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Excerpt: "Mitt Romney is a robot who will say and do whatever he's programmed to do. Ryan is the robot's brain. The robot has no heart. It's your job to enable America to see this."

Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)
Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)


Memo to Joe, Re: Debate

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog

11 October 12

 

eware: Paul Ryan will appear affable. He's less polished and aggressive than Romney, even soft-spoken. And he acts as if he's saying reasonable things.

But under the surface he's a rightwing zealot. And nothing he says or believes is reasonable - neither logical nor reflecting the values of the great majority of Americans.

Your job is to smoke Ryan out, exposing his fanaticism. The best way to do this is to force him to take responsibility for the regressive budget he created as chairman of the House Budget Committee.

Ryan won't be able to pull a Romney - pretending he's a moderate - because the Ryan budget is out there, with specific numbers.

It's an astounding document that Romney fully supports. And it fills in the details Romney has left out of his proposals. Mitt Romney is a robot who will say and do whatever he's programmed to do. Ryan is the robot's brain. The robot has no heart. It's your job to enable America to see this.

I suggest you hold up a copy of the Ryan budget in front of the cameras. You might even read selected passages.

Emphasize these points: Ryan's budget turns Medicare into vouchers. It includes the same $716 billion of savings Romney last week accused the President of cutting out of Medicare - but instead of getting it from providers he gets it from the elderly.

It turns Medicaid over to cash-starved states, with even less federal contribution. This will hurt the poor as well as middle-class elderly in nursing homes.

Over 60 percent of its savings come out of programs for lower-income Americans - like Pell grants and food stamps.

Yet it gives huge tax cuts to the top 1 percent - some $4.7 trillion over the next decade. (This is the same top 1 percent, you might add, who have reaped 93 percent of the gains from the recovery, whose stock portfolios have regained everything they lost and more, and who are now taking home a larger share of total income than at any time in the last eighty years and paying the lowest taxes than at any time since before World War II.)

As a result it doesn't reduce the federal debt at all. In fact, it worsens it.

On top of all this, Ryan is on record - as is Romney - for wanting to repeal both ObamaCare (taking coverage away from 30 million Americans) and the Dodd-Frank law (thereby giving cover to Wall Street).

Your challenge will be get this across firmly and clearly, with an appropriate degree of indignation - on a medium that rewards style over substance, glibness over detail, and optimistic happy talk over grim reality.

My suggestion: Be cheerfully aggressive. Take Ryan on directly and sharply but do so with a smile. Force him to take responsibility for the regressiveness of his budget and the radicalism of his ideology.

Prepare your closing carefully (unlike the President seemed to have done last week), and tell America the unvarnished truth: Romney and Ryan plan to do a reverse Robin Hood at a time in our nation's history when the rich have never had it so good while the rest haven't been as economically insecure since the Great Depression.

Their agenda is all the more remarkable in that we have a growing budget deficit to deal with, along soaring healthcare costs and aging boomers without enough to retire on because their net worth went down the drain with their homes.

The fundamental question is whether we're still all in it together - whether as American citizens we continue to have obligations to one another to assure equal opportunity and help for those who need it - or we're on our own, without a common bond or a common good. Romney and Ryan represent the latter view, a view utterly at odds with what we have accomplished as a nation.



Robert B. Reich, Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley, was Secretary of Labor in the Clinton administration. Time Magazine named him one of the ten most effective cabinet secretaries of the last century. He has written thirteen books, including the best sellers "Aftershock" and "The Work of Nations." His latest is an e-book, "Beyond Outrage." He is also a founding editor of the American Prospect magazine and chairman of Common Cause.

 

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+14 # fredboy 2012-10-11 07:00
Ryan and Biden should put on one heck of a show. But someone has got to ask Obama why he caved in and threw the match. Seriously. Was he afraid? Had he been threatened. Until someone asks and he responds we are left in a fog--and it's hard to vote for a fog.
 
 
+21 # lincolnimp 2012-10-11 09:11
Quoting fredboy:
Seriously. Was he afraid? Had he been threatened.

Finally, someone wonders out loud if President Obama had been threatened. It's a can of worms no one really wants to think about...but I believe he was acting as a man who was concerned about his and perhaps his family's safety. There, I said it.
 
 
+9 # Linda 2012-10-11 14:14
That is always a possibility ,he has had many threats on his life sense he took office ! Also we should remember he has a ear piece which he can receive messages from his secret service in case of such a threat or some urgent world matter that needs to be addressed !

Actually I looked at the video of the debate again and Obama really didn't do as bad as fredboy here and some others are suggesting !
He came out confident and he made his points but there was a moment where he had fear in his eyes and appeared shaken .
So there very well could have been something going on that we are not privy to !

Fredboy I think you are way to hard on the President when you have no clue why he suddenly went off track in the debate. You actually could have been right to think his life or his families was threatened ! Being in CO where gun laws are lax it could have been his own life that was threatened !
Something distracted him you could tell by the change on his face and his body language .Before that he was in command of that debate !
 
 
+36 # crinvegas 2012-10-11 09:23
Not at all difficult to vote for a fog (and I disagree with that term) when it's at least honest and consistent. Remember those two words when you go to the polls - 'honest' and 'consistent.'
 
 
+32 # vicnada 2012-10-11 10:03
Quoting fredboy:
But someone has got to ask Obama why he caved in and threw the match. Seriously. Was he afraid? Had he been threatened.

1)When empty chairs are lynched, it isn't an empty threat;
2)I don't think Obama was prepared for the fog of mendacity that Romney spewed;
3)Just back from fivethirtyeight .com...this is more than recoverable;
4)Biden will blister Ryan if he takes Reich's advice;
5)Reich is right again.
 
 
+11 # Texas Aggie 2012-10-11 11:07
I agree that Obama probably wasn't prepared for the onslaught of mendacity that he faced. He was just flabbergasted that Romney would lie so baldfacedly.

For more on how a politician should react to BS, see the following.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/10/give-me-more-politicians-with-this-kind-of-passion/
 
 
+18 # popeye47 2012-10-11 10:49
I'm sure with Biden, there won't be any dull moments. I hope to hell he takes it to that lying bag of $hit and shows the American people what kind of person, Ryan is.
 
 
+58 # pernsey 2012-10-11 07:12
Lyin Ryan will be doing just that tonight, just like Mitt, he will go up there and lie is ass off.

