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Excerpt: 'Some of us thought Romney was without core or principle, an empty suit that would say anything to be elected. But here, evidently, is the real Mitt.'

Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)
Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)


The Real Mitt Revealed

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog

19 September 12

 

 

irst are the distortions. Romney says 47 percent of Americans don't pay income taxes. That's literally true, except it's misleading because it includes every retiree who hasn't enough income to pay income taxes (most retirees), every poor and lower-income person who doesn't have enough income to pay, and a few multi-millionaires (perhaps like Romney himself - we don't know because he won't release his tax returns), who don't pay because of tax loopholes and tax-avoidance schemes. Moreover, just about all working Americans, regardless of income, pay federal payroll taxes. Everyone pays state and local sales taxes. And so on. Romney also distorts reality by purposely mixing "entitlements" with "a sense of entitlement," and lumps in all recipients of Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment benefits into his 47 percent. Even though these programs are considered "entitlement" spending, their recipients are not undeserving; they don't consider themselves entitled to handouts. They've paid into these insurance plans through their payroll taxes.

But the the most important revelation here isn't Romney's witting distortions. It's his indignant condemnation of almost half the American electorate. A president is supposed to represent all of America, not just the 51 percent who elect him, and have a modicum of sympathy for the less fortunate among us.

Yet here is the real Mitt Romney - a fabulously wealthy financier, presumably speaking to other wealthy people (note the waiters scurrying about), with a passion we haven't before seen in him - saying it isn't his "job" to worry about Americans who he describes as "irresponsible," who fail to take care of themselves, and whose neediness is presumably their own fault. Some of us thought Romney was without core or principle, an empty suit that would say anything to be elected. But here, evidently, is the real Mitt - a man whose core principle is clearly on display, and articulated with deep conviction: social Darwinism - survival of the richest, the hell with those who need a helping hand. In a subsequent news conference he attempted to make it sound as if he was talking here about political strategy, not social conviction. Watch and see for yourself.

 

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+98 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-19 09:03
Exactly.

This video is disturbing because it is the real Mitt. For the first time EVER (in MA that goes way back to the 90's) we get to hear the CEO/Governor talk from the heart. This is the "severe" Conservative he mentioned earlier in the campaign. This is the guy who said to an NAACP audience, that if they knew what was in his heart they would vote for him. And perhaps, to some degree he is right on that last point. There are people of all races, economic strata, and cultural identity that actually agree with Romney's view of the 47% that don't pay taxes. Stupid is not just restricted to White males that have titles like CEO and Executive Vice President, although sometimes it seems that they are trying to monopolize stupidity along with everything else.

Its that stupidity that more than anything else demonstrates why being a CEO does not automatically qualify one to be President. But on the scary side, now that the population of stupid that is not a White male business executive knows what is Romney's heart, what makes the pundit class think that they won't vote for him? I actually think there will be a lot, not a majority but probably about 25% of the persons in that 47% who, in their stupidity didn't like Mitt and were planning on sitting out because he is probably a Liberal Republican that will now vote for him. I mean, why should they stop voting against their own interests now, they have been doing it since Reagan.
 
 
+33 # popeye47 2012-09-19 17:35
There used to be a series on tv back in the 1960's. It was called,"What's my Line". If Romney was on that show, they would guess his profession. That profession would be a CON MAN.
 
 
+72 # LeeBlack 2012-09-19 09:43
Mitt says those 47% will never vote for him - that can be interpreted to mean those are the 47% he doesn't care about. He certainly doesn't understand the lives of those 47%.
 
 
+146 # walthe310 2012-09-19 09:51
Mitt doesn't care, and I don't care about Mitt. I am a proud member of the 99% and the 47%. I began working at age 20 and I worked for 50 years until age 70. During those years I paid Federal income tax each and every year, and I probably paid that tax at a higher rate most years than Mitt paid in 2010. I paid Social Security tax to the maximum each year until the maximum was raised higher than my income and I paid Medicare every year that Medicare withholding was in force. Now I don't pay Federal income tax because my wife and I are living on two very small pensions that are not indexed for inflation and Social Security which is not indexed adequately for inflation. I am part of the 47% and I will vote to re-elect President Obama because he is and will be the better President.
 
 
+16 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 21:23
Nice comment.
 
 
+88 # Jesse666 2012-09-19 10:05
Many of those people who Romney insulted are Republican right wing nuts who vote anti-abortion and anti-gay. They are very poor, ignorant, on welfare and hate liberals.
 
 
+21 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 21:24
Well, they will reap what they sow if he wins. Unfortunately, we will also reap what they sow.
 
 
+132 # Barbara K 2012-09-19 10:06
Well, we finally got to see the real Mitt and it is not a pretty picture. He's selfish, greedy, a liar, thinks we have no right to a roof over our heads, food on our tables, or health insurance. It is obvious that he'd be happy to see us just die in the streets. I have never seen such a gutless, disgusting, hateful person running for office. Not Presidential material at all. Wants to just "forget about that 47%". That is not what a real president does. He refers us as "Those People", his wife refers to us as "You People". They don't relate to us. Well, "This People" is not voting for "That One", the empty suit.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 for the 100% of us.
 
 
+54 # doneasley 2012-09-19 16:21
Quoting Barbara K:
Well, we finally got to see the real Mitt and it is not a pretty picture... He refers (to) us as "Those People", his wife refers to us as "You People". They don't relate to us. Well, "This People" is not voting for "That One", the empty suit.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 for the 100% of us.


