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"There's good reason why the Right is terrified of a Second Term Obama because that is exactly what they think he'll do: the real Obama will appear and take us down the road to social justice and tolerance and a leveling of the economic playing field."

Portrait, Michael Moore, 04/03/09. (photo: Ann-Christine Poujoulat/Getty)
Portrait, Michael Moore, 04/03/09. (photo: Ann-Christine Poujoulat/Getty)



How to Prevent "President Romney"

By Michael Moore, Open Mike Blog

07 September 12

 

n two months we Americans will go to the polls once again to decide who the president will be for the next four years. We will not be allowed to vote on those who wield the true power in this country. On November 6th we will not vote for the chairman of ExxonMobil or JPMorgan Chase or Citibank or the Premier of China. That day will come, but not this year.

Now, I know there are a goodly number of you out there who believe there's not a snowball's chance in Kenya that Barack Obama will not be re-elected to the White House. And why would you believe otherwise? After the incredible Democratic convention this week, with the best rock-em-sock-em speeches I've heard from a Democrat's mouth since … since, I don't know when. You can't help but not have a contact high after this past week if you are of the sort who believes in economic justice, peace, and a five-dollar latte. Right now, with the buzz on, you are sitting there thinking that your fellow Americans will turn out in massive numbers, either because they want to continue the Obama era or because they're scared shitless of the barbarians at the gate - or both. You're convinced that the Republicans have blown it with all their talk of the lady parts they want to control even though we now know that they have no idea where those parts are, what they are, or how they work.

Yes, it certainly looks like the voters will reject this obscenely wealthy man called Romney — Romney of Michigan/Massachusetts/New Hampshire/Utah/Zurich/Grand Cayman — this man who will not explain exactly how all his wealth was obtained, where he keeps it, or how much taxes he pays on it. He wants to turn the clock back to the '50s - the 1850s - and he refuses to offer any specific plan about what he'll do about anything. He wants to run the country like a corporation but he can't even control one 82-year-old actor on his own convention stage, a Hollywood legend who, in the matter of ten and a half minutes went from Good (walking onto the stage) to Bad (talking to a chair) and then to Ugly (the chair started … swearing?). It was better than the best cat-flushing-the-toilet video on YouTube and it was a gift to all of us who know that Romney is doomed come November.

Or is he?

Last week, I said on the HuffPost Live webcast that we had all better start practicing how to say "President Romney" because, living in Michigan, I can tell you that there's trouble here on the two peninsulas and it's not just because Romney is a native son or that we like to watch kids from Cranbrook chase down gay kids and chop their hair off. One recent poll here showed Romney leading Obama by four points! How can that be? Didn't Obama save Detroit?

No, he didn't. He saved General Motors and Chrysler. "Detroit" (and Flint and Pontiac and Saginaw) are not defined by the global corporations who suck our towns dry and then split town to make more money elsewhere (except, of course, they continued to design and built crap cars, so eventually they didn't make the money at all). These cities in Michigan are about the people who live here, and in the process of "saving Detroit," Mr. Obama had to fire thousands of these people, and reduce the benefits and pensions of those who were left. There's a lot of pissed off people in Michigan (and Wisconsin and Ohio), people who weren't saved even though the corporation was. I'm just stating a fact, and those of you who don't live here should know this.

The other problem facing us this election (spoiler alert - angry white guys may want to stop reading right now) … is race. We all fear there's probably a good 40% of the country who simply do not want a black man in the Oval Office. In fact, in 2008, Obama lost the white vote. He lost every white age group except young people (18-29). And yet he still won by 10 million votes! The optimistic secret the Obama people know is that only about 70% of the voters in November will be white. So if he can win just 35-40% of them, and then get a massive majority of people of color, he can win re-election. There is no question in my mind that Obama is more popular than Romney and if everyone could vote from their couch like they do for American Idol, Obama would win hands down. As I have said before, we live in a liberal country. The majority of Americans (who do not call themselves "liberal") now support most of the liberal agenda - they're for gay marriage, they're pro-choice, they're anti-war, they believe there's global warming, and they hate Wall Street for what it has done to them and their neighbors. The Republicans know this: that we, the majority, will have sex when we want and with whom we want, will read and watch whatever we want when we want, will use marijuana if we want and if we don't want to then we certainly don't want our friends who do to be throw into prison. We are sick and tired of being poisoned, by chemicals or propaganda, we think the Palestinians have been given a raw deal and we want our friggin' jobs back! The Christian Right (and their Wall Street funders) know this all too well - America has turned, and there's no going back to not loving someone because of the color of their skin or expecting women to cede control of their bodies to a bunch of Neanderthals. So, what's a Rightie to do now that we've turned the joint into Sodom and G? They have to suppress the vote! They have to stop as many liberals from voting as possible. So they've passed many voter suppression laws to make it hard for the poor, the minorities, the disabled and students to vote. They honestly believe they can pull this off - and they just may. The only "positive" thing about this is that their need to have such laws in order to win the election is an admission on the part of the Republicans that they know the U.S. Is a liberal country and that the only way they can now win now is to cheat. Trust me, if they believed that America was a right-wing country they'd be passing laws making it so easy to vote you could do it in the checkout line at Walmart.

But the voting on November 6th will not take place at Walmart or on any potato's couch. It can only happen by going to a polling place - and, not to state the obvious, the side that gets the most people physically out to the polls that day, wins. We know the Republicans are spending tens of millions of dollars to make sure this very thing happens. They have built a colossal get-out-the-vote machine for election day, and the sheer force of their tsunami of hate stands ready to overwhelm us like nothing we've ever seen before. Those of us in the Midwest got a taste of it in 2008. Traditionally Democratic states - all of which voted for Obama - saw our state legislatures and governor seats hijacked by this well-oiled machine. We didn't know what hit us, but these new Republicans wasted no time in dismantling some of the very basic thing we hold dear. Wisconsin fought back - but even that huge grassroots uprising was not enough to stop the governor bought and paid for by the Koch brothers. It was a wake up call, for sure - but have we really woken up?

It's been a great week in Charlotte, and I'm getting ready now to watch Barack Obama give his speech. It's OK for us to take a couple days to high-five each other, but I cannot stress enough to you that unless you and I are doing something every day for the next 60 days to get people out to vote, then there is a chance we will all be saying "President Romney" come January. Don't think it can't happen. Hate, sad to say, at least in America these days, is a far greater motivator than love and feelin' groovy.

For those of us who believe that the history of the Democrats and the Republicans is to do the bidding of the 1% (Obama's #1 private contributor in '08 were the people at Goldman Sachs), and that while the Dems are a kinder/gentler bunch, they are also just as quick to want to take us to war and sell us out to the corporate interests (and, yes, Obamacare is a $$ gift to the insurance companies; only a single-payer system will stop that), this election is a bit of a bitter pill. We were hugely disappointed when President Obama didn't charge out of the gate after his inauguration and undo the damage that had been done (as FDR did in his first hundred days) - and only when Wall Street stopped writing him the big campaign checks this past year did he get his mojo back and start fighting the fight that needs to be fought. He's a good and decent person (when he's not sending in drones to kill Pakistani civilians or prosecuting government whistleblowers), and his election four years ago was a high point of such emotional intensity I just couldn't get over how hopeful I was that this country had changed and we had found our moral footing. Reality set in a few weeks later when he put Tim Geithner and Larry Summers in charge of economic policy and then he changed his mind about closing Gitmo.

OK, so people like me, just once in our lifetime, would like to get our way all the time! Is that too much to ask? Of course, there is a different question that is in the air now — shall we give the country back to the crowd who gave the country to the 1%? I think not. So let's join in with our liberal majority and be fierce and relentless in these next two months. Let's spend this time educating people what we mean when we say things like "single-payer" and "Blackwater." Politics and the fate of the nation (and the world - sorry, world) are on the front burner and those of us who want to wrestle control of our society out of the hands of the few can take healthy advantage of these coming weeks. Don't sit it out. Don't try to convince anyone Obama has magically transformed us - just tell them four years is simply not enough time to undo all the hurt caused by biggest economic crash since the Great Depression and the biggest military blunder/lie in our history.

I'm going to go with my optimistic side here (sorry, cynics, you know I love you) and imagine a Second Term Obama (and a Democratically-controlled Congress) who will go after all the good that our people deserve and put the power of our democracy back in our hands. There's good reason why the Right is terrified of a Second Term Obama because that is exactly what they think he'll do: the real Obama will appear and take us down the road to social justice and tolerance and a leveling of the economic playing field. For once, I'd like to say I agree with the Right - and I sincerely hope their worst nightmare does come true.

 

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+71 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 08:40
Mr. Moore,

in general this is a good piece and you make a good case but what possessed you to write in reference to the rescue of the auto industry that "Mr. Obama had to fire thousands of these people, and reduce the benefits and pensions of those who were left"? Is that "had to" as in "he did" or as in "he had no choice"? The former is simply a statement of fact but the latter (if this is what you meant) says he had no other options. This line i would reject wholeheartedly and would expect that you would to.

Also, why no discussion of the "strategic voting" tactic that other progressives have been calling for i.e., that in states such as NY or Cal. where the election is not in doubt (i.e., the dems are a shoe-in) that progressives need to organize and vote strategically for the same progressive alternative (e.g., the Green Party) to begin to develop some real influence and leverage over the party as a whole (as the old "Liberal Party" used to be in races in NYC).

While i agree that we need to reelect Obama to stave off the frightening prospect of a republican white house and congress, at the same time we need to continue to talk and stragegize how to create a real progressive alternative and we need to learn how to talk about both at the same time.
 
 
+37 # Barbara K 2012-09-07 08:58
decon: I don't get it either. The President of the USA didn't fire anybody in any of the Auto Industries. Was he talking about the President of the Auto Industries?
 
