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Excerpt: "History will show that the first term was better than most progressives now think. ... Why Obama's achievements are dismissed or denied by many on the white liberal-left is a question worth serious consideration."

US President Barack Obama gives his inaugural address during his inauguration. (photo: Getty Images)
US President Barack Obama gives his inaugural address during his inauguration. (photo: Getty Images)


Saving Obama, Saving Ourselves

By Tom Hayden, Peace Exchange Bulletin

06 September 12

 

he threat of a Romney-Ryan regime should be enough to convince a narrow American majority to vote for Barack Obama, including the disappointed rank-and-file of social movements. A widening of economic and racial inequality. Cuts in Medicare and Medical. More global warming and extreme weather. Strangling of reproductive rights. Unaffordable tuition. The Neo-cons back in the saddle. Two or three more right-wing Supreme Court appointments to come. Romney as Trojan horse for Ryan the stalking horse and future presidential candidate.

The consolidation of right-wing power would put progressives on the defensive, shrinking any organizing space for pressuring for greater innovations in an Obama second term. Where, for example, would progressives be without the Voting Rights Act programs such as Planned Parenthood, or officials like Labor Secretary Hilda Solis or EPA administrator Lisa Jackson?

But the positive case for More Obama and Better Obama should be made as well. History will show that the first term was better than most progressives now think. A second-term voter mandate against wasteful wars, Wall Street extravagance, and austerity for the many, led by elected officials including Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee, Raul Grijalva, Jim McGovern and Keith Ellison, would be, in the language of the Pentagon, a target-rich field of opportunities.

Why Obama's achievements are dismissed or denied by many on the white liberal-left is a question worth serious consideration. It may only be a matter of legitimate disappointment after the utopian expectations of 2008. It could be pure antipathy to electoral politics, or a superficial assessment of how near impossible it is to change intransigent institutions. It could be a vested organizational interest in asserting there is no difference between the two major parties, a view wildly at odds with the intense partisan conflicts on exhibit every day. Or it could even be a white blindness in perceptions of reality on the left. When African American voters favor Obama 94-0 and the attacks are coming from the white liberal-left, something needs repair in the foundations of American radicalism.

I intend to explore these questions further during the election season. The point here is that they cumulatively contribute to the common liberal-left perception that Obama is only a man of the compromised center, a president who has delivered nothing worth celebrating. The anger with Obama on the left, combined with broad liberal disappointment with the last three years, results in a dampened enthusiasm at the margins, which could cost him the election.

By their nature, the achievements of social movements are lesser versions of original visions. As the venerable socialist presidential candidate Norman Thomas used to lament, when asked if he was proud of Social Security being carried out, "they carried it out in a coffin." The limits of the 1935 Social Security Act lay in its token payments, limited eligibility, and lack of health insurance - all a result of political compromises thought necessary at the time. Because paying for the program by taxation was much too controversial, Social Security was based on employer and employee contributions. That is what Norman Thomas apparently meant in describing the program as the death of his original vision.

While the forerunners of social progress are disappointed in the results they achieve, it should be of some comfort that the gravediggers have been trying to bury Social Security for 75 years.

As the Port Huron Statement concluded, "If we appear to seek the unattainable, let it be said we do so to avoid the unimaginable." With dreams like that, it was inevitable that most of us cynically viewed the reforms of the Kennedy and later Johnson administrations as tokenism. Many young radicals of my time - SNCC and SDS - distrusted the Kennedys as too gradual and Martin Luther King Jr. as too accommodating.

But despite all the inherent tensions and faction fights, social movements do achieve significant reforms, which I would define as empowering the powerless, opening up spaces previously closed, and expanding material benefits for those previously denied them. Prominent examples included:

  • The 1965 Voting Rights Act, which racists and Republicans have attempted to thwart from its passage to the present day;
  • The enfranchisement of young people who could be drafted but could not vote;
  • Migrant worker protections achieved by the United Farm Workers;
  • Medicare and Medicaid (1965);
  • The US-Soviet nuclear test ban treaty was a response to global pressure for peace (1963);
  • Creation of the Peace Corps in response to a student campaign;
  • The birth of opposition to the Cold War (1965 SDS march and teach-ins).

We could neither anticipate nor stop the Vietnam escalation starting in 1965, nor the growth of the National Security State thereafter. The collaboration that existed on domestic issues - cresting in the unity of labor and the civil rights movement in the 1963 March on Washington - did not extend to foreign policy where labor and the Democratic establishment were battling communist-connected insurgencies. But the achievements were not as token as we feared. Under moral and political pressure, Kennedy evolved from early managerialism to become a crucial partner on voter registration, civil rights and the arms race before his 1963 assassination. Were it not for the assassinations of that time, our movements would have been participants in a broad coalition that came to power. A strategy for social change grew from our direct experience, that of outside (often radical) forces taking direct action to awaken and link with establishment insiders to achieve all that was possible, and to lay the foundations for later movements.

After several historical zigs and zags, a similar progressive moment came in the year 2000, when a popular American majority elected Al Gore president only to be thwarted by the US Supreme Court. Gore would have given us a ten-year head start in facing global warming, tested the limits of an environmental presidency and, arguably, kept us out of the multi trillion-dollar Iraq War.

Some on the left still believe that Kennedy was an imperialist who would have been no different than Lyndon Johnson in sending 500,000 Americans to Vietnam, and that Gore was no different than George Bush. Such opinions are wrong on both the facts and conjectures, driven more by ideology or disdain for two-party politics than by the weight of historical evidence.

What these cynical worst-case analyses leave out is the role of strong social movements and progressive constituencies in shaping the political character of the presidency. Just as Abraham Lincoln was influenced by the slaves and Abolitionists, and just as Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal was shaped by labor and populist movements, so the student, women's, civil rights and environmental movements carved an essential place for themselves in the future that might have been under John Kennedy and, later, Al Gore.

Barack Obama, like Lincoln, FDR and John Kennedy, has been criticized as too incremental by his base and too radical by his enemies. An irate Thomas Frank concluded that Obama will never pursue a second New Deal because "that is precisely what Obama was here to prevent." (Harpers, September 2012) In much analysis, Obama's role seems to be to give austerity and global imperialism an African-American face.

Liberal icons share the disappointment from their perspective, too. Paul Krugman, who supported Hillary Clinton, wrote of the 2009 stimulus package, "Mr. Obama's victory feels more than a bit like defeat." (237) A common complaint from the left and liberals was that Obama was too timid, as if oratory could have achieved the public option in health care.

There is another explanation, as first described in my book, The Long Sixties: From 1960 to Barack Obama. It goes like this: Obama was elected on the wings of social movements going back to slavery time and, concretely, by an extraordinary campaign that challenged the Democratic Party establishment and Iraq orthodoxy in 2008. "Hope" and "change" were code words for Obama's signal achievement, becoming the first African-American president. In doing so, he opened the door to the presidency to Latinos, women, Jews, gays and lesbians, and others long assumed to be "unqualified." In victory, however, Obama inevitably fueled emotions ranging from anxiety to hatred among the legions that became the Tea Party counter-movement. Vast numbers of Hillary Clinton Democrats accepted the Obama victory with mixed emotions, while most of the new president's constituency relaxed their energy after two years of grueling campaigning.

This was not the Civil War when slaves and Abolitionists pushed the president towards Appomattox. Not the New Deal with 40 percent unemployment, thousands of workers occupying auto and steel plants, and a rising Left resisting the threat of fascism at home and abroad. Nor was it the Kennedy era when 200,000 marched for jobs and justice under the leadership of civil rights, labor and clergy organizations. Not even close.

In fact, polls as early as 2009 showed that government was as much the enemy as banks and corporations. By a huge margin of 63-28, Americans preferred austerity to stimulus and that cutting taxes was better than government programs. (186) In 2010, a 52-19 majority believed erroneously that Obama had raised middle-class taxes. (393) Surveys by Democratic consultants indicated the same thing: voters pinched in an economic recession were reluctant to part with their tax dollars for a bureaucracy they did not trust. There was a racial dimension that few pundits mentioned: white voters in places like western Wisconsin, the land of Paul Ryan, were less than enthused about sending their tax dollars to black Milwaukee.

