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Gibson writes: "Reasonable suspicion should now be able to apply to Mitt Romney as it applies to anyone on the streets of New York City."

Mitt Romney addresses supporters during a campaign rally, 04/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)
Mitt Romney addresses supporters during a campaign rally, 04/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)


"Reasonable Suspicion" Now Applies to Mitt Romney

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News

08 September 12


Reader Supported News | Perspective

 

easonable suspicion" should now be able to apply to Mitt Romney as it applies to anyone on the streets of New York City.

I remember being stopped and frisked by the NYPD after my first five minutes in Brooklyn in the spring of 2011. My business partner and I were singled out for a warrantless search and detainment for no other reason than the fact that we were a young white guy and a young black guy in a shady neighborhood late at night. Neither of us had drugs or weapons, neither of us had committed a crime, but the NYPD officers who searched us said they were allowed within the law to stop and frisk anyone they deemed "suspicious." Reporters should likewise use that same standard of reasonable suspicion to relentlessly press the Romneys over their tax returns until the truth comes out.

Mitt Romney has been accused of not paying federal income taxes for over ten years by Harry Reid. Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC accused the Romneys of taking advantage of a past tax amnesty granted temporarily by the IRS that allowed those who had committed tax felonies through overseas bank accounts to come forward and pay their taxes without being charged with a felony. Either situation, if true, would be the final nail in the coffin of Romney's presidential bid.

Clearly, the best way for Romney to settle all accusations that he is a felonious tax dodger is to simply reveal through his tax returns that his finances are as clean as a whistle, just like he says they are. The fact that the Romney campaign would prefer to take constant heat from the press about their lack of transparency over their tax returns, even in the face of such bold accusations, should qualify as "reasonable suspicion" that the Romneys have engaged in tax practices that are, at best, excessive and unreasonable in the eyes of regular Americans, and at worst, felonious.

Ann Romney stands by her claim that everything they've done in their finances has been legal. Technically, that could apply to just about anything. It's completely legal for General Electric to only pay a 2% corporate income tax rate to the US government over a decade, through the various schemes and loopholes their lobbyists have successfully convinced chairmen and ranking members of House and Senate tax-writing committees to insert into the tax code.

The same standard of legality could also apply to the Romneys, who have bank accounts in tax havens like the Cayman Islands and Switzerland, if they took advantage of a past tax amnesty for would-be felons in filing returns with the IRS for 2009 or 2011. There's simply no way to tell, since all they'll release is one tax return from 2010 and estimates for 2011. And as in the case of GE, just because something is technically legal doesn't make it right. And GE has it easy - they aren't trying to win the votes of millions of taxpaying American families, most of whom probably don't even have a mansion with its own lobbyist to get around zoning rules, like the Romneys do.

For a candidate who is basing his run for the presidency on the idea that rich people like him pay too much in taxes, and that poor and middle-class people should pay more, not being transparent about how much he actually paid in taxes already looks really, really bad. It looks infinitely worse than being a pair of young guys in a rough neighborhood in the middle of the night. The Romneys deserve to be stopped-and-frisked over their missing tax returns by the press during every interview until they disclose them, because they're going to remain suspicious as hell until they show us what's really in there.

Alternately, it would be very easy for someone at the IRS with a high enough security clearance to scan a few documents, get an encrypted email account, and anonymously send some of the Romney tax returns over to the good folks at WikiLeaks just in time for the presidential debates. Either the Romneys come clean, or someone else will leak the dirt.



Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Manchester, New Hampshire. You can contact Carl at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and listen to his online radio talk show, Swag The Dog, at blogtalkradio.com/swag-the-dog.

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+143 # juliajayne 2012-09-08 11:28
Trouble is, Carl, that whisle blowers and low stratum IRS employees would be on the hook for breaking the law while Willard never would be, because he's rich.

Different rules apply to the rich in this woman's America. He prolly WILL get away with releasing bupkis.
 
 
+84 # NanFan 2012-09-08 14:15
This should be mandatory! There may be a conflict of interest that ties Mitt to people who are doing something felonious to the US government. What's he writing off? Why? If you or I ran for public office, we would be asked to reveal our tax returns. That Mitt isn't doing so says VOLUMES about what he's hiding.

I like the idea of making this, somehow, part of the debates. It must be! Some wise journalist must ask the right question to reveal this "Mr. Tan Man" for who he really is.

Gawd forbid he gets into office with his lying fraud of a running mate, Ryan.

N.
 
 
+12 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 15:13
Some thoughts on possible actions:

Forward this article to everyone you can.

Write editorials to your local papers. Many of them are not totally in the pockets of the Big Media.

One can also call their local public radio stations with comments, or send e-mails to NPR outlets, some of which may get some airplay.
 
 
+25 # Adoregon 2012-09-08 19:34
juliajane has got it.

We [citizens] are often reminded "we are a nation of laws" and "no one is above the law." However, unless law is impartially applied, it loses any moral suasion. If the rich are allowed to cheat, what incentive is there for the proles not to [cheat]?

This is why the Controlled Substances Act is so patently bogus. It purports to judge and schedule all [drug]substance s by the same criteria, yet it treats alcohol and tobacco with partiality. It gives both drugs a free pass and simply ignores them (as the rich and their tax gambits are conveniently ignored).

Either all persons' actions are subject to identical and impartial criteria; either all substances are subject to identical and impartial criteria or the law is not just and justice exists not at all.
 
 
+140 # MarkT 2012-09-08 11:31
Romney won't release his past tax returns until the information in them is less damning than the political flak from not releasing them. It's thus likely that he will never release those returns.
 
 
+72 # Vardoz 2012-09-08 12:58
Sorry I don't agree. He does not want us to see them because he knows they will not make him look good. He's is not a man od the people.
 
 
+87 # mdhome 2012-09-08 13:07
consider that proof positive that the RoMoneys have gotten away with paying $0, and if that is not being a traitor to the country, I sure do not know what you need to do. Certainly not worthy of being president of a country he HATES!
 
 
+32 # Kiwikid 2012-09-08 19:08
Back the truck up! Mr Romney loves America! Why wouldn't he? Where else could he live as he does? That's why he's committed to making it even better! Even lower tax rates for him, even fewer financial regulations imposed upon him - what about this is there not for him to like. He will certainly be head over heals in love with an America that will give all this and more :-)
 
 
+16 # Alice 2012-09-09 07:27
I think we have to consider how bad it will look if it turns out that he did indeed pay 0 taxes, when one of their big mouth talking points is how 50% of the people in this country pay no taxes at all - a lie, but that does not stop them from saying it. For me, there would be great satisfaction to have it revealed that this empty Max Headroom shell of a candidate did not pay anything in taxes...
 