For some reason content doesnt matter. Mitt went up there last week and lied about everything...ho w do you eve respond to that? It doesnt matter what he said, he was aggressive...re ally? This is who we become, the presidential debates are reduced to reality TV mentality?

I chose to listen to the words, in my view, Obama won last week. If lying, rudeness, and creepy sneers are the criteria then Mitt won.

Thats their strategy to try to appear moderate, which they arentm and back peddle on all their original stances. I hope Joe hits it out of the park, and nails Eddie Munster to the wall.

God help us, He will be the only one who will be able to, if Romney/Ryan get elected.
 
 
+15 # ghostperson 2012-10-11 09:08
You're right. "Eddie Munster." I didn't put the look together with the name.
 
 
-43 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:17
Yeah, lyin ryan...just like our "hope for change"- kept so many of his promises didn't he?

geesh.
 
 
+29 # Texas Aggie 2012-10-11 11:14
Yes, as a matter of fact. Check out Obamacare, Lily Ledbetter, stimulus, car manufacturing, mpg, EPA, Iraq, bin Laden, doughnut hole, Consumer protection agency, and the list goes on.

If Congress hadn't blocked it, he would have shut down Guantanamo and put in a jobs program that would have unemployment down another 0.5 to 1.0%.
 
 
+5 # David Starr 2012-10-11 13:52
@letsfixit: Compared to past and present GOP candidates/pres idents, Obama is light years ahead in the promises department. But when looked at alone, I'm not too inspired by Obama, although a Romney is a wretch by comparison.
 
 
+39 # Billy Bob 2012-10-11 07:24
Great article!
 
 
+28 # moreover 2012-10-11 07:50
I only today noticed the superb 2 minute videos produced by Robert Reich for Moveon.org
Please add a link to those in your bio for Prof. Reich. They're even more instructive than his writing because his whiteboard illustrations are concise and memorable. Some are from 2011 but they hold up. Here's an example:
http://front.moveon.org/scribbling-sharpie-illustrates-the-truth-about-our-economy/
 
 
-127 # jtatu 2012-10-11 07:50
Too bad for you and your followers that Biden has no brain and no heart.
 
 
+31 # reiverpacific 2012-10-11 08:31
Quoting jtatu:
Too bad for you and your followers that Biden has no brain and no heart.

Prove that typical poisonous reactionary statement, mindlessly demonizing somebody just for the hell of it, with no point, reason or backup.
C'mon, lets hear something in support of no brain, no heart. You must be talking about Twit or Dimwits.
 
 
+48 # dkonstruction 2012-10-11 08:34
Quoting jtatu:
Too bad for you and your followers that Biden has no brain and no heart.


I have never been a democrat and thus am not a "follower" of either Biden or Obama but to even suggest (whether one agrees with his conclusions or not and I for one more often disagree than agree with his) that Biden has neither a brain nor a heart shows that you in fact no nothing about this man.

As, i said while i more often then not disagree with his conclusions, Biden has always been one of the most thoughtful members of congress regarding US foreign policy (e.g., his take on Iraq early on was that Iraq has never truly been one country but rather three, held together in recent decades only due to the brutality of Saddam's regime and thus to talk about putting Iraq back together as a single country was foolish and would only lead to ongoing internal sectarian conflict; instead, we should have been talking to the Iraqis about creating more of a federation of semi-autonomous regions but with shared oil revenues). As for Biden having no heart; well, if you consider a guy with blue collar roots that has never forgotten where he came from and who his real consituency is and should be then i suppose your idea of "heart" are those like Romney and Ryan who believe that the total destruction of the gains made by workers in the post world war II era while claiming to be looking out for "little guy" in the process.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:11
Biden is no dummy on number crunching so I hope he did his homework.
Ryan has been on the road stating lots of numbers but then the next day he fashions the statement to what Romney said the day before when called out.
I do not believe he is a brilliant Economics Person because he has not proven it. Anyone can sit down on a computer, put some graphs, charts and spreadsheet together....It is what is between all those lines and columns that the Sheeple do not read.
Good Luck Joe....facts nothing but the facts!
 
 
+31 # ghostperson 2012-10-11 08:51
Been drinking that canned Kool Aid again, huh? Obama the worst president in history ignoring Dubyah and Uncle Joe as a buffoon while Ryan can't and won't do the math of his own budget proposal--as said by the party of Atkin, Bachmann, Rove, bring on the "raputure" and transvaginal probes. Keep drinking the Kool Aid and maybe your shape shifter and math challenged Aynrandiantheat heist "Catholic" anti-female VP candidate can do something other than dance around the impact of their proposals. As for no heart, best check that mirror as far as mainstream Americans are concerned Uncle Joe is a rock solid guy with more heart that all the constituency of the Grand Old Plutocrats.
 
 
+23 # CL38 2012-10-11 09:03
Actually, he has far more brain and heart than you.
 
 
-25 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:19
ain't it the truth?

Why can't you see a political talking head vs someone who is willing to say
S*(& at the dinner table. When will politics start saying it is what it is? People who can't see us selling our souls to china and other overseas bond investors, without a single chance of payoff?
 
 
+4 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 10:57
Why can't you see a self-pitying talking head every time you look in the mirror.
 
 
+21 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 10:55
Really......... ... I didn't see any of mitney's sons going into the armed services never mind actually being sent to Afghanistan. I guess Biden did some good parenting. No silver spoon up anyone's butt.
 
 
+13 # pernsey 2012-10-11 11:52
Quoting jtatu:
Too bad for you and your followers that Biden has no brain and no heart.


All you just said is projection, that is what is actually true about Mitt R.

You are brainwashed and the sad thing is you probably dont even know it. Just say it about the other guy first, when its your guy its true about...we arent kids here, we can see your a Fox news sheeple.
 
 
-5 # edge 2012-10-11 12:09
Quoting jtatu:
Too bad for you and your followers that Biden has no brain and no heart.


In the remake of the Wizard of Oz they tried to get Joe as the Scarecrow but he kept telly Dorothy what a big F'ing deal everything was!
 
 
+7 # dkonstruction 2012-10-11 12:27
Quoting edge:
Quoting jtatu:
Too bad for you and your followers that Biden has no brain and no heart.