As usual, Barb, you hit the nail on the head. Mitt and Ann live in an Ivory Tower and would condescend to speak with us only out of necessity - they need us to VOTE for Mitt. And all the while Mitt is telling his wealthy friends that we are the scum of the earth always looking for a handout. Now Mitt - who was born with a silver spoon up his rectum - and his wife Ann "it's our turn now" Romney, think they're going to waltz into the White House without scrutiny - or better yet astride Rafalca, the wonder horse. I call him the "wonder horse" because I WONDER how Mitt took a $77,000 deduction on Rafalca - more than most Americans make in a year!

Well, WE PEOPLE" aren't gonna vote for you Mitt.
 
 
+8 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 21:25
Oh good response.
 
 
+101 # flippancy 2012-09-19 10:14
Mitt Romney is proof that George W Bush wasn't the dumbest and most disgusting person to run on a major party ticket in American history.
 
 
+68 # noitall 2012-09-19 13:44
Quoting flippancy:
Mitt Romney is proof that George W Bush wasn't the dumbest and most disgusting person to run on a major party ticket in American history.

And I thought that Reagan was hilarious and then they topped that with George Sr. and his sad pick for Veep; and then it was Geo. W, say no more and his sicko, Cheney; and then they throw McCain and, hold onto it, Sarah Palin! I think its the rich digging for the lowest common denominator because they are so out of touch with reality that they think that these people are what Americans think is appealing...go figure.
 
 
+31 # Regina 2012-09-19 16:04
The string-pullers behind the curtain have stated that all they want is an automaton who can, and will, sign his name wherever they tell him to. Hail to the Stooge-in-Chief ! Now go vote for Obama, the candidate with relevant experience for the real job of POTUS.
 
 
+23 # Dumbledorf 2012-09-19 10:18
Here's a short 15 second youtube clip that says almost everything you would ever care to know about Romney. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4AqWqC6poM&feature=youtu.be

P.S. Romney also supports the NDAA as it relates to indefinite detention of US Citizens! He doesn't know anything about Due Process our Constitution or Bill of Rights. And to be fair, neither does Obama.....
 
 
-47 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:09
Personally Terrorists do not deserve due process. Our giving them our rights is why they scorn us.
 
 
+36 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 17:57
Everybody is a terrorist when there is no due process. The mere accusation of terrorism would be enough. We used to do this to witches. If we can't PROVE it, we have no moral authority. That's what due process is for. It's not a "special" right. It's the only way to prove the accusations are true.
 
 
+6 # rockieball 2012-09-20 06:03
What does this article have to do with due process? It surprises me anyway that unless a person makes a million plus a year Romney don't give a dam about them. Yet they still shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to their lives and support him?
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 21:57
Obama knows, he was a Con Law professor. He is just looking the other way demonstrating the flexibility of his ethics. We all do it but with lesser consequences.

I have to admit being ambivalent about concern for people who are constantly trying to blow us up here and who kill young Americans there who are training them. I am an unabashed liberal but one who would have pulled the plug on Charles Manson and Jeffery Dahmer in a heart beat.

As for drones, that is a hard one. We are hurting people who have been savaged by the Taliban and 10 years of war. But we have lost enough lives in a senselessly drawn out war. What we need to do is get the hell out of Dodge and quit hemorrhaging lives and money.

It's just like Viet Nam. Fighting a war with our hands tied behind our backs. Rule of thumb: Don't go to war if you won't fight and, if you do go, fight tooth and toenail or get out.

After Viet Nam, I am very anti-war and certainly do not approve of the U.S. engaging in preemptive wars based upon false information. Afghanistan, because of Bin Laden, was at least a response to lethal aggression in our own homeland. So I can understand it. What I don't understand is staying there.

I don't even remember what respite from strife looked like? Everywhere we turn we are embroiled in one problem or another.
 
 
+58 # redrider 2012-09-19 10:21
How does this message get out through the mainstream media to the independents and even moderate Republicans? It seems an awful lot of people view and update their Facebook page but don't do a whole lot reading or watching the news. I don't think there are enough subscribers to Rolling Stone magazine who will read the stories of Bain where they basically sacked and pillaged Kay-Bee Toys out of 120 million and then fired everyone and went into bankruptcy. I'm all for capitalism but if this what you call capitalism, then I'd rather be a socialist.
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 21:59
Me too.
 
 
+20 # stonecutter 2012-09-19 10:29
At times, one wishes professional pundits and bloggers like Reich would get down in the trenches with the rest of us and call a greedy, rich asshole a greedy, rich asshole. If we have to settle for social Darwinist, so be it. Whatever the politeness quotient, the fact remains that Romney was more cogent, articulate and forceful on this clandestine video than he's been in 7 years of public comment running for president during two campaigns. Could it be that this time he was actually expressing his own authentic, sincere point of view? DOH!
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:12
Journalists have to write with Legalities in mind. You can go slander who you want...and you can be sued.
Journalists do not care about being sued but the Rags they write for do... It is not appropriate to name call when we all can read between the lines, not?
 
 
+43 # HowardMH 2012-09-19 11:06
That is just a small example of the attitude of ALL of those on Wall Street, Big Business and the other super rich.

Wonder how long it will take the Lemmings to figure it out. Oh, thats right they are Lemmings -- so most of them will never figure it out.
 
 
+41 # marjb 2012-09-19 11:08
I am quite surprised that media outlets - who are falling all over themselves to describe "the 47%" have missed the obvious. Mitt Romney has said that he isn't goint to "worry about them." He MAY have meant worry about getting their votes. But it's distubing that he's willing to write off almost half of the population of the United States during this election cycle. Doesn't that mean that he also won't be worrying about them AFTER the election?
 