 
+31 # tahoevalleylines 2012-09-08 13:11
Sooner or later leaks happen; they always do. Mitt Rooney has lived his working life based on the business model displayed in the book by Senator Cannon: "Under The Prophet In Utah". He chose his course as a young man and cannot cover all the loose ends if he releases the returns. He fears the IRS more than his LDS franchise.

Rarely does a man have an opportunity to set everything right at a propitious moment such as this. If Mitt Romney would pray and fast on this, he could prove himself an honest man, albeit with a very high cost to him and his loved ones. There's the rub...

As detailed in Walter L. Martin's "The Maze Of Mormonism", honest research on the part of Willard "Mitt" Romney would reveal need for serious recanting of basic LDS doctrine. Most LDS doctrine is contrary to original Judeo-Christian scripture. Many LDS beliefs and practices are unsupportable in either Old or New Testament narrative, and much of LDS practice & doctrine is downright blasphemous in the eyes of God.

Mitt Romney is an intelligent man in most regards. He has chosen to deny some elemental scriptural truths, and his soul cannot rest until he reconciles LDS error with our Lord Jesus Christ. Tax returns are not Mitt Romney's most serious challenge. This is the mother of Catch 22's; recanting means an existential unraveling for the largest religious cult in America. A bitter sauce indeed.
 
 
-5 # CAMUS1111 2012-09-08 16:45
as much as it is obvious that mormonism is a cult, i thought southern baptists or perhaps catholics were the largest religious cult in this country.
Hey, RSN if your're going to print likely bigoted opinion such as "our Lord Jesus Christ," then you have an obligation to print responses to the contrary, or stop asking for support.
 
 
+6 # Kiwikid 2012-09-08 22:17
Unclear what you mean, Camus. RSN prints plenty of anti-religious rants and barbs. I see very few posts like the one you're complaining about.
 
 
-13 # CAMUS1111 2012-09-08 17:02
for christ's sake....
 
 
+2 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 13:55
Would it have made a difference if the person making that statement put the words "lord jesus christ" in quotes as I just did? I think that was the intention, but I could be wrong.
 
 
+10 # davidr 2012-09-08 11:38
Wow! Please reconsider the last graf. It's a really, really bad idea to advocate corruption within the IRS just because there's corruption in the Romney family or the Senate Ways & Means Committee.
 
 
+84 # juliajayne 2012-09-08 12:54
I'm sure he meant it rhetorically, but even so, I agree with you. I don't know why you're getting the thumbs down.

As others have opined, I do think we should keep the pressure on dude to release his returns. Make him extremely uncomfortable, as he's made others. Afflict the comfortable...p araphrasing the quote. ;-)
 
 
+53 # jcdav 2012-09-08 16:38
Yes, unrelenting pressure to hand over his tax documents for the past 10 years. It would appear that they contain data that would be more damaging than his refusing to hand them over. Some possibilities might just be:

1. he paid so little tax or stashed so much money that working stiffs would get angry

2. he has shortchanged the Church & fears THEIR anger

3. took amnesty in 2009 which would be a major black eye (really?, Rethugs should think this praisworthy0

4. PERHAPS he lied tovote in a Mass election when he had just built a mansion in CA..he was SUPPOSEDLY living in his son's basement in MAss. This would, ironically, be voter fraud & a felony.

Hound Mr. Romney, it is our civic duty.
 
 
-74 # JackB 2012-09-08 18:34
This is typical liberal BS. You have no facts so you made some stuff up & now you are trying to peddle those "possibilities" as being the real thing.

No one can show that he has done anything wrong in terms of breaking any laws but he has made liberals unhappy which is a capital crime to a liberal. If you make a liberal unhappy you can they will hound you to the Gates of Hell. It's their civic duty. Can't imagine how vile things would be if the person had actually done something wrong.
 
 
+31 # juliajayne 2012-09-08 21:56
Well, he's done plenty of wrong. As a vulture capitalist he was an asset stripper and left companies holding the bag for borrowed money. Was it legal? Maybe. Amoral, hells yeah! Read up on how he made his fortune off the backs of working people and then tell me why he won't release his tax returns. If there's nothing wrong, then "our bad".

And I'll give him some grudging respect if he apologizes to your president and mine for aiding and abetting the birther nonesense AND lying with every breath he takes. I'm nice like that. ;-)
 
 
+24 # Alice 2012-09-09 07:32
He did not just leave companies holding the bag. When they ran off with the pensions, it was the US government he left holding the bag to cover those federally guaranteed pensions.
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 13:01
Yes, see my comment below on MST steel, from Paul Begala's article in Newsweek -"The Bailout Brothel"!
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 13:02
Indeed, wasn't his father born in Mexico?
 
 
+21 # JohnMayer 2012-09-08 23:19
And yet Mitt could so easily turn aside our wrath and prove to all his followers that he is, indeed, an honest, patriotic, dutiful citizen. That would be a real feather in his cap and likely gain him several points in the polls. Such an easy measure to take. No we can’t PROVE he’s broken any laws, but his refusal to DISPROVE that is, in fact, pretty damning.
 
 
+13 # bingers 2012-09-09 03:06
Jack B, Made something up? Doubtful, otherwise he has absolutely no reason not to release his taxes. FYI, inventing stories in nearly the sole franchise of the right which makes up nearly everything they say, including your charge here.
 
 
+7 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 14:05
And, Jack B, what if you are wrong? What if it turns out he has done something illegal? It's already been shown he's unethical. (read Matt Taibbi's article on Romney and Bain on RSN)

What are you doing to do if you are wrong? would you admit it? From what I see in Republicans, as well as in many other people, it seems hard for people to say, "You know, I might be wrong." As if admitting a mistake was a crime.

The way I see it, when I become perfect, then I won't have to say that. Until then, I reserve the right to be human, and make mistakes. If I do it openly, at least then I can correct them.

It's lying about them, that doesn't allow people to make mistakes openly, and then change them.

And, as a school teacher once told me, if you can't make mistakes, what can you make?

And this. I believe only cowards lie. They may not be cowardly all the time, but at they time they are lying, they are afraid. Instead of man-ing up, and being responsible for their fear, they deny it, and continue the lie. (eg Paul Ryan)

I believe Romney and the Republicans are afraid, and they want us to be afraid. In fact, I think that is their intent behind every lie they tell. I don't know about you, but I don't trust those who want me to be afraid, and want to control my decisions by lying to me.