 
+9 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 09:57
Quoting Barbara K:
decon: I don't get it either. The President of the USA didn't fire anybody in any of the Auto Industries. Was he talking about the President of the Auto Industries?


Barbara,

i took it to mean that as part of the auto "rescue/bailout " that the UAW was again "asked" (more like forced) to give more givebacks including cutting jobs. Unfortunately, the UAW has for years essentially been "selling out" future workers to protect whatever current workers get. You'd have thought they would have learned by now that this was disasterous for their memebership as a whole. My point was that I don't believe Obama should have pushed for any more givebacks from the workers and that if the companies refused then take them over like they did with AIG and then turn the companies over to the workers as worker-owned cooperatives. That would have been truly visionary. Unfortunately, Obama can give an "inspirational" speach but is far from a visonary leader (just compare his speaches with those of FDR or even his Republican Brother Teddy whose speaches against the Trusts of his day are remarkable and show what a President can say and do).
 
 
+13 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 12:57
I think we better regroup here...a most of the workers didn't take raises of pay hikes so let's not get into that. My spouse is Union and believe me, he gets benefit help not raises.
OB didn't push, The Corporate Heads didn't want to give up their bonuses and salaries or raises...they make a lot more than any one worker.
People if you review history always get laid off. It was what Unions had known would happen, company breaths, gets orders and workers are called back. Look at Mack Truck who left Lehigh Valley...then years later came back. It has been happening for decades. I believe the Wars were some of only time workers were on count at all times due to government contracts.
So people got laid off, when push came to shove, they got hired back. Some found other jobs. Also happens.
Look at all speeches, heck their are seminars on speech giving, Clinton is one of the best students.

Worker owned cooperatives might work now but under W they went down the tubes to China.

Jobs...ReaGun and Bush Sr sold us out, then Clinton signed the NAFTA and the next two continue it....Want jobs here...tarrifs on foreign imports. Imports must be up to our Regulations not unregulated...( Lead)

OB should have taken out Wall Street And Banks Big Business has been dealing with problems forever I know. The other two are getting way too big for their britches
 
 
+55 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 10:02
The problem with "strategic voting", is that it lends an appearance that President Obama doesn't have a strong mandate to lead. That was used against President Clinton in his first term. Since he won, the repugs did what they always do, and used anything they could think of against him. One of those tactics was to say he didn't really have a mandate to lead because he didn't win enough of the popular vote. Naturally, there was no mention of "mandate" once bush "won" after LOSING the popular vote.

Still, if we want Obama to get something done we need to show that he has wide support. Voting for a 3rd party candidate won't do that.

I understand the idea of "strategic" voting, but I think it's bad strategy.
 
 
+17 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 11:15
Billy Bob, There was no real concerted "strategic voting" effort during either one of Clinton's elections at least not in New York where i'm from. But, in New York, we did have the Liberal Party which was able to exert a fair amount of influence because it was not committted to either party but rather to principles (not necessarily mine but that's not the point) and so each party had to seriously court them to win. This is what progressives need to do and this is the point of strategic voting. Frankly, i don't care whether Obama has a "mandate" or not since he has never shown that if he did it would be a genuinely progressive one. Rather, i want him to win but along with that want there to be a mass movement out there that scares the shit out of the ruling class in this country which is the only time we have ever gotten any meaningful change. In the meantime, progressives at least have to show the dems they have the numbers and thus the clout (at least in places like ny and ca where there are enough electoral votes to make them scared) to extract some real progressive commitments from the spineless democrats who have already betrayed almost all of their "old school" liberal principles.
 
 
+14 # Art947 2012-09-07 15:11
The Liberal Party in New York gained its strength from cross-endorsing candidates. When the margin of victory of these candidates was the number of votes that they received on the Liberal line on our ballot, they proved the strength that they had. Politicians sat up and took notice. Taking away votes from the candidate that you want to win helps neither the candidate nor the message! Once again, build our program via progressives elected to state offices, make sure that the message they espouse gets amplified, and convince additional candidates to join our causes.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 12:58
That includes his own party...Support
 
 
+15 # Art947 2012-09-07 15:05
[quote name="dkonstruction"]

Also, why no discussion of the "strategic voting" tactic that other progressives have been calling for i.e., that in states such as NY or Cal. where the election is not in doubt (i.e., the dems are a shoe-in) that progressives need to organize and vote strategically for the same progressive alternative (e.g., the Green Party) to begin to develop some real influence and leverage over the party as a whole (as the old "Liberal Party" used to be in races in NYC).

It is a dangerous slope when you think that you can project the "split" in the vote and suggest to make a symbolic statement by voting for another group. It would be better to build a grassroots organizaation and elect Progressives, members of the Green Party, members of the Working Family Party, etc. at the local level (i.e. state offices) to create a power base that can be a force for the things we want. This is actually the message of hope and change that Barack Obama projected as a candidate in 2008. WE need to work to create a groundswell of people who support our positions and working with these people DEMAND the change that we require. Notice what the republicans are doing at the state level throughout America. They are winning these battles and making it harder for us to win the war.
 
 
+125 # LeeBlack 2012-09-07 08:41
Romney's slogan of "Take the Country Back" is code for many people of "back away from a black person."

Many people are saying that Obama's reelection won't break the partisan deadlock but I disagree. A reelection would indicate that the Republican no compromise attitude isn't working.
 
 
-90 # jtatu 2012-09-07 09:55
Did you know that not all white people who oppose Barak Obama's policies and agenda to fundamentally change this country are motivated by race. It is the left that is constantly playing the race card. I for one do not believe being black is an exemption from criticism.
 
 
+100 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 11:14
Did you know that President Obama has faced more death threats than all previous Presidents combined? Did you know they started as soon as he announced his candidacy? The only "exemption" a black President could have from right-wing "criticism" would be if he were bullet proof.

By the way, it is the right that wants to make sure minorities don't vote. It is the right that is scared by pat buchanan's threats that we're facing the "end of white supremacy" in America.

It is the right that wants to accuse a Baptist American citizen of being a Muslim from Kenya and that he somehow "doesn't deserve" the Presidency.

It's the right that refers to the black guy in the White House as a "street thug".

What evidence does the right have to support ANY of those accusations other than the color of his skin?

Did you know that many of us on the left are white also and we're listening when right-wingers talk about minorities. We know how right-wingers talk when they don't think any minorities are listening. Sorry to reveal that "well-kept" secret, but it's pretty widely known. We don't need to read about it. Most of us liberal whiteys have first hand experience listening to it.

The code words are only used in public.

By the way, misspelling the President's first name isn't a very affective political strategy.
 
 
-27 # jtatu 2012-09-07 12:34
Neither is mispelling "effective."
Sure there are some loonies on the right. There are some on the left too. And Moore is definitely one of the crazy hate-mongers. We should all be sorry about that. Do you believe all white people who disagree with Obama are racist?
 
 
+9 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-09 18:06
Moore a crazy hate monger? Really? More so than say Rush Limbaugh? On the scale of 1 to 10...

I am very very very disappointed in Obama but he was plenty criticized by the left during the primaries so we did know. However, like others we did vote for both hope and change which the country and its people sorely need.

We still need it but Romney will give us a change that is far more terrible to contemplate.
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:02
White Supremacy is oxy moron in itself.

I believe the reason the Stadium wasn't used Thursday was a death threat disguised as Muslim.
 
 
-54 # jtatu 2012-09-07 15:08
I'll try this again, Billy Bob.
Both the right and the left are stuck with loony and dangerous extremists. Michael Moore is certainly one.
Do you think all white people that disagree with Obama are racists?
And by the way, misspelling "effective" isn't a very effective political strategy.
 
 
+20 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 17:19
You failed again.

af·fec·tive (-fktv)
adj. Psychology
1. Influenced by or resulting from the emotions.
2. Concerned with or arousing feelings or emotions; emotional.

Look it up for yourself: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/affective

Nice try.
 
 
-7 # jtatu 2012-09-07 17:52
Sorry, my mistake. I assumed you were referring to reason. I see now that appealing to emotions is what you were referring to. Thanks for the clarification.
 
 
+5 # unitedwestand 2012-09-10 01:54
You trying to correct Billy Bob over such an insignificant thing just proves how petty you and yours are. You are wrong about everything else and then you go, NAH,NAH,NAH and you were WRONG AGAIN. I'll give you this much, at least you apologized.

Michael Moore has done so much to try to help ALL of us, including you. His movies have been enlightening, revealing, funny and right on the mark. Do yourself a favor and watch several of them in a row and notice that there is no evil intent towards anyone, except to bust the real criminals that have made such a mess of our country. Gun manufacturers, auto industry CEO's and their greed, health insurance companies, and yes, bad politicians.

Notice, how Michael does not shy away from criticizing Obama as well, as he wants him to do better. I have a feeling that the things Michael criticizes Obama for, you probably like just fine. I also have a feeling that even though you must realize that Romney is worthy of wearing a dunce cap, you will vote for him, just to vote against the other guy who people like you have demonized almost to death.

With all due respects. :)
 
 
0 # jtatu 2012-09-12 16:34
Sure, Dude. Check out Billy Bob's opening remark about my misspelling Barry's first name for an example of "petty."
 
 
+29 # bingers 2012-09-08 01:42
Michael Moore is neither loony nor dangerous unless you mean dangerous to the continuance of ignorance.

The dangerous loons are all right wingers.
 
 
+6 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-09 18:08
So what exactly are some of the GOPers like that Akin guy and Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? How about those ? Michael Moore is pretty moderate really, to my way of thinking.
 
 
+5 # bingers 2012-09-08 01:48
Thunderstorms were predicted and you don't expose your followers to lightning. Not when you know what the unloyal opposition would blame you for if lightning did indeed strike.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:00
Your right, the others do not have the brains to read.

