Greenwald writes: "Wednesday night's debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney underscored a core truth about America's presidential election season."
Mitt Romney and Barack Obama participate in the first presidential debate at the University of Denver. (photo: Charlie Neibergall/AP)
The US Presidential Debates' Illusion of Political Choice
07 October 12
ednesday night's debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney underscored a core truth about America's presidential election season: the vast majority of the most consequential policy questions are completely excluded from the process. This fact is squarely at odds with a primary claim made about the two parties – that they represent radically different political philosophies – and illustrates how narrow the range of acceptable mainstream political debate is in the country.
In part this is because presidential elections are now conducted almost entirely like a tawdry TV reality show. Personality quirks and trivialities about the candidates dominate coverage, and voter choices, leaving little room for substantive debates.
But in larger part, this exclusion is due to the fact that, despite frequent complaints that America is plagued by a lack of bipartisanship, the two major party candidates are in full-scale agreement on many of the nation's most pressing political issues. As a result these are virtually ignored, drowned out by a handful of disputes that the parties relentlessly exploit to galvanise their support base and heighten fear of the other side.
Most of what matters in American political life is nowhere to be found in its national election debates. Penal policies vividly illustrate this point. America imprisons more of its citizens than any other nation on earth by far, including countries with far greater populations. As the New York Times reported in April 2008: "The United States has less than 5% of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners."
Professor Glenn Loury of Brown University has observed that these policies have turned the US into "a nation of jailers" whose "prison system has grown into a leviathan unmatched in human history". The New Yorker's Adam Gopnik called this mass incarceration "perhaps the fundamental fact [of American society], as slavery was the fundamental fact of 1850".
Even worse, these policies are applied, and arguably designed, with mass racial disparities. One in every four African-American men is likely to be imprisoned. Black and Latino drug users are arrested, prosecuted and imprisoned at far higher rates than whites, even though usage among all groups is relatively equal.
The human cost of this sprawling penal state is obviously horrific: families are broken up, communities are decimated, and those jailed are rendered all but unemployable upon release. But the financial costs are just as devastating. California now spends more on its prison system than it does on higher education, a warped trend repeated around the country.
Yet none of these issues will even be mentioned, let alone debated, by Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. That is because they have no discernible differences when it comes to any of the underlying policies, including America's relentless fixation on treating drug usage as a criminal, rather than health, problem. The oppressive system that now imprisons 1.8 million Americans, and that will imprison millions more over their lifetime, is therefore completely ignored during the only process when most Americans are politically engaged.
This same dynamic repeats itself in other crucial realms. President Obama's dramatically escalated drone attacks in numerous countries have generated massive anger in the Muslim world, continuously kill civilians, and are of dubious legality at best. His claimed right to target even American citizens for extrajudicial assassinations, without a whiff of transparency or oversight, is as radical a power as any seized by George Bush and Dick Cheney.
Yet Americans whose political perceptions are shaped by attentiveness to the presidential campaign would hardly know that such radical and consequential policies even exist. That is because here too there is absolute consensus between the two parties.
A long list of highly debatable and profoundly significant policies will be similarly excluded due to bipartisan agreement. The list includes a rapidly growing domestic surveillance state that now monitors and records even the most innocuous activities of all Americans; job-killing free trade agreements; climate change policies; and the Obama justice department's refusal to prosecute the Wall Street criminals who precipitated the 2008 financial crisis.
On still other vital issues, such as America's steadfastly loyal support for Israel and its belligerence towards Iran, the two candidates will do little other than compete over who is most aggressively embracing the same absolutist position. And this is all independent of the fact that even on the issues that are the subject of debate attention, such as healthcare policy and entitlement "reform", all but the most centrist positions are off limits.
The harm from this process is not merely the loss of what could be a valuable opportunity to engage in a real national debate. Worse, it is propagandistic: by emphasising the few issues on which there is real disagreement between the parties, the election process ends up sustaining the appearance that there is far more difference between the two parties, and far more choice for citizens, than is really offered by America's political system.
One way to solve this problem would be to allow credible third-party candidates into the presidential debates and to give them more media coverage. Doing so would highlight just how similar Democrats and Republicans have become, and what little choice American voters actually have on many of the most consequential policies. That is exactly why the two major parties work so feverishly to ensure the exclusion of those candidates: it is precisely the deceitful perception of real choice that they are most eager to maintain.