 
+12 # Jorge 2012-09-19 21:33
Exactly, Willard the Rat does not care about the non-wealthy. Like the Pizza King Candidate, Willard believes that if you are unemployed or poor you should blame yourself. God must want you to be poor. Same old Sociopath Bully as when he was in High School; another Dick Cheney.
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:00
Like he ever has? Why would he start once elected?
 
 
+37 # David Starr 2012-09-19 11:14
Romney claims that, "...it isn't his 'job' to worry about Americans who he describes as 'irresponsible, ' who fail to take care of themselves, and whose neediness is presumably their own fault.

It's Romney's "responsibility " to worry about his fellow "vultures;" those who's "rights" are being "violated" because of a lot of "freeloaders" having the nerve to get access to necessary assistance to help them in a situation where "fate" has had a negative impact.

It's Romney's "responsibility " to make sure that his fellow elites can have the "right" to be grossly irresponsible with their monetary power, continue the rich-poor divide, while sounding "responsible."

BTW, charities have been of course helpful but many of the recipients become a stereotype of the "perpetual, helpless poor," precisely because of a system that "needs" poverty in order to allow a few to profiteer any way they can. The economic "pie" is divided with the "successful" getting the most slices. Thus, not much left for many, and the inevitable class conflicts.

Charity has worked, but we need change, not charity, where there are no more "poverty stereotypes."
 
 
+9 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:05
Kudos to you for your comments.

Here's a factoid that blows the mind: AIG, a shockingly irresponsibile corporation that was in good company, got loan guarantees from the government that equate to 2% of GDP.

So to OCD compulsive gambling plutocrats, I say, "Can the crap about irresponsibilit y, you are the poster child for it."
 
 
+2 # David Starr 2012-09-20 08:03
@ghostperson:

Quoting: "Can the crap about irresponsibilit y, you are the poster child for it." Exactly.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2012-09-21 13:02
The Treasury Department announced it planned to sell $18 billion of its A.I.G. stake, putting it on a path to actually turn a profit. It was a remarkable feat and one that nobody — including Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner — anticipated four years ago at the peak of the crisis during the $180 billion bailout of the company.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2012-09-21 13:12
So we might as well include all those farmers taking money for not doing anything....Far m Subsidies which 23 of the tea-bags in congress collect $100k a year.
 
 
+23 # cbascom 2012-09-19 11:18
I pity Americans faced with an election where the lies from the Mitt Romney camp are so commonplace that moments of honesty however unintended are seized upon by republicans as a clear position. Clear? CLEAR ???????
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:08
Even Putin said, "at least he's direct." What the hell else could he say? At last we saw a moment of truthfulness but it was the equivalent of Romney throwing urine in his own face.
 
 
+56 # ALinSTL 2012-09-19 11:22
WHAT'S FUNNY IS HOW HIS WIFE LIES ABOUT BEING A "STAY-AT-HOME" MOM. THEIR TAX RECORDS SHOWS THEY PAID 5 MAIDS A TOTAL OF $20,000+ LAST YEAR...NOT $20K EACH,BUT $20K + TOTAL...HOW MANY STAY-AT-HOME MOMS DO YOU KNOW THAT HAVE 5 UNDERPAID MAIDS?!?!?!!?
AND SINCE HE'S A MORMON BISHOP HE TAKES ORDERS FROM MEN(NOT WOMEN) HIGHER UPS IN THE MORMON CHURCH...SO THEY'LL BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY & NOT HIM, IF ELECTED. RIGHT?!?!!?! CAN YOU ENVISION A USA RUN BY THE MORMON CHURCH?????
 
 
+9 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:14
NOPE on any Religion think we saw that in past...they are just as whacky as the Political Nazis
 
 
+11 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:39
You are absolutely correct about who will be pulling the strings. Navy Seals are probably not as regimented as the Joseph Smith brigade. This a group that makes gods out of mortal men.

Ever wonder why Romney acts and speaks like the Manchurian Candidate in public? He is.

And if you are not whitesome and delightful, watch out.

If the head of my church has an idea, it is just that. If the president of Romney's church has one, it is a "revelation." Really convenient ones. Like when their non-profit tax exemption was at stake due to discriminatory practices, voila, a revelation. Dark- skinned people (who were deemed to have the Christian equivalent of the mark of Cain) could come into the temple. Getting in was was one thing; acceptance, another.

If you are female, whoa. I won't even go there.

At times, I get tend think of Romney's "religion" the same way I think of Scientology, as a cults of the cosmos. Their creation stories are "interesting."

I don't really care what other people believe spiritually, I just don't want their beliefs interfering with or intruding into my life. Others' religious rights stop at the end of my nose. I take a particularly dim view of men in dresses, with a penchant for pedophilia, demanding trans-vaginal probes into female orifices when the a female insists upon autonomy over her person. But hey, just call me an out of touch liberal.
 
 
+11 # brux 2012-09-19 11:25
How is it that we have so many Republicans that
support this kind of statement.

I think it is not that they really support Romney,
but because of the equal excesses of the other
side, the type of Democrats who go so far they
alienate the moderates.

Someone has a good game going here, maybe it's
the media, maybe the right wing, but someone
creates social programs that don't work, keeps
them from working, and then blames the government
that they manipulate for them not working.

The bottom line is that we must create a set of
human values that applies to every citizens, maybe
every human being, and move forward from there.
It is great to be rich, but when one gets to be rich
to them stomp on other people from your high
powerful vantage point is a crime.
 
 
+8 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:48
Please name the Democrats who are equivalent of the far, far, anti-education, anti-science, anti-human dignity, right wing?