I do not believe being a minister, preacher, Politician is an exemption from being criticized. In fact I believe they should be more so since they chose to lead
 
 
+30 # Art947 2012-09-07 15:15
Quoting jtatu:
Did you know that not all white people who oppose Barak Obama's policies and agenda to fundamentally change this country are motivated by race. It is the left that is constantly playing the race card. I for one do not believe being black is an exemption from criticism.


It is strange that those who constantly oppose the President's programs have NEVER provided an alternative one, or have agreed to build a program together. It used to be said that elections have consequences. That he who gets the most votes in a Presidential campaign deserves the chance to implement the program that was proposed. Why does this policy NOT apply to Republicans when they lose the majority status?

BTW, I am "white" and I can easily discern the racist nature of the comments that have been used against our President. Why can't you?
 
 
+29 # genierae 2012-09-07 17:12
These Republicans are the most dangerous threat this country has ever faced, and if we allow them to steal this election, they will trash every social program that Democrats have created. I am not joking when I say that these GOPers are insane, they belong in a mental institution, and instead they are representing millions of us across this nation. We are in deep trouble if Obama loses.
 
 
+18 # Regina 2012-09-07 21:35
They will trash more than "every social program" -- they will trash every segment of our still-democrati c system (I mean that small d -- it's not a typo). They're well on the way to wrecking the voting system, the better to steal elections with. With Republican appointees to the Supreme Court in that majority, our elections are swamped in Republican big money, now labeled "freedom of speech." Republicans are well along in their zeal to dismantle public education, as well as public services -- just look at the states where Republicans have won governors' elections.If they succeed in stealing this election for their stooge Romney and their flack Ryan, a lot of us will not live to see the recovery.
 
 
+10 # genierae 2012-09-08 08:53
Amen, Regina.
 
 
-21 # jtatu 2012-09-07 17:12
Maybe it's because I do not believe being black exempts one from criticism.
 
 
+19 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 17:57
Or death threats and slander, right?
 
 
-1 # jtatu 2012-09-09 13:22
You are way out of line and have no excuse for being so obnoxious. I know a lot of people that agree with me on politics, economics, social justice and a lot of other things. None of them are even capable of "death threats and slander." Disagreement and crticism do not justify death threats and slander but they surely justify speaking out and saying so no matter the color of anyone's skin. For that matter, you don't know the color of my skin. We should all be exempt from death threats and slander.
 
 
+1 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-09 18:12
Good and Evil are Equal Opportunity Employers.
 
 
+2 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-09 18:11
Hello-I'm very critical of Obama-I call him 'ObombO' in my memoirs-I think drone warfare is a crime against humanity. So was the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. Bush and Cheney should be tried along with Blair. Now about Rush Limbaugh and Todd Akin and Jan Brewer and Michelle Bachmann...
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 17:21
Your comments have been a breath of fresh air to this discussion. Thank you!

The reason you can see racism for what it is and other whites can't is because the label "racist" doesn't hit a little too close to home for you. As usual, the right-wingers offended by the accusation are really just frustrated that people can see through their agenda.
 
 
+4 # bingers 2012-09-08 01:43
Amen!!!!!!
 
 
+6 # bingers 2012-09-08 01:38
Quoting jtatu:
Did you know that not all white people who oppose Barak Obama's policies and agenda to fundamentally change this country are motivated by race. It is the left that is constantly playing the race card. I for one do not believe being black is an exemption from criticism.


You're right, studies have shown that only 25% of Republicans are racists. Not an overwhelming endorsement of your views, and answering racists is not racism. Your side encompasses racism as official policy.
 
 
-97 # Dumbledorf 2012-09-07 08:59
Michael Moore writes: "There's good reason why the Right is terrified of a Second Term Obama because that is exactly what they think he'll do: the real Obama will appear and take us down the road to social justice and tolerance and a leveling of the economic playing field."

IN YOUR DREAMS, MICHAEL....NOT REALITY!
We don't even know who Obama is or what he really represents after 4 years??? Wall-street? International Bankers? Certainly not We, The People!

If this man isn't the genuine, real deal after 4 years in office he's never going to be...
 
 
+23 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 10:00
Quoting Dumbledorf:
Michael Moore writes: "There's good reason why the Right is terrified of a Second Term Obama because that is exactly what they think he'll do: the real Obama will appear and take us down the road to social justice and tolerance and a leveling of the economic playing field."

IN YOUR DREAMS, MICHAEL....NOT REALITY!
We don't even know who Obama is or what he really represents after 4 years??? Wall-street? International Bankers? Certainly not We, The People!

If this man isn't the genuine, real deal after 4 years in office he's never going to be...


Dumbledorf, i agree with your take on Obama but for me the point is that it has always been this way and the only time we have gotten any meaningful and substantive progressive change in this country is when the working class, the people, the 99% or however you want to put it, are organized and in sufficient numbers to scare the hell out of the ruling class, 1% or whatever such that they are forced to implement meaningful reform (whether it was ending slavery, the civil rights movement, women's suffrage, the workers movement in the 30s that led to the New Deal, etc). Progressives have to learn not to put any "faith" in politicians (no matter who they are) and realize it is about power. without numbers, organization and radical tactics we have no power and without it it doesn't matter who's in power we won't get the change we want
 
 
+10 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 10:16
Who do you plan to vote for instead, and why?
 
 
-46 # HowardMH 2012-09-07 10:30
Dumbledorf,

I'm inclined to agree with you about Obama the Wimp. I will be shocked if he changes his stripes or spots and actually does what needs to be done. I don't think he has the stones to do it.
 
 
+15 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:07
I believe he would do more, put bigger curtailment on if he had backing in House and Senate.
That is up to us to do.

I do not believe the RNR Group is pro America, the America I stand for
 
 
-140 # Robt Eagle 2012-09-07 10:39
Obama is so dangerous to America. Obama will turn social give aways into control over the poor and needy at the destruction of our fiscal security. Also, by taxing everyone, yes everyone, Obama will destroy our great country...is that his plan? You betcha!!! Obama is out to ruin america, why? Go figure it out! Obama uses Eric Holder to prevent any one from taking Obama to task as he uses Executive order to circumvent the Congress and violate the US Constitution. Holder is the sherrif who should be safeguarding the Constitution, yet he sues states that wish to prevent voter fraud. Everyone needs ID to buy things or exist in the US, but it is ok to vote with no ID proving you are a citizen? Wake up liberals, you are about to get what you don't want...governme nt total control under another four years of Obama and his henchmen.
 
 
-38 # Antemedius 2012-09-07 11:07
Yep. Another George Bush. Only better.

He's far, far and away better than Bush or any republican could ever be.

No republican could ever hope to have put over all the con jobs on people that Obama has managed to put over on them and still have them cheering and believing they'd supported something even remotely progressive or good for them.

But no one likes to admit they were taken to the cleaners by a skilled con artist, so they'll hand over their money again, and they'll vote for him again.

Maybe someday they'll realize that the two party con job is the biggest lie there is.

Maybe... but not likely.
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:09
Republicans .... got me sick typing that word.

never met a Politician or Lawyer in Politics that do not lie...but rather have OB that RNR
 
 
-25 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 11:45
Quoting Robt Eagle:
Obama is so dangerous to America. Obama will turn social give aways into control over the poor and needy at the destruction of our fiscal security. Also, by taxing everyone, yes everyone, Obama will destroy our great country...is that his plan? You betcha!!! Obama is out to ruin america, why? Go figure it out! Obama uses Eric Holder to prevent any one from taking Obama to task as he uses Executive order to circumvent the Congress and violate the US Constitution. Holder is the sherrif who should be safeguarding the Constitution, yet he sues states that wish to prevent voter fraud. Everyone needs ID to buy things or exist in the US, but it is ok to vote with no ID proving you are a citizen? Wake up liberals, you are about to get what you don't want...government total control under another four years of Obama and his henchmen.


what about his henchwomen?
 
 
+2 # ericsongs 2012-09-08 04:20
Sarcasm?
 
 
+25 # CAMUS1111 2012-09-07 11:54
Eeagles have bird brains as cearly demnostrated by "Robt." A reactionary fool for all seasons.
 
 
+53 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-09-07 12:13
I really like Conservatives like yourself. Why? Earl Nightengale once made the comment, "the only thing about a man is his brain, everything else you can find in a pig or a horse." That is why I'm a liberal. I have a brain, most Conservatives do not or they do not use their brain. They are filled with hatred. Robt did not use one word that is stuck in his throat. He can not say the word. His lips are drooling to say the word. Obama according to Robt is "Dangerous, destruction of our fiscal security, taxing everyone, ruin America, government total control, etc, etc." But, he cannot come out and say the "N" word. He uses the above code words. Go ahead Robt, say the word. Doing an abnormal act will "make you feel better."
 
 
+20 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 14:36
Perfect reply.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:07
So are you, and I wish you could go off and live with all your buddies. I think you would all kill each other withing a year.
 
 
+16 # dovelane1 2012-09-07 23:30
Mr. Eagle wants us to be afraid. One should never be afraid. Concerned, perhaps, but not afraid. I don't trust anyone who wants me to be afraid. What they are asking me to do is stop thinking, and starting reacting the same way they are, in the same manner, and to the same degree.

I believe that is what the Republicans want, and what they hope to achieve with their lies. It is important to remember this:

Only cowards lie.

Romney and Ryan lie because they are afraid. What are they afraid of? Could it be the loss of power? The loss of face? The loss of privilege and entitlement? Could it be they take the loss of these things personally?

Many people lie so as to control people and their reactions and decisions. It's been written that if you want to control people, you must first make them afraid.

So, what is the Republican agenda, if it is not to make we, the people, afraid?

I choose to be aware rather than afraid. If I am afraid, I lose the ability to think rationally. The more fear, the less rational I can be.

If the Republicans, and Mr. Eagle can make us fear, we will not think rationally. Above all, I believe thinking rationally is the most important thing we, the people, need to do. In order to do that, we must face whatever fears we are aware of, and go through them.