In the remake of the Wizard of Oz they tried to get Joe as the Scarecrow but he kept telly Dorothy what a big F'ing deal everything was!


Isn't that the "children's story" that really isn't that at all but rather a parable about the powers of the bankers (i.e., the yellow brick road was gold) and the men "behind the curtain" pulling the strings vs. the workers (the tin man), the farmers (the scare crow), the populists (the cowardly lion who was really william jennings bryant) and those advocating for a silver backed currency (in the book, as opposed to the movie, dorothy's slippers are silver) to break the powers of the gold-backers (the banksters)?

See Ellen Brown's important book Web of Debt for a great explanation of our financial system and the money supply (and how we can't "go broke" in a "fiat" money system) and the need for publicly owned financial institutions in this country. You will also never look at the Wizard of Oz in the same way ever again.
 
 
-19 # Buddha 2012-10-11 07:55
I keep telling myself that he certainly can't do worse than Obama did. But if he does, this election is pretty much over.
 
 
-55 # edge 2012-10-11 08:07
One can only hope!
 
 
+3 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:04
@edge: And one, or a few, can only "fix it" to help pull out a "victory."
 
 
+23 # WolfTotem 2012-10-11 08:53
Quoting Buddha:
I keep telling myself that he certainly can't do worse than Obama did. But if he does, this election is pretty much over.


Do you really take voters for such idiots that they're guided by a few minutes in a SHOW? If that were true, any fairground barker could be president.

Romney and family look like Hollywood actors hamming it up as President & First Family - pity Goya's not around to paint them! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Francisco_de_Goya_y_Lucientes_054.jpg) But is that enough to win an election?

If it is, Heaven help us - our survival instincts have gone AWOL.

Problem is... we've not yet seen any real debate. And I don't know if we shall - they don't do that any more.
 
 
+14 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 10:59
Quoting WolfTotem:
[quote name="Buddha"]I keep telling myself that he certainly can't do worse than Obama did. But if he does, this election is pretty much over.


Do you really take voters for such idiots that they're guided by a few minutes in a SHOW? If that were true, any fairground barker could be president.

Hey, that's how ronny got elected.
 
 
+7 # Texas Aggie 2012-10-11 11:18
Yes, a lot of voters are idiots. Look at the polls for confirmation.
 
 
+32 # MainStreetMentor 2012-10-11 07:59
I'd say "Good Luck" to Vice President Biden - but "luck" won't produce being "Top Gun" in tonights' debate - it'll take a hard-core, inflexible stance against the shameful voting record and even worse legislative introductions by Ryan in order to become the champion of this debate. Ryan is NOT the sharpest cheese on the cracker.
 
 
+8 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 11:00
I'd love to see Lyin Ryan go up against Howard Dean.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:16
I personally take him for swiss cheese Lots of holes.... We buy NY and Vt cheese....when the cheese heads get these creeps out of office will come back.
Love the People hate their Politicians
 
 
-75 # dawnie41 2012-10-11 08:22
Unfortunately, Prof. Reich, like most of his liberal followers continue to fail to face the fact that WE'RE BROKE! We must face that fact, not as a lie, but as an unfortunate reality!
 
 
+34 # BlueReview 2012-10-11 08:42
'We' may be broke--but the 1% certainly are not. Remember that fact, please.
 
 
+43 # MidwestDick 2012-10-11 08:54
"We" are not broke. The federal government is over $10 trillion in debt, but that debt is held by private individuals, all of them doing business here.
In essence, these individuals were paying this money into the federal government in the form of taxes, but are now paying it in the form of loans.
What we have is a distribution problem. Wealth is being transferred rapidly from the pockets of those who work for wages into the coffers of the wealthy.
Saying "We are broke" is mere propaganda deployed to accelerate this really bad distribution strategy.
Why in hell you (and many like you who repeat this "we are broke" baloney) want to make the rich richer and leave the rest of us to starve in insufficient wage slavery is the great mystery of American politics.
 
 
-28 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:33
we are over SIXTEEN trillion in debt...not ten.
 
 
+7 # dkonstruction 2012-10-11 13:02
Quoting letsfixit:
we are over SIXTEEN trillion in debt...not ten.


and the FED has "lent" more than $16 trillion to the banks (at virtually 0% interest rate...which they should never have done but that is another story) on top of the official bail out funds which proves clearly that we are not broke and that it this is in fact impossible for a sovereign country that controls its own currency...and, so your point is?
 
 
+7 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:15
@letsfixit: The bulk of the debt sure did Obama a "favor," didn't it, after he inherited it. Where did the $10 trillion of that come from. Let's just say there was a smirking incompetent trying to act as president. But even the acting was bad.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:22
So they showed you the books? I think not we have debt yes but the Government whether State of Federal has money, lots of it...enough to pay themselves, buddies, family, friends.
Want to fix something .... take up Yoga, learn to breathe. Learn to work with others than against yourself.
 
 
+16 # BradFromSalem 2012-10-11 08:57
If we are broke, then that means we have an income problem. I say "if" because there are three things we can do to actually solve that problem. First, raise taxes in order to allow the government to facilitate a more equitable distribution of the country's world leading wealth. Second, we can print up whatever money the government needs to stimulate the economy out of recession. Third, we can devalue the dollar.
Stop pretending that for some reason there seems to be a problem of excess spending when we are talking about shifting costs away from shared expenses such as health care, education, transportation, medical research, safe energy, and ecological disaster prevention. The costs for those items under the Ryan plan would not go away, they are taken up by individuals; many of whom their lives and the lives of everyone, filthy rich included will be diminished. Thats reality.
 
 
+37 # ghostperson 2012-10-11 08:58
Indeed we are broke and why is that? Let's see: Republican wars we didn't pay for, simultaneous tax cuts while starting wards eroding a surplus and, of course, deregulation of the financial services sector who gambled compulsively with other people's money and brought us to an actual depression. Discretionary spending in this country is only 18% of our budget. We need Clinton era tax rates for the wealthy, to stop 150 year old out-of-date subsidies for the oil industry, bring down Medicare/Medica id costs by negotiating drug prices with Big Pharma whom the Bush administration authorized to write the prescription drug bill. As I see it, our debacle was brought to us by the GOP. How long did it take to get out of the Great Depression? Ans: 1929 until 1941. How was Obama going to fix anything with the party of "no" refusing to support even proposals that they had made just because their strongest desire was to make Obama a one-term president.
 