Again, what if you are wrong?
 
 
+2 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 12:58
And how he screwed MST steel and then took taxpayer-funded bailout money to boot! (Red Paul Begala's article in Newsweek on the "Bailout Brothel"
 
 
+22 # Muzzi 2012-09-08 21:39
1. Lived in Utah or one of his other mansions in 1999 and 2000 when he was required to have 7 years residency in Massachusetts to run for Governor in 2002?
2. Tax amnesty in 2009?
3. Reveal how much he was paid to outsource American jobs?
4. Reveal how much he wrote off as expenses and what they were, i.e., legal or illegal? The Statute has run out for any year before 2009 and I'm sure he does not want to be audited for 2009, 2010, and 2011. IRS should audit NOW!
 
 
+12 # CL38 2012-09-09 19:24
He did lie to get elected Gov. in MA (must live here for 7 years to run for office). He claimed he filed taxes in MA -- and asked voters to trust him on this. It later came out that he actually filed in UT to get better tax deductions.

DON'T TRUST Mitt!
 
 
+54 # kalpal 2012-09-08 13:27
So its best to let the criminals get away with it? The USA allowed Dick Cheney and his crew to screw over this nation and use Bush as a sock puppet by refusing to let him see any options about decision making other than the ones they wanted him to see. They harmed this nation and only a few whistle blowers made it possible to uncover the betrayal of this nation's laws and ideals by authoritian monsters like David Addington, John Yoo, Haynes and Byby.
 
 
+22 # Independentgal 2012-09-08 13:30
As much as I think Romney took advantage of the 2009 amnesty and should release his return for that year if none other, I agree that no one should advocate corruption within the IRS. You can be sure if someone from the IRS did leak Romney's returns, that person would be discovered and end up in jail. Sorry, but the suggestion sounds more like something the right wing haters would think nothing of doing if there were a question about Obama's returns. No need to stoop to their level.
 
 
+30 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 14:57
There is corruption, laziness, favoritism in the IRS
It is time they Audit every Politician, Lawyer,Doctor esp Research Departments

Sad that you would not want the truth from the ones who should be Investigating.
 
 
+26 # Independentgal 2012-09-08 15:41
I think you misunderstood that I didn't want the truth. IRS employees are not allowed, by law, to release taxpayer information without the taxpayer's consent. If they do this without consent, they could end up in jail. I also was speaking specifically to the year 2009 -- the year the IRS gave the amnesty. If Romney took advantage of the amnesty, it would be on his return for that year, so the IRS would know it, and he would be responsible for paying the taxes he should have paid when he was hiding his income. Please know that I agree with you about wanting his returns released, especially because I think he committed fraud.
 
 
+16 # JackB 2012-09-08 18:39
The IRS may not be allowed to release taxpayer information without the taxpayers consent but that does not stop them from pursuing criminal actions.

I would think that with all the ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE being bandied about on this board we have more than enough proof to give to the IRS & have them put Romney's ass in jail. It's our Patriotic Duty.
 
 
+17 # lisamoskow 2012-09-08 11:50
Yeah!
 
 
+59 # Virginia 2012-09-08 12:09
The federal government has the filed taxes and the ability to internally audit them. If something is wrong, if he didn't file or they determine that he didn't pay enough they will send him one letter that he MUST respond to and if he doesn't they will seize his bank accounts for the amount of money they (IRS) determines he owes.

If the federal government isn't doing it's job - then whose fault it that? Apparently, the only reason Romney's taxes are an issue is because he used all the loopholes the assholes in Congress allowed and didn't have to claim the income as taxable. That doesn't make it illegal.

The IRS has the ability to internally audit anybody's tax forms and if you don't file they come after you if you are in the system. Are they doing their job?

Romney is probably uncomfortable showing people how much money he made busting up relatively good businesses and displacing thousands of employees...rui ning millions of American families. 84+ million Americans are unemployed...st opped looking for work. Depression meds are probably way up... Betcha Romney's got some pharmaceutical stocks, yeah?
 
 
+71 # mdhome 2012-09-08 13:10
It may be legal, cause you pay lobbiests to fudge the tax law, but it DAMN WELL IS UNPATRIOTIC!
 
 
-61 # JackB 2012-09-08 14:30
B.S. Show us your patriotism. Find ways to pay more taxes than you owe. Then share your methodology with us so we can all become patriotic.
 
 
+41 # Billy Bob 2012-09-08 16:45
You really need to stop using OUR roads and drinking OUR water, since you're unwilling to pay for it.
 
 
+15 # Shipton 2012-09-08 21:16
Quoting JackB:
B.S. Show us your patriotism. Find ways to pay more taxes than you owe. Then share your methodology with us so we can all become patriotic.

Jack the way I found to be Patriotic was to spend time in the Tonkin Gulf during Nam and in the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea in the 80's. As far as your "Methodology" statement goes Jack, it's easy and something you and probably no other Repub or Teabagger has EVER done. Ready for it? Write a check for more than you owe and mail it in. Now in April you know how to show your Patriotism. Try it Jack then you too can know how it feels to be a true patriotic american.
 
 
+9 # Muzzi 2012-09-09 20:16
How do you feel about Mitt spending 4 years in Paris, France trying to convert French Catholics to Mormonism while you were fighting in Vietnam? It was nice that his father could afford to send him there instead of allowing him to fulfil his military obligation.
 
 
+33 # kalpal 2012-09-08 13:29
Not allowed loopholes. The loopholes were bought and paid for. Taking a few pieces of silver to betray a nation is a tradition in the christian world.
 
 
+29 # Independentgal 2012-09-08 13:36
Everyone knows he's super rich, so they shouldn't be surprised by the income shown on the returns. Very few will understand the machinations that he went through to save on taxes. The amnesty though is another issue entirely. As noted in the article, if he took advantage of the amnesty, the public will know that he had committed tax fraud and was only excused because of the amnesty. If that is the case, I would hope that even some of the red staters would stay home or vote for Obama on election day, rather than a would-be felon.
 
 
+4 # Virginia 2012-09-08 19:40
What we really need to see is his financial disclosure statements. In fact I'd like to see Obama's too. Recently, we've been looking at state and federal judges' financial disclosure statements and it's amazing how much bank stock these guys own. How are they going to be impartial when their investment portfolio survives only if the banks do?