Courage is the fleeing forward.
 
 
+1 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-09 18:15
Right on Dovelane1
 
 
+19 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-09-07 11:00
I have to agree with so much of what you have said. Yet, look at the alternative. "Playing" with women's intimate parts. Corporate raiding. Hang on to your "duff," Social Security, Medicare, el dumpo. List goes on and on and on. Don't forget deregulation.
 
 
+30 # LeeBlack 2012-09-07 12:39
If Wall Street and the Bankers were treated so well by Obama why are they investing (and I do mean invest) so much money to defeat him?
 
 
+18 # Art947 2012-09-07 15:23
Quoting LeeBlack:
If Wall Street and the Bankers were treated so well by Obama why are they investing (and I do mean invest) so much money to defeat him?

This is an interesting question. The numbers clearly indicate that investors on Wall Street do better under Democratic presidents (Barack Obama included). Bill Clinton clearly provided other statistics concerning the economic history of the US under Democrats and Republicans as well. Perhaps it is a question of power. Under a Republican Administration ALL safeguards will be off (consider the new consumer protection agency that Elizabeth Warren proposed and developed) and these "cahmpions" of economic freedom will be able to steal even more wealth from the average American citizen. Isn't one of the R/R teams plans to privatize Social Security and provide this as a slush fund to Wall Street?
 
 
+21 # genierae 2012-09-07 17:23
LeeBlack, he's a black man, and he called them Wall St. "fat cats", that's all they needed to hear to fire up their racist hatred. Any black man who has the nerve to speak up to white elitists has earned their undying contempt. But he's also smarter than most of them, and they won't forgive him for that. Bravo Obama! Keep up the good work! You make them all look like juvenile rich kids who never matured past high school.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:05
True of anyone...how many of us know who we are.

I know what I felt when he had a good roll goin on then said gas beneath us...I saw flames rising out of a families home.

I heard word oil riggings. But I know that there is a chance he would make them tow the line where as, the GOP wouldn't. I gave you thumbs up but then must be a diebold working here

I am voting OB
 
 
+62 # beatdok 2012-09-07 09:33
So agree with you Michael. Joined RSN just now to say so. Obama's second term is when he is going to take the gloves off and show us his unrelenting passion for justice. I am all in!
 
 
+19 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 10:09
Quoting beatdok:
So agree with you Michael. Joined RSN just now to say so. Obama's second term is when he is going to take the gloves off and show us his unrelenting passion for justice. I am all in!


beatdok, on what basis do you make such a claim about Obama's second term? No president has ever done this without a mass movement out in the streets that has scared the hell out of the ruling class (or 1% if you prefer). FDR was elected as a moderate democrat and it was only a mass radical workers movement that gave us the New Deal. It was only the civil rights movement that gave us the Voting Rights Act and the landmark Supreme Court decisions such as Brown (and this was from a conservative Supreme Court)...instea d of pinning their "hopes" on Obama we need to be organizing and calling for mass demonstrations and civil disobedience that would give Obama the political "cover" he needs to then push for a more progressive agenda. Hope won't do it. A mass movement at least has a shot at making it so.
 
 
+4 # dovelane1 2012-09-07 22:27
dkon - You could be correct. So many politicians seem to worry so much about being re-elected, that they don't do the moral and ethical things needed to get done, for that reason. And then there are people like Paul Wellstone, who did the right thing, and was probably taken out Cheney and his crew.

If Obama does win, he doesn't have to worry about re-election, and he may then do what he really wants to do. As Bill Clinton mentioned in his speech, most of the rise in properity took place in his second term.

On top of that, Obama had the surge in TParty politicians, and discovered how much they were going to bog down everything political with their "my way or the ighway" attitude. Without the American people rising up, as they started to do with the Occupy movement, he may have felt as if he had few other choices to back off a little and wait.

Having said that, I agree with you. The more "citizenship" skills and prowess we can show, the better off our country will be. As Thomas Friedman said on the Charlie Rose show, "We don't need better government - we need better citizens."

As I said in anothe blog posting, I think the people who vote Republican have given into the Republican agenda of trying to make people afraid. It's been said that if you want to control people, you must first make them afraid. I believe that is the Republican intent. The bottom line is that we must not give in an inch to fear.
 
 
+1 # FrustratedinFla 2012-09-07 16:55
That is every liberal and Democrats secret wish. In spite of his. In spite of his lack luster performance so far I do hope that you are correct.
 
 
-60 # Mainiac 2012-09-07 09:56
The only words that apply to our president and his speech are “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”

Furthermore, this man is a war criminal! Certifiable after the NATO attack he led to bomb Libya, kill people that didn’t do anything to us, and destroy another country in the Middle East.

The other party’s candidate is a greedy predator that doesn’t deserve our vote either.

We have to put our feet on another path. Voting for Jill Stein is a start.
 
 
+30 # Independentgal 2012-09-07 12:00
Voting for Jill Stein is another vote for Romney. Hope you don't live in a tossup state and bring about another Nader-like result.
 
 
+11 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:12
And Bush,Cheney, Bush and ReaGun were not criminals should be held for treason....ReaG un not worth the time to dig up...but the others. Hey Clint...Hang Em High
 
 
+7 # FrustratedinFla 2012-09-07 16:53
What is your plan of action now and who will you vote for on election day?
It looks like you will choose to vote to make a point. Just realize - it is unfortunate but there are only 2 people that have a chance of winning the election and a vote for anyone other than Obama is just as good as a vote for Romney.
 
 
-63 # Deboldt 2012-09-07 10:00
Is there any rational person who sincerely believes that the unsustainable American way of life can go on forever without destroying the planet? Does anyone seriously believe Obama has any chance or desire to go up against the banks, big energy or the collective corporate personhood bent upon universal destruction?

Short-term, it makes little difference whether Obama or Romney is elected. The total, inevitable destruction of our county and our environment cannot be stopped. The Devil and His psychopathic agents who have risen to rule us, are now firmly in the driver’s seat. The only hope for the planet and humanity is to bring down the curtain on the whole charade of Civilization as soon as possible—and by any means possible. Under Obama and the Democrats, I see Capitalist Civilization surviving for perhaps another ten or twenty years before Armageddon. By then too much environmental damage will have been accomplished and the runaway greenhouse effect will be inevitable.

Under the Republicans I see the real possibility that we will experience the destruction of this country and hopefully Civilization in a matter of years not decades. This may be our only, last chance for the survival of a small number of our species.

That is why I am praying for a Romney victory in November. Who says our electoral process cannot evoke change?
 
 
+18 # robniel 2012-09-07 11:16
Like praying is really going to do anything? There's half of your problem right there. Let's see a follow-up after the election.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:16
Praying does a lot. It gives you peace, it makes you feel like someone is listening.
But in reality the Creator gave us everything ...it is up to Us to Preserve it.

Personally, I feel that we should take over the USA no more two party crap. Time we hold ourselves accountable for what is going on, since it seems everyone here is so perfect
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:14
It can be stopped, it has been stopped...but not like people like you
You mooches live off the work people like us do.

Welfare State is Nothing Compared to the White Trash in our Country
 
 
+16 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 14:39
The small number of survivors you're hoping for won't include any of us. Sorry, but them's the facts. The very .01% who is funding Mitten's campaign are the same people just itching for the very thing you're talking about. They're the ones with the resources to survive it.
 
 
+12 # genierae 2012-09-07 17:37
I understand your reasoning, Deboldt, but I don't accept your despair. I have been paying attention to what is going on in the world for a long time, and I definitely sense a sea change, the seeds of a new beginning are taking hold. We are creating our reality, and once our collective consciousness reaches critical mass, we will see just how powerful we really are. There is no limit to what we can do, we can create a heaven on earth where fear and hatred are just a distant memory. You need to focus on the positive, and learn to think in a new way.
 
 
+8 # dovelane1 2012-09-07 22:50
Q: What is love?
A: The total absence of fear.
Q: What is it we fear?
A: Love
"One Minute Wisdom" - Anthony de Mello

The problem is not with fear, so much as it is with the "denial" of fear. It's people learning to be afraid of admitting to being afraid, so they cannot begin to respond to it. The key to change is awareness of fear, and then getting curious about it. (Curiosity is, supposedly, a stronger drive than fear.)

Unless we have had our curiosity beaten or socialized out of us. So, support curiosity. Ask questions. Sometimes I think one of the main problems people have is not knowing how to ask good questions.

All addictions are based on fear, and denial is the main reason why people stay addicted. Usually fear gains strength when a person's self-image is weak. I suspect a lot of the people who back Republicans have weak self-images, which is why they can be led by bold lies, and authoritarian leaders.

It keeps them in their comfort zone to give up thinking. As columnist Sydney Harris once wrote, "Truth makes us uncomfortable, and comfort insulates us from the truth. What most people end up wanting is for things to stay the same but get better."

What most people stuck in a comfort zone are really afraid of is "Unwilled Change," because it's out of their control. And for the 1%, control is what it is all about. And that is why they are afraid and want to control everything & everyone.
 
 
+2 # genierae 2012-09-08 09:21
I agree, dovelane1, curiosity is essential if we want to evolve spiritually, yet we must direct that curiosity toward the sacred. We can be curious about mundane things and get no meaningful results from that, or we can direct it toward spiritual enlightenment, and lift up our consciousness. As for our comfort zone, real life begins at the edge of it. We can be comfortable, or we can evolve, we can't do both.

Did you hear about the recent scientific study that showed the Amygdala, which size correlates to how fearful we are, is much larger in those who tend to be Republicans? Not surprising to me at all.
 
 
+6 # dovelane1 2012-09-07 23:18
And what is the most positive thing we, the people, should focus on? How about getting to the truth?

A Minnesota Public Radio broadcaster once said "I'm still trying to get to thet truth, and you already think you're there." I don't know, but he could have been talking about Republicans.