I hear this all the time, I must not be watching or reading the right stuff because I in fact look to see who they are talking about.

One Republican said, Bernie Sanders, because he is a "socialist" apparently for believing in the common good. I replied that on the scale from communism to res publica there is such a thing as the golden rule. Belief in it doesn't make one a socialist.

I am tired of the fog of absurdity that attaches to public discourse and becomes a barrier to reason.
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2012-09-21 13:07
GHOSTPERSON.... I absolutely agree with you. When I complain to my republican friends about the vitrolic e-mails I get from republicans, they keep telling me that there are the same kind of e-mails coming out of the far left. I've asked them to please forward these e-mnails to me. That was over 6 years ago.....I'm still waiting.
 
 
+56 # fishmother 2012-09-19 11:41
There are a few things that Romney and his pals fail to realize. One is that Social Security is not welfare. I have paid into it since I took my very first job when I was young and therefore am entitled to it; hence the second thing they fail to realize is that I am indeed “entitled” to collecting Social Security at the other end. The third thing is that if we had gone with GWB’s private accounts, my medical care would depend on the stock market, so I am indeed grateful that his inane idea never came to fruition and that I am able to have a leg injury treated because Obama’s plan covers me. I would hope that my children can count on the same safety net. Now a word about the word entitled; Romney and his fat cat pals in & out of politics thinks their money entitles them to look down on we the people, who were not born to wealth or make money by disenfranchisin g workers a la Romney style, which he executed at Bain by firing workers to make up for his failed policies, which he overlooks when he brags about his business acumen.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:19
Whether the
Government likes it or not as long as you paid taxes, you also paid for Welfare as well as the Political Cretins Salaries
For those who do not make a Career out of Welfare, I have no qualms with people getting back on their feet. I was on welfare. Having made that a week it was a lowering of my esteem. Carter put a Workshop Programs across the USA and many of us opted for it as it was twice as much to learn to work at a new skill.
Republican threw it out, said we will train on your time not our dime.

I would love to see everyone, esp Media having to grovel. I think it is time people see what the Lord said about stepping into those shoes.
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2012-09-21 13:09
Mitt's father when he frist came to the US from Mexico was an immigrant on welfare. Thus making him that "other" 47%. I guess he wouldn't have voted for his own son.
 
 
+42 # Shirley in Berkeley 2012-09-19 11:42
I agreed with all of this until the next to last sentence, when I hit ". . . who need a helping hand." Do not label Social Security recipients as poor unfortunates who need a helping hand. We paid Social Security taxes for all of our working lives and now we expect to get it back as promised.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:21
You also pay for welfare and all the Agencies who get jobs as a thanks fro Politicians
No shame in Welfare or SSI or SSD we all deserve help Those who are allowed to make a career should be shown the door but again no one wants to clean up the system cause then they would have to clean up theirs
 
 
+35 # Trouper 2012-09-19 11:45
SO Great that this Political Hyena was outed by President Carter's Grandson…. Such poetic justice….. I'm so happy….. The God from Planet Kolob who wishes to rule over the Democracy of the United States and turn it into a Theocracy is melting before our Eyes…..
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:51
Nice touch.
 
 
+22 # Fairlady 2012-09-19 11:49
The real Mitt revealed!
 
 
+35 # Citizen Mike 2012-09-19 11:52
Do we remember THE FOUR FREEEDOMS which were celebrated in a lovely series of Norman Rockwell drawings? FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM FROM WANT and FREEDOM FROM FEAR!

Americans have long believed that all citizens were entitled to these freedoms. Romney and his cohorts support the first two but deny the last two. The government services, such as Food Stamps and Medicare, which he denounces, are the ones intended to save us from WANT and FEAR.

This is what GOOD GOVERNMENT provides, this is what all citizens are entitled to, and this has long been firmly believed by most Americans. It is nonsense to talk about "BIG GOVERNMENT" or "SMALL GOVERNMENT," what we should desire is GOOD GOVERNMENT that TAXES FAIRLY and SPENDS WISELY and PROTECTS ALL ITS CITIZENS FROM UNEXPECTED DISASTER! That means adequate nutrition, secure housing, public education, affordable healthcare.

If we are denied these entitlements, then WE BECOME VICTIMS of unrestrained greed and the nonsense of the right wing's heartless and cruel social darwinism.
 
 
+22 # Rainphase 2012-09-19 13:34
They're also pretty happy to crack down on freedom of speech if you're a protester with Occupy or at one of their conventions or rallies
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 22:55
That is something isn't it. A right wing man wears a loaded gun to an Obama speech, no problem, but passive students sitting on a sidewalk are viciously pepper sprayed directly into their faces at close range, and they are jailed.
 
 
+49 # ABen 2012-09-19 12:00
Romney looks and sounds like a character out of "The Great Gatsby." This well polished, platinum-plated con man has no clue how the vast majority of Americans live their lives and pursue their dreams. I ran my own business for 19 years and then taught for another 20 before retiring, and he has the gall to label me and millions like me a social parasite. He can stuff that where the sun doesn't shine!! Anyone who thinks this phoney is presidential material probably also believes in the Tooth fairy and that Jesus Christ was a white man who spoke English.
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:23
I personally thought he was talking about the parasites of the one percent...but then I really do not listen to Mitt as he has been lying for decades.
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:10
I don't think he lies. Rather, he lives in an intellectual, social and religious bubble where there are no contrary opinions. He is quite confident in his beliefs because he knows and accepts no other. He is right everyone else is wrong. Pride is deemed the most egregious of all mortal sins because it is the one from which all others flow
 
 
+6 # stonecutter 2012-09-19 16:40
@ ABen

LOVE the last sentence in your post! LMAO! Sorry, but that place where the sun don't shine is already full to overflowing.
Beautiful.
 