The surprising truth, according to Michael Grunwald's book, The New New Deal, is that the stimulus program - the American Recovery Act - worked beyond anyone's expectations. Which is true? Krugman's repeated story that the stimulus was inadequate? Frank's claim that Obama's role was to prevent more radical change? Grunwald's conclusion that it was both an historic achievement and all that Obama could achieve? Grunwald's well-documented account, based on two years of writing, holds up - and should be read by any doubters.

At the beginning of the Obama administration, the American economy was losing a net 700,000 jobs per month. In the first month alone of Obama's presidency, 818,000 jobs vanished. "The shocks of 2008 were nastier than the crash of 1929," Grunwald asserts, citing the eight trillion dollars in housing wealth that vanished overnight. (Grunwald, 427) That terrifying situation only began to improve when stimulus dollars began to flow. The Recovery Act funded direct employment for people in 100,000 projects including:

"roads, bridges, subways, water pipes, sewer plants, bus stations, fire stations...federal buildings, Grand Canyon National Park, trails, libraries courthouses...hospitals, Ellis Island, seaports, airports, dams, locks, levees, Indian reservations, fish hatcheries, coral reefs, passport offices, military bases, veterans cemeteries, historically-black colleges, particle accelerators, and much more." (Grunwald, 13)

The green stimulus package transformed the Energy Department into the "world's largest green energy investment fund." (Grunwald, 17) The US Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy grew from $1.2 billon to $16.4 billion in two years. Ninety billion in stimulus funds were invested in green energy programs, which leveraged another $100 billion in private funds. An advanced battery industry was built from scratch, and 680,000 low-income homes have been weatherized, 120,000 buildings retrofitted for energy efficiency, ten million smart meters have been installed, and 400,000 LED streetlights and traffic signals. (Grunwald, 425, 439) Renewable electricity doubled in three years, as promised. Wind, solar and geothermal projects approved on federal lands grew from zero to 29. (Grunwald, 435) Solar installations went from 280 megawatts in 2008 to 1,855 in 2011. Just five years earlier, the Clinton administration barely pushed through a five-year $6.3 billion clean energy initiative, just three percent of Obama's $200 billion. Two Obama administration mandates on fuel efficiency, one in 2009 and another last week, will increase the standard from 29 mpg to 54.5 mpg by 2025.

In addition to providing unemployment benefits to millions of Americans, the Recovery Act,

"pushed 39 states to rewrite their eligibility rules in order to qualify for stimulus bonuses, dragging the New Deal-era unemployment system into the computer age (and) permanently extending the counter-cyclical safety net to part-time workers and domestic abuse victims." (Grunwald, 435)

Grunwald sums up as follows: the Obama Recovery Act, in constant dollars, was the biggest and most transformative energy bill US history, the biggest and most transformative education bill since the Great Society, a big and transformative health care bill, too, the biggest foray into industrial policy (the auto bailout) since FDR, the biggest expansion of anti-poverty programs since LBJ, the biggest middle class tax cut since Ronald Reagan, the biggest infusion of research money ever, and it extended high-speed Internet to under-served communities, a twist on the New Deal rural electrification program. And it contained virtually no earmarks.

And, Grunwald adds, the stimulus became a huge liability in the face of nine percent unemployment, the rise of the Tea Party, and a Republican Party strategy to punish any Republicans who cooperated with Obama. The Republican obstructionism was unprecedented: whereas the Gingich-era Republicans sought to stop the Congress during the Clinton era, the new Republicans had no qualms in trying to stop the president from acting at all during the worst economic and credit crisis in 70 years.

Democrats flinched. They stopped talking about the stimulus. They even let Jay Leno get away with joking that it was communism, "or, as we call it in this country, a stimulus package." A CBS-New York Times poll in February 2010 revealed that only six percent of Americans believed the stimulus had created any jobs. More Americans thought Elvis was alive.

THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

Perhaps more than any other policy, Obamacare fed the disillusionment of the liberal-left with the new administration. They agonized in watching Obama retreat over months from his preferred single-payer position to a public option and finally to the only option which could pass the Congress, a huge subsidy to private insurers that resembled the bailout of banks. Liberals blamed Obama for his retreat more than the dinosaur Democrats and obstructionist Republicans who insisted on the final outcome. Thus, Obama received no liberal credit for being the first president to sign the biggest expansion of coverage since 1965.

Obamacare adds 32 million more people to the rolls, including those with pre-existing conditions, women seeking birth control options, and young people up to the age of 26. The provisions of Medicaid in the Obama budget will support elderly and disabled people, and children, as well as middle-class people needing future nursing home care. These Medicaid expansions will be slashed under the Romney-Ryan administration, in addition to Medicare being degraded into a voucher program.

Like the stimulus package, however, Obamacare fueled the Tea Party's massive protests against the bogeyman of "big government," even producing hallucinatory right-wing calls to save "our Social Security" from the State. Timid Democrats retreated from their legislative product again, at least for one year. The media headlined polls showing that Obamacare was wildly unpopular (though a closer reading would show that a slight majority either supported the legislation or didn't think it went far enough.)

Was this an optical problem? Did the passage of Obamacare appear to be a step backwards when viewed against the original single-payer proposal? Or did the liberal-left actually think the spectrum of American politics ranged from themselves to Obama, leaving out the inconvenient truth that hordes of right-wingers were both numerous and highly-organized. It had taken 75 years to add health insurance to FDR's original Social Security concept, but the politics had changed scarcely at all.

IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN

Obama was the first presidential candidate to succeed on a platform of pulling US troops out of an ongoing war (unless you count Richard Nixon's secret plan for peace in 1969 and "peace is at hand" promise of 1972). By any rational standard, Obama fulfilled that pledge when the last American troops departed Iraq last year.

Many in the peace movement did not believe it then and dismiss it now. To the extent this is a rational objection - and not blindness - it rests on two arguments. First, some claim that Obama was only following the withdrawal plan already agreed to by George Bush. It is an interesting question for future historians to uncover what shadow entity orchestrated the Iraq-US pact between the end of Bush and the coming of Obama. That aside, it is logical to conclude that the immanence of Obama's victory pushed the Bush administration to wrap up the best withdrawal agreement possible before the unpredictable newcomer took office. In addition, Obama increased his previous withdrawal commitment in February 2009 to include virtually all American forces instead of leaving behind a "residual" force of 20-30,000. It is true that as the endgame neared, Obama left open the possibility of a residual force after American ground troops departed, saying he would be responsive to the request of the Baghdad regime. Here, some on the left seized on these remarks to later claim that Obama had to be forced by the Iraqis to finally leave. There is no evidence for this claim, however. It is equally possible - and I believe more credible - that Obama was simply being Obama, knowing that the Iraqis could not possibly request the Americans to stay.

Dissecting diplomacy, like legislation, is like making sausage, in the old saying. Obama certainly knew that he would gain political cover if he could say with credibility that he was only following Bush's withdrawal plan and Iraq's request.

A more bizarre left criticism of Obama on Iraq is that the war itself never ended but instead morphed into a secret war with tens of thousands of Americans fighting as Special Ops or private contractors. Why it would be more effective to continue a losing war with fewer troops has never been asked. After all the talk of tens or hundreds of thousands of US personnel being left behind, the most recent numbers are these: in June of this year there were 1,235 US government civilian employees in Baghdad (down 10% since last quarter) along with 12,477 employees of U.S.-funded contractors and grantees (not all Americans; down 26% since last quarter). (Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, "Quarterly Report and Semiannual Report to the United States Congress." July 30, 2012) The personnel are for intelligence, embassy security and customary logistical support; not an extraordinary number in a country seething with anti-Americanism. South Korea allows up to 28,500 US military personnel, and Japan some 34,000, not including thousands more dependents and civilian employees - that is what a post-war occupation looks like. (Chanlett-Avery, Emma and Ian E. Rinehart, "The U.S. Military Presence in Okinawa and the Futenma Base Controversy." Congressional Research Service. August 3, 2012)

AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN AND THE LONG WAR

Like many who campaigned for Obama in 2008, I opposed the continuing US wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan and the military doctrine of the "Long War" against Islamic fundamentalism. Obama has proven true to his word, the critics have been proven right in our warnings.