 
+11 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:32
what a great post.
 
 
-51 # Robt Eagle 2012-10-11 09:02
The folks on this site have no idea what it means to have to fork over thousands of dollars in tax to pay for the deadbeats out there. If each tax payer was assigned a deadbeat to come to their door every Friday afternoon for their tax to cover the deadbeat's financial needs, in less than two weeks the handouts would end. Unfortunately the gov't collects taxes from the hard working low, middle and upper classes and redistributes it to the deadbeats, or gamers of the system. Now don't get me wrong, there are surely those really in need, like the military veterans who deserve to be supported for their sacrifice for our great country's safety. But come on now, the welfare recipients for generation after generation...no w that is just insane. And we just find out that we are giving them free cell phones...that is ludicrous! Let's get rid of all entitlements, yes ALL, slowly diminishing them over 25 years. Get rid of Soc Sec, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Obama phones, ObamaCare (a disaster in the making), any form of government assistance...ov e 25 years and then we won't have any more freebies for the losers and the gamers and then there won't be any fraud either. Everyone would be responsible for their own crap and everyones taxes would go down, rich, middle, and poor...but we would still pay tax for defense, sanitation, infrastructure, and fire/police.
 
 
+11 # CL38 2012-10-11 09:31
Republican!!
 
 
-15 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:36
Quoting Robt Eagle:
The folks on this site have no idea what it means to have to fork over thousands of dollars in tax to pay for the deadbeats out there. If each tax payer was assigned a deadbeat to come to their door every Friday afternoon for their tax to cover the deadbeat's financial needs, in less than two weeks the handouts would end. Unfortunately the gov't collects taxes from the hard working low, middle and upper classes and redistributes it to the deadbeats, or gamers of the system. Now don't get me wrong, there are surely those really in need, like the military veterans who deserve to be supported for their sacrifice for our great country's safety. But come on now, the welfare recipients for generation after generation...now that is just insane. And we just find out that we are giving them free cell phones...that is ludicrous! Let's get rid of all entitlements, yes ALL, slowly diminishing them over 25 years. Get rid of Soc Sec, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Obama phones, ObamaCare (a disaster in the making), any form of government assistance...ove 25 years and then we won't have any more freebies for the losers and the gamers and then there won't be any fraud either. Everyone would be responsible for their own crap and everyones taxes would go down, rich, middle, and poor...but we would still pay tax for defense, sanitation, infrastructure, and fire/police.



taking responsibilty for your own action(S) is the core issue
 
 
+3 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:25
@letsfixit: You apparently don't know the complexity of human nature. Many have been responsible but still struggle to make ends meet. Few have been irresponsible and live like aristocrats. With society interlinked that way you'll have cause and effect both on an individual and collective level. There's not just the "bootstraps"; there's the whole "outfit."
 
 
+26 # MidwestDick 2012-10-11 09:37
Thank God you included sanitation in your list of acceptable government functions. We will still be able to throw garbage, like the stuff you just spewed, into a deep pit.
As many just said, the government is not redistributing to the deadbeats, it is redistributing to RICH deadbeats.
And how are they doing it? By cutting Soc Sec, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare etc. and "cutting taxes".
And you are helping.
Thanks a lot!
 
 
+28 # dkonstruction 2012-10-11 09:42
More welfare mythology...mos t folks on public assistance are on it for a relatively short period of time (i.e., approximately half leave the system after less than a year and 70% in less than two years).

http://www.urban.org/publications/900288.html

As for getting rid of "government assistance" i notice that you somehow forget to include in your list all of the "corporate welfare" that goes to some of the largest and most profitable corporations in the country that currently pay no income taxes or those earning above the current SS cap which means that for some huge portions of their income are not "taxed" at all.

So, in fact, you don't want to do away with all "government assistance" but only that part that goes to those at the bottom of the income/wealth ladder but keep in place all of the corporate welfare going to those at the top. Hardly even a credible, let alone a defensible, position.
 
 
+24 # BradFromSalem 2012-10-11 09:46
RobtEagle,
How many people are the true deadbeats? The ones that got approved for a mortgage they couldn't afford because the bank lied to Fannie and Freddie about the loan? How about those folks that lost their jobs to people in another country that not only work for pennies a day, but the company gets to write off their foreign "investment" making it close to free labor.
What about the people that take the money in my 401K use it to finance a buyout of a company my 401K is invested in, then suck out all the company's asset's and only pay 15% tax? For a no risk paper shuffle. Those people are true deadbeats.
Remember also that all the cuts you want o make does not eliminate the costs.
I for one would prefer to prop up a few deadbeats via my taxes than risk screwing the rest of the country.
If you are Christian, that is the path I think Jesus would follow. I think so, because as a Jew I know its the path to heal the world. In fact, nearly all religions likely follow the same morality.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:41
Thank You...
 
 
+17 # dkonstruction 2012-10-11 10:11
What's a deadbeat? I know "deadheads" but they usually only want "a miricle" in the form of a free ticket (which means they are actually trying to be productive citizens by not letting a good ticket go to waste because someone has an extra they can't use). So, what's a deadbeat? Is that a follower of both the Grateful Dead and Allen Ginsberg? Hard to imagine them showing up at my door and asking for much either. On the other hand, people like Romney who pay a far lower rate of taxes than i do despite making a gazillion times more than me do seem to fit your bill...so are these the "deadbeats" you're talking about?
 
 
+11 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 11:04
Well the upper 1% certainly don't know what it means to have to fork over thousands of dollars in taxes to pay for the deadbeats. By deadbeats you are including the tea-bags in congress who are recieving $1000K in farm subsidies. The Hedge funders who don't pay any taxes on their gains, the people like romney who send their money to off-shore accounts.....ri ght?
 
 
+12 # pernsey 2012-10-11 12:02
What about all the corporate welfare, you didnt mention all of that? We spend way more on corporate welfare then people welfare. I pay taxes and I would much rather see my tax dollars paying for other people then just having it dumped into corporations that dont really need it.

As long as you got yours, screw everyone else...typical republican mantra.

GOP = Greedy One Percent
 
 
+3 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:20
@Robt Eagle: While the richest have made profits to where the sky is not even the limit. There's not much left of that economic "pie" is there? Who took most of it through, in one way, the inequality of capital over labor. And that's a tip of the "iceberg."