This same problem exists in Congress - much too easy for insider trading there too. Now, if they all start cashing in their stocks there could be a run on the banks - so they are faced with how to protect their assets (bad investments) but it's at the expense of the American middle class.

The President is stuck - because what he has going in he can't touch while he's in office. So, who is he going to throw to the wolves? Right, likely nobody that's in his portfolio.
 
 
+16 # bingers 2012-09-09 03:09
You CAN see Obama's as they've been released.
 
 
+79 # natalierosen 2012-09-08 12:21
Most all of the comments here have some truth. STILL the pressure MUST be kept alive. It costs NOTHING to us the taxpayer to keep pounding our fist that that immoral empty suit of a rancid man have his head on the block -- figuratively of course. Keep asking and asking and asking and asking and asking AND do NOT give up. Pound away until like water boarding he cannot stand the torture anymore. We have NOTHING to lose. He is damned if he does not and damned if he does. Good let him sweat for a living like the rest of us do!
 
 
+84 # vilstef 2012-09-08 12:29
My opinion only, but I think Romney is not releasing the returns because he has stiffed the LDS on his tithe. As a LDS elder-Bishop possibly also, this would be very damaging to him.
 
 
+32 # natalierosen 2012-09-08 14:38
No tithing would not do one thing to hurt his chances for the presidency. That is his only goal which has NO principles behind it. He would be in the Martian Party if he thought it could get him in the WH door. That cannot be and tithing would be NOTHING to him. big deal. The church is about power and money as most churches are. The followers are simply pawns to get the big guys in clover. Romneybot in the White House would be the Mormons ticket to Nirvana. That religion is as loony as a rabid bat. Check out their magic underwear and the Planet Kolub. WHo cares? But when they started to baptize Jewish dead from the Holocaust well THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR ME! WOW the nerve. I digress. Like in Hamlet the play's the thing. In our nation the Bot's taxes are the thing!
 
 
+126 # Robert B 2012-09-08 12:41
John McCain had a look at 23 years worth of Romney's tax returns, then decided to go for Sarah Palin. How come McCain never said that Harry Reid is a liar?
 
 
+58 # mdhome 2012-09-08 13:12
Well, I guess we can see that McCain thought Palin was better than RoMoney, so why the hell are the republicants running someone less desirable that Palin???
 
 
+36 # SpyderJan 2012-09-08 13:52
Quoting Robert B:
John McCain had a look at 23 years worth of Romney's tax returns, then decided to go for Sarah Palin. How come McCain never said that Harry Reid is a liar?


That is a very good point. It's not as though Republicans haven't called Democrats liars before.
 
 
+7 # Okieangels 2012-09-08 15:47
Well... Harry Reid is a Mormon, isn't he? Maybe McCain just decided it wasn't worth getting involved with the whole mess. Maybe the big boys in Salt Lake City would rather wait for a better Mormon candidate to endorse.
 
 
-77 # JackB 2012-09-08 14:34
Permit me to bring to you attention the fact that you do not have a damn clue as to why McCain did not choose Romney. You don't even know if he did & Romney turned him down.

Liberals love putting Palin down & she did have more than her share of shortcomings. However she had more than a blank page for a resume. Barry came to the table with nothing & has spent more than three years proving the blank page accurately reflected his capabilities.
 
 
+17 # natalierosen 2012-09-08 15:40
WRONG!! You'd LIKE to think that but it's not at all true. Give us a break JackB who are you from the R&R campaign. Great initials for a ticket -- sounds like a bed and breakfast ... rest and relaxation that is definitely more like what that empty ticket would be!
 
 
-32 # JackB 2012-09-08 18:54
Rather typical liberal. The truth is what you say it is. Perhaps you could spare a fact or two proving it is not at all true.

R&R. Yes, it could refer to Romney - Ryan. I have no idea of your meaning with the rest & relaxation statement. The correct term is rest & recuperation. It is military leave for people in a combat zone that does not count against their annual leave time. It has no applicability in this context either.

You may view Romney & Ryan as being an empty ticket but consider your heroes - a blank resume & a political Barney Fife.
 
 
+22 # Shipton 2012-09-08 21:00
Quoting JackB:
Rather typical liberal. The truth is what you say it is. Perhaps you could spare a fact or two proving it is not at all true.


Why, yes Jack, just like Fox/Rush/etc say that the financial mess we are in is all Obama's fault. They just can't remember the 8 yrs of the Bush Admin that they were all so proud of that got us into this mess in the first place. Remember this truth if nothing else Jack, Bin Laden is dead and GM is very much alive, thanks to President Barack Hussein Obama. That is his name Jack, not "Barry".
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 12:51
And Rush ('the tush'?) was also blaming Obama for the hurricane that just missed Tampa too !
 
 
+14 # juliajayne 2012-09-08 21:59
Sure, leader of the free world is an empty resume. Oh, but he's never run a lemonade stand. Boo hoo. Do you fathom how "empty" you sound with those stale talking points? Just sayin'.
 
 
+8 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 14:24
Hey Jack, I'm thinking that Obama proved that nothing gets done with the house part of congress made up of people whose attitude is "my way or the highway." And a senate minority whose leader says that his primary goal is not to solve problems but to get a duly elected president out of office.

Sometimes it's not so much the height one attains as it is the hole one has to crawl out of. Frist Romney left a hole for Clinton to crawl out of, which he did in 8 years, and then Bush left a deeper hole for Obama and the American people to crawl out of, and he is, I think, doing his best with the obstructionist house he was given.

Again, Jack, you may be somewhat right about some other things, but why are you ignoring the obivous? Aren't you picking and choosing what ideas you are offering. Are you afraid to admit you might be wrong? I think you certainly are about this, in any case.
 
 
+24 # Mannstein 2012-09-08 16:39
Palin is as dumb as they come. No amount of coaching solved that problem.
 
 
+30 # Billy Bob 2012-09-08 16:49
You're right. "Barry" only headed the Harvard Law Review and graduated Magna Cum Laude. He was only a senator. Whereas Mooselini was able to attend 5 colleges in just 6 years! She was also a governor of one of the smallest states who spent most of her time dodging investigations.

She sure proved us wrong when she couldn't even remember all the sources of news she read.
 
 
-1 # Muzzi 2012-09-09 20:20
Right! She appointed a girlfriend from high achool to be Agriculture Secretary because she liked cows!
 
 
+23 # bingers 2012-09-09 03:13
Quoting JackB:
Permit me to bring to you attention the fact that you do not have a damn clue as to why McCain did not choose Romney. You don't even know if he did & Romney turned him down.