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A say in actual values not just a billionth of a vote in a who's the most alpha male on display. This thing of getting representation in our government by voting for guys who do not do what they say they will anyway is not working.
Right now there is just no way to square America's role in the world against the responsibility of a government to its people. This is the penultimate compromise that needs to be made, and we are not ready to even think about that.
how about a walmart-brand cola? (probably made in china [from an exported us job], using us subsidized corn syrup made from monsanto gmo pesticide-ready corn grown on a corporate farm, that adds millions to the health care costs of this country)
We need the third-party movement to grow but we cannot if we are all afraid we'll be "throwing away our votes."
It will take a third-party candidate(or candidates) getting about 10% of the vote for the one major two-faced party to wake up and smell the impending doom it rightly deserves.
And a comment on Mitt cheating at the debates. How many of you saw the Romney slight of hand as he approached the podium? Sneaking a piece of paper from his right trouser pocket and placing it on the podium where he could read it.
It was clearly visible and not one comment from the media. Surely they are not blind. It is on Utube for all to see.
Rachel Maddow addressed the paper from Mitts pocket it was later revealed to be a tissue that he wiped his brow with later. Now you know I cant stand Mitt, but I dont want to be witch hunting if the things are already proven to be false. Unlike Mitt I wont just blatantly lie, so as much as it sickens me to defend the maggot, it was a tissue.
http://bit.ly/MRcheat
The "corporatocracy " wants a divided electorate arguing with each other so there is a reason they can excuse not doing anything.
Obama never was of the left, a liberal or progressive. He lost his passion as soon as he whipped up the people to vote for him, and I expect that perhaps he "exists" to keep the democrat's hope up. We swing back and forth which bolsters a frustration for everyone that the government is phony that the game is rigged and this is all for show anyway and Obama, or Bush or Romney just play a part to keep our eyes in one place while the "corporatocracy " does what it wants with the country and the world.
What were the political currents like during WW2-Japanese being "hauled off" and segregated from the rest of society? Now we have to fight a new war- there are those who want to destroy Democracy. The brave and courageous keep on going, never give up the fight to save the kind of Democracy that cannot be bought out by the Plutocrats, the Republicans. The cynical say, "good luck."
But hush, hush, if we tell 'them' we've done this, we may start another Occupy movement, as if regular people deserve a Government that supports them. That's my theory, and I don't think it's a good one.
We need a fighter, someone who will fight for the average American (not the $200,000 and up wage earner that Romney calls middle class). We need someone who cares about the survival of the American Dream, and that means the possibility of it's reality, not burdening the middle class and the poor with taxes and fees so that the rich can trickle down their spare change....
What they got was a president who took the entire defense department bureaucracy of a previously discredited administration into his administration inclusive of the Generals, Secretary of Defense and all the rest ( this has never happened before); then gave us more phony war. While president Obama was receiving the “Nobel Peace prize” he simultaneously and successfully defended the architect of torture in a San Francisco federal court. In addition, he sidetracked attempts of the ACLU to remove the illegal overseas prisons and never gave even a feeble attempt to close the infamous Guantanamo prison. He has never tried to return our revered habeas corpus or remove the immoral, illegal, Patriot Act. As this is written he has placed ill advised military intimidation and economic sanctions over innocent Iranian people and continues to fund the illegal Zionist settlers three generations removed from WWII, (many from New York) in the Middle East. Recently Obama signed a law (National Defense Authorization Act) making the “Patriot Act” permanent and the USA is now officially a military/police state with the habeas corpus long gone.
But the other choice is way worse.
R & R are against all these things. Obama is flawed no doubt. How much power he has over the military is not clear. But Romney, Ryan and Rove will cause death by cuts.They want emergency room health care, the poor and elderly to die in the gutter.
http://WTFU2012.com
Samuel J telling us how it is.
I do know that one party in the running has not hidden their agenda to destroy Democracy itself, while purporting to want to spread it to the world. I also know that they want to destroy every social program that gives people an even chance in life, wether it is healthcare, education or basic equality.