And blah, blah, blah you go once more with some cliches that are becoming a bore.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:37
You know what...of all your posts, you leave me feeling filthy. You remind me of a Rapist. But then Republicans are rapists, murderers, pedophiles, thieves.

I believe in Spay and Neutering Programs...
 
 
+6 # Ray Kondrasuk 2012-10-11 16:52
If Romney's right that 47 percent of Americans pay no federal income tax, then 12.6 percent of Americans must be either elderly scrimping by on minimal Social Security, or unemployed. The rest of the 47 percent, according to the 2010 census figures, are the 34.4 percent of the population in the bassinet-to-bac calaureate category, ages 0-24. Surely we could levy a production tax on those young-uns.

The 20-to-24-year-o lds (7 percent) can finally return society's investment in them as their new paychecks begin whittling away at their mountain of tuition debt.

The 15-19 group (7.1 percent) bag groceries, stock shelves, deliver papers, and ask, "Fries with that?"

The 10-14 group (6.8 percent) baby-sit and mow lawns to produce parental escape nights and manicured mansions. Tax 'em.

The 5-to-9-year-old s (6.6 percent) produce discarded incisors; tooth fairies will file IRS donor reports.

Newborns through age 4? (6.9 percent) About the only thing babies produce is a lot of... well... how do we tax that?

Mitt's onto something. There's definitely revenue potential here.
 
 
+10 # tabonsell 2012-10-11 16:57
By "deadbeats" are you referring to the numerous corporations that pay no taxes on the hundreds of billions in profits they make from the American consumer each year and many of whom also get a check from the Treasury in addition to being untaxed?

Or is it the hundreds of corporations that pay a percentage of taxes in the 1-5% range and get billions of dollars from the government in the form of contracts for defense or other matters?

Or could it be the 7,000 millionaires who paid no federal taxes in 2011 because Congress has given them special loopholes and other paths around taxation?

If you would just do some research you might find that the likes of Mitt Romney pay less in taxes than does a house-cleaning single mother who just barely scrapes by. That's because her payroll taxes have been producing surpluses from 1983, when Reagan raised that tax, until George W. Bush trashed the economy. That surplus went to subsidize the likes of Romney to cover for the taxes he doesn't pay and the other 1%ers who rely on government for their income, protection, lower tax rates, etc., etc.

It seems you are proposing a return to the society that produced the likes of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Good luck with that.
 
 
0 # Mannstein 2012-10-11 19:28
Why should I pay for sanitation? I have my own well water and septic system. Why should I pay for infrastructure? I don't use bridges, cannals, or fly and I generate my own electricity. Why not just privatize everything including the military because according to the Rethugs the government can't do anything right.
 
 
+24 # CL38 2012-10-11 09:07
Yes, we're broke. Thanks to the failed Republican policies of two unpaid wars, tax cuts for the rich, and the unregulated Republican financial crash of 08, all of which greatly benefited the wealthy, Wall street and corporations, but has decimated the middle class and poor.

I say let the Republicans, corporations, the wealthy and Wall street, all of whom who created the dysfunctional and financial mess, let them pay down the deficit.
 
 
+4 # lollie 2012-10-11 14:49
Or maybe just start a few more wars. never mind the damage and ongoing care for those that serve.
 
 
+19 # ghostperson 2012-10-11 09:07
All I am hoping for tonight is some fun.

Joe does fun.

Conservatives have deluded themselves that Biden is a fool and that their boy is the only smart one on the stage. Just like they thought that their view--anyone but Obama--was widely shared.

Somehow the GOP through its Rove/Koch/TeaPa ry owners believe manipulating citizens' ability to vote, hostility toward women and anti-contracept ion, racial animus, scaring the elderly, cheap shots at education and teachers, preventing higher education for modest income students, more tax cuts for plutocrats and anti-Golden Rule postures are a winning combination. You can't be against everything human and be elected. They need to step out of the Ayn Rand bubble.
 
 
+20 # CL38 2012-10-11 09:08
Go, Biden, we are behind you...with you.... and support you all the way!!!
 
 
-22 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:22
just think if interest rates by world markets DEMAND we PAY MORE...

what is it? 3 to 4 billion a day in interest??? what if it spikes to 14 percent rates like Carter had?

We are toast.
 
 
+1 # Texas Aggie 2012-10-11 11:23
Or what if it stays what it is today, below inflation? We make out fine.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:46
Please go back and get your Grade School Education...you repeat lies...get educated. Learn to read, research, think for yourself.
Let's Fix It you want to fix what? You are negative, have no facts, repeat yesterdays news by bad columnists or Rush.
Want to fix something...try fixing your attitude. None of us are perfect but most people here have the ability to review, think, research and Think for Ourselves....Tr y it sometime could be a whole new adventure
 
 
+17 # Billsy 2012-10-11 09:23
We;re not broke dawnie41. In fact we're able to borrow money at ridiculously low rates despite the reactionary deficit/inflati on hawks. No, we have a troubled economy that requires massive govt. stimulus, the kind that provides money to states to retain teachers, fire fighters, police, roadworks, bridge repairs, etc. until the economy recovers and employment improves. THEN you do what Clinton did in the 90s and raise revenues, cut expenses when stimulus is no longer needed, and create a new surplus. Don't believe the hysteria brought on by republicans. they are simply trying to guarantee low tax rates for their wealthy sponsors.
 
 
+17 # reiverpacific 2012-10-11 09:29
Quoting dawnie41:
Unfortunately, Prof. Reich, like most of his liberal followers continue to fail to face the fact that WE'RE BROKE! We must face that fact, not as a lie, but as an unfortunate reality!

And who got us "Broke"?
It's like you are falling for the "We screwed once so let us in and we'll do it even more this time".
Or as in the old King and I, "Give us a kick if you would, your majesty -give us a kick if you PLEASE, your majesty!"
Are you familiar with the expression "Fink"?
 
 
+13 # dkonstruction 2012-10-11 09:35
Quoting dawnie41:
Unfortunately, Prof. Reich, like most of his liberal followers continue to fail to face the fact that WE'RE BROKE! We must face that fact, not as a lie, but as an unfortunate reality!