My brother-in-law once said "I've got my mind made up - don't try to confuse me with any facts." He was speaking satirically, and I'm sure he was talking about the Republicans.

The problem with many people is, as one pundit put it, "It's not what you know that causes the problems; it's what you know that ain't so."

The key for any person is to know the difference between an opinion and a fact. A fact can be proven, but an opinion cannot. So may people assume their opinions are facts, and state them as if they were. Once they assume an opinion to be a fact, they have little room for any one else's "facts."

I don't have a problem with anyone having an opinion. The problems begin with people who cannot tell the difference between the two.
 
 
+5 # genierae 2012-09-08 09:32
dovelane1: Truth must be the most important thing to us if we want to self-realize. It saved my life. Once you choose the way of truth, it leads you to unconditional love, which is true Heaven, and possible here on this earth, despite what the "religious" will tell you. I have found it and I have been found in the process. I tell all who read this to commit your life to the truth, hold fast to it no matter what, and it will set you free.

"To lift the veil that seems so dark and heavy, it is only needful to value truth beyond all fantasy, and to be entirely unwilling to settle for illusion in place of truth."

"Your completion lies in truth and nowhere else."

A Course in Miracles
 
 
-63 # Deboldt 2012-09-07 10:00
I find it impossible to believe that Romney-Ryan has Democrats so terrified that they forget that Obama and the truth have never had more than a coincidental relationship. He lied last time and this time he is lying with even greater strength and confidence. None of his most vehement supporters on the Left remember how much this administration considers their principles a big joke.

With President Romney the Liberals will suddenly turn on a dime and start protesting the War on Terror, drones, Afghanistan, the spying on, torture and murder of citizens as well as the draconian measures taken against whistleblowers, Muslims and immigrants—offe nses they simply preferred to ignore under Obama. Romney and Ryan may even inspire that long, long overdue bloody, violent revolution Tom Jefferson promised.

Obama is not the lesser of two evils, he is the more effective evil. A Romney Presidency will be met with massive resistance from a majority of Americans and even the conservative Democrat power structure. Obama’s Presidential abuses of power and his sell out of Liberal values will not.
 
 
+37 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 10:49
Debolt, while i suspect we agree with about Obama, the notion that a Romney victory will somehow "wake up" liberals/radica ls or whoever is essentially the same thing the German Communist Party said in 1933 (prior to the last election before Hitler came to power) when they said "better fascism than social democracy". It was a dangerous and misguided policy then and led to disaster and the same is true today.
 
 
+43 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 10:56
What makes you think President Romney will tolerate protest? Millions protested bush's war in Iraq before it happened. It didn't change his mind. With romney it will be about the coming war with IRAN (bigger than Iraq and Afghanistan combined).

Don't expect to protest without being met with an overwhelmingly violent response either.

I hope you didn't need your Social Security or Medicare.
 
 
-7 # Antemedius 2012-09-07 11:15
"I hope you didn't need your Social Security or Medicare."?

Exactly.

One would hope that emulating republicans is not the best that Democrats and Obama supporters have to offer now....

......

It is not Obama's fault that even though he promised transparency there are still some people who are still unable to see through him.
[snip]
[In July 2011] At a press conference held by members of the House Out of Poverty Caucus Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich), the second most senior member of the U.S. House, was pointed in his criticism of the White House regarding jobs and cuts to Social Security the President put on the table last week.

“We’ve got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the President of the United States. THE REPUBLICANS, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor DID NOT CALL FOR SOCIAL SECURITY CUTS in the budget deal. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CALLED FOR THAT,” Conyers, who has served in the House since 1965, said. “My response to him is to mass thousands of people in front of the White House to protest this,” Conyers said strongly.

http://antemedius.com/content/it-not-obamas-fault
 
 
+4 # Stephen 2012-09-07 10:11
Thanks Michael for this argument, which I somehow have to balance with John Cusack's critique.
 
 
+35 # lollie 2012-09-07 10:12
This election is not shades of gray, but a real choice of democracy or Romney royalty. Can't take this for granted, too many freedoms gone now. I will vote straight Democrat and will talk it up to everyone i know and that's not easy because I live in right wing nest.
 
 
+26 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 10:15
Take it from a very vocal 3rd party supporter in 2000! Even Michael Moore realizes this is too important to hand to romney on the principle that it's better to never make a comprimise than to vote for President.
 
 
-70 # Noni77 2012-09-07 10:21
The "Right" is afraid of a figure head chosen by evil white people like George Soros as a puppet to drive the weakened American economy into the ground, using the Marxist Cloward-Piven strategy, based on the teachings of Vladimir Lenin in regard to how to debauch a Capitalist currency, cause social chaos when the money is worth nothing and people are starving, declare martial law, and forever remain in power changing a Democracy into a totalitarian regime where EVERYONE BUT the Socialist leadership (.001%) is dirt poor. We were founded by Revolution, the Founding Fathers were revoltionaries. This is a counter-revolut ionary movement, a red shift. Obama wants to undermine the US because his crackpot understsnding of history blames us for everything. Muslims began the slave trade in the 700's, and they didn't outlaw it in Saudi Arabia until 1964! And Americans did NOT colonize Africa! Yet, he is paving the way for an Islamo-fascist state "in revenge". He's ALL BS, people!! And Obama care is a fantasy, money stolen from Medicare to fund it the first couple years so people wouldn't understand the real cost - the impossible cost to burden. You will have 3rd world care and a third world dictator by 2016. No "do-overs" then! Such power grabs rely on "Useful idiots".
 
 
+37 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 10:58
WOW! That was quite a run-on sentence!

Good luck on that violent revolution you're planning.

As for me, I'll stick to voting in an election. Sorry some of you can't peacefully deal with the results when they don't go your way.
 
 
+16 # dkonstruction 2012-09-07 11:05
If Obama truly took a "Leninist" platform of "All Power To The Soviets" or was truly giving us a 'red shift' i would have alot easier time voting for him.

If you had actually read Piven and Cloward (e.g., Regulatin the Poor or Poor People's Movements -- both seminal classic works) you would know they are not Leninists at all (which makes me suspect you have never read lenin either...shame you should...start with What Is To Be Done and Lenin's other works to the German Social Democrats of his day in which he argues for political i.e., electoral democracy as the foundtation for socialism).

So, Soros is a billionaire capitalist "marxist"...lol

Well, at least Tom Paine was genuinely revolutionary.. .i would agree that the Declaration of Independence is a revolutionary document but the Constitution was the counter revolution meant to protect the property rights of white male property owners (including their slaves).

And, to be clear, i don't blame us for everything...ju st the things we are responsible for which includes being the greatest source of terrorism in the world (e.g., 500,000 children murdered as a result of our sanctions against Iraq) and the greatest threat to world peace both through our own imperial military escapades as well as by being the largest arms dealer in the world) as well as the largest polluter and exploiter of labor in the world (though our multi-national corps).
 
 
+18 # bmiluski 2012-09-07 11:38
Oh wow until I got to the part where Obama wants to undermine the US, I thought you were ranting about mittins.
 
 
+6 # bingers 2012-09-08 01:59
The useful idiots are all Right wingers, and quit drinking the Kool-Aid, Soros is not a big money backer of the Dems, but he did fund Solidarnosc in kicking the Soviets out of Poland. The ones buying elections arew the right wing nut jobs like Adelson and the Kochs who give hundreds of millions to elect their lap dog Republicans.
 
 
+20 # Antemedius 2012-09-07 10:31
"There's good reason why the Right is terrified of a Second Term Obama because that is exactly what they think he'll do: the real Obama will appear and take us down the road to social justice and tolerance and a leveling of the economic playing field."?

Heh. Well, the "right" has never been known for being very bright, after all....
 
 
-5 # Antemedius 2012-09-07 15:50
This comment was a test.

Some who uprated it might want to re-read it carefully.
 
 
-2 # Antemedius 2012-09-08 06:23
And if you didn't like that, then you really won't like this statement...

........

Two months into his presidency, Obama summoned the titans of finance to the White House, where he told them, "MY ADMINISTRATION IS THE ONLY THING BETWEEN YOU AND THE PITCHFORKS"
[snip]
...in April 2011, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, chaired by Democrat Carl Levin, after a two-year inquiry, issued a fat report detailing several transactions, including Goldman's Abacus deal, that Levin and his staff believed should be investigated by Justice as possible crimes.
[snip]
Meanwhile, Obama's political operation continued to ask Wall Street for campaign money. A curious pattern developed. A Newsweek examination of campaign finance records shows that, in the weeks before and after last year's scathing Senate report, several Goldman executives and their families made large donations to Obama's Victory Fund and related entities, some of them maxing out at the highest individual donation allowed, $35,800, even though 2011 was an electoral off-year. Some of these executives were giving to Obama for the first time.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/06/why-can-t-obama-bring-wall-street-to-justice.html
 
 
+8 # mrbadexample 2012-09-07 10:36
Michael—I fully expect to be in the streets protesting whether Obama or Romney gets in. Romney is irredeemably bad. But Obama is the guy who just shredded Habeas Corpus in the NDAA. He’s the one who bullied the Spanish into not prosecuting W for war crimes. He’s the guy who didn’t perp-walk the bankers. He's the guy who has DHS spying on the Occupy kids sans warrants. His justice department just let Goldman off the hook for manipulating LIBOR—that’s a multi-billion dollar crime that hit every municipality in this country, and Holder just shrugged. And he’s the one treating Bradley Manning to pre-trial punishment that Amnesty International is condemning. Meanwhile, the torturers and murderers we found out about thanks to Manning and Wikileaks are free to drink martinis and watch the sunrise. So shill for Obama if you must, but come inauguration day, I want you out there with the rest of us on the motorcade to help remind Obama that he’s the least worst of our options. At best.
 
 
0 # Celeste 2012-09-07 17:08
These are solid, true examples that fly in the face of the narrative that says: "The Repugnant Republicans made him do it."