 
+5 # vitobonespur 2012-09-19 17:26
Where do you think he gets his "facts and figures" from?
 
 
+8 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:06
Funny.

My mom worked from age 17 until age 83 and Romney labeled her irresponsible because she had the temerity to collect Social Security. Hell, even God rested. What was she supposed to do keep on trucking till until she dropped dead from old age?

To me it isn't just the belief system that the non-wealthy are lazy, good for nothing losers, it is also that they are so far out of touch with the basic realities of ordinary peoples' lives that they are frightening. On social issues, Todd Akin is Exhibit A. On financial issues, Romney is Exhibit B.

Discredited voo doo economics over three decades coupled with "unregulation" is what got us into this mess. The answer to snake bite is not more venom.
 
 
+16 # Kiwikid 2012-09-19 12:03
"Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks"
 
 
+31 # NanFan 2012-09-19 12:09
He's still an empty suit, but he's a pariah of the worst kind: he hates the common, hardworking, and perhaps, too-poor-to-mak e-ends-meet American.

He will EVISCERATE the country! And he will do it with the phony smile on his too-tanned face, without a care for America or his health or its people.

Sick, sick, sick!

N.
 
 
+10 # Phlippinout 2012-09-19 13:55
When i saw him speak this morning I said to myself "look at that fake tan!" Glad someone else saw it too.
 
 
+16 # cordleycoit 2012-09-19 12:10
Sort of like Wilde, Oscar's "Portrait of Dorian Gray." They are all like that corrupt liars, Cons and grifters. An evil Emperor for an evil Empire.
 
 
+35 # boudreaux 2012-09-19 12:13
I still cannot believe that some people want him to represent and lead this country and personally I don't want him to either represent me or lead me into a worse place to live. I'll stick with Obama.
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:23
They don't want him; conservatives don't even like him. They don't care who it is so long as it is not Obama.

I simply do not understand visceral hatred at that level. I didn't like Bush's policies and transferred that dislike to him I later realized. But I did not hate him. I despised his policies which are Romney's policies.

But Romney is really getting to me with his silver hoof and mouth disease. Does this man know how to do anything but insult people and countries. Where is his judgment edit button?

How is it possible for a person to achieve success at that level and be a verbal fool in public. He wasn't this way when he spoke after being named to head up the Salt Lake City olympic games. He was a silver-tongued, quick witted, reflective orator. The only explanation is that there has been an invasion of the body snatchers. Even keeping him on a short leash couldn't cause a skilled orator to develop political Tourette's syndrome.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2012-09-21 13:16
Those people who are going to vote for romney are people that want the neo-con puppet masters to tell them what to do because then they don't have to take any responsibility. They just mouth what they're told to.
 
 
+33 # bmiluski 2012-09-19 12:14
So what does he consider the tea-bags in congress who get farm subsidies. That, in my book, is a hand-out or in other words...entitle ment.
 
 
+16 # bluesapphire48 2012-09-19 15:26
I have been thinking the same thing. And there is a lot of money for a few big agribusiness corporations in farm subsidies. It is basically the dole, and whatever happened to all those missing millions and billions in Iraq?
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:32
You mean the $9 billion "in cash" shrink wrapped to pallets, all 24 planeloads of it?

What the hell was anyone doing with $9 billion dollars in cash in a country that doesn't have banks as we know them?

Only two possible answers: payola and bribe money, or grand theft planeloads.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:25
That should not be an entitlement. There is no excuse for all their write offs And for letting land lie when their are Americans who need food. Criminals for sure
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:35
Farm subsidies had a purpose when they started out just like oil and gas and railroad subsidies did. But those days have long past but the program lives on. Big Agri corporations don't need public subsidies. Have I just said they are "irresponsible? " My gosh, I lapsed into Romneyspeak.
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:28
I wouldn't even feel so bad if the subsidies were going to real farmers. But they predominantly go to Big Agriculture. A concern of mine is that since we have stopped manufacturing anything but hot air, these fools might also stop producing food domestically which means that we not only can't make or fix anything, we won't have anything to eat and that is overlooking the fact that the world's seed stock is mostly all genetically altered with the same stuff that produces agent orange. God, we are up a tree aren't we.
 
 
+39 # vicnada 2012-09-19 12:18
What has happened to our democracy when someone with such utter contempt for humanity can even be nominated for the highest office in the land?
 
 
+7 # bluesapphire48 2012-09-19 15:27
Vicnada, I hate to break it to you, but we haven't had a democracy in this country for quite some time.
 
 
+5 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:51
Somewhere along the line, we became a nation of sheep. I didn't even see it was happening. I would really like to pinpoint when it occurred. Now, we are just caught up in a maelstrom that we have no chance of controlling.

I am going to take a stab here: In ancient Rome, the emperor de jour would hold spectacles to dazzle the population into blindness about the wretched conditions around them. Corporate media, offers incessant low and lowest brow entertainment and constant flapping- mouth distortion and propaganda. Contemporaneous ly, religious fundamentalists and economic Darwinists made it a sin to be educated or to think original thoughts while returning us to a 4000-year old world that was flat. People were to busy working 2 and 3 jobs to notice. When they did, the zealots had framed the debate in a way that pushed the center so far to the right that there really is no true left in existence, contrary to wing-nut assertions. It got so bad that people had to tune out to save their sanity. So here we stand.
 