According to Bob Woodward's book, Obama's Wars, Obama granted his generals an increase of 33,000 troops for an Afghan surge, but drew the line there and insisted that those troops would start coming home in 2011, a pledge he has kept. The 33,000 figure was disappointing to those of us, including Rep. Barbara Lee, who demanded that at least 50,000 be pulled out by the end of this year. Instead, Obama has promised the pullout of US ground troops and an "Afghan lead" by 2014. In doing so, Obama has triggered a dynamic towards the exits favored by overwhelming numbers of Americans and NATO citizens (Mitt Romney has opposed deadlines while at the same time accepting the 2014 framework).

While it will take years to know the truth, I believe there is a strategic and political reason for Obama's 2014 timetable. He knows that Afghanistan is a lost cause, though this cannot be acknowledged and dealt with during the election season. Between 2013 and 2014, Obama will have a narrow window to replace Hamid Karzai with a power-sharing arrangement, and make enough deals with the Taliban, the Haqqanis, Pakistan, China and yes, Iran - to salvage and perhaps partition Afghanistan. At present, the neo-cons running Romney's foreign policy team will not permit any diplomatic contacts with the insurgency even if it means leaving an American soldier, Sgt. Bowe Bigdahl, in Taliban captivity. An ultimate political agreement to try stabilizing Afghanistan will require diplomacy with several countries at the top of the neo-cons enemies' list. Even then, implosion and defeat are Afghan possibilities which Obama dares not mention.

Others in the peace movement, along with civil libertarians, rage against Obama because of his secret escalating drone attacks. They are right morally to keep making righteous noise, especially about the official cover-up of casualty rates. But it will take a political-diplomatic strategy of ending the Afghan war in order to stop the drones. Civil liberties and human rights groups who are vociferous against the drones still refuse to oppose the Afghan war itself, which is the primary cause of the drone killings. Such groups also oppose the assassinations of Al Qaeda leaders and the prosecution of whistleblowers without opposing the underlying wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen.

In summary, Obama's withdrawal from Iraq has been clouded in left disbelief and overshadowed by criticism of his policies in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and beyond. On the merits, these criticisms are entirely justified. When they lead to opposing Obama's re-election, they help Romney and the return of the neo-cons.

WHERE TO GO FROM HERE

The white liberal-left, however modest in numbers, is hugely important in a close presidential election, where the margin of difference may be one percent or less in states with large progressive constituencies. If Obama loses, it will be unfair to blame the left, but they will be blamed nonetheless. As a consequence they will become more marginal, far less able to connect with the progressive constituencies and mass movements with vital stakes in Obama's re-election.

The potential toll can be glimpsed already, in the current decline of the radical left amidst the greatest economic meltdown in seven decades. Of course radical movements will rise again, but more likely from the activist networks who tried to stop Romney and re-elect Obama, not from those who sat on their hands and believed it was all another circus.

There is plenty of time to still make a difference. First, some people on the left will have to become used to the idea that partial power only brings partial results. While we can establish enclaves for dreamers from Mendocino to Brooklyn, from Madison to Austin, we have to win support from the center in battleground states or risk losing decades.

The second lesson is for self-defined radicals to be immersed in the everyday problems of the mass constituencies that depend on presidents to make a small margin of difference in their lives.

One small example of how it works: there would be no federal consent decrees over brutal police departments were in not for Al Sharpton hammering at Bill Clinton to include lawsuits for unconstitutional "patterns and practices" in his otherwise draconian Omnibus Crime legislation in 1994.

Third, election seasons are perfect organizing moments when large numbers of people are open to persuasion on public issues. It may be springtime before the next cycle of activism comes around again. Now is the time to build local lists and structures for voter turnout in November and street turnouts thereafter.

This particular election offers the perfect moment to build opposition to Citizens United and "corporate personhood," for renewed movements for a constitutional right to vote, the deeper regulation of Wall Street, and a constitutional right to vote for campaigns down the road. Does anyone seriously believe that the Dreamers and marriage-equality movements will accept a return to second-class status without the fight of their lifetimes?

It can be time to begin a realignment of the electoral left as well. The active Green Party networks need to shed their reputation as "spoilers" just as the Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) needs to shed its appearance of only "tailing" the Democrats. Labor insurgents like National Nurses United, and even the formidable SEIU, are demanding a more independent role in coalition politics. One can almost feel a new politics trying to be born in the so-called womb of the old, a third "party of the people" both inside and outside the two-party system. What if the Green Party decided to invest in places of the richest electoral opportunity instead of campaigning vigorously where the stakes are 50-50? Why not a negotiated merger of the Greens and PDA in the close races, and PDA support for Green candidates where they are most viable? It is entirely possible to visualize creative leaps out of electoral traps while strengthening an independent left within the institutions of state power. Protestors in the streets should serve as a permanently challenging - and threatening - disruptive presence in constant orchestrated interaction with forces on the inside, too, not simply serve as occasional "street heat" to be enlisted when pressure is needed by the insiders.

Now through November, the radical left can be the effective One Percent. The 99 Percent will be appreciative.


 

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+82 # walthe310 2012-09-06 09:14
Last night at the DNC, Bill Clinton, in under an hour, demolished the structure that the GOP had built attacking Barack Obama and supporting Mitt Romney. Brick by brick, stick by stick, lie by lie and misrepresentati on by misrepresentati on, Bill Clinton left the Republican structure in ruin. My advice to Mitt, concede now.
 
 
-61 # chirostv 2012-09-06 10:17
Mitt conceding is Baracks only hope of victory.
 
 
+25 # ericlipps 2012-09-06 13:50
Quoting chirostv:
Mitt conceding is Baracks only hope of victory.

Forgive me, but . . . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Right now, if one looks at the electoral map, Obama has a commanding lead--and this despite the fact that the electoral college tends to work to the advantage of the GOP. Romney will concede, all right--on election night, after using every trick in the book and raising somewhere in the neighborhood of a billion dollars to wn.
 
 
+8 # Scott Galindez 2012-09-07 14:09
You should watch something other than Fox News...
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:33
What GOP structure one that depends on scabs to build? Foreign parts? Lies for concrete?

Can only stuff so much into a one story, one dimensional structure.

With the Materials used, it is certain to topple, burn or disintegrate. More wasted taxpayer dollars
 
 
+36 # dkonstruction 2012-09-06 09:18
though i have disagreed with Hayden over the years he has remained committed and active while many others did not.

The Port Huron Statement that Hayden wrote and which he references in the article is still an incredibly powerful statement and should be read (or reread if you haven't in a while) widely.

What's sad is how far "progressives" have moved away from the kind of vision the Port Huron Statement espouses. We sorely need this kind of vision again or we will forever be locked into a choice between two parties who have never been about the kind of sweeping progressive change that the Port Huron Statement envisioned and passionately called for.

What is most important about Hayden's statement is that he is speaking directly to and openly about the role that the "radical left" can play in this country. Rather than getting mired down in the stupidity of "there's no difference" between the two parties, Hayden's focus and goal is how progressives and the left can actually influence the direction of this country instead of continuing to only talk to themselves.