It's a sorry state for the nation cum Empire that it gets to choose between a moral midget of a con-man, one capable of taking the cane OUT from the elderly lady's clutch just as she tries to cross a busy street; and the other, who does a classy shoe shine and smile for the lords of Wall St., and sadly, the MIC as well.

In the film, The Matrix, the "Frenchmen" offers the insight that choice is just an illusion extended to the governed by those who hold power. Sounds about right to me. And not a word inside the Conventions about the record loss of Arctic sea ice... electioneering, as the world burns. That's leadership... not!
 
 
+5 # grouchy 2012-09-07 10:40
Mike, I think whether he does this or not (and I'm betting on the "not"), I delight in the idea that these assholes are worried! Biggie time I hope too!
 
 
+2 # universlman 2012-09-07 10:41
Mr. Moore makes a good point concerning the "saving" of GM. The required downsizing was similar to the way Romney might have cut pensions etc. to operate Bain Capital.
 
 
+8 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-09-07 10:55
I "was" a Democrat until some months ago. I changed my affiliation to "Independent" when Obama "pushed back" on countries that wanted to prosecute bush, Cheney for war crimes. Frankly, I'm no more sick of this country than I was when I was "raised" as a Republican. The Republican slogan was then and still is: "keep 'm poor and stupid and we'll (the corporations)ke ep all the money." Since I learned of this idea in my youth, I have always been fascinated by it, "principle of the double effect." Each of us has a positive and a negative effect on our environment, ourselves, our loved ones. I had to leave the Democratic Party when I saw the "weaklings" in the Democratic Party who cry for our $ so as to raise their election chances, whether or not they will achieve success and get re-elected. I will still vote for Obama, but I have to put my hand to my nose, pinch off the stink that is supplied to my nose air intake. Then again, no one is perfect and that includes me.
 
 
+27 # Smokey 2012-09-07 10:56
I don't expect any miracles out of Obama.
Unlike Michael Moore - or some of the conservatives - I doubt that Obama will suddenly big moves to the political left. If he tries, the conservative Congress will soon hold him back... However: I also know that a Romney victory will be a disaster... Imagine a President who will want anti-abortion judges and the destruction of "Obamacare."
 
 
+29 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 11:18
Imagine a President who openly WANTS a war with Iran, and openly wants to end Social Security, Medicare and all federal student aid!
 
 
+9 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 11:52
Rather than giving me thumbs down I'd like an explanation. Why shouldn't I listen to romney's own words on these subjects?
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:23
We have to listen or we are sheeple. Here at least we question authority. We know what we must do.
Morons will continue doing what they do.

I believe we can rebuild...but thugs do not want that I can prove it right here in rivercity
 
 
+20 # Sensible1 2012-09-07 11:03
I agree with Michael, on all points, and when the Republicans learn that the vast majority of us are pushing back on their outdated and ridiculous policies, and that the Republican brand is becoming irrelevant, they will retreat and gravitate towards the center in order to survive, or be cast out. This is indeed the time for the Democrats to be strong and lean forward.
 
 
-19 # Depressionborn 2012-09-07 11:11
I simply want a pres who will find jobs for everyone. It seems not to be Obama
 
 
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:24
And you think it is Republicans who shipped jobs to China, India
Please...
 
 
+8 # bingers 2012-09-08 02:05
[quote name="Depressio nborn"]I simply want a pres who will find jobs for everyone. It seems not to be Obama[/quote

Well, he tried, but all 44 job creation bills from the Pelosi congress were filibustered by the Republicans, so you're blaming the wrong guy.
 
 
-8 # Shorey13 2012-09-07 11:22
I respect Michael for what he's done, but he's dead wrong about Obama. He is not, and has never been, a Progressive. He is one of those we used to call "Rockefeller Republicans," moderate.Conser vatives who were evicted from the Republican Party and hijacked the Democratic Party. Clinton, Feinstein, Obama and many others will never work for the 99%. But I do agree with Debolt that the only hope (slim, to be sure) is a sweep by the Radical Right, which will drive us over the cliff in years rather than decades. Obama, like Clinton, is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Progressive need to be planning how to pick up the pieces--what kind of society we really want, after the debacle.
 
 
+3 # Celeste 2012-09-07 17:12
Great post! No one commented on Mr. Moore using this quote to describe Pres. Obama:

"He's a good and decent person (when he's not sending in drones to kill Pakistani civilians or prosecuting government whistleblowers)..."

It's indecent and speaks of how low the U.S. moral compass has sunk.
 
 
-12 # mgwmgw 2012-09-07 11:26
In the state where I live, Obama will win. I plan to vote for Gary Johnson. If he gets more than 3% then the Libertarian Party becomes a "major" party in this state, which makes it harder to keep them out of debates. That is all I can do.

If you live in a state where you know who will win, vote for a third party. The stronger they are, the more it is possible for them to change what gets discussed (repeat DOMA or the Patriot Act, end the drug war, pick your issues). As those in favor of repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell can tell you, parties do not have to win to matter.

If you live in a swing state, fight to make sure the voting machines count accurately and are not hacked, and that those who legally can vote are allowed to do so, and then vote strategically. Just voting is not enough.
 
 
+3 # bingers 2012-09-08 02:08
I like Thom Hartmann's description of Libertarians as Republicans who want to smopke dope and get laid. A libertarian society would be an even worse one than a teabagger one.
 
 
+30 # mgwmgw 2012-09-07 11:27
The Republicans are acting as if they do not want women to vote for them. Between killing funding for breast cancer screenings to forcing women to carry babies to term who will die at birth to being ignorant of biology, I cannot understand why any woman, or why any man who cares about any woman, could vote Republican. That does not give Obama a free pass on war crimes or on holding Americans in custody without charge, among other issues, but there is a difference between bad and worse.
 
 
+22 # bmiluski 2012-09-07 11:42
My dear, I'm still trying to figure out those "Log Cabin" republicans. How can they possibly support a party that invalidates their humanity.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 11:52
Tax cuts for the rich.
 
 
-6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:26
got a thumbs up on that one.
 
 
+27 # bmiluski 2012-09-07 11:40
Has anyone asked Romney if he's better of now then he was 4 years ago?
I guess only his Caymen Island banker knows for sure.

My biggest concern is those damn paperless voting machines. That's how bush won Ohio.
 
 
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-07 13:27
looks like diebold is at it again out there
 
 
+27 # panhead49 2012-09-07 11:49
For what it is worth - the youngest is home on leave and got a call from a team mate. Poor dear, told my son that he'd been a R all his life, always voted R but after watching the conventions said there is no way in hell he could vote for Romney. Son told him about my situation, seemed to help his buddy with reconciling his position now vs what he used to believe. You can only eat an elephant one bite at a time, that was a bite!

Has Obama done all we've wanted - no, the recalcitrant R dominated House has seen to that along with Mitch McTurtle blurping 'filibuster' it's been an uphill climb.

All I know is that I've been w/o health insurance for 6 years and boy howdy has it taken it's toll. Now, starting 10Oct12 I will have a PCIP plan. It actually has local participating providers.

I'm pretty sure a President Romney would become a health care nazi like the soup nazi in Seinfield - 'no care for you'! I share your 'nightmare' Mr. Moore that we will get the man we voted for last time around. Got to get him that Congress too!
 
 
+8 # FrustratedinFla 2012-09-07 13:09
I agree with much of with Mister Moore is said in this piece. Yet President Obama has not fulfilled many of the promises that he made and has left me and many others very disappointed.
Could it be true Obama softshoed through his first term so he could make real changes in the next 4 years? I suppose it's possible
 
 
+6 # bingers 2012-09-08 02:11
He's actually fulfilled over 75% of them, but it's been rough sledding against the filibustering party of no who have filibustered more every year than the Democrats did in 100 years.
 
 
+25 # FrustratedinFla 2012-09-07 13:10
Continued
My wife and I make a nice living. While we have each been laid off at one time or another over past four years we both know it was a consequence of what happened to the economy before '08. We are both hard working and industrious people and have regained our previous income and improved our financial standing during Obama's time in office. He gets neither credit nor blame for either.
When I think about who I will vote for this year I reflect back to the time that I voted for Ross Perot as a protest vote. I wanted anyone other than a politician in office. It was wasted vote though fortunately during a time of relatively little consequence.
Citizens United means that this election is of great consequence. A corporations mission is to increase shareholder value. Corporations increase shareholder value by increasing profits and minimizing expenses. Plainly said, their goal is to take as much money from the citizens as possible.
When corporations donate their massive amounts of money to a pol, superpac, etc, they are making a business investment.
This time I vote for Obama. A vote for for anyone else aids Romney & the corporations that see us as revenue.
 
 
+15 # tccmam 2012-09-07 13:19
Mike, you know we are a right-of-center country, with the GOP locked in a never-ending revenge battle against the social reforms of the 60's, and firmly holding on to economic feudalistic tactics against the withering middle class. Therefore, I'd like to know how Obama could possibly have "charged out of the gate...like FDR?" As a Centrist, Obama thought, like Clinton, the best way to govern is to compromise with your opponents. And for that he was labeled a "Socialist, Radical, Extremist unAmuriken, blah blah blah" If he'd "charged out of the gate," these lunatics would've flat out assassinated him!
 
 
+11 # MindDoc 2012-09-07 13:20
Well stated, both in terms of some thinking and talking points, and (maybe) to put some fear and fire in our bellies. Absolutely: active education, discussion, and fighting as if our country's life (of We the People) depended on it (which it well may) are needed.

Usually I'd not 'go here' but it strikes me that suddenly there is a huge roll-out of trolls coming out of the woodwork! Maybe, given how reality and facts are out-of-bounds for the Group of Psychopaths, and those fooled by their lying skills, enough of the faithful are increasingly anxious about Romney and Company, and many follow their role models and speak with hate and attack others sadistically, with ad hominem accusations and distortions. Yes...Truth sometimes hurts. Often it's just ignored.

