Gibson writes: "Reasonable suspicion should now be able to apply to Mitt Romney as it applies to anyone on the streets of New York City."
Mitt Romney addresses supporters during a campaign rally, 04/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)
"Reasonable Suspicion" Now Applies to Mitt Romney
08 September 12
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easonable suspicion" should now be able to apply to Mitt Romney as it applies to anyone on the streets of New York City.
I remember being stopped and frisked by the NYPD after my first five minutes in Brooklyn in the spring of 2011. My business partner and I were singled out for a warrantless search and detainment for no other reason than the fact that we were a young white guy and a young black guy in a shady neighborhood late at night. Neither of us had drugs or weapons, neither of us had committed a crime, but the NYPD officers who searched us said they were allowed within the law to stop and frisk anyone they deemed "suspicious." Reporters should likewise use that same standard of reasonable suspicion to relentlessly press the Romneys over their tax returns until the truth comes out.
Mitt Romney has been accused of not paying federal income taxes for over ten years by Harry Reid. Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC accused the Romneys of taking advantage of a past tax amnesty granted temporarily by the IRS that allowed those who had committed tax felonies through overseas bank accounts to come forward and pay their taxes without being charged with a felony. Either situation, if true, would be the final nail in the coffin of Romney's presidential bid.
Clearly, the best way for Romney to settle all accusations that he is a felonious tax dodger is to simply reveal through his tax returns that his finances are as clean as a whistle, just like he says they are. The fact that the Romney campaign would prefer to take constant heat from the press about their lack of transparency over their tax returns, even in the face of such bold accusations, should qualify as "reasonable suspicion" that the Romneys have engaged in tax practices that are, at best, excessive and unreasonable in the eyes of regular Americans, and at worst, felonious.
Ann Romney stands by her claim that everything they've done in their finances has been legal. Technically, that could apply to just about anything. It's completely legal for General Electric to only pay a 2% corporate income tax rate to the US government over a decade, through the various schemes and loopholes their lobbyists have successfully convinced chairmen and ranking members of House and Senate tax-writing committees to insert into the tax code.
The same standard of legality could also apply to the Romneys, who have bank accounts in tax havens like the Cayman Islands and Switzerland, if they took advantage of a past tax amnesty for would-be felons in filing returns with the IRS for 2009 or 2011. There's simply no way to tell, since all they'll release is one tax return from 2010 and estimates for 2011. And as in the case of GE, just because something is technically legal doesn't make it right. And GE has it easy - they aren't trying to win the votes of millions of taxpaying American families, most of whom probably don't even have a mansion with its own lobbyist to get around zoning rules, like the Romneys do.
For a candidate who is basing his run for the presidency on the idea that rich people like him pay too much in taxes, and that poor and middle-class people should pay more, not being transparent about how much he actually paid in taxes already looks really, really bad. It looks infinitely worse than being a pair of young guys in a rough neighborhood in the middle of the night. The Romneys deserve to be stopped-and-frisked over their missing tax returns by the press during every interview until they disclose them, because they're going to remain suspicious as hell until they show us what's really in there.
Alternately, it would be very easy for someone at the IRS with a high enough security clearance to scan a few documents, get an encrypted email account, and anonymously send some of the Romney tax returns over to the good folks at WikiLeaks just in time for the presidential debates. Either the Romneys come clean, or someone else will leak the dirt.
Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Manchester, New Hampshire. You can contact Carl at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and listen to his online radio talk show, Swag The Dog, at blogtalkradio.com/swag-the-dog.
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Different rules apply to the rich in this woman's America. He prolly WILL get away with releasing bupkis.
I like the idea of making this, somehow, part of the debates. It must be! Some wise journalist must ask the right question to reveal this "Mr. Tan Man" for who he really is.
Gawd forbid he gets into office with his lying fraud of a running mate, Ryan.
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Forward this article to everyone you can.
Write editorials to your local papers. Many of them are not totally in the pockets of the Big Media.
One can also call their local public radio stations with comments, or send e-mails to NPR outlets, some of which may get some airplay.
We [citizens] are often reminded "we are a nation of laws" and "no one is above the law." However, unless law is impartially applied, it loses any moral suasion. If the rich are allowed to cheat, what incentive is there for the proles not to [cheat]?