Liberals love putting Palin down & she did have more than her share of shortcomings. However she had more than a blank page for a resume. Barry came to the table with nothing & has spent more than three years proving the blank page accurately reflected his capabilities.


As always, a stupid and factually incorrect post. Romney went to McCain and if he wasn't looking to be VP, he wouldn't have submitted his returns. Romney is outright scum and anyone who would vote for him is an ignorant fool.
 
 
+7 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 14:29
Really appreciate that info. As I mentioned in an earlier post, only cowards lie. Underneath that polished facade, I see someone who was a bully when he was a kid, and a bully when he was at Bain, and now he wants to enlarge the military, probably so he can bully other countries, and maybe his own citizens.

Again, it is the poeple who can't admit they might be wrong who cannot change their minds. And what does that say about how afraid they are. Of course, they are going to respond to people in "power" who are telling them how afraid they should be.
 
 
-6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:00
Excellent I never thought of that point so perhaps this is one fro RSN to ask their Journalists Buddies to question I am going to.
 
 
+58 # allie 2012-09-08 12:46
Ann Romney on their tax returns:


"There is nothing we're hiding." Lightning Bolt struck her at this point.


"Have you seen how we are attacked? Have you seen what's happened?" We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us. But the more we release, the more we get attacked, the more we get questioned, the more we get pushed. And so we have done what's legally required, and there's going to be no more tax releases given." Lightning Bolt hits her again!


In other words, what the voters don't know, will get us into the White House! Yes Virginia, lightning DOES strike twice in the same place.
 
 
+63 # mdhome 2012-09-08 13:14
There MUST be something VERY damaging in those returns if they think they will get attacked more for releasing them than they will for NOT releasing them!
 
 
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:01
I thought her dumbness was due to the bleach jobs and perhaps the Cult teachings...Lig htning!
 
 
+3 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 14:39
Of course, we Romneys are the victims, the liberal/progres sives are the persecuters, so why don't the people who we can con into believing us, save us?

The Karpoman triangle is used to diagnose addictive and dysfunctional interactions between people. It looks like this:

victim

rescuer persecuter


Anytime you have blame involved with adults, you have a victim. Ms. Romney is saying they are the victims because we, the American people, want to get to the truth.

I heard on NPR that Mitt Romney is always looking to see where his wife is, wherever he goes. It seems highly likely that the two people are co-dependent, given the amount of blame they both want to place on people outside their circle, and outside their sphere of influence.

If they are afraid, what they want to do is control everyone outside their circle and sphere of influence. They certainly can't do it telling the truth.
 
 
-1 # Muzzi 2012-09-09 20:25
She probably doesn't know what his income is, like a lot of housewives/home makers of her standing. The only thing she knows is she has the money for her horse and her other hobbies. The men have their CPA prepare the returns and they sign the wife's name.
 
 
+48 # seakat 2012-09-08 12:58
What needs to happen is that some of the lemmings that follow him need to wake up & start asking questions like this, maybe then he'd pay some attention.
 
 
+63 # X Dane 2012-09-08 12:59
It is the usual,.... If you are wealthy enough you can get away with almost anything! An average citizen would be hounded till he/she came clean.

So I would suggest that all journalists keep the pressure on at all times. Make it really unpleasant for both Romneys.

They may not reveal their taxes, but it could make some undecided voters think, that they DO have something to hide.
Something a president should NOT hide.

In my book it totally disqualifies him from the Presidency, that he is hiding his money in other countries, instead of investing in his own country.

He keeps insisting that he loves our country, but his actions belie his words.

HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN OUR COUNTRY, FOR HE IS BETTING AGAINST US WITH HIS MONEY.

In the bible it says, show me where your treasure is and i will show you where your heart is......And he takes a tax write off of 77.000 DOLLARS on his wife's half MILLION dollar horse.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:04
And the decadency of that purchase...my friends raise and have good bloodlines and not asking for that sum.

You are what your ride a horse's ___
 
 
+6 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 12:46
Agree. Tax Evasion. Hoarding one's money in Swiss bank accts. and in the Caymans. Offshoring profits in phony 'offices' like low-tax Bermuda. Treating 'labor' like an expendable commodity instead of human beings with children, families, lives etc. ARE ALL DELUSIONS OF ENTITLEMENT!
 
 
+46 # Philso 2012-09-08 13:07
Tax loopholes are made for the rich, purchased by their lobbyists. With 256 millionaires in Congress, do you really think the laws that benefit the 1% will ever change ?

The only movement large enough that has not been dismantled (yet) by the Right is the Occupy Wall Street movement. Republican state governors are systematically taking apart the biggest unions. After they've gone, the people will have no collective voice to stand up to injustices.
 
 
+15 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:05
Not asking for them to change, hasn't happened since the sixties when we started the rant...but I expect if you are using them, filing taxes than show them. No one else including the Bush' had a hard time with it....very strange I believe the IRS needs pressure to Audit
 
 
-22 # cjc 2012-09-08 13:08
I agree w/juliajayne & davidr. We need to take the high ground & not give anyone the least bit of ammunition to use against us. We should also take a stand against the idea that simply because it's possible to do something (leak a confidential file, download copywrited items w/o paying for them, etc.), it's OK to do so. At least in this case, the ends don't justify the means. Keep up the relentless pressure on every ethical front, and be sure never to weaken our case in any way. Broke as I am, I would want to give a few bucks to RSN, in gratitude for all of the great things I've learned from it, but every time I consider doing so, I'm stopped by RSN's support of Wikileaks.
 
 
+17 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:08
What is wrong with WikiLeaks I think it is about time we start uncovering lies. I do not condone giving up secrets of men and women who serve but Brass who misuse their place, Corporations who ripped us off, you better believe I think they deserve it.
It is okay to know if JeLo is marrying someone or having an affair but you do not want to know if Your Country is committing heinous crimes. Give me a break.
If you cannot afford like myself to monthly contribute, fine but do not use excuses like WikeLeaks We have not heard their full story
 
 
+3 # Muzzi 2012-09-09 20:29
Larry Flynt, of "The Hustler" magazine, is offering $1,000,000.00 to anyone who gets a copy of his income tax returns.
 
 
+4 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 14:47
Don't know why you're getting the thumb's down. However, consider this from A.A.: Not keeping secrets is the same as telling the truth.

If it involves the ability of we, the people, to make betterdecisions about anything our country is doing, why is not a good thing.