If you haven't read the Port Huron Statement (or it's been a while) take the time to read it. It's a beautiful and important document from a time when there were powerful social movements in this country that actually had a vision of a revolutionary and radically different america.

http://www.h-net.org/~hst306/documents/huron.html
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:35
We do not need Party of either sort. It is time Human Beings started taking charge of their lives, and learned how to run things themselves.
Get heads out of wherever and make these sleazes answerable to Us
 
 
-55 # chirostv 2012-09-06 09:32
Wow! Was Tom Hayden the most irrelevant figure that could be located to comment on this? Remarkable. From what he is writing we are all missing the spin! Makes perfect sense!
 
 
+34 # dkonstruction 2012-09-06 10:43
Quoting chirostv:
Wow! Was Tom Hayden the most irrelevant figure that could be located to comment on this? Remarkable. From what he is writing we are all missing the spin! Makes perfect sense!


As the author of (still) one of the best progressive political "statements" of the last 50 years (and one that has lost none of its relevance) and a democratic socialist that has been actively involved for half a century (and remains so) how is he in any way an "irrelevant figure." His piece has real substance to it as opposed to your comment which has none.
 
 
+18 # carneyva 2012-09-06 11:39
Another silly, irrelevant, ad hominem argument from the fact-challenged right wing. Deal with the issues, please.
 
 
+27 # tedrey 2012-09-06 09:36
There's a lot to think about here, and I hope we consider it carefully. Some may be right, some may be wrong, but it deserves more than knee-jerk responses. Can we have a serious discussion, and can those who know all the answers already stay away for once The rest of us might learn from one another.
 
 
+3 # Lolanne 2012-09-07 06:58
Quoting tedrey:
There's a lot to think about here, and I hope we consider it carefully. Some may be right, some may be wrong, but it deserves more than knee-jerk responses. Can we have a serious discussion, and can those who know all the answers already stay away for once The rest of us might learn from one another.


You are exactly right, tedrey. Unfortunately, there are enough right-wing plants here that it's nearly impossible to have a serious discussion about anything, unless we can all just ignore them.

Perhaps the most important paragraph in the piece is this one:
"Why Obama's achievements are dismissed or denied by many on the white liberal-left is a question worth serious consideration. It may only be a matter of legitimate disappointment after the utopian expectations of 2008. It could be pure antipathy to electoral politics, or a superficial assessment of how near impossible it is to change intransigent institutions. It could be a vested organizational interest in asserting there is no difference between the two major parties, a view wildly at odds with the intense partisan conflicts on exhibit every day. Or it could even be a white blindness in perceptions of reality on the left. When African American voters favor Obama 94-0 and the attacks are coming from the white liberal-left, something needs repair in the foundations of American radicalism."
(Con't to Pt 2)
 
 
+6 # Lolanne 2012-09-07 09:46
Part 2

Personally, I think I fall most into that very first possibility he mentioned, and I suspect many of us do. "Utopian" is the right word; we wanted Obama to immediately undo the 8 disastrous years of bushco. The more time goes by, the more I realize how completely unrealistic our expectations were. After all, it's a lot to undo! It took bushco 8 yrs to trash the country so badly. Expecting Obama to turn it back around completely in 4 yrs, even in the face of intractable gop obstructionism, is just not realistic.

Do I like everything Obama has done? No, but not a one of us would agree with every single thing any president would do. I do firmly believe we're headed back in a more positive direction, and that if we can just get Obama re-elected and give him a Congress that wants to work for the good of us all instead of just saying "NO," if we can just do that, I suspect we may see much more positive change in the next 4 yrs.

Contrast that very real possibility, that glimmer of hope, with what we KNOW we'll see out of the greedy old pigs, and there's just no contest!

VOTE, everyone, please, please don't sit at home with bitterness and anger because you're disappointed in some of the President's actions. VOTE, and VOTE DEMOCRATIC right down the line!
 
 
+22 # reddaisy 2012-09-06 09:37
Hayden makes sense, but he's forgetting some of the facts that outrage people like me: an increase in immigrant deportations, sham legal processes for those being deported, drone strikes (and the use of drones generally) that kill civilians and American citizens, prolonged detentions and abuse of the legal process; continued detention, with no trial, of Bradley Manning, duplicity on new oil drilling, including in the artic, and so forth. And leaving over 13,000 Americans in Iraq, most of them military contractors, is not insignificant. I live in Mass; if the election is firmly in Obama's direction, I will vote Green.
 
 
+29 # Linda 2012-09-06 10:36
reddaisy I understand where you are coming from and I even agree with you to some degree, but here is the catch . If Romney wins this election because too many people decided to stay home or vote 3rd party what kind of country do you envision under his leadership and a stacked Republican Supreme Court ? If you have listened to Romney and Ryan then you have to know that the most vulnerable in our country will be thrown to the wolves,our parents ,grand-parents ,children and the disabled would suffer horribly !
I just can't see that any of us would benefit if we gave this election to the Republican's !
 
 
+12 # Vardoz 2012-09-06 13:11
The Tea Party take oer is a good example of a 3rd Party. We do not have a Parliament govt and a 3rd Party does not work. What we need are a majority of reps like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren who will not sell out the people for special interest money.
 
 
+18 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-06 10:37
reddaisy,

I concur on your Stein vote; but please vote for Warren.

Today is the Primary election in MA!

Anyone in the 2nd Essex State Senate area, please vote for Slattery - the ONLY real Democrat running as a Democrat!
 
 
-2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:38
Vote Romney but you will have less chance of making changes for the better.
I know Green, Independent and the sheer sturpidity of splitting this Vote up this Fall will bring more than drones down on the Middle East and who knows where they will stop.
But Vote GOP....Greens and Independents stand for making America better. That is on our shoulders. Want OB better than vote GOP OUT
 
 
+47 # Barbara K 2012-09-06 09:41
VOTE OBAMA 2012, or we all sink with him. He is our only hope, the alternative is horrendous. DON'T VOTE Republican at any level, we have states that need cleaning out too. We have a choice, live under suppression and be drowned out by the greed of the wealthy with no hope; or under Obama with hope for better futures.

DO VOTE: Don't ever set out another election and let us be put in this predicament again. MAKE IT OBAMA BY A LANDSLIDE. 2012
 
 
-64 # chirostv 2012-09-06 10:20
We must vote republican at ALL LEVELS if we hope to get back on track.

Do you know what someone with a degree in art says at work more than anything else? "Do you want fries with that?"
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:40
Too bad they are not more creative. My friend took the time and submitted drawings, now gets free lance work HMMM
oh yeah we are democrats so we are creative not bashers
 
 
+5 # brux 2012-09-06 15:03
LOL, I know a lot of people in Arts and Liberal Arts which is what you were probably trying to say that work in the IT field in Silicon Valley and probably make more and know more than you.

I can't believe you could listen to Bill Clinton's speech ( you didn't did you? ) and come up with that kooky response. What a shame ... on you.
 
 
+2 # Regina 2012-09-07 07:32
The most you'll get out of the Republicans is ketchup for your fries, designated as a vegetable.
 
 
+4 # JCM 2012-09-07 21:00
chirostv - Do you mean the same track that nearly destroyed our economy.
 
 
+22 # Linda 2012-09-06 10:49
I live in Ma. and went to vote earlier today .
I asked two ladies outside the polls what the voter turn out had been so far and she said about 200 people ,"not much ,'.
While I do know a lot of people sit out the primaries and only vote in the general I think they are not considering that when there are multiple people on the ballot for one position," in your party," that their choice might not be there if they wait for the general election to vote !
At any rate I hope this low turn out earlier today is not an indication that people are not going to vote at all in this election!
I hope people watched the Convention last night and heard Bill Clinton because he made it perfectly clear what's at stake in this election and how important it is that we don't allow the Republican's to win !
I voted a straight Democratic ticket so that Obama has the votes he needs in Congress and the Senate to get things done should he win this election !
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:43
Those who work always show up later. Perhaps due to not being able to vote for Democrat, repubs are sitting this one out.
Will be interesting to see who turned out, that might give a clue.
I usually vote for best candidates but this year it is democrat or sink
 
 
+20 # happycamper690 2012-09-06 10:14
The absolutely most important thing any of us can do is VOTE! (For the last 50 years I have voted in EVERY election I was eligible for.) Only by fair elections in which a high percentage of voters turn out can we claim to live in a democracy.
 