This is why the Controlled Substances Act is so patently bogus. It purports to judge and schedule all [drug]substance s by the same criteria, yet it treats alcohol and tobacco with partiality. It gives both drugs a free pass and simply ignores them (as the rich and their tax gambits are conveniently ignored).
Either all persons' actions are subject to identical and impartial criteria; either all substances are subject to identical and impartial criteria or the law is not just and justice exists not at all.
Rarely does a man have an opportunity to set everything right at a propitious moment such as this. If Mitt Romney would pray and fast on this, he could prove himself an honest man, albeit with a very high cost to him and his loved ones. There's the rub...
As detailed in Walter L. Martin's "The Maze Of Mormonism", honest research on the part of Willard "Mitt" Romney would reveal need for serious recanting of basic LDS doctrine. Most LDS doctrine is contrary to original Judeo-Christian scripture. Many LDS beliefs and practices are unsupportable in either Old or New Testament narrative, and much of LDS practice & doctrine is downright blasphemous in the eyes of God.
Mitt Romney is an intelligent man in most regards. He has chosen to deny some elemental scriptural truths, and his soul cannot rest until he reconciles LDS error with our Lord Jesus Christ. Tax returns are not Mitt Romney's most serious challenge. This is the mother of Catch 22's; recanting means an existential unraveling for the largest religious cult in America. A bitter sauce indeed.
Hey, RSN if your're going to print likely bigoted opinion such as "our Lord Jesus Christ," then you have an obligation to print responses to the contrary, or stop asking for support.
As others have opined, I do think we should keep the pressure on dude to release his returns. Make him extremely uncomfortable, as he's made others. Afflict the comfortable...p araphrasing the quote. ;-)
1. he paid so little tax or stashed so much money that working stiffs would get angry
2. he has shortchanged the Church & fears THEIR anger
3. took amnesty in 2009 which would be a major black eye (really?, Rethugs should think this praisworthy0
4. PERHAPS he lied tovote in a Mass election when he had just built a mansion in CA..he was SUPPOSEDLY living in his son's basement in MAss. This would, ironically, be voter fraud & a felony.
Hound Mr. Romney, it is our civic duty.
No one can show that he has done anything wrong in terms of breaking any laws but he has made liberals unhappy which is a capital crime to a liberal. If you make a liberal unhappy you can they will hound you to the Gates of Hell. It's their civic duty. Can't imagine how vile things would be if the person had actually done something wrong.
And I'll give him some grudging respect if he apologizes to your president and mine for aiding and abetting the birther nonesense AND lying with every breath he takes. I'm nice like that. ;-)
What are you doing to do if you are wrong? would you admit it? From what I see in Republicans, as well as in many other people, it seems hard for people to say, "You know, I might be wrong." As if admitting a mistake was a crime.
The way I see it, when I become perfect, then I won't have to say that. Until then, I reserve the right to be human, and make mistakes. If I do it openly, at least then I can correct them.
It's lying about them, that doesn't allow people to make mistakes openly, and then change them.
And, as a school teacher once told me, if you can't make mistakes, what can you make?
And this. I believe only cowards lie. They may not be cowardly all the time, but at they time they are lying, they are afraid. Instead of man-ing up, and being responsible for their fear, they deny it, and continue the lie. (eg Paul Ryan)
I believe Romney and the Republicans are afraid, and they want us to be afraid. In fact, I think that is their intent behind every lie they tell. I don't know about you, but I don't trust those who want me to be afraid, and want to control my decisions by lying to me.
Again, what if you are wrong?
2. Tax amnesty in 2009?
3. Reveal how much he was paid to outsource American jobs?
4. Reveal how much he wrote off as expenses and what they were, i.e., legal or illegal? The Statute has run out for any year before 2009 and I'm sure he does not want to be audited for 2009, 2010, and 2011. IRS should audit NOW!
DON'T TRUST Mitt!
It is time they Audit every Politician, Lawyer,Doctor esp Research Departments
Sad that you would not want the truth from the ones who should be Investigating.
I would think that with all the ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE being bandied about on this board we have more than enough proof to give to the IRS & have them put Romney's ass in jail. It's our Patriotic Duty.
If the federal government isn't doing it's job - then whose fault it that? Apparently, the only reason Romney's taxes are an issue is because he used all the loopholes the assholes in Congress allowed and didn't have to claim the income as taxable. That doesn't make it illegal.