Are you familiar with the concept GIGO - Garbage In, Garbage Out? Bad or no information, bad decisions. Good information, hopefully better decisions. Intelligent and concerned people will use the info to make better decisions.

The main concern I have with Republicans is that most of them seem to be in denial about what is going on. Perhaps because they are generally honest people, the assume their Republican leaders aren't lying to them, and slip back into a learned blind obedience.
 
 
-51 # seeuingoa 2012-09-08 13:19
Don´t vote Romney for millions of obvious reasons.

Don´t vote Obama either!

How can you vote for someone who has
a kill list and has signed the
indefinite detention ???

And don´t talk about Congress, Obama
didn´t sign with a gun to his head.

Vote Green, Alternative, Third Party,
We need a totally new system with no
money in politics
 
 
+33 # Billy Bob 2012-09-08 14:01
We don't have a new system. And voting romney into office won't deliver one. If you want to change the system start by organizing the day after the election. If Mittens is in office, expect him to make your activities illegal.
 
 
+29 # kelly 2012-09-08 14:09
Sure. Do that and insure a Romney presidency. No thanks. And I don't know what alternative universe you're living in, but "kill list"? And "no money in politics", tell me about that, when you get a Supreme Court seated that will overturn Citizen's United. I'll give you a hint, that court won't get seated under a Romney presidency.
 
 
+24 # natalierosen 2012-09-08 14:26
That is shooting yourself in the foot. RIDICULOUS. It does not work. George Bush can tell you that and we have Nader to thank for that immoral swine's election plus fraud but still it is NUTS in this era to even think a third party could work. It cannot and it will not and never has NOT for the presidency ask Teddy Roosevelt.

What happens in other generations in other eras matters not to me but what happens now does. Keep asking that immoral twerp Romneybot to FESS up and make the press be relentless to see those tax returns for the American people to judge. He is hiding something that is for sure!
 
 
+2 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 14:49
Right on. 187 thumbs up.
 
 
+16 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:11
America damn well had a kill list, hit on Bin Laden since Papa B

I would like to know what the Greens have done in 25 years to get my vote. I have seen them switch from one plan to another.
When they have a third of Congress and Senate come ask me to vote.

Thanks from the rest of us for condemning us to Mitt and the Nazis
 
 
+5 # James Marcus 2012-09-08 13:21
Get a grip.
'The New Reality' (please! I wish it weren't so):

'Rule of Law', and 'Reasonability' , is all but Dead!...
....for Law Makers, Law Enforcers, Politicians, and Lawyers.

Do you bother watching, any more , the Evening (NOT) News?
 
 
+67 # speedboy 2012-09-08 13:23
Harry Reid has challenged Romney to take a "lie detector test"---if you didn't cheat show your tax forms! Romney, the cowardly weasel, has his wife offer his feeble excuse. This is the same weasel who said he would loved to have served in Viet Nam, but he was on a more important mission in Paris---convert ing French Catholics to Mormonism. I would amputate my arm before voting for this despicable wretch!
 
 
+39 # doneasley 2012-09-08 14:12
Quoting speedboy:
... I would amputate my arm before voting for this despicable wretch!


Speedboy, methinks you don't like this miserable wretch. But his wife said his "integrity is golden". She told reporter Robin Roberts, "We're not going to give YOU PEOPLE any more tax returns!" This arrogant woman also said, "It's our turn", as if the American TAXPAYER is supposed to allow them to waltz into the White House based on their word, which they want us to believe is beyond doubt.

WELL... I DOUBT IT!
 
 
+33 # pernsey 2012-09-08 13:32
Romney is rich...that trumps everything. They dont make rich people suffer the consequences of their actions. They just act like it never happened, the news doesnt look to deeply and they dont report about it on MSM. Poor people are accountable, rich people are not.

I sure do wonder why he wont show his taxes? If hes innocent or has nothing to hide...then why not just show them and get it over with? Why does he get to with hold this information, when everyone else has to show theirs? I still can just imagine if Obama refused to show his taxes, all rationale would fly out the window and Fox news and the right wing loons would be going bonkers.

Mitt show us your taxes!! I dont think anyone should let up on him until he shows us what all presidential nominees show us...his taxes. Man up Mitt!
 
 
+7 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 15:19
Romney is rich... and that is why we, the people, need to do a better job confronting the unethical and illegal.

The intent in confrontation is to resolve conflicts, rather than avoid them. Avoidance changes nothing. It just allows the unethical and illegal to continue on its merry way.

Those who want to control the resolution of conflicts are not to be trusted. In avoiding the showing of his tax returns, Romney wants to control how this conflict is resolved. We must not let him control either this issue, or the other lies he wants to lay on the public. We must confront them everytime we can.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2012-09-10 19:22
pernsey.
As you saw, I advocate to hound him till he CRACKS.
Very likely he has NOT done anything ILLEGAL. And that is the infuriating aspect of it. Very wealthy people can get away with paying VERY little tax. So little that we would all be MAD AS HELL.
And THAT is why he does NOT want us to know.
 
 
+26 # Caballero69 2012-09-08 13:38
Regarding the Romney's and their tax returns: "Let justice be served though the heavens fall!

Right on Mr. Gibson!
 
 
+34 # railroadmike 2012-09-08 13:48
Like GrandMa stated the other day. "It doesnt take rocket science this guy is hiding a felony".
 
 
+28 # Vardoz 2012-09-08 13:52
Anyone who can deny that this guy is a complete corrupt sleeze ball. He such an obvious crook! How anyone could ever vote for these two are masochistic or just plain ignorant. People seem to want to create a truth rather than look at the realities.
 
 
+31 # lourdmar 2012-09-08 13:55
The right wing loves to label Social Security and Medicare as entitlements, ignoring the fact that we paid for it with tax money and our work. In fact Romney's attitude of ENTITLEMENT makes him one of the biggest abusers, Now he feels the country owes him the Presidency while he in turn owes our country zilch, nothing rien, nada? Is this the stuff of which Presidents are made? Should we celebrate and then reward his search for loopholes and other self serving machinations however damaging to our coffers so that he can deprive the government of much needed funds while refusing to come clean about it? If it were such an act of patriotism,why the disclosure refusal, the silence?
That's what I call REAL Entitlement. Time for the press to begin pressing this issue. I wholeheartedly agree with the article.
 
 
+3 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 12:38
Not to mention the Greedy Oil Plutocrats' support of CORPORATE WELFARE -- in the form of TAXPAYER-FUNDED SUBSIDIES to giant corporations like the obscene EXXON and giant agri-business like CONAGRA (NOT small farmers!)
 