 
+19 # HerbR 2012-09-19 12:30
WE knew all of that, of course. Now everybody can know also, from the horse's mouth
HerbR
 
 
+15 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-19 12:44
That was his mouth? Look again, I think Mitt is standing backwards.
 
 
+22 # panhead49 2012-09-19 12:36
That's the glory of people like Mittens - they can't even see we poor little working folk as we scurry about serving their needs - and recording their words.

I'd hate to be the poor shmuck that failed to keep Mittens supply of Just For Men fully stocked and easily in reach.
 
 
+19 # Atia 2012-09-19 12:39
You will have to pay federal taxes on your Social Security benefits if you file a federal tax return as an individual and your total income is more than $25,000. If you file a joint return, you will have to pay taxes if you and your spouse have a total income of more than $32,000.
 
 
+20 # natalierosen 2012-09-19 12:44
99% of human being in this nation should vote their interests and HE is not their interest.

He's going down the question is now by how much.
 
 
+41 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 13:22
To:

all citizens over 65,
all citizens who pay into Social Security,
all citizens who pay renter's taxes,
all citizens who pay utility taxes,
all citizens who pay sales tax,
all citizens who work for government contractors,
all citizens who send their kids to public schools,
all citizens who get federal student loans,
all citizens who who rely on Medicaid or Medicare,
all citizens who paid for college with the G.I. Bill,
all citizens who use V.A. hospitals,
all citizens who rely on safe food and safe drinking water,
all citizens who don't make enough to buy a dresage horse and deduct it.

Twit Romney DOES NOT WANT YOUR VOTE!
 
 
+14 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 14:25
I should also add, ALL citizens who use the Earned Income Tax Credit.
 
 
+21 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 13:26
I think it's pretty ironic... no... not ironic... what's that word? Oh yeah, "predictable", that the upper class twit would complain about OTHER people not paying anything in taxes.

That's what I refer to as "C O M E D Y"!

Hey Twittens!!!

When you show us YOUR tax returns you can talk trash about 47% of us. Until then, you're making a fool out of yourself.
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 23:54
How 'bout hypocritical?
 
 
+19 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 13:31
I'd like to ask the repug posters which hard-right conservative they think would have a better chance of being elected than upper-class-Twit?

Let's face it, he'll lose, you'll complain about how much he didn't represent "your" particular values, you'll blame everyone else for the loss....

When will you come to terms with the fact that ANY hard-right conservative you could have picked would have done just as poorly?

When will you admit that the only reason for making it harder to vote (coincidentally in all the swing states) is because you know democracy is the biggest enemy you face?
 
 
+22 # Susan1989 2012-09-19 13:35
This is an evil and cruel man. I met him a decade ago and could feel terrible energy coming from his every pore...arrogant , distant, superior...in a strange other worldly way. I never forgot him...and then I didn't know who he was.
 
 
+12 # bluesapphire48 2012-09-19 15:29
He sounds like what the fundies call The Antichrist.
 
 
+22 # cherylpetro 2012-09-19 13:47
Romney and the Republicans ONLY care that people have money; they don't care HOW they got it! If you get it by unethical means, ALL THE BETTER! You didn't get caught! Grabbing money from the victim is fine; the victim was a jerk for "letting" it happen to him! That IS Social Darwinism! The Mafia knew a lot about that!
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-09-20 00:19
I moved to Louisiana when Edwin Edwards, or Eddie as he was universally referred to, was being indicted for the umpteenth time for whatever. I actually found him refreshing because he never said that he wasn't a crook. When asked on his second indictment whether it would interfere with him being re-elected, Edwards replied that the only way he wouldn't be re-elected is if they caught him in bed with a dead woman or a live boy. Edwards was not a hypocrit.

I have had my fill of "holier than thou art" poseurs. Tell me straight up what you are doing and we can rumble but get the hell out from behind my back.

If Romney had made a full frontal speech saying the same things, the voters could have made a personal judgment about voting for or against him based upon agreement or disagreement with his views.

But what he did is like a co-worker who is sweetness and light to your face but stabs you in the back when you turn away. Romney obviously doesn't have the courage of his convictions except as a political stunt.

It was very obvious when he spoke to the NAACP that he delivered a much practiced "in your face" line, intended to rile the Black audience for the amusement of his far-right southern base. He actually stepped back slightly, straightened his back and waited for the response, with the tiniest self-satisfied smile at the corners of his mouth. Romney went to bait them for his base.
 
 
+19 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 13:51
Also, if you take Twit's comment at face value (disregarding the fact that he's either lying or completely ignorant about who the 47% actually are), he's saying that unless you're upper class you SHOULDN'T vote for him. He's saying that all of the rich WILL automatically vote for him and that all of the poor and half of the middle-class SHOULDN'T BOTHER voting for him.

TWIT SHOULD BE President of the CAYMAN ISLANDS!

-----------

VOTE ROMNEY for President of the Cayman Islands! That could be his new campaign slogan.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:29
They do not want him just his money
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-09-19 17:59
They're one and the same.
 
 
+4 # Regina 2012-09-19 21:34
Keep in mind the fact that Romney defines middle class as those earning $200,000 - $250,000 a year. Obviously upper class requires millions, at least. The 47% he snobbily disdains must therefore be the servant class, hired, fired, and sneered at in between, used and tossed. Since he literally reigns in the Cayman Islands, he'd be King, not merely President.
 
 
+7 # davidh7426 2012-09-19 14:07
Perhaps somebody should take Mitt 'mittens' Romney & the rest of the 1% to one side & explain in very simple words ( short ones preferably ) that the more you push people the more likely they are to push back, and that the odds are not good for their survival should the people decide to revolt, which if mittens is elected would be almost guaranteed to happen.