The IRS has the ability to internally audit anybody's tax forms and if you don't file they come after you if you are in the system. Are they doing their job?
Romney is probably uncomfortable showing people how much money he made busting up relatively good businesses and displacing thousands of employees...rui ning millions of American families. 84+ million Americans are unemployed...st opped looking for work. Depression meds are probably way up... Betcha Romney's got some pharmaceutical stocks, yeah?
Jack the way I found to be Patriotic was to spend time in the Tonkin Gulf during Nam and in the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea in the 80's. As far as your "Methodology" statement goes Jack, it's easy and something you and probably no other Repub or Teabagger has EVER done. Ready for it? Write a check for more than you owe and mail it in. Now in April you know how to show your Patriotism. Try it Jack then you too can know how it feels to be a true patriotic american.
This same problem exists in Congress - much too easy for insider trading there too. Now, if they all start cashing in their stocks there could be a run on the banks - so they are faced with how to protect their assets (bad investments) but it's at the expense of the American middle class.
The President is stuck - because what he has going in he can't touch while he's in office. So, who is he going to throw to the wolves? Right, likely nobody that's in his portfolio.
That is a very good point. It's not as though Republicans haven't called Democrats liars before.
Liberals love putting Palin down & she did have more than her share of shortcomings. However she had more than a blank page for a resume. Barry came to the table with nothing & has spent more than three years proving the blank page accurately reflected his capabilities.
R&R. Yes, it could refer to Romney - Ryan. I have no idea of your meaning with the rest & relaxation statement. The correct term is rest & recuperation. It is military leave for people in a combat zone that does not count against their annual leave time. It has no applicability in this context either.
You may view Romney & Ryan as being an empty ticket but consider your heroes - a blank resume & a political Barney Fife.
Why, yes Jack, just like Fox/Rush/etc say that the financial mess we are in is all Obama's fault. They just can't remember the 8 yrs of the Bush Admin that they were all so proud of that got us into this mess in the first place. Remember this truth if nothing else Jack, Bin Laden is dead and GM is very much alive, thanks to President Barack Hussein Obama. That is his name Jack, not "Barry".
Sometimes it's not so much the height one attains as it is the hole one has to crawl out of. Frist Romney left a hole for Clinton to crawl out of, which he did in 8 years, and then Bush left a deeper hole for Obama and the American people to crawl out of, and he is, I think, doing his best with the obstructionist house he was given.
Again, Jack, you may be somewhat right about some other things, but why are you ignoring the obivous? Aren't you picking and choosing what ideas you are offering. Are you afraid to admit you might be wrong? I think you certainly are about this, in any case.
She sure proved us wrong when she couldn't even remember all the sources of news she read.
As always, a stupid and factually incorrect post. Romney went to McCain and if he wasn't looking to be VP, he wouldn't have submitted his returns. Romney is outright scum and anyone who would vote for him is an ignorant fool.
Again, it is the poeple who can't admit they might be wrong who cannot change their minds. And what does that say about how afraid they are. Of course, they are going to respond to people in "power" who are telling them how afraid they should be.
"There is nothing we're hiding." Lightning Bolt struck her at this point.
"Have you seen how we are attacked? Have you seen what's happened?" We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us. But the more we release, the more we get attacked, the more we get questioned, the more we get pushed. And so we have done what's legally required, and there's going to be no more tax releases given." Lightning Bolt hits her again!
In other words, what the voters don't know, will get us into the White House! Yes Virginia, lightning DOES strike twice in the same place.
The Karpoman triangle is used to diagnose addictive and dysfunctional interactions between people. It looks like this:
victim
rescuer persecuter
Anytime you have blame involved with adults, you have a victim. Ms. Romney is saying they are the victims because we, the American people, want to get to the truth.
I heard on NPR that Mitt Romney is always looking to see where his wife is, wherever he goes. It seems highly likely that the two people are co-dependent, given the amount of blame they both want to place on people outside their circle, and outside their sphere of influence.
If they are afraid, what they want to do is control everyone outside their circle and sphere of influence. They certainly can't do it telling the truth.
So I would suggest that all journalists keep the pressure on at all times. Make it really unpleasant for both Romneys.
They may not reveal their taxes, but it could make some undecided voters think, that they DO have something to hide.
Something a president should NOT hide.