 
+16 # cordleycoit 2012-09-08 14:03
Mittens had best watch out as known suspect in a federal crime any one of 98 thousand civil jurisdictions can take him in. And has any prosecutor thought about embezzling charges for his involvement at Bain? It won't happen in NYC the Harvard Club runs the joint not Salt Lake either. What about some place like Oregon. That would be a bad idea because his buddies the Koch Bros would buy the state and bail him.
 
 
+19 # cjc 2012-09-08 14:20
James Marcus and seeuingoa adopt almost opposite approaches here. I must not & cannot judge them, & yet I'd follow a middle course. Voting for anyone other than Obama probably gives Romney the election, just as Nader gave W the Presidency twice. On this point, I can't afford to stand on principle. Think how many hundreds of thousands of lives & trillions of dollars might have been saved if Nader had had less ego, a few thousand people hadn't voted for him, or 1 SC "Justice" had voted differently. No one is perfect, & Obama has many good points. Given the realities of this world, much as I hate them (as a near-pacifist, decades-long vegan), I'm afraid EXTREMELY limited & targeted drone stikes may be the current equivalent of assasinating Hitler. However, I still believe that there's a way to win this election w/o compromising our principles. And yes, I do watch/listen to commercial news, PBS, NPR, PRI, BBC, CCTV, etc., as well as read RSN & other on-line sources. I have few, if any, illusions left. My position re: Wikileaks, etc., is a matter of both principle & political reality. I'm not the only one w/reservations about this, & if we adopt certain expedient tactics, we lose some votes. We can't always have completely clean hands. Sins of omission can be just as deadly as sins of comission. AND, where we can possibly keep our hands clean, we should. Otherwise, we might as well surrender.
 
 
+28 # adolbe 2012-09-08 14:39
He puts money out of country while many thousand serve in heat of Iraq. My gut still says that vast numbers of white Americans would still vote for him even if he robbed banks...oh he did.
 
 
+21 # mjc 2012-09-08 14:50
Hope, as we closer and closer to the November 6 date for elections, that someone...someo ne with credentials and a certain amount of status on the internet or in the media...WILL be asking Romney where his tax returns are, either or including the 2011 returns or the 2009 back to the 2002. Those will certainly be the ones to do the Romneys AND Paul Ryan, that self-righteous liar in.
 
 
+14 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:21
If Mitt has nothing to hide as his wife who is told what to say, then show your colors. I want to see your true colors.
I believe they might be the flag over the Chinese Embassy?

I think it is time he does what is to be done ...get those taxes to the Board for Review as every other American Candidate has done. Hell, the Bush's did it talk about write offs They had Cheney as a write off. probably vice versa.

To all the mealy mouths of this third party nonsense. You are worse than any Republican that shows up on blogs. At least they have a good reason to vote for the Nazis. I have watched the shame of not putting John Meyers, an Independent in. I have known members of third parties of every name there is. Trouble is they have no long standing. They have no lobby power. Greens have shifted in the 25 years plus so many stances that until they have at least a third of the seats from State to DC It is not going to help the USA
Greens should be helping us get the Pres on the right track instead of wasting millions.

I am against all Contributions to Politics. Do you all of you realize how much could be done on the money this year alone for America, Economy, with this waste? Greens are just as much part of the waste of money
Want to know why middle class is tired, do not want to vote. Elections, you spend more money on one candidate whether state or federal that they will ever see in their lifetime.
 
 
+11 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-08 15:27
When you all get your liberal party, Green, Concerned Citizens, Hells AFire and what have you to make up the Seats in House and Senate, then run your Candidate.

We have had bad enough time in almost 4 years with two Congresses. I do not see either any better than the other.
Vote them out, bring in new, good blood.

But if you are handing me over to a Nazi Inferno of insufferable Religious Cult and Slavery Government Do not bother making the Oil Companies rich by voting at all. You insult The Poor, and Middle Class. You are no better than a Republican.

On a better note, leaving the snivelers where they stand. How about a Petition to demand the Romney's Taxes are put in front of the Board of IRS, Media for them to review. I know there is a panel that is supposed to review four years of taxes of the Candidate.
We have the right to Petition. There are a number of Sites that do petitions and help you to do so.
I will look up one...then I will see where the rest of you really stand.
 
 
+18 # LaniPuppetmaker 2012-09-08 15:38
Can someone explain to me how it's OK with so many folks that a person who does not want to pay his club dues, will in fact find ways not to pay, could possibly even be considered for the job of running that club? I just do not get it.

Liked the article here, by the way!
 
 
+7 # m... 2012-09-08 16:38
I wonder if the country is so divided now that it won't matter to millions of voters if he paid taxes or not.
Here's a story direct from The Orwell 'NOW-AMERICA' Vision Center.
Date: 2012.
In Deregulated Global Corporate America, almost all Media Enterprises are owned and exploited by a very few Global Corporations. All of which, are beholden to their Super Wealthy Global Shareholders-- a.k.a. The Global Domineeros.
From their awesome, fearsome giant Media Wall of Sound-Biting comes a Ranting Buzz that crosses brain barriers as easily as crossing ones fingers.
An all pervasive, penetrating 'Propaganda 24/7' is ranted forth from The Cardboard Cutout legions of Corpo-Media's Super-Wealthy Talking Heads of Foisterisms and Smarmy Charms.
The Story Unfolds.
Corpo-Dominated America's National Divide appears galvanized, entrenched and unmovable.
The protagonist, Romney, is under pressure for having paid zero taxes for100 years while also claiming tax rebates illegally to the tune of million$.
He stands alone on a dark bridge as a windy storm pours sleet and freezing rain. His hair and smile remain perfect as he shouts-- 'If Only there was Less Government!'
Suddenly, dawn cracks. The sun brightly spills over the horizon. Blue birds sing. Millions wave flags and cheer. Because 'THIS' is the Corpo-Story of MITT, the anti-evil-big-g overnment True American Hero in-- 'ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE' starring jimmy MITT ROMNEY stewart.
 
 
+4 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 15:08
This might be funny if it wasn't so true.
 
 
+1 # mjc 2012-09-10 09:34
m... it WILL matter to Americans whether or not Romney paid taxes and how much he paid and how much he DID NOT pay. The country isn't that divided. The Teapublicans haven't been that successful for sure. Most voters pay some tax to the internal revenue agency. If Romney is an American, he should be accepting that responsibility, especially if he wants to be a president of the USofA.
 