If they do the outcome WILL be swift, brutal & VERY UGLY for the 1% & will make the first civil war look like a school yard fight

Please, please DON'T elect mittens.
 
 
+10 # NAVYVET 2012-09-19 15:14
We are now hearing "Mitt mit der mitts off."
 
 
+8 # bluesapphire48 2012-09-19 15:33
Remember this?
"While extolling her own suffering, Ann Romney complained about how You People have demonized the great compassion evinced in The Mitt Romney, and added, “And for people to think that we don’t have empathy just because we’re not suffering like they’re suffering is– is ridiculous. It’s– it’s ridiculous to think that you can’t have empathy for somebody that’s struggling.” http://www.politicususa.com/ann-romney-ridiculous-empathy.html
So, she's in on the big act. What a pair! President of the Cayman Islands is too good for him! He should be Mayor of Fukushima, Japan!
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-09-20 00:21
She's not in on the act, she's a Stepford wife.
 
 
+11 # crinvegas 2012-09-19 15:40
He will still say anything to get elected. He is now saying that he said what he said because he thought that was what that group wanted to hear. In other words, "What would you like to hear? I'll say it, if you'll vote for me."
 
 
+14 # jazzman633 2012-09-19 15:50
Definition of a "gaffe": when a politician inadvertently says what he really thinks.
 
 
+1 # bluesapphire48 2012-09-19 19:57
Ambrose Bierce would have written something like this! ;)
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-19 16:35
I was more disgusted about the Woman of Spanish/America n Descent that went to bat for this Sleaze. She also said that Mittsy knows all about the Spanish people as his father was from Mexico. (I am sure Mittens would rather forget that)
However, I would have liked to ask her how she could eat with that mouth since the Republicans would deport everyone of them if possibe....and fact is Arizona and other States attitude backs me up.

I cannot understand how Blacks, and any other Person esp the ones who have third world country origins would think to vote for a Nazi Slaveowner.

Yes I am sure these people who work for these sleazes all make min wage if that...just remember they do give the food and hand me downs to them. (tax write offs) I want to see the Taxes...then I want to see Ann eat them.

I want to see the kids in the Military along with every other Poor Kid in the USA let's teach this family some manners...
 
 
+6 # wfalco 2012-09-19 17:13
What the Republicans seem to finally have is the prototypical white male executive candidate.
The name even fits the bill-Willard Mitt Romney-how superbly upper class it sounds.
It is likely that old Mitt was just in a good old boy back slapping mood at this fund raiser. He was with "his people" and was able to let his neatly groomed hair down. Snide remarks. Condescension. Conceit. These are the common traits of these bunch of American "Patriots"-I mean swindlers. Really nothing new, in my opinion-except he got caught! Looks like I will finally renew my subscription to Mother Jones.
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-09-20 00:26
Patriot? This man was riding a bicycle in France when others his age were being killed in Viet Nam. He is only different than 5-draft deferrments Cheney by degree. Why are all the hawks draft dodgers?
 
 
-8 # reiverpacific 2012-09-19 17:41
Isn't this getting to be old news by now?
I mean, I've had this twice already on RSN.
Good on M.J. for the evidence but let's move on: keep it in the memory-banks as part of the increasing verifiable armory against this utter pretender, rather than repeating it time after time, as if we were rubbing our dried-out hands, like old hags who claim "I told you so!".
No doubt Twit will fill in his own blanks as he drives Karl Rove and all his many plutocrat/total itarian-incline d handlers to a new self-destructiv e level of despair.
 
 
+5 # ghostperson 2012-09-20 00:35
Rove is one to worry about. He is like a deadly virus. There is a new book out about him called Boss Rove. I read recently that recently married for the third time apparently to diffuse rumors that he was playing for both teams. Who cares if he does? What would concern me is that he claims to be a "values" candidate but is intellectually dishonest in that he ritually uses homophobia as an IED to rile up the Christian evangelical base. The answer to same sex-marriage, don't marry someone of the same sex if you don't want to. It ain't goring my ox.
 
 
+10 # ganymede 2012-09-19 17:52
While celebration is premature, it's almost a certainty that Romney and the Republicans are going to lose big time in November. Romney is turning out to be the worse possible candidate these fools could have chosen.Now is the time to start thinking about what life is going to be like in Obama's second term. He had to do what he had to do to survive his first term and many of us felt he wasn't strong enough with the retrograde people. The second time around he's going to do an enormous amount of work to help reform America. We've been going downhill for a long time now and this fascist (yes, our own American form of fascism) rightwing crap has permeated our brains. It's now up to all of us to start working positively to rebuild America. Not a revolution, but, perhaps, looking at some of the social democracies in Europe like Scandanavia or Germany as models to aim for and surpass. There's no reason why a wealthy country like the US can't have the best universal health care system going. And we can have more diplomacy in dealing with tense problems like the Middle East/Israel. And we can take a page out of Keynes and have the government be the priming pump to get people back to work. Yes, there's nothing wrong with capitalism, it just has to be seriously regulated like FDR did, etc. Wake up America, the time is coming for serious change and reform and we have to support Obama to the hilt if were going to make any progress.
 
 
+8 # indio007 2012-09-19 18:53
The Republicans are some funny people.
They say..
You have no right to die...
You have no right to live...

Can't make these guys happy at all.
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-20 00:36
And the right to life ends when you are born.
 
 
+7 # pernsey 2012-09-19 19:59
Well the real Mitt has stood up, now he can sit back down. This guy is very sick and greedy, and should never ever be in charge of this country.