In my book it totally disqualifies him from the Presidency, that he is hiding his money in other countries, instead of investing in his own country.
He keeps insisting that he loves our country, but his actions belie his words.
HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN OUR COUNTRY, FOR HE IS BETTING AGAINST US WITH HIS MONEY.
In the bible it says, show me where your treasure is and i will show you where your heart is......And he takes a tax write off of 77.000 DOLLARS on his wife's half MILLION dollar horse.
You are what your ride a horse's ___
The only movement large enough that has not been dismantled (yet) by the Right is the Occupy Wall Street movement. Republican state governors are systematically taking apart the biggest unions. After they've gone, the people will have no collective voice to stand up to injustices.
It is okay to know if JeLo is marrying someone or having an affair but you do not want to know if Your Country is committing heinous crimes. Give me a break.
If you cannot afford like myself to monthly contribute, fine but do not use excuses like WikeLeaks We have not heard their full story
If it involves the ability of we, the people, to make betterdecisions about anything our country is doing, why is not a good thing.
Are you familiar with the concept GIGO - Garbage In, Garbage Out? Bad or no information, bad decisions. Good information, hopefully better decisions. Intelligent and concerned people will use the info to make better decisions.
The main concern I have with Republicans is that most of them seem to be in denial about what is going on. Perhaps because they are generally honest people, the assume their Republican leaders aren't lying to them, and slip back into a learned blind obedience.
Don´t vote Obama either!
How can you vote for someone who has
a kill list and has signed the
indefinite detention ???
And don´t talk about Congress, Obama
didn´t sign with a gun to his head.
Vote Green, Alternative, Third Party,
We need a totally new system with no
money in politics
What happens in other generations in other eras matters not to me but what happens now does. Keep asking that immoral twerp Romneybot to FESS up and make the press be relentless to see those tax returns for the American people to judge. He is hiding something that is for sure!
I would like to know what the Greens have done in 25 years to get my vote. I have seen them switch from one plan to another.
When they have a third of Congress and Senate come ask me to vote.
Thanks from the rest of us for condemning us to Mitt and the Nazis
'The New Reality' (please! I wish it weren't so):
'Rule of Law', and 'Reasonability' , is all but Dead!...
....for Law Makers, Law Enforcers, Politicians, and Lawyers.
Do you bother watching, any more , the Evening (NOT) News?
Speedboy, methinks you don't like this miserable wretch. But his wife said his "integrity is golden". She told reporter Robin Roberts, "We're not going to give YOU PEOPLE any more tax returns!" This arrogant woman also said, "It's our turn", as if the American TAXPAYER is supposed to allow them to waltz into the White House based on their word, which they want us to believe is beyond doubt.
WELL... I DOUBT IT!
I sure do wonder why he wont show his taxes? If hes innocent or has nothing to hide...then why not just show them and get it over with? Why does he get to with hold this information, when everyone else has to show theirs? I still can just imagine if Obama refused to show his taxes, all rationale would fly out the window and Fox news and the right wing loons would be going bonkers.
Mitt show us your taxes!! I dont think anyone should let up on him until he shows us what all presidential nominees show us...his taxes. Man up Mitt!
The intent in confrontation is to resolve conflicts, rather than avoid them. Avoidance changes nothing. It just allows the unethical and illegal to continue on its merry way.
Those who want to control the resolution of conflicts are not to be trusted. In avoiding the showing of his tax returns, Romney wants to control how this conflict is resolved. We must not let him control either this issue, or the other lies he wants to lay on the public. We must confront them everytime we can.
As you saw, I advocate to hound him till he CRACKS.
Very likely he has NOT done anything ILLEGAL. And that is the infuriating aspect of it. Very wealthy people can get away with paying VERY little tax. So little that we would all be MAD AS HELL.
And THAT is why he does NOT want us to know.
Right on Mr. Gibson!
That's what I call REAL Entitlement. Time for the press to begin pressing this issue. I wholeheartedly agree with the article.
I believe they might be the flag over the Chinese Embassy?
I think it is time he does what is to be done ...get those taxes to the Board for Review as every other American Candidate has done. Hell, the Bush's did it talk about write offs They had Cheney as a write off. probably vice versa.