 
+25 # ganymede 2012-09-06 10:15
Great piece that should be read by every disenchanted liberal/progres sive. Many of us have suspected that Obama really has the stuff of greatness. He may be a 'tool' of the corporationists , but he's had to be this way in order to literally survive and get to where he is in the first place. We must now pull out all the stops in our support for him, otherwise we will become a truly outcast, barbaric state in total decline.
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:47
If he wins, it will be our turn to get off our .... and get his attention. It is time we stop expecting everyone to do it for us. Like Clinton said it takes hard work.
I worked to get laws passed years ago, it was not easy. I worked with others to keep scam industries out of our area, it was not easy. I do not know how to mooch off society, it is time we all do our part. Taxes, we all pay. But going and organizing...?? ?? Fighting Monsanto, Fracking, Pipelines, Food Quality...it is always the same people while everyone else ends up with the rewards of others.

We are already Barbaric. right now we are killing Wolves, Buffaloes, Poisoning Food and killing foreigners for resources..cert ainly ain't saints
 
 
+15 # grantkuper 2012-09-06 10:20
Excellent article by Tom Hayden, who originally earned his cred with SDS... Mirrors my sentiments.
 
 
+13 # Buddha 2012-09-06 10:20
1) WOULD single-payer as an OPTION truly have been impossible to pass? Did he even try? And Medicare-for-Al l SHOULD have been a political winner, it would have forced the GOP to more publically oppose a program the voters like and understand.

2) Why during the first extension of the W tax cuts did he not play hard-ball and tie its passage to an extension of the debt ceiling through 2013? If the GOP was willing to have the higher deficits from getting those tax cuts for millionaires, then they shouldn't have been allowed to play hostage-taker during the debt-ceiling fiasco months later.

3) Crushing Occupy with his DOJ and DHS.

4) Still negotiating TPP, the NAFTA on steroids, more of these "Free Trade" bills that have eviscerated our manufacturing sector and our middle-class jobs.

5) NDAA, and fighting to make sure that the provisions allowing the executive branch through the army to indefinitely detain US citizens just from suspicion of "supporting" "terrorism", an assault on free-speech and habeas corpus rights you can drive a truck through.

That's a short list. I will still be voting for him, as Robme/Lyin' are far worse. But us in Occupy certainly know that the Dems and the GOP are PART of the whole corrupt system that cares more about corporate profits than the financial health of our citizens.
 
 
+20 # natalierosen 2012-09-06 11:21
Give our president a break! THINK. You WILL get Mitt Romney if you do not vote to relect this president. Is that what you want? Do you think it will simply be the same? Not if your gay, not if your black not if your Hispanic and NOT if your sick.

WAKE UP, America. This is the most important election of our lives. VOTE Obama 2012 and do NOT kid yourself. The two parties are INFINITELY different and that difference will cost lives and guess what? The Republican Party does NOT care!
 
 
+5 # brux 2012-09-06 15:07
Well, I agree with you a lot, but the money and power is piling up so much on the right that at some point we are going to get mitt romney or his clone or even worse shoved down out throats by real tyrants.

we have to stand up, even if we have to do it by unconventional means.

to really win we have to vanquish this reactionary revolutionary republican party, but they own most of the country and control most of the people. so, without some kind of revolution we are not going to evolve into anything positive, just move slowly to the tyrannical system even if it takes generations.

have you not noticed how the world has changed and how kids just do not really understand history, but the time they grow up and see things the way they are it is too late.
 
 
+1 # Regina 2012-09-07 07:36
And especially not if you're female! The only thing Republicans are offering women is ultrasound probes up their vaginas.
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 12:57
1 Single Payer...for all those who rant about this Where were all of you? I didnot see any Petitions, I saw no Marches. I saw no Rallies or Organizations. Where were you?
2 Did you ever go to township meeting, city hall, county or state budget meetings? Have you ever seen how this plays out. If so then tell us all...One person against a House and Senate... Tell us your experience at Budget Meetings, they are long, boring, and all cut up before we sit down. What's your spin
3 OB and Dems neither crushed nor supported OWS. OWS could start up again, hopefully smarter by filtering out the sleaze bags and the ones who want to harm others. Maybe they like the money they got? Or maybe they are in school or working>? They stopped no one can make and organized group stop. They were not all Prisoned or the Media would have let us know.
4 NAFTA both Republican bill signed by Bill C. I am affected by it are you? I lost job and my own business, did you?
What products do you buy now? I only buy American. Do You? I really do watch where my food comes from, do you?
5 Pleasing the Military, CIA this will change, again did you organize to stop any of this? did you file petitions? Or do you just snivel


If we can get every member of OWS to get one hundred people to change something in their township, city, county, state we can start a movement that does go forward with Americans One Step at a Time
 
 
+1 # brux 2012-09-06 20:22
You did not see the polls and petitions where for example doctors and nurses polled favored single payer?
 
 
+11 # natalierosen 2012-09-06 10:39
Tom Hayden wrote the most wonderful iteration and explanation as to why it is so necessary to re-elect this president. If Bill Clinton's explanation is not good enough for all the doubters (hard to believe that it wouldn't be) then Tom Hayden this Sixties radical, an icon of the New Left of my era and MY icon of those wonderful days, explains it sufficiently enough for this anti-war left of center former activist to say AMEN.

Now it’s on to November and let's win re-election for this excellent president Barack Obama!! And oh yes, if you live in Massachusetts or know anyone of voting age registered put in a good word for her too. She is a price above rubies!
 
 
+8 # isafakir 2012-09-06 10:45
i frankly don't comprehend the blue dog democrats incomprehension of progressives. this mantra of he did so much already is not the issue. all they can talk about is obama's accomplishments and their accusations that progressives have unrealistic expectations. NO.

i expected mr obama actively to prosecute some of the worst wrongdoing in the history of the USA but instead wrongdoing by politicians and business have been institutionaliz ed and perpetrators immunized and actively rewarded. i expected the victims of wrongdoing to be protected but instead it is the victims which have had the very worst government directed persecution, including, silencing of protests by criminal violence, criminal prosecution of child victims of torture, foreclosures of homes of middle class families, criminalization of debt, deporting innocent immigrants of color, while criminals guilty of fraud perjury obstruction of justice discrimination and abuse of power are given government ministries and tax subsidies and huge bonuses and unprecedented profit.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 13:03
Have you ever organized to change things? I doubt it Most people are talkers not doers They expect us Activists to do it for you
R/R gets in, don't worry you won't be able to do anything but work baby work for them.
If not work than perhaps Serve Your Country for Israel's Sake. If that is not enough, well, I just do not see us as anything but Slaves. I know where my
Support must be put...for Americans but then I have been supporting America, fighting for our rights since 65
 
 
+12 # isafakir 2012-09-06 10:50
Obama signed into law the suspension of habeas corpus. has prosecuted whistleblowers rather than wrongdoers. has fought help to defrauded home owners while banks were rewarded for their fraud and perjury. has let armed T bag thugs maraud poor democrats while directed armed violence against and brutal repression of peaceful unarmed occupiers. applauded open assassination of USA citizens and torture of USA disabled vets by IDF, bombing of hospitals schools farms children and fruit groves, collective punishment and apartheid. and turned the two greatest electoral victories in the party history into its worst route in less than two years, endangering the very future of the species.
it doesn't matter that we have obama care if we have social security medicare pell grants medicaid head start health education and welfare dismantled a year from now.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 13:03
So again what are you gonna do about it. What have you done? snivel snivel snivel
 
 
+12 # Ellioth 2012-09-06 10:59
Though Bill Clinton and Tom Hayden present powerful cases for Obama and for voting Dems (which I heartily agree with), there are key unspoken issues that are still hidden from sight:
1. The current GOP madness has been in the making for a long time - 30-40 years. They had a clear vision, strategy, plan and invested heavily and long term to make their dreams come true - a complete takeover of the U.S. government and the 3 main branches - Executive, Legislative, Judicial. They have nearly succeeded and if not stopped now, our nation and the middle class will be destroyed, and run by, for and of the wealthy elite. Make no mistake about this - it is very real.
While the Repubs have been strategic and ready to invest serious money into taking over all reigns of power and our treasury, the Dems have been tactical, small minded and not willing to invest heavily in a new, compelling vision and strategy for America's future. We have our billionaires and millionaires, just like "they" (Rs) do. With Koch Bros and Adelman ready, willing and able to invest $100 million each into a party (Rs) that will give them a handsome return personally (lower tax rates, heavy influence in policy making circles), our wealty have not be willing to invest heavily in a better nation and world for all. A few million is nice, but clearly not sufficient in today's world. Campaign finance reform is critical - first, we need a clear majority, a 2nd Obama term, then Hilary. Elliot H
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 13:10
I do know we have to strategize 2016 now. New word
We have to get off our butts and do our job. When we sit back and expect others to do for us...we get just what we are in.