We the people do have a lot of work to do when we have an opportunity to make some changes, but sometimes I fear it may be too late. How do we change the mind set of people that we don't have to bomb other countries to stay strong, or that when everyone prospers, all will live better lives with less crime, less fear maybe less health problems? How do we stop the mega, monster corporatocracy from being so greedy, and our media being on the take and not present truthful news?
A choice has to be made and a protest vote is foolish, as for sure we will get the party that will set us back even further.
Like President Obama said, "we don't want to relapse."
A one round one vote system establishes a winner take all situation, thus freezing out more varied political candidacies.
Continental Europe two round system at least allows a variety of view points to emmerge. What destroys things there is the "boogey man" politic that demonizes the extremes, and guts all other parties' access by ridiculing their marginal status.
The only good vote is a "useful" vote - a vote that can win -and freeze out extremes. When people start thinking that way, everyone loses.
Political parties are about dogmatic and idealistic beliefs, but in the end there is no real choice. Read Edward bernays' "Engineering of Consent."
If you watched some of the early Republican debates you saw Ron Paul constantly bring up real issues, only to see the others totally avoid any discussion. I remember him asking the question,"if Chinese troops occupied the United States, would you be happy about it? He then went on to say that we should withdraw our troops from all of the middle eastern countries. No response from the others on stage. Apparently real issues are best discussed behind closed doors.
There would have been a huge difference, because GWB was a complete idiot, and Gor and Kerry were not. We dont need Mitt to continue Bush's idiocy in the white house. The republicans have obstructed, fillibustered, and said NO to almost any real good the president has tried to do. We need an overwhelming dem majority, with no blue dogs to get any real progress going in this country. Teabaglicans have all but ruined any progress, any good, or any recovery this country could have had by now.
OBAMA/BIDEN in 2012 with a majority of dems in the house and senate.
At a time of every close elections the majority ofn the contributors on this blog argue that every possible voter must be given the right to vote. This at a time when the Pew Research Institute has should that 9% of American voters do not know who is now President, and an total of 21% do not know who is President and which party controls the House and Senate. Since all votes are supposted to be counted equally, each party must appeal to the least knowledgeable possible voter.
The debates would look considerably different if there were awareness qualifications to vote. Maybe limit it to only those who filed income tax returns. Without voter reform, expect more and more avoidance of real options.
In the debate he looked hostile, sneering, and false.
Can anyone tell us what has caused Obama to step back from what he campaigned to do?
Introducing a third party will really confuse them.
The problem with the debate system in place is: That both parties have agreed on the questions. This should not be allowed.
Imaginary screenplay scene from TV's West Wing writer Aaron Sorkin - President Jed Bartlett reminds President Obama how to debate - VERY GOOD!
It's on the money (no pun intended). Really a fine analysis and how-to learn and push 3 simple words, next debate.
Short-url version to the article: http://bit.ly/GovLiar
If you want outrage you should have seen the Frontline piece dealing with the prison system in Louisiana. They have by far the highest rate of imprisonment of their citizens in the world, many of them for non violent crimes. Why is this ??? The reason is that they have a for profit penal system which pays the local sheriffs money for each person that they put into jail. So they are grabbing the poor bastards off of the street to send them to jail so that money will be paid to their local law enforcement agencies.
I beginning to believe that it is best to be less informed so that you can preserve your sanity.
Affordable Health Care would be repealed and the uninsured would receive health care at their local ER when seriously ill
Medicaid would be slashed substantially and the poor would receive health care at their local ER
Woman's Health Care would be slashed with the elimination of Plan Parenthood and health care would be provided at local ER
Medicare for those under 55 would be by voucher
Roe -vs- Wade would be reversed and abortions made illegal except in limited numbers in the most liberal states
Iran would be attacked resulting in a land war with a country 5 times larger and power as Iraq.
Military budge would be increased by reversing previous cuts and the additon of $ 2 trillion over 10 years.
Tax cut of 20% so that taxes for the top 1/2 would be lower than the bottom half due to social security taxes
Inheritance taxes would be eliminated resulting in greater concentration of wealth amount the rich and the elimination of foundations
Global warming would not be addressed, alternate energy gutted, polution control for coal would be eliminated
In attempt to balance budget due to war, military expenditures and tax cuts would gut social programs and "entitlements"
Huge deficits which will make us think fondly of George W. Bush
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