To me, the only silver lining is that this onslaught of defense for the Ryan/Romney/TP takeover plan may reflect the desperation among the faithful to believe one set of 'truth' versus another. Not everyone is 'bad' or "right'. Even the blathering, funnel-visioned , fact-haters may (other than Romney) treat their pets well - or visit the Cayman Islands. People vary in their character and life goals. Elections reflect American values and *onshore* life, here in America. (Vote! Help others vote!)

As was said, even a broken clock is right twice a day... Would that we'd 'clean the clock' of corrupt and anti-working-pe ople politicians and set the time for 'forward', for We the People.
 
 
+14 # Independentgal 2012-09-07 14:21
Great comment. You're so correct about the trolls. Perhaps they watched the DNC, despite themselves, and that really revved up the hate because they realize they might not win. Probably they were bowled over (or scared) by the brilliance of the speakers and the unbelievable enthusiasm of the crowd. I couldn't bear to watch the RNC, but those close to me who did watch said it had no joy or enthusiasm. Brainwashing is a sad thing. I guess Rush and Fox did a great job on the trolls, who don't know what to do now that some of the right wing lies have been exposed to them.
 
 
-4 # Celeste 2012-09-07 17:21
Not everyone who notes the complicity between both parties--in their service to corporate interests is a troll. Slaying or impugning the witness doesn't change the fact that for this nation, starting with the Supreme Court's inversion of justice in The Citizens' United Decision, Profit is king. As a result of this, the growing powers of the MIC, Wall Street's fiscal alchemists, and a dangerous Right-wing Christian Theocratic movement (with its share of right-wing Zionist accomplices)tra nsforms the will of citizens (along with their true needs) into NOTHING.

Obama has shown more humanity towards gays and women, apart from that, there are virtually no indiscernible differences between the foreign policies of both R and D administrations . Both are under thrall to the MIC.
 
 
+15 # Billy Bob 2012-09-07 18:00
MIttens wants to bomb Iran. The President doesn't.

Mittens want to destroy Social Security and Medicare. The President doesn't.

Mittens wants to end all federal student aid. The President doesn't.
 
 
+19 # cassandrapt 2012-09-07 13:24
So Michael, now that you've scared the sh-t out of us, what do you plan to do about it? How about using your influence to get the lawyers out to watch the polls and challenge anything that looks suspicious. . . . and the get out the vote folks there to knock on doors and get everyone registered!!! I we let them cheat us we are complicit!!!!
You have a big microphone! PLEASE use it!!
 
 
-18 # seeuingoa 2012-09-07 14:16
OK Michael Moore, let us follow your advice and


V O T E F O R O B A M A


so we can have four more years with
indefinite detention
fracking
tar sand pipeline
drones
kill list
taxcut for the rich
arctic drilling
violation of 1st Amendment

this said by the strongest supporter
of Obama in 2008, but not any more !
 
 
+4 # FrustratedinFla 2012-09-07 16:40
@seeuingoa
What is your plan of action now and who will you vote for on election day?
 
 
-2 # seeuingoa 2012-09-07 23:35
reply to FrustratedinFla:

I will vote green.
How can anyone vote on somebody
with a kill list ?
 
 
+7 # jmcg 2012-09-08 09:26
I can vote for someone with a kill list because if I vote Green, I'll actually be voting for Romney. And Mr. Romney's kill list includes the American middle class, the elderly, and anyone who doesn't fit into the mythical, whites-only except for the help 1950's dream of America that never really existed outside television and restricted communities.
 
 
+3 # angelfish 2012-09-08 09:02
IQuoting seeuingoa:
OK Michael Moore, let us follow your advice and


V O T E F O R O B A M A


so we can have four more years with
indefinite detention
fracking
tar sand pipeline
drones
kill list
taxcut for the rich
arctic drilling
violation of 1st Amendment

this said by the strongest supporter
of Obama in 2008, but not any more !

f we give him a Democratic Congress ALL that can be remedied! HOW can you throw your vote away? Surely you won't vote for "mittens". To vote for anyone else IS a vote for Romney. God help us ALL if R "n" R get in! Never, EVER vote ReTHUGlican!
 
 
+4 # spenel334 2012-09-07 18:29
spenel334 I don't get that part either, about Obama firing people etc., but I'm going to let it go. I am crazy about you, Michael Moore, and I certainly believe what you say. I wish we could all get together and stage a mass gathering of outrage over the voter suppression. I want someone to tell us what exactly to do and how to do it, but of course no one knows exactly, and we're not going to get a huge protest march organized in each of the up-for-grabs states, between now and November. It just boggles the mind how they can get away with this, but they did that in 2000 and in 2010, if not other years as well, so if we let them, they will again.
 
 
0 # Firefox11 2012-09-12 17:34
get connected with Greg Palast at www.ballotbandits.org ASAP
 
 
+14 # popeye47 2012-09-07 18:56
I have heard so many folks say they are against Obama and it isn't because of being a racist.

I live in Georgia and I hear it quite a few times every day that they aren't going to vote for a n----r.

Yes it is still that way in the South, regardless of what they may say in public. But in private their views are completely different.

When are the folks going to cast off this yoke around their neck. And a majority of these folks are professed CHRISTIANS. Only in name, apparently
 
 
+4 # genierae 2012-09-08 09:52
It's still that way in my rural part of Ohio too. I am smack dab in the middle of a WASP nest of Obama haters, and W lovers, and their letters to the local Republican paper are so ignorant. There are some letters from progressives, including mine, but the prevailing winds are definitely blowing for the GOP. The sad thing is, most of these T-Partiers are suffering from the recession that their party caused, yet they want to continue their pain and vote for Republicans.
 
 
0 # Firefox11 2012-09-12 17:33
"What's the Matter with Kansas" addresses this situation where the oppressed protect and support the oppressor, politically.
 
 
+2 # Rick Levy 2012-09-07 19:44
Michael, I'm not going to hold my nose while I vote for Obama. But I won't be easy unless I can see that Obama really has turned the corner.
 
 
0 # Aunt Tom 2012-09-07 20:13
I'm enough of an anti-war and civil rights activist to be deeply alarmed at President Obama's actions, and I find myself constitutionall y unable to vote for him even tho the thought of Romney-Ryan is worse. It seems that the only alternative is to become active and demonstrate, protest and in every way try to communicate to Obama and his followers intransigent opposition to their warful and illegal actions. He simply cannot be given a free pass. And meanwhile, it's important to keep the congress as free of Republicans as possible. I guess. Where's Russ Feingold when we need him??
 
 
+4 # genierae 2012-09-08 09:59
Aunt Tom, you need to look at the whole picture, see both candidates and the affect they will each have on our country, and then vote for the one who will benefit the common good the most. You might not like some of Obama's policies, I don't either, but Romney will return us to the days of the cold war, and neocons running our foreign policy, with a new war in Iran and maybe Syria to boot. He also wants to repeal Obamacare, and that means millions of people will get sick, and many will die because they can't afford healthcare. Those deaths are something to ponder when you decide whether or not to vote, don't you think?
 
 
+9 # DaveM 2012-09-07 21:14
I think if we get the Tea Party darlings (who have had two years to shown their true colors) and re-establish a Democratic majority in Congress, we'll see the President Obama we elected in 2008.

We forget at our peril just how many of his initiatives have been summarily shot down in Congress for no reason other than that they were his ideas (more than one prominent Republican has bragged about this). We must recall Bill Clinton's experience with a Republican Congress, which accomplished little other than to spend months impeaching him over a dumb fling.

Remove "the party of no" from Congress and let the President do as he has long promised. He has, in very large part, stuck to his convictions while the best the opposition can come up with is "NOT whatever the President wants".
 
 
+6 # angelfish 2012-09-07 21:28
WHY does everyone have such a HARD time with the realization that Barak Obama is only a human being? The man is NOT a "God". He is NOT perfect. He actually makes MISTAKES. I suppose being the first man of color elected to the highest office in the land DOES put an extra onus on him, however, he can only do so much without the help of a cooperative Congress. Unlike Willard Mitt Romney, he is NOT "to the Manor born" and earned his stripes the hard way. I am not always happy with some of his decisions, but I don't have the inside information that has influenced him in making them. I'm sure that there ARE things that History will look back on, in his tenure in office, that will not reflect well. Then again lately, there have been too MANY of his predecessors who have even WORSE skeletons in THEIR closets, not that that is any excuse. ALL of them will answer to a Higher Power. After watching both Candidates at their Conventions, it is plain to see who is FOR the average, poor, working stiff and his name ISN'T Romney! Michael Moore is RIGHT in his assessment and if we are smart we will take heed and return President Obama to the Oval Office to finish the job he started. It will be INFINITELY better than ANYTHING Mittens has in store for us! So, REGISTER, help Friends, Family and Acquaintances to do the same, get proper I.D. for your State and GET to the Polls on November 6th and never, EVER vote ReTHUGlican!
 
 
+1 # genierae 2012-09-08 10:01
Well said angelfish! Thank you.
 
 
+11 # eldoryder 2012-09-08 03:40
Two Words: "SUPREME COURT". Since we only have two VIABLE candidates who can be elected this time around, WHO do you want appointing the next (or maybe TWO next) Supreme Court Justices?

That fact ALONE sweeps away ANY arguments I have heard against President Obama.

If he can put a "moderate" or two on the court for LIFE, this action alone will outlive his Presidency, and affect all of us for GENERATIONS.

Think of the same power in Romney's hands.

I rest my case.
 