We must get voters id, out to vote. When we look at what is going on with Diebold machines right now, we have to see OBama win. Then it is up to us to square off with organizations on what We Want for America. Time for Dictation to cease. But then we have to do it, no one will do it for us...understand that.
My generation did lots of things now we see what everyone coming up the ranks let go...environmen t, animals, air, water, education jobs.
I organize, I Petition, I walk, march. I buy American. I go to local farms for food when I cannot grow it. Too bad the people didn't follow this course of action...we wouldn't be in war, or losing jobs. We would have New Energy Sources, affordable Medical but no everyone wanted new Stuff. man. We have to keep up with the Joneses. man
 
 
+3 # dbriz 2012-09-06 11:07
Tom Hayden's fond reminiscences of the 60's, a time when progressives took to the streets and demanded change is welcome even if anachronistic.

One heard then no such paeans to incrementalism as we read in Brother Hayden's plea today.

As reddaisy points out above, it's almost as if the egregious assaults on civil liberties, illegal, immoral war making, continuing support of big banking interests and a plethora of other such "unitary executive" decisions by the administration don't exist.

For the contemporary Mr Hayden, no matter, by voting LOTE these can all be dealt with later.

Of course it doesn't occur to Tom that given a second, lame duck administration, Obama and friends will simply see it as a last opportunity to use their "mandate" for more of the same i.e., capitulation to the "softer" Bush/Cheney neoconservatism that has defined his first term, along with bigger and better ways to help his "Friends of Tim" (as in Geithner) movement.

Lord only knows what "improvements" in civil liberty destroying "findings" our Constitutional scholar incumbent and General Holder will cook up.

No Tom, sorry to say, incrementalism isn't going to happen. We have gone too far down the road to oligarchy to hop scotch our way back.
 
 
+9 # dkonstruction 2012-09-06 11:33
Dbriz,

i agree with much of what you say and i suspect so would Hayden but i think the main point in the piece (beyond reelecting Obama) was the role that a sizable, organized social movement can have in terms of meaningful reform.

The alternative is to say revolution or nothing which i just think is a lame and ultimately self-defeating
position.
 
 
+11 # shnarg 2012-09-06 11:17
Vote for Obama but keep a suitcase packed...
 
 
+12 # SOF 2012-09-06 11:18
Esteeemed Mr. Hayden, You are correct. However you omit the reasons many find voting for Obama an ethical problem. The passage of the NDAA =removal of Constitutional rights. The president himself requested removal of the amendment that would have protected US citizens from military 'justice' -including the threat to investigative reporters. He could have vetoed NDAA. Putting all communication media under Homeland Security (kill switch), Making propaganda legal. Opening Arctic for drilling, and excessive support of GMOs and Monsanto in particular.
I don't want Romney to win, Republicans are at least dangerous to Democracy, at most Evil. I'll vote and work for Democrats in Congress, but still reluctant to vote for Obamad to above.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-09-06 13:13
Ethical or Racial?
If we get OB and the Dems we can do what my generation did Take back the stupidity and change how this country has gone.
We adopted clean air, water. We started the Environment Programs. We did them against all odds What have you done since ReaGun
 
 
-2 # vgirl1 2012-09-06 12:23
Progressives/li berals have always been known to be their own worst enemy. They always seem so eager to cut off their noses to spite their faces. Forever complaining when they don't get all they want when they want it, usually because they have already destroyed their best chance of getting something by criticizing their best advocate and giving ammunition to their opposition. Democrats/progr essives/liberal s just never seem to learn. They also seem to think they can sit back and let others do the heavy lifting and then get mad when things don't go as they would like. Remember, from the start President Obama said this would take all of us not just on election day but everyday. But what happened, after voting everyone seemed to disappear except to criticize, especially the liberal press and what should have been the Democratic surrogates for the POTUS.
 
 
+2 # vgirl1 2012-09-08 06:15
The negatives say it all.
Where have the surrogates been for the last 3 1/2 years? So much Dem, progressive, liberal Obama bashing with little constructive take to the streets support. The "Left" still complains about healthcare results. Where were they when the fight was being fought? Why were they not in the streets like the TPrepublicans on this and every issue instead of sitting back and criticizing from couches,laptops and media outlets. The so called Left better wake up. While messages and movements can be started, supported and argued on the web, it takes visible, demonstrable, foot soldiers in the streets with longevity and a concrete purpose and message to win. Occupy did not come close - too general (lacking specific short term actions and goals to reach the long term objective). The civil rights movement had specifics it fought for in the street. So did the anti-war movement. What were the specific objectives the Left has taken to the streets for these last 3 1/2 years? Heck we haven't even taken to the streets in significant, consistent numbers against Citizens United or Voter Supression. We just yak, yak, yak, yak, yak and wait for others to do the heavy lifting. Thank God there are have been some doing something like the repeal CU petition drive and the all to small march against voter suppression along with take it to the courts and registration drives. But still not enough people are out there fighting, clamoring, marching for the issues of the "LEFT".
 
 
-9 # cordleycoit 2012-09-06 12:42
Nice to see Tom on board with the Obama crew. I remember him as a wavering Trotskyist wavering into the Maoist camp. The year have taking their toll but wisdom has alluded Hayden. He was known to take pot shots at American aircraft which solidified his credentials as a pacifist, I guess...
 
 
+8 # Vardoz 2012-09-06 13:08
Please- what we have is total Socialism for the rich and the top. They are being very well taken care of. And as the Tea Party and R & R talk about bad govt all of our reps enjoy govt pensions for life and triple A health care! Its big govt for the millionaires and Billionaires, billions in subsides for the richest coproations and the military and crumbs for the rest of us!
 
 
+10 # Vardoz 2012-09-06 13:04
We need to send Romney back to the planet of Calob.
 
 
0 # pietheyn 2012-09-06 21:05
Why that far? He is already immersed in the fiction of Nephites, Lamanites, magic
crystals and underwear.
 
 
+6 # tedrey 2012-09-06 13:08
Speaking to SOF, isafakir, Buddha, reddaisy above, who are absolutely right about the Obama administration, I suggest the following:

Voting for a major party only means that you prefer them to the other for this moment.

It does NOT necessarily mean that you consider them legitimate, or that you think the country is safe in their hands.

It is quite reasonable, when one party is trying to steal the election again, and when both parties seek an unconstitutiona l imperial presidency, to smash the Republicans as hard as possible in November, and then immediately withdraw our obedience and support from the Democrats until they return to legitimate and constitutional methods of government.

So "Vote for Obama" and "Stop Obama from destroying the Republic" are, curiously enough, not incompatible goals.

One at a time. Finesse.
 
 
0 # dbriz 2012-09-06 16:19
"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously and accepting both of them."
Orwell

Obama has already been complicit in "destroying the Republic" as much and more than those whom he replaced.