 
+2 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 12:32
Wha part of "public" servant, doesn't he get?
 
 
+14 # fishmother 2012-09-08 16:51
Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster was even good enough to warn a pre-convention gathering in Tampa that “We’re not going let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers.” In other words, he was giving fair warning that veracity was off the table.

Excerpted from the Blog:
"Don't Just Stand There. Do Something"
http://www.dontjuststand.com/



http://www.dontjuststand.com/
 
 
+18 # seniorcitizen 2012-09-08 17:00
The question about Romney's tax statements are crucial to show his transparency and his character and honesty. When someone is asking the people of the United States to trust them on their word that something is true and refuses to supply the evidence of that,then I begin to ask why they will not prove what they are saying is true. A cheat and a liar will try to hide their deeds and say "you can't make me" if told they must prove that they are truthful. I do not trust Mitt Romney because he refuses to reveal an inconvient truth. He may not want to do so because of his reluctance to reveal his giving to(or not giving) a tith to his LDS religion. Does he think he can get away with a refusal to honor a resonable request by the American people,who expect their leaders to have integrity? Do not let him bully his way out of this question; call him on it and insist on an honest and clear explanation of his past 5 years or more in income tax information. Another reason that I have doubts about his integrity is because when he ran for Governor of Mass., he manipulated his tax returns to show that he paid taxes in Mass.,when he did not actually live there for 7 years, as was required by Mass. law; he really lived in Utah. How did he accomplish this trick? BTW, Mass., how did that work out for you? Did Romney send your jobs to China too? I hear you were near the bottom in U.S. job growth during his term.
 
 
+24 # Joe Bob 2012-09-08 17:55
Yoo Hoo, Y'all... this guy is running for President of the US. Not a small deal. We deserve to know who he really is and what he has done. This will tell us what he would do, if elected.
 
 
+20 # vgirl1 2012-09-08 18:47
Secret money in Swiss banks and the Cayman Islands.

Hidden tax returns.

Excessive unexplained balances in an IRA account.

Favor money in exchange for SuperPac Attack Ads.

Secret economic plans to create jobs and produce tax cuts for the rich.

Campaign lies.

That is the story of the Vulture/Voucher campaign.
 
 
+18 # vgirl1 2012-09-08 18:48
Show us your tax returns, Mr. Romney, at least for the years that you have been running for President.
 
 
+16 # pernsey 2012-09-08 19:33
I just read that Larry Flynt is offering up to a million dollars to anyone who can show him Mitts tax returns...my guess for money, Mitt will turn them in hisself, the Greedy SOB.
 
 
+16 # Phillybuster 2012-09-08 19:57
The last time we elected someone as secretive as Mitt Romney we got Richard Nixon and Watergate. For all we know, Romney may already be on double secret probation!
 
 
+4 # dovelane1 2012-09-09 15:23
We also got five more years in Vietnam, and a lot of extra dead GIs who didn't need to be there.

Now I hear Romney wants to enlarge the military. What war might he want to get us in, so we don't think about such things as tax returns, breaks for the rich, ending medicare, and who knows what else.
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2012-09-10 12:29
Quoting dovelane1:
We also got five more years in Vietnam, and a lot of extra dead GIs who didn't need to be there.

Now I hear Romney wants to enlarge the military. What war might he want to get us in, so we don't think about such things as tax returns, breaks for the rich, ending medicare, and who knows what else.


Iran ...?
 
 
+13 # ABen 2012-09-09 09:57
I like The Daily Show take on the nature of the GOP and its candidate. The GOP; "The party too patriotic for facts." Mittens--"The candidate too wealthy for taxes." Romney the politician is exactly as Jon Huntsman characterized him--a well oiled political weather vane.
 
 
+12 # suzyskier 2012-09-09 12:42
Don't you get it? Romney thinks that he is entitled to be president because he is extremely wealthy and there by Royalty. Many wealthy people suffer under this dillusion, i.e. Koch Brothers and thier ilk. As for Ryan, how can any one beleive a word he says, Lyin' Ryan is the perfect name for this nazi pig.
Romeny thinks he shouldn't have to expose himself with regard to tax returns because he is "special". He is an unctuous sleaze ball. The thought of him as president sends chills down my spine.Ryan even more so, there are things about Ryan that make me think Goebbles. If he lie often enough people will start to believe him, some already do.
 
 
+7 # jcadams 2012-09-09 15:30
It is critical to remember that the American economy (which derives 70% of its GNP from the consumer segment) and the American public assets like federal lands, mineral resources, franchise rights to public assets like radio and TV frequencies, etc. --- are all property that is managed by the federal government. And the true value of these assets runs into the tens of trillions of dollars. And that these assets are owned equally by all 300+ million U.S. citizens. Not the 1%.
Or the likes of the Koch Brothers. As POTUS Mr. Romney will be the steward of these assets. He will have tremendous de facto power to influence the sale or franchising of these public assets to various business interests. Therefore he must have unquestioned integrity. The Bain business model and dealings exposed here indicate some very questionable business ethics on Romney's part. But the fact that he won't make full and complete disclosure of his tax returns --- in
itself --- basically rules Mr. Romney out as a serious candidate to be our POTUS. Romney's various arguments as to why he won't release this information are irrelevant. Frankly --- as POTUS and the "decider in chief" --- Romney could do incredible damage to the value of these public assets. Now more than ever I want to see those tax returns.
 
 
+7 # isafakir 2012-09-09 18:39
"No one can show that he has done anything wrong in terms of breaking any laws but he has made liberals unhappy which is a capital crime to a liberal." to become president of the USA the bar is higher than proving he is not a felon. he may have not done anything wrong. neither has my 5 year old nephew. romney has yet to prove anything right. e couldn't get an entry level security clearance without coming clean on his investment history and income history. it's the least we can expect as his future employers. if he has nothing to hide, why hide it.
 
 
0 # mjc 2012-09-10 06:59
As many of you have said, the time to rally supporters and potential voters to a THIRD party is shortly after the day of the presidential election. There is no time to do all that MUST be done before that, the most important being making the candidate you and the THIRD party "members"suppor t very well known and her/his positions known. AND it takes a lot of money; buckets of money.
 
 
+1 # jack406 2012-09-11 11:03
Senator John McCain has seen the tax returns. He reviewed them before selecting someone else to be his Vice Presidential running mate.
If McCain knows that Romney committed a felony income tax evasion, then McCain should be thrown out of the Senate when the facts surface.
 

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