 
+4 # vgirl1 2012-09-08 05:39
No wonder Democrats, progessives and liberals lose all the time. There is no such animal as strategic voting. One votes for the available candidates or one loses to the side one is most opposed to governing. Dems, progressives, liberals never seem to learn. We are our own worst enemies. We bash each other relentlessly, and wetry to get too cute by far. Do we not see Rethugs looking to remove even the slightest "draw away" candidates on state ballots (re: Goode in VA vs Romney). They know there is no sense taking any chance on any candidate in any state taking away votes from their candidate. It is a defeatest strategy no matter what anyone wants to call it.It is not a positive strategy. For every strategic vote you think you are placing to make a point, believe me the Rethugs are making their votes right down the line for Romney. Those two stances combined could be all Romney needs to win, even in unexpected states. Smart voters vote to protect their best choice and to ensure the alternative has less of a chance to win. Political doggedness needs to become a strength on this side if we expet to defeat the Vulture/Voucher led ticket Nov 2012. WAKE UP DEMS, PROGRSSIVES, and LIBERALs.
 
 
+10 # lin96 2012-09-08 07:07
Why no film on Romney, Michael? There is so much information on him to make a film about. The right is touting the film by DeSouza (I believe that's his name) on Obama, fulfilling his father's dream of colonization and more garbage than you can imagine. How about a short documentary before the election telling the truth about Romney? After all....he was from Michigan.
 
 
-11 # JGross001 2012-09-08 07:20
This election is about the economy. Obama said he would fix it, but his efforts to do that have not worked. If he is re-elected, there is nothing to suggest he would try a better way. Lefties will see my comments as racist - what else can they say? Those who constantly play that card should ask themselves if they really believe they have no better argument to offer. I am a conservative who did not vote for Obama, but I was pleased to see that a black man was finally elected president, and I did hope he would do a good job. He has not, in my opinion, so therefore I must be a racist, in your opinion.
 
 
+7 # jmcg 2012-09-08 09:38
No, I would not say you are a racist because you are disappointed in Mr. Obama's efforts to restore the economy. I would say, however, that you are ecomonically naive if you think that any President could have done anything more to mitigate the global economic disaster that faced us at the end of 2008.

You are only a racist if you think that the reason he hasn't, in your opinion, done a good job is because he is black. From your post, I suspect that only you can know if that is true.
 
 
+11 # genierae 2012-09-08 10:09
I don't think you're racist, I think you are ignoring the facts, JGross001. To blame Obama for what was caused by the almost total obstruction of Republicans to every one of his efforts is inexcusable. It takes cooperation from both parties to get anything done for the country, and the day Obama took the oath of office, the Republicans began their plot against his presidency. Their highest priority was to destroy him, and if you don't think race was a huge part of that, you need to think again.
 
 
-11 # JGross001 2012-09-08 17:03
Democrats love to blame "republican obstructionism" . As I see it, and I have been paying attention, that means the republicans did not choose to support a democratic bill. This is also called "refusing to compromise". If the reublicans say that some part of a proposed bill needs to be changed, do the democrats offer to talk it over and seek a compromise? No, they just head for the cameras and whine about republican obstructionism. Get real. You may get kudos from your like-minded friends for drinking this Kool-Aid, but a lot of us can see what is going on, and we vote.
 
 
+3 # genierae 2012-09-09 16:41
JGross001, it's because of people like you that we are in this mess. Please tell me one bill that the Republicans have proposed that will help this country get back on its feet, one program that will help the people of this country, and I'm not talking about the rich people, they are doing just fine, I'm talking about the rest of us. And don't give me that crap about trickle-down, I saw through that load of horse manure a long time ago. Democrats are the party of the people, they brought us every program that benefits the common good, such as Medicare and Social Security, and now Republicans are trying to destroy these programs and put us all on the street. They want to repeal Obamacare and cause thousands of deaths when people lose their insurance. Led by the Bush administration, Republicans pushed this country over a cliff, and now they want to return us to those evil days, Romney even wants to go back to the Cold War! Republicans' idea of compromise means that Democrats have to do all the compromising, and the American people get the shaft. You are so far off the reality track, you have even forgotten there is one. I feel bad for you. Someday you are going to look back and regret that you were on the wrong side of history, fighting progress and holding on to the past. And I think that day will come sooner than you think.
 
 
0 # Firefox11 2012-09-12 17:30
Actually, from the day that Bill Clinton took office, as well, the Republicans began their plot against his presidency. Have you seen the documentary "The Hunting of the President". There is a pattern of obstruction from the right wing that has been going on for some time in this country.
 
 
+5 # mdhome 2012-09-08 15:34
No not racist, I doubt much could be done with the right wungnuts who are batsh^t crazy and were ready to destroy the country to prove a black man could not do the job.
 
 
+3 # mdhome 2012-09-08 15:32
I don't know what I hated more, giving up on single payer, or hiring Tim Geitner and Larry Summers, BOTH stunk to high heaven!
 
 
-1 # corals33 2012-09-08 17:24
Sorry Big Fella, I know you mean well but the repulsive ones and the demonacats will continue the dance of the devils for the foreseeable future and unless you lot get proper voting machines,honest candidates and a real political system, the illusion and pantomime of american elections and their ramifications will continue ad infinitum.
 
 
0 # vgirl1 2012-09-08 18:39
I agree with another writer.

Michael, if you are so concerned and think a strategic move is in order, why did you not produce a film about the travesty that is Mitt Romney for airing during this election. The Rethugs made such a strategic move in producing "2016", and you sat back and complained like so many Dems, progressives, and liberals have done throughout these 4 years except to criticize the POTUS. What was your strategic move, Michael?
 
 
-1 # tonywicher 2012-09-09 17:36
Romney is a Wall Street asset stripper. To make thinks worse he is a Mormon, which is almost like being in the Klan. His running mate is a John Birch Society crackpot. Romney and Netanyahu have had a close relationship for twenty years. Romney is surrounded by rabid neocons just salivating to get back in and continue the Bush Middle East policy by attacking Iran. On the other hand Obama is fully complicit in the crimes of the Bush administration, and he has carried out a somewhat different strategy of aggression laid down by the Brzezinski faction that has always been behind him. This involves destablilizatio n operations all over the Middle East identified as spontaneous "revolutions" generically called "the Arab Spring". At NATO instructions, the feudal oil protectorates of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, used thousands of "Al Qaeda" terrorists from all over the Middle East to smash Libya and murder Gaddafi, a war crime by any possible standards, and now they are shipping the same terrorists over the Turkish border into Syria. That's your choice in this election. Who would you rather have? Feel helpless? You should. You have been taken over.
 
 
+1 # Cassie 2012-09-10 01:04
This discussion has gone way downhill. I don't know that I have any faith that Obama or the Democrats will stand up to corporate power in a second term. But Michael Moore is doing the right thing. It's what we all have to do - just decide to act as if we have faith in them, because faith creates enthusiasm, and the Republicans are counting on our discouraged apathy. What I do know is that RNR would mean a quick death to everything we liberals treasure. I think we have to GET OUT THE LIBERAL VOTE, and not just for President. Congress and state offices, too. Like Michael Moore wrote, it will only happen if each one of us steps out to remind the youth and our friends and families who feel let down that getting out to vote is the only chance we have. And we need to somehow let the Supreme Court know we're on to them, that they can't steal this election the way they did with Bush. Any ideas on that?
 
 
0 # Firefox11 2012-09-12 17:25
www.ballotbandits.org
also, anything by Greg Palast
 
 
0 # Cassie 2012-09-10 01:17
Tonywicher, I'm afraid you're right. But we have to act as if it isn't so, because there's bad ... and there's worse, worser, worsest. Both probably lead to the same end, but there's just the chance that bad might not hurt quite so much as worse, worser, worsest. And who knows? Maybe there IS some ET force out there waiting to save us (just kidding). As Monty Python said in The Meaning of Life - something like "I sure hope there's higher intelligence out there in space, because there's bugger all down here on earth!"
 
 
0 # Cynthia 2012-09-10 06:44
Forget the Dems and Repubs. We need a Coalition where every party put forth a candidate for each office, we have a "primary" of our own as The Coalition Party, and each party, keeping their "values" and guidelines, would vote for each other's candidates, or their own candidate. But, this is truly the only way to change the direction of our country and make real head way in this rigged electoral system we have. So, whoever wins the election in our Coalition primaries will be the candidate that we will all back and these candidates would come from each party whether it be a Green, Justice, Independent, Peace and Freedom, Declined to State, etc.

This is the only way to change the direction of our government and save whatever democracy we have left.

The way to achieve this is to spread the word about the concept and the stats of 5 - 10% of the vote they're getting in each election vs. the 43% we are as a coalition, and talk with the leadership of each party and make it clear that they either stay as they are and continue to receive 5 - 10% of the vote and dwindling membership, no funds to run but a shoestring election, and loss of ballot access or all these parties join together as the Peace & Freedom Coalition Party/the Green Coalition Party/the Independent Coalition Party/the Declined to State Coalition Party/ the Justice Coalition Party, etc.

The coalition party is the parties united.
 
 
0 # sknyjohn 2012-09-10 08:12
The "real" Obama has already shown himself, & the following is an example of it: "Well, what Obama has done is actually move the entire debate to the right. He claims that he’s the one standing between the Republicans and Social Security and Medicare and the entitlements, but it was Obama, two weeks before he even took the oath of office, who said that entitlements would all be on the table. This was at a period in which the Republicans were in disarray, couldn’t mount a challenge to anything. Obama followed through and created this model for austerity with his deficit reduction commission, which came up with the figure of $4 trillion in cuts, which he now includes among his solemn promises to the American people. Those cuts would savage, in fact, Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security." http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/7/effective_evil_or_progressives_best_hope
 
 
0 # Firefox11 2012-09-12 17:20
Thank you, once again, Michael, for delineating what the problem is (factors that could lead to a "Pres Romney" and suggesting possible solutions (energize friends, vote, inform others of the real options) I would also suggest that everyone read "Billionaires, and Ballot Bandits" by Greg Palast.
 

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