of a wall to build up the top and the wall will probably collapse. Any moron can see that.
1. Fire them all and hire replacements, as Ronald Reagan did with the air traffic controllers.
2. Fire any of them - the way to strike fear into people's hearts is to make the innocent suffer.
3. Fire anyone who seems like a loose cannon. You may want to check their social media use.
Please excuse the awkwardness of this post. I'm still learning to use this new smartphone.
That's Romney for you!
Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.
I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:
http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm
John Steinsvold
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."~ Albert Einstein
Don't know how this got reposted. I edited out a word included by mistake and here I am.
It's not a democracy-it's a feudal oligarchy pretending to be a republic.
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