To all the mealy mouths of this third party nonsense. You are worse than any Republican that shows up on blogs. At least they have a good reason to vote for the Nazis. I have watched the shame of not putting John Meyers, an Independent in. I have known members of third parties of every name there is. Trouble is they have no long standing. They have no lobby power. Greens have shifted in the 25 years plus so many stances that until they have at least a third of the seats from State to DC It is not going to help the USA
Greens should be helping us get the Pres on the right track instead of wasting millions.
I am against all Contributions to Politics. Do you all of you realize how much could be done on the money this year alone for America, Economy, with this waste? Greens are just as much part of the waste of money
Want to know why middle class is tired, do not want to vote. Elections, you spend more money on one candidate whether state or federal that they will ever see in their lifetime.
We have had bad enough time in almost 4 years with two Congresses. I do not see either any better than the other.
Vote them out, bring in new, good blood.
But if you are handing me over to a Nazi Inferno of insufferable Religious Cult and Slavery Government Do not bother making the Oil Companies rich by voting at all. You insult The Poor, and Middle Class. You are no better than a Republican.
On a better note, leaving the snivelers where they stand. How about a Petition to demand the Romney's Taxes are put in front of the Board of IRS, Media for them to review. I know there is a panel that is supposed to review four years of taxes of the Candidate.
We have the right to Petition. There are a number of Sites that do petitions and help you to do so.
I will look up one...then I will see where the rest of you really stand.
Liked the article here, by the way!
Here's a story direct from The Orwell 'NOW-AMERICA' Vision Center.
Date: 2012.
In Deregulated Global Corporate America, almost all Media Enterprises are owned and exploited by a very few Global Corporations. All of which, are beholden to their Super Wealthy Global Shareholders-- a.k.a. The Global Domineeros.
From their awesome, fearsome giant Media Wall of Sound-Biting comes a Ranting Buzz that crosses brain barriers as easily as crossing ones fingers.
An all pervasive, penetrating 'Propaganda 24/7' is ranted forth from The Cardboard Cutout legions of Corpo-Media's Super-Wealthy Talking Heads of Foisterisms and Smarmy Charms.
The Story Unfolds.
Corpo-Dominated America's National Divide appears galvanized, entrenched and unmovable.
The protagonist, Romney, is under pressure for having paid zero taxes for100 years while also claiming tax rebates illegally to the tune of million$.
He stands alone on a dark bridge as a windy storm pours sleet and freezing rain. His hair and smile remain perfect as he shouts-- 'If Only there was Less Government!'
Suddenly, dawn cracks. The sun brightly spills over the horizon. Blue birds sing. Millions wave flags and cheer. Because 'THIS' is the Corpo-Story of MITT, the anti-evil-big-g overnment True American Hero in-- 'ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE' starring jimmy MITT ROMNEY stewart.
Excerpted from the Blog:
"Don't Just Stand There. Do Something"
http://www.dontjuststand.com/
http://www.dontjuststand.com/
Hidden tax returns.
Excessive unexplained balances in an IRA account.
Favor money in exchange for SuperPac Attack Ads.
Secret economic plans to create jobs and produce tax cuts for the rich.
Campaign lies.
That is the story of the Vulture/Voucher campaign.
Now I hear Romney wants to enlarge the military. What war might he want to get us in, so we don't think about such things as tax returns, breaks for the rich, ending medicare, and who knows what else.
Iran ...?
Romeny thinks he shouldn't have to expose himself with regard to tax returns because he is "special". He is an unctuous sleaze ball. The thought of him as president sends chills down my spine.Ryan even more so, there are things about Ryan that make me think Goebbles. If he lie often enough people will start to believe him, some already do.
Or the likes of the Koch Brothers. As POTUS Mr. Romney will be the steward of these assets. He will have tremendous de facto power to influence the sale or franchising of these public assets to various business interests. Therefore he must have unquestioned integrity. The Bain business model and dealings exposed here indicate some very questionable business ethics on Romney's part. But the fact that he won't make full and complete disclosure of his tax returns --- in
itself --- basically rules Mr. Romney out as a serious candidate to be our POTUS. Romney's various arguments as to why he won't release this information are irrelevant. Frankly --- as POTUS and the "decider in chief" --- Romney could do incredible damage to the value of these public assets. Now more than ever I want to see those tax returns.
If McCain knows that Romney committed a felony income tax evasion, then McCain should be thrown out of the Senate when the facts surface.
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