He has done so quite openly in his acceptance of a de facto continuation of Bush-Cheney foreign policies (a few tweaks here or there do not a policy change make).

He has in fact been worse on civil liberties than his predecessor (see: FISA, NDAA, Patriot Act).

In true Orwellian fashion we are asked to ignore this behavior because...well, because he is for single payer I guess.

Of course we all know that he will be most receptive to changing all this if we just believe (wink).

After all he's a constitutional scholar. He simply realizes that suspending the Constitution in order to save it are "...curiously enough, not incompatible goals".

It just takes a little finesse.


"But it was alright, everything was alright, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
Orwell
 
 
0 # JCM 2012-09-07 21:16
So I guess you will be voting Republican and evrything will be great.
 
 
+5 # witchyny 2012-09-06 16:47
Bradley Manning
Tim DeChristopher
Julian Assange

Gulf Drilling
Alaska Drilling
Wall Street Bailout
(Too Big to Fail)

Protesters Beaten By Police
Wild Horses, Wolves, Cougars, and Coyotes-Killed By BLM

Drone Murders
Kill Lists

GMO &
Guantanamo
 
 
+1 # tonywicher 2012-09-06 17:39
I'm a real Roosevelt Democrat and I'm also really anti-war. I consider what NATO led by the U.S. did in Libya and is trying to do in Syria constitutes a war crime. Obama has violated both constitutional and international law at least as much as Bush ever did. His Secretary of the Treasury is Timothy Geithner, who has overseen the theft of trillions of dollars in insider trading through the fixing of the LIBOR rate. He has done nothing to confront either Wall Street or the CIA - on the contrary, he has implemented their policies and gotten "white liberals" like Tom Hayden to go along, and for that he is worse than a Republican. I realize that Romney has fascist doom written all over him. But I just can't vote for a war criminal. So I'm sitting this one out - unless some dark horse candidate emerges that I can vote for.
 
 
+1 # indian weaver 2012-09-07 04:48
Yes obama has done many horrible things. We cannot give him a pass on his destruction of our safety and our Constitution, for any reason. He didn't have to sell out. But, he sold out on many fronts as stated by tonywicher. I could add to the list of obama's destruction of security and peace in america. Because of NDAA and associated crimes against us, The People, he's demonstrated weakness and cowardice, not to mention deception.
 
 
0 # Lolanne 2012-09-07 10:11
>>So I'm sitting this one out - unless some dark horse candidate emerges that I can vote for.
 
 
+2 # Lolanne 2012-09-07 14:51
Quoting Lolanne:
>>So I'm sitting this one out - unless some dark horse candidate emerges that I can vote for.

Well, I'll try again, since OWS cut off my comment the first time. What I wrote was just a reminder to tonywicher that if the R & R boys manage to lie, cheat and steal their way into the White House in November you may have a little difficulty conversing with your conscience about how your decision to "sit this one out" will have helped put them there. You can watch them dismantle the country while you meditate on that.

If you really feel OK about that possibility, then I have to question your statement that you're a "real Roosevelt Democrat."
 
 
-2 # tonywicher 2012-09-06 18:08
This column is really ridiculous when you come to think about it. Hayden, who IS a white liberal, is advising other white liberals to vote for Obama, which they are already doing in droves. I'm a real Roosevelt Democrat and I'm here to advise Tom Hayden and all the other white liberals not to vote for Obama, because in spite of this picture Hayden paints of all Obama's great accomplishments , he has not taken on Wall Street as a real Democrat would do, and not only has he not taken on the CIA and the military-indust rial complex, he may have more or less ended the war in Iraq but he has started about six more wars including the smashing of Libya and the murder of Gaddafi for which he (and Hillary Clinton) should face war crimes charges. I don't know why Democrats aren't signing Republican Congressman Walter Jones impeachment resolution. It's a bi-partisan issue. Needless to say the fact that he signed a law allowing him to assassinate American citizens of his choosing without benefit of judge or jury makes me nervous. What is wrong with you people?
 
 
+2 # brux 2012-09-06 20:57
So you're gonna vote Romney?
You're not a "real Roosevelt Democrat".
 
 
0 # pietheyn 2012-09-06 21:10
Are you going to vote? If so, for who?
 
 
0 # vgirl1 2012-09-09 05:02
Note to all non-voters:

If one doesn't vote, one is effectively voting by proxy in support of all those who do. If one doesn't vote, never complain about who wins and loses, because as a non-voter, one has turned over one's future and the direction of the nation to those who vote, whatever that future brings. Not voting is NOT a protest vote. It is a vote for whomever happens to win.
 
 
+2 # indian weaver 2012-09-07 04:50
Exactly. We need to keep all of this up front of our discussions, otherwise we endorse his destruction of civil rights in america. He is really a terrorist having signed off on NDAA, and now launching drones above us right here. He's two faced and weak, sold out the moment he stepped foot into the Black House. He appears to be just another human manifestation of cowardice, and is not a leader but follower, of the money. He has manifested no power or vision.
 
 
+2 # tonywicher 2012-09-06 18:48
I'm listening to Obama's speech now and he's telling me that we have stopped Al Qaeda and killed bin Laden. Except that Al Qaeda now running what used to be Libya and they are being shipped in from all over the place to smash Syria. Too bad they fed bin Laden's body to the sharks in accord with ancient Muslim tradition so we will never know if it was really him. Oh well...
 
 
0 # indian weaver 2012-09-07 04:53
Exactly again. Obama's destruction of international laws, the Geneva Convention, our Constitution in taking out bin laden with his invasion of another country's sovereignty may have seems justice to some in america, or most in america, but it was just another assassination putting him in league with bin laden but worse. Obama is horribly abusing his power, and americans are worse off for it. We citizens can no longer travel the world in peace and safety because of not only dubya, but obama the dubya jr. in many ways.
 
 
+5 # shraeve 2012-09-06 21:02
Tom Haydn conveniently forgot to mention Libya.

Libya was the most progressive country in Africa. In the years that Qaddafi ruled Libya life expectancy in that country increased by 20 years, to 77, a life expectancy only one year less than that in the USA.

Libya also has more oil than any other country in Africa, and almost all of it is concentrated in a small corner in the northeast of the country, which is where all the "rebels" came from.

Britain has a rapidly dwindling supply of North Sea oil and France has no oil. Those two countries were weak remnants of their once mighty imperialist selves, but they got Obama to support them in an imperialist oil grab. It was not an Arab Spring. Egypt's government fell in two-and-a-half weeks. Tunisia's government fell in three days. Neither country had any military involvement from abroad.

It took NATO, using 200 US cruise missiles and innumerable air bombing missions, six months to conquer Libya. I read that 24,000 Libyans were killed. Those people were fighting for their country. This was naked imperialism, totally indifferent to the lives of non-Western people when grabbing their natural resources.

Those Libyan "rebels" (imperialist puppets) lynch black Africans, something that never happened during Qaddafi's reign.

I voted for Obama in 2008. Now I feel a visceral loathing for him.
 
 
+4 # Corazone 2012-09-06 21:44
While I usually have the greatest respect for Tom Hayden, he totally ignores Obama's abominable record on civil liberties and his persecution of whistleblowers. How can you truly be a progressive, a member of the radical left (or whatever you want to label yourself) and not deplore these policies. Hayden also ignores his close aliance with Wall Street and fails to note that Obama never even considered single-payer, even if only used as a negotiating position. Finally, he says nothing about the Obama sellout on the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy. We're only seeing him reverse himself now that he's facing a tough re-election battle. While I support Obama for re-election, I won't stop criticizing him and neither should Hayden.
 
 
+2 # seeuingoa 2012-09-06 21:58
How can any liberal vote for
someone with a kill list ?
 