It is simply impossible for a sovereign nation that controls its own currency to be "broke." To believe otherwise is simply to not understand at all the nature of a "fiat" monetary system. If we are "broke" then how could the federal gov't "lend" more than $16 trillion dollars to the banks (which they should not have done but that is another story) on top of the official bailout funds?

For some enlightenment about how this "fiat" money system really works i recommend to all:

http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Money-Theory-Macroeconomics-Sovereign/dp/0230368891/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349976846&sr=8-1&keywords=modern+money+theory
 
 
+9 # rertel 2012-10-11 11:33
Speaking facts, two Mr. Romney won't face are 1) the vast majority of states (MA is an ironic exception) never attempted to address the economic problems posed by the cost of healthcare & 2)closing tax loopholes that affect mostly the rich will not cover the revenue lost to his tax cuts--that's math so simple even Paul Ryan should have time to do it.
Even if there were enough money to be found through cutting loopholes that affect mainly the rich, the claim that Congress will close these loopholes is a fantasy. I call this Romney's "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" proposal. Republicans will vote for the tax cut but when Tuesday comes, they won't close the loopholes--they 've already pledged this to Grover Norquist. If this weren't true, surely Romney or his allies Boehner & McConnell could suggest at least a couple of significant loopholes Congress would act to close, but they're more silent than crickets.
Reagan started the trickle-down approach, GHW Bush tried it again, and GW Bush tried it yet again. We ended up with massive debt & landed in a near depression. Now Romney wants to try it a fourth time. That's what I call an "unfortunate reality"!
It's time to return to the Keynesian approach Professor Reich advocates & stop this ridiculous, failed experiment with supply-side, trickle-down, voodoo economics. Then we will begin to see the debt come down.
 
 
+4 # tgemberl 2012-10-11 13:47
Dawnie,
When did we start being broke? It was when Ronald Reagan got elected in 1980. The US national debt was flat between 1950 and 1980. It's hypocritical for Republicans to claim to be guardians of fiscal responsibility. If you want proof of this, see this article by David Stockman, who was Reagan's financial director from 1981 to '85: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/opinion/01stockman.html
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:48
Sheeple do not read
 
 
+11 # tabonsell 2012-10-11 13:54
Please tell us who broke us.

Could it possibly be that the breaking began with Ronald Reagan who slashed taxes for the rich, let corporations run wild, raised taxes (payroll tax) on the working middle class, created a runaway deficit, piled debt on top of debt and did nothing to better the lives of most Americans while shoveling hundreds of billions of dollars to his friends in the defense industry to delivery arms we do not need? Could it have been that he increased government spending by about 70% but tax collects by only 60%?

Could it be Daddy Bush who increased government spending by 28% in his four years but tax receipts by only 16.5%?

Could it be Baby Bush who increased government spending by 89% but tax collection by only 5%? Or maybe it was Bush leaving Obama a deficit in the fiscal year 2009 budget of $1.55 trillion, which has been steadily lowered by Obama to be only $1.1 trillion now, a reduction in deficit spending of $400 billion.

Or maybe it was Baby Bush who lost more than 8 million jobs in the last year of his ruinous reign, but which the GOP now blames Obama for, in spite of him halting a descent into a second Great Depression.

Perhaps you could tell us how Mitt Romney is going to address that "Breaking" by reintroducing the very policies that broke us in the first place.
 
 
+7 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:12
@dawnie41: This demonizing of liberals has gone on quite a while. It's amusing because the word seems almost worn out, as worn out as the Right's propaganda.

We're broke? I think a certain $10 trillion dollar debt really made a contribution. And Obama wasn't president at the time. Can you guess especially who laid the groundwork for this? And how it's not going to be poofed away with a magic wand, especially in only four years? Nothing like borrow and spend to "help" reduce the debt.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:20
in fact barbie, we are not broke. We have sold out American Jobs, American People.
However their are enough coffers to make sure that all politicians, brass, their agencies and people who got jobs from their relatives and buddies doin favors...all have salaries, vacations, benefits coming from the National Treasury.
We are owned by debts owed....but push comes to shove, Politicians know the USA will go for a good price. Thanks to the Republicans of Now.
I would prefer to be an independent, libertarian, green, democrat than a NAZI
 
 
+18 # Fraenkel.1 2012-10-11 08:31
After the debate the media rewarded the better entertainer. Never mind what Romney or Obama said. I have a paranoid feeling that until the debate Romney underplayed his hand and acted a bit of the fool to lull the Democrats into a false sense of security. Obama took the bait. He then put on a "normal" political performance and got rewarded. Odd that the polls fluctuate so wildly considering that the country is almost evenly split. Wild fluctuations in opinion polls enhance the ratings and make money for the financial industry. Peace and quiet are good for the rest of us.
 
 
-5 # letsfixit 2012-10-11 09:20
this is quite good. What we see are the nuances and very few see them. Until we wake up to the psyche games being played on us, we'll never see change. You have to challenge what is normal and ask for change that is scary to everyone.
 
 
-30 # jtatu 2012-10-11 09:24
I do not believe Obama "took the bait." I believe Obama is so impressed with himself, reinforced by an adoring media and people like Reich, that he thinks all he has to do is put on a suit and show up. His narcissism makes him oblivious to reality. Remember "I am the One we have been waiting for." As Biden himself once said while explaining His Arrogancy's absence from a function, "the President's getting ready for Easter; he thinks it's about him."
 
 
+20 # ghostperson 2012-10-11 09:51
Well, I'll take that over hiding money offshore, announcing that Romeny likes to fire people and has written of 47% of the population as unworthy. It doesn't come anymore arrogant than that.
 
 
+12 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 11:09
No, President Obama thought he was dealing with someone had some scruples. He didn't realize that mittens suffers from SDS (scruples deficiency syndrome).
 
 
+10 # pernsey 2012-10-11 12:05
Quoting jtatu:
I do not believe Obama "took the bait." I believe Obama is so impressed with himself, reinforced by an adoring media and people like Reich, that he thinks all he has to do is put on a suit and show up. His narcissism makes him oblivious to reality. Remember "I am the One we have been waiting for." As Biden himself once said while explaining His Arrogancy's absence from a function, "the President's getting ready for Easter; he thinks it's about him."


I believe you watch to much Fox News to have an opinion based in reality.
 