Before you say anything Mitt, about anyone elses taxes, lets see yours Mitt. Show us your taxes and leave everyone else alone. Your a nasty piece of work.
 
 
+5 # jwoodchase 2012-09-19 20:20
Thank you, Ganymede. We need to stop ranting and put our heads together as to how to help Obama address the massive problems of education (have you noticed how he usually puts this in first place?), health care, national debt, etc. etc. It doesn't matter how much money candidates have (remember FDR's wealthy patrician family?), it's their character and intelligence that count, and their commitment to all the American people.
Yes, Obama has disappointed in many ways. As you say, Ganymede, he had to survive. Four more years will give him the breathing space he needs to follow through on many of the promises he made in 2008. He is our only hope for the reforms you so truthfully point out!
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-09-19 21:18
Romney is Dick Cheney in a better suit and with hair. Cheney, who believed in an imperial presidency accountable to no one, commented that it is a dog-eat-dog, cat-eat-cat world and that the winners deserved all the marbles simply because they won. Which is head scratcher because by that standard his co-president didn't make the cut. Bush was bailed out of every business venture he attempted by his daddy's friends after first having gotten into an elite eastern university by means other than qualifications.

This is the confounding, hypocritical world of wealth. Lucre is purposely confused with worth and it doesn't make any difference how one gets it. By that standard successful drug dealers are laudable. There are special rules for special people. The ones with the gold make all the rules which they only apply to others.

To justify their churlish ways, they spout self-serving propaganda about others being jealous of their wealth. An absurd proposition in a country that prizes achievement through and reward from hard work. Americans applaud success.

Plutocrats don't "get it" because they don't want to. Ordinary people want a single set of rules for all to live by and not to be collateral damage to
out-of-control vultures who give us weapons of mass financial destruction.

Righteousness is the inevitable garment of the Anglo Philistine.
 
 
+5 # Rick Levy 2012-09-19 21:51
For All the stupid things that Dubya said during his terms in office, I don't remember any of them being as mean-spirited as Romney's "47%" remarks.
 
 
+6 # artic fox 2012-09-19 22:47
I don't know what all the fuss is about:
The British had it right" Mitt the Twitt!
 
 
+11 # JoanWile2 2012-09-20 07:57
THE 47% RESPONDS



OH, MY GOD, MITT
I'M APPARENTLY UNFIT
TO DESERVE YOUR CONCERN

I 'M ON MEDICARE, YOU SEE,
AND SOCIAL SECURITY
AND YOU MAY AS WELL LEARN

I BELIEVE THE FED
SHOULD HELP 'TIL I'M DEAD
IF I CAN'T DO IT ON MY OWN

GOVERNMENT SHOULD PROTECT ME
CERTAINLY NOT NEGLECT ME
NONE CAN MAKE IT ALONE

NOT EVEN YOU, FOR ONE
A WEALTHY MAN'S SON
WHOSE PATH WAS PAVED WITH GREEN

DON'T TELL ME THAT YOU
HAD NO HELPING HAND OR TWO --
HAVE THE GUTS TO COME CLEAN

YES, I BELONG IN THE TENT
OF YOUR SCORNED FORTY-SEVEN PERCENT
EXCEPT THAT I PAY MY TAX

PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU PAY
ON ALL THAT LOOT HIDDEN AWAY
IN YOUR HUGE CAYMAN STACKS

SO, GO AHEAD AND IGNORE ME
FEEL FREE TO DEPLORE ME
SAY YOU DON'T CARE WHAT I DO

WHEN WE PUSH THE LEVER,
YOU'LL BE THE GRIEVER
AND WE WON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU!
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-09-20 14:41
That was extremely good. Woody Guthrie would be proud.
 
 
+5 # Jane Gilgun 2012-09-20 12:33
Is that what you call it? Social Darwinism? I thought it was stupidity, arrogance, greed, tunnel vision, hatred, and rejection of the common good. I even wonder if most super rich are as stupid as Romney and his audience seem to be.
 
 
-8 # Raymond Dean 2012-09-20 20:50
Reich is just as loose with the truth as he accuses Romney of being. He says that Romney won't release his tax statements. Two years of tax returns are enough to secure a mortagage. Since when is it necessary for us to go back 10 years? That is beyond the statute of limitations except for the most heinous of acts.
 
 
+3 # pernsey 2012-09-21 05:51
Quoting Raymond Dean:
Reich is just as loose with the truth as he accuses Romney of being. He says that Romney won't release his tax statements. Two years of tax returns are enough to secure a mortagage. Since when is it necessary for us to go back 10 years? That is beyond the statute of limitations except for the most heinous of acts.


Raymond when will you open your eyes to see your defending someone who isnt going to give a rats bottom about you or your family. I can only assume that your part of the super rich elite, or you wouldnt be making up excuses for this guy. Are you so desperate to see this country go down the toilet? Regardless of whatever Fox news is spewing out about Obama, most of it isnt true. Its made up and engineered facts so you will hate him. Quit defending this dolt, he should reveal his taxes and more then 2 years worth, like every other reasonable person running for president would. Quit making up your excuses for this inexcusable etch-a-sketch.
 
 
+1 # chicagoflygirls 2012-09-21 18:11
At least the 47% are spending their money in the US to survive and that is driving our economy now.... the super rich are not known for buying local, or even buying American. The offshore tax havens do not help our economy. Who are the real patriots? My 92 year old mother who spends her social security for food and yard help. And she also donates to charity. Who does Mitt think he is... a master of the universe?
 
 
+1 # Vegan_Girl 2012-09-22 04:15
I knew about him everything I needed to know when I heard how he treated his own dog.
 

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