 
-2 # seeuingoa 2012-09-07 00:10
V O T E F O R O B A M A




so we can have four more years with
kill list
drones
fracking
tar sand pipeline
arctic drilling
taxcut for the rich
violation of 1st amendment

(wow ! this is a difficult one for the
hardcore supporters. How can they put
a thumbs down on a comment with this
headline.)
 
 
+3 # PaineRad 2012-09-07 00:52
I disagree with Tom's basic premise that white liberals are missing the basic achievements of Pres. Obama.

I think that Tom is missing the basic issues and challenges that were left unmet. I do not complain about what Pres. Obama did not achieve. I complain about what he did not even try to achieve. I have no idea what he might have obtained had he not given up so much territory before he even went toe to toe with the GOP.

Given the staggering scope of the economic downturn, the stimulus he proposed was inadequate. Yes, it was something. But it was not sufficient. Pres. Obama squandered his best opportunity to right the ship and only ended up refueling the bilge pump while hoping to find a port before it sinks. The recovery is still far from certain and is certainly far from complete.

The health care reform was a colossal miscalculation on at least two grounds. 1. By ditching single-payer before the opening bell, we ended up with a mishmash thousands of confusing pages long and that did too little and saved too little.
2. By endorsing the Clintonesque approach of incremental band-aid reforms, he gave his opponents their openings for which he had no effective response. How do you pitch in 15 or 30 seconds the contents of thousands of pages of minutia, most of which will not touch anyone's life, provide anyone with benefits they can see, for four years?
 
 
+1 # PaineRad 2012-09-07 01:14
Then there are the trade, Wall Street and civil liberties issues. We are currently being threatened with the Trans-Pacific Partnership. This has frequently been called NAFTA on steroids and will circumvent our courts and neuter our democracy.

No one on Wall Street has been prosecuted for anything related to this economic catastrophe. We know that countless securities laws were broken. We know that mortgage recording laws were broken. We know that disclosure laws were broken. Still no one has been prosecuted.

The provisions of section 1201 of the NDAA are, I believe, a threat to every ideal upon which this country was founded. This president lobbied Congress to include this provision. This administration has argued in the courts for the most astonishing right-wing attacks on the Bill of Rights.

Considering the half hearted response to the Republican Great Recession, he doomed tens of millions of us to a decade of un- and underemployment and involuntary retirement.

These are my issues with this president. I do not begrudge him his successes. He has had some. But considering the scope of the challenges and opportunities, his responses have been far more superficial and illusory than real.

Had he fought for the things he campaigned on, may not have achieved more. But he never really tried. That is his greatest failure. That is the cause of our sense of betrayal.
 
 
0 # tedrey 2012-09-07 05:13
BOTH parties are unacceptable. (The Republicans have NOT protested against NDAA, TPP, civil liberty assaults . . . they hope to use all these themselves. As for drones, torture, and secret wars, their only complaint is that the people should not have been allowed to know of their existence.)

There are two mafia-type mobs fighting to control the "city" of America. The next question is, do we:

1: Give the reins over to one mob (which?), and hope they play nice for a change?

2: Sit it out, and bask in our righteousness?

3. Raise an immediate revolution, and get the most dedicated of us wiped out (by both parties) for at least a generation?

Or 4. Play all our available cards (local and national, economic and political, voting and activist) to weaken both mobs and educate the nation?

We can weaken one mob by voting against them on one day in November. The next day, we turn everything we can muster against the other mob.

To vote is not necessarily to acccept legitimacy. In this case it can say "Now we've only got one load of manure to shovel out of the way!"

IMHO
 
 
0 # Lolanne 2012-09-07 10:22
>>To vote is not necessarily to acccept legitimacy. In this case it can say "Now we've only got one load of manure to shovel out of the way!"
 
 
+3 # Lolanne 2012-09-07 14:41
Quoting Lolanne:
>>To vote is not necessarily to acccept legitimacy. In this case it can say "Now we've only got one load of manure to shovel out of the way!"

OK, I'll try again, since RSN did not post my comment the first time.
You have said in this post, in different words, what I've been saying for months: first, we have to get Obama re-elected and give him a Congress that actually wants to work FOR the country instead of AGAINST the President.
Then, once we have a Dem majority, we have to hold their feet to the fire! If they got elected, they know their actions have consequences. One of those is being voted out next time if they ignore their constituency. Another is through group action of all kinds: letters, petitions, faxes, phone calls, plus get out in the street and make noise! Take it to them every time they're home on break if you can't travel to DC while they're there.

There are lots more of us than there are of the corporations who appear to have bought our government, and we CAN change things!
 
 
-4 # orwell, by george 2012-09-07 06:01
a vote for obama is a vote to continue murdering foreigners and betraying troops.
 
 
+4 # JCM 2012-09-07 21:24
I'm sure Romney will do a lot better. Not
 
 
-4 # NotSure 2012-09-07 10:45
We should be saving ourselves from Obama and the Democratic Party. President Obama, the economy aside, has not been able to live up to the high office of President of these United States. He has been too willing to compromise with the Party that ran up the deficit. It is a good time to remember that it was both sides of the aisle that sent us to war in Iraq. It was President Bill Clinton, who is campaigning for Obama and preaching about deregulation, that broke the Glass-Steagall Act. President Clinton is also a big fan of Keystone XL Pipeline. The White House has approved the lower leg. Anyone who thinks that TransCanada will not complete the project is not using logic. Obama adopted an all-of-the-abov e energy policy and the serious issue of tackling Global Warming has been been abandoned by the Democratic Platform. In fact the DNC which was brought to us by Duke Energy(think coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear power) and Global Warming was mentioned only a single time during 80 speeches. The Obama administration is also fighting a federal judge to keep the power to indefinitely detain US citizens. Early in Obama's presidency, he was negotiating the TPP(during the economic collapse) which will make multi-national corporations above the law. Obama's campaign slogan went from Hope and Change to It Could have Been Worse. Please take a look at Presidential Candidate Rocky Anderson. He has a proven record and backbone. Learn more @ www.voterocky.org
 
 
0 # JCM 2012-09-07 21:22
Realisticly, if you vote for anyone but Obama you risk letting Romney win.
 
 
+2 # Edwina 2012-09-08 07:45
I would ask the author, how has "winning from the center" worked out? For decades the Democrats have pointed to the Republicans as the reason we have to vote for them. Meanwhile, they have moved steadily to the right, and into the camp of the economic elite. We have been put in the position of defending the crumbs dropped from the tables of the privileged, rather than demanding our due as creators of the wealth of this country, and as full citizens in our political system. If the left & progressives thought Obama would save the country, they know better now. As he so clearly said then, "It's up to you -- make me do it".
 
 
+3 # medusa 2012-09-08 13:20
It seems clear enough that Romney wants to attack Iran. Obama has been resisting this. My vote for him there.
Second, I can't forget how our allies loathed us in the last months of Bush's rule. This too has been reversed. We're still confused, but voting Romney is suicide.
 
 
0 # punch 2012-09-12 10:49
Man, this article is something. Frankly I don't even think it's honest.

"Civil liberties and human rights groups who are vociferous against the drones still refuse to oppose the Afghan war itself"
"Such groups also oppose the assassinations of Al Qaeda leaders and the prosecution of whistleblowers without opposing the underlying wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen."

Really!? Every progressive I hear who is against Obama, is against all these wars. That Hayden says otherwise makes it seem like he's just desperately trying to spin his story to justify Obama.

"It may only be a matter of legitimate disappointment after the utopian expectations of 2008."

I'm so tired of hearing about this notion that progressives who are against Obama, are just disappointed because of our high hopes. I didn't have any high hopes in the first place! I was a realist back then like now, and I believed in Chomsky who said that Obama would be no different than any of the other nominees to Democratic presidential candidate. The only ones of that bunch who I actially WOULD have high hopes for, were Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel. They actually stood for something different. No, Obama performed quite as expected, taking into account his record and his sponsors. Well, I don't think anyone suspected that he would be quite that hard on whistle blowers and transparency.

Too much more drivel in this article than I can stomach to respond to.
 

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