 
-7 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:30
@jtatu" You don't know Dems, but you know how to make mindless accusations. Obama, like other past Dems in debates, drowned in nonresponses... a chance was there to take Romney to task and he didn't. Narcissism? Hell no. Political spinelessness? I'm afraid so.
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 17:00
I believe he was smarter by not getting baited into name calling.
He had a quiet,reflectiv e demeanor, didnot show tell and let the Opponent sound and look like a Meth freak.
Moderator stank
 
 
+3 # David Starr 2012-10-12 07:50
@KittatinyHawk: The moderator Jim Leher was pathetic. Romney did make himself out as a freak of any sort. Obama obviously had effective "ammunition" against Romney but hardly used it. Obama should show Romney for what he is, and tell him firmly.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:58
I am so surprised you could actually spell all those words;
Glad you chose your words, would have been negligible if you said I do think OB...

Stay in school, try to learn to think for yourself. Perhaps learn to research. I find that the deeper you dig to bury the opponent, the bigger/deeper the hole to bury yourself. Watch for the loose dirt....oops
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2012-10-11 16:59
Quoting jtatu:
I do not believe Obama "took the bait." I believe Obama is so impressed with himself, reinforced by an adoring media and people like Reich, that he thinks all he has to do is put on a suit and show up. His narcissism makes him oblivious to reality. Remember "I am the One we have been waiting for." As Biden himself once said while explaining His Arrogancy's absence from a function, "the President's getting ready for Easter; he thinks it's about him."

Could you please direct us to a credible source that shows this, preferably a video not made by FOX, for a bit of confirmation.
"Arrogance" and it's close collectively-im plied neighbor "Hubris" has been owned by the right lock, stock and barrel for as long as I can remember.
So give us a wee bittie authentication for this -shall we say over the top- statement, would ya? -Purty please.
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 16:53
Polla are bs...remember them thru Palin, Bachman, etc...up and down like a seesaw.
They Poll according to who pays. They know the times poor are home, rich are home, working class come home from work.
they know the R and D sides of town...please I worked for them. It is a scam and they make a lot of money.

Moderator was horrendous as expected.
Romnified was methafied
OB was Dignified...I chose him as he acted like a President, a person of Office.
 
 
+12 # mississippicraw 2012-10-11 08:44
Please tell me someone sent this to Joe. Great plan of attack!
 
 
-19 # Human Right 2012-10-11 08:49
We voted for Obama & change
What they got was a president who took the entire defense department bureaucracy of a previously discredited administration into his administration inclusive of the Generals, Secretary of Defense and all the rest ( this has never happened before); then gave us more phony war. While president Obama was receiving the “Nobel Peace prize” he respiratory simultaneously and successfully defended the architect of torture in a San Francisco federal court. In addition, he sidetracked attempts of the ACLU to remove the illegal overseas prisons and never gave even a feeble attempt to close the infamous Guantanamo prison. He has never tried to return our revered habeas corpus or remove the immoral, illegal, Patriot Act. As this is written he has placed ill advised military intimidation and economic sanctions over innocent Iranian people and continues to fund the illegal Zionist settlers three generations removed from WWII, (many from New York) in the Middle East. Recently Obama signed a law (National Defense Authorization Act) making the “Patriot Act” permanent and the USA is now officially a military/police state with the habeas corpus long gone.
 
 
+7 # Cassandra2012 2012-10-11 10:08
WE=? vs. They=?
You reveal you think you are not part of this.
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 11:11
Oh give it a rest. Until YOU actually sit in the Oval office and have all the facts at your disposal.....Sh ut it. We are all very tired of your unimaginative tirades.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-11 17:04
After you voted did you crawl back in your hole ? Seems to me when people started this nonsense of Dems4Change, they didn't look at how TeaPartier they acted. They were too busy to talk to the working class.
They were too busy to continue working for change.
You were all asleep the next year look at who you allowed into State, and Federal Positions.
You all want to blame someone....Look in the Mirror. You and the Democrats fell asleep at the wheel...still OB continued to move forward.
What have you done this year? I see nothing in Pa
 
 
+11 # peterjmck1 2012-10-11 09:11
You are - as usual - right on the money, Dr. Reich in terms of both style AND substance when advising Joe. You are translate the maze of economics and link it to the macro picture of politics and US cultural mores in a way that makes sense - in a "no nonsense" - kind of way. We may have - as Chris Matthews - puts it "Big Dog" Bill Clinton doing his folksy AK kind of thing. But - as a 5'2" person myself - Dr. Reich towers over Bill Clinton. And that is every pun intended. Thank you Dr. Reich!!!!!
 
 
+14 # Eddyiron 2012-10-11 09:39
I find it remarkable that Romney and Ryan keep saying as their talking points that people currently on Medicare shouldn't worry because the change is only for people under 55.

My astonishment is that none of the pundits or journalists respond that Romney and Ryan are saying the hell with those younger people who are the children and grandchildren of those currently on Medicare.

Do they not think that the current beneficiaries care about their progeny?
 
 
+6 # tazia@aol.com 2012-10-11 12:34
Quoting Eddyiron:
I find it remarkable that Romney and Ryan keep saying as their talking points that people currently on Medicare shouldn't worry because the change is only for people under 55.

My astonishment is that none of the pundits or journalists respond that Romney and Ryan are saying the hell with those younger people who are the children and grandchildren of those currently on Medicare.

Do they not think that the current beneficiaries care about their progeny?

What I find puzzling is what do they plan to do with all the money these people have paid in? Are they going to give it back to those who have probably worked for 30 years or more?
 
 
-10 # James Marcus 2012-10-11 09:39
we are simply choosing..... our executioner.
Arguing 'which is worse?', is a total distraction from the fact of current Financial Ruin, and the reality of being 'Chief World Terrorist', while blaming others......
and lies upon lLies
We are in Denial and Ignorance (yes, They 'Own the News')
 
 
+10 # Nell H 2012-10-11 09:40
"Cheerfully aggressive" Yes. I hope Biden is listening.

-- President Obama, too, for his next debate.
 
 
+10 # Nell H 2012-10-11 09:45
My personal opinion on the first debate is that President Obama was up all night dealing with the Syrian attacks on Turkey. He was tired.
 
 
+9 # fredboy 2012-10-11 10:12
Again, lots of chatter but no one has asked him the question: Was the president threatened? Was he afraid? Why did he perform so poorly. Guesses are worthless--ask the man.
 
 
-13 # jtatu 2012-10-11 11:00
Afraid? Obama thinks he is so much smarter than anyone else so he was probably not afraid. If he had any common sense, he'd know that he is out of his league and he'd start shaking in his boots for looking so inept.
 
 
+9 # bmiluski 2012-10-11 12:07
Ah the typical republican puppet. You people mouth what your neo-con puppet masters tell you to without any thought or consideration. I'd say you'd deserve the government you'd get with romney/ryan, however, we've already been down that road with bush/cheney and you people have taken NO responsibility for bringing our country to the brink of a grand depression. In fact you've wiped it out of your consciousness and you're trying to do it again with romney/ryan.
 
 
+5 # pernsey 2012-10-11 12:07
Quoting jtatu:
Afraid? Obama thinks he is so much smarter than anyone else so he was probably not afraid. If he had any common sense, he'd know that he is out of his league and he'd start shaking in his boots for looking so inept.


Obama is way smarter then Romney could ever dream of being.
 
 
+4 # David Starr 2012-10-11 14:33
@jtatu: Do you think you have the ability to express an intellectual statement, rather than juvenile finger-pointing ? I'll place my bets on the latter.
 
 
+6 # tswhiskers 2012-10-11 11:20
There's some very good advice in your article, Mr. Reich. There is a lot riding on this VP debate. Here's hoping Biden comes in confident but not cocksure and wipes the floor with Ryan. As a Catholic dealing with a very uncharitable fellow Catholic, I hope you know all the right buttons to hit all the right places to dig into him for good old-fashioned Catholic guilt.
 
 
+4 # David Starr 2012-10-11 12:24
Dear Vice President Biden,

When you go up against Ryan in your debate, DO NOT use the "art of compromise" in the form of nonresponses. It would be like a bad rerun, as has happened not just with Obama, but other Democrats in the past.
 
 
+2 # hoodwinkednomore 2012-10-11 12:29
I could not agreee more Popeye 47! Bag o' shits in the outhouse, now!
 
 
+1 # hoodwinkednomore 2012-10-11 12:33
Miluski. Hilarious!!! I think you are on to something here. And I am a nurse...
 
 
+5 # Corvette-Bob 2012-10-11 13:17
If you want to know what is wrong with the world you should immediately jump up and run to the basthroom and look into the mirror. You will see the problem. Americans want everything and do not want to pay for anything and then they blame the politicans for not telling them the truth. There is absolutely no integrity within our society. Tell them anything and then smile because they are too stupid, uneducated and ill informed to come to the right decision on any matter. People believe so many wacky things that it seems hopeless to me. Why should I keep worring about my fellow man whenthey keep voting against their own self interest and keep supporting these old white males who keep hogging more and more of the pie and they keep shoving more and more into the pig pen with promises if you give them some more they will share it to the meserable fools who keep feeding them. Just keep listening to the evening news, Fox "News," CNN, Rush Limbaugh, and all those others who are told by other rich men what to tell the uneducated, unwashed, and unshavened what to think. If you thought George W. Bush was bad you have not seen anything yet. If Mitt Romney is elected he will attack Iran. I guarantee that. The military budget will go through the roof and the deficit will be so huge you will not know what hit you. I suggest that all you folks out there honker down for a wild ride.
 
 
+5 # Corvette-Bob 2012-10-11 13:29
I hope Biden speaks as clearly and as strongly as Robert Reich does. I am not sure how much effect that these debates between VPs will matter but I agree that Biden needs to just harp and harp on Ryan's budget and what it does to the middle class. Call Ryan out and say out even the Bishops and Nuns form the Catholic Church say that his budget is immoral and violates the teachings of the church. Say it over and over again and do not stop saying it. Go JOE BIDEn and please do not be easy on Ryan.
 
 
+4 # tgemberl 2012-10-11 13:38
The only thing I object to in this article is this statement, which I think is unnecessarily insulting: "Mitt Romney is a robot who will say and do whatever he's programmed to do. Ryan is the robot's brain." I assume Romney has to have a good brain to put in the debate performance he put in. He's just using his brain for deceptive purposes. In fact, he probably has a better brain than Ryan's, because I doubt he really believes in all the Tea Party nonsense.
 
 
-2 # brux 2012-10-11 15:56
I wonder if Romney picked Ryan precisely because he does not intend to follow his budget, which I think even he can see is ridiculous. Romney's a pragmatist, and clever to use the latest thinking and techniques in marketing.

He passed Romney care and has disavowed it, and now just about convinced Republicans that he means it, what if he doesn't? What if he really is lying equally to both sides and is more or less of a moderate like Obama turned out to be when he got elected?

I'm just posing the question on the off chance that Romney may not be what he seems ... Obama certainly was not?
 
 
+5 # hammermann 2012-10-11 16:03
Jumpin Joe has long been a fave with me cause he isn't a plastic ahole politician with a permanent filter to screen every word- he actually tells the truth (like Dean) and answers questions so is always fresh and surprising. The imbecilic press, instead of being appreciative, spins it into reckless, foot-in-mouth, off-script behavior that shows their contempt for honesty and deep cynicism. They'd prefer to be lied to. Go Joe- rip this vicious nerd class-warrior another hole.
 
 
-1 # brux 2012-10-11 16:24
"Jumpin' Joe" from DELAWARE, where many of America's corporations incorporate for tax dodging reasons may not be plastic but figuratively he is hardly flesh and blood. He represents corporations though it is not well known or understood by people. Just like Chris Dodd was the tool of the financial industry. None of these guys just run for office because they saw Jimmy Stewart in a film, they have powerful backers behind them that want something. I am sure it's the same with Biden.
 
 
+2 # jtatu 2012-10-12 06:59
If you think businesses incorporate in Delaware "for tax dodging reasons," you really don't know much.
 
 
+2 # Nell H 2012-10-12 12:40
Obamacare has forced insurance companies to hold their administrative costs to 20% of policy cost by requiring rebates.

So, if we use vouchers to buy our health insurance we can assume that 20% of the voucher will go to the insurance company to pay for administration, advertising, etc. Medicare administration is 3%.

That means that 17% of the voucher pays administrative costs instead of medical needs. Isn't it stupid to suggest vouchers? Or, does Ryan have stock in the insurance companies?
 

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