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Tomasky writes: "So the Ryan-Romney ticket, as it should properly be called, has to say things like 'we want government to do the things it does well' ... Because they can't tell the truth and hope to get elected."

Paul Ryan has to tell us what we want to hear, not the truth to get elected. (photo: Getty Images)
Paul Ryan has to tell us what we want to hear, not the truth to get elected. (photo: Getty Images)



Why Republicans Have to Lie

By Michael Tomasky, The Daily Beast

16 August 12

 

f I were writing a political novel about a presidential campaign, I would never dare have the government-hating, free-market, Rand-adulating vice presidential candidate of the right-wing party have inherited his fortune from a grandfather who made his money from government contracts. It's too obvious, too pat. A fiction editor would say, "Come on, Tomasky, this is just too heavy-handed."

Especially if the same candidate and his running mate were attacking the other guy with a lie that specifically distorted what he'd said about, of all things, roads and bridges! ("You didn't build that.") Grandpappy Ryan did exactly what Obama says other people did to help small businesses thrive. He built the roads. And he was paid to do so by government contracts. Forget fiction. That's even too pat for Hollywood.

Ryan tries to address this by saying there's no contradiction between the source of his wealth and his views because of course he's not anti-government, that's a caricature of his views, etc etc. This is absurd. No one who got into politics because of some arrested-development reaction to reading Ayn Rand is pro-government. He can talk pretty to Ryan Lizza, knowing that he's talking to New Yorker readers, and try to pass himself off as nuanced, but there's nothing nuanced about the numbers.

Back in 2001, Paul O'Neill wrote some talking points as debate prep for Dubya. As Jon Chait wrote in my journal, Democracy, of those talking points:

One frankly conceded, “The public prefers spending on things like health care and education over cutting taxes. It’s crucial that your remarks make clear that there is no trade-off here.”

Put more bluntly, what O'Neill was saying here is: You have to lie. By definition, you have to lie. You can't tell people that tax-cutting will result in less money for these programs, which is the truth, so you/we Republicans have to invent a fiction of no trade-offs, of a free market that can deliver everything. What Bush delivered to us was essentially no net job growth in eight years and the worst crisis in 80.

So the Ryan-Romney ticket, as it should properly be called, has to say things like "we want government to do the things it does well." Romney has to say things like he said on TV this morning, "No one is talking about deregulating Wall Street," when in fact he is talking about exactly that. Because they can't tell the truth and hope to get elected.

"What we're going to do here is make sure society's very richest people have a lot more money. Our theory is they will spend it and that will help the whole economy. History hasn't been kind to this idea, but it's our theory and we're sticking to it. These are the people who pay us to run, after all. Besides which, we really don't like poor people; we think at bottom that it's their fault they're poor, so it doesn't really matter to us whether anything trickles down to them." That's the truth. How would that sell?

 

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-133 # universlman 2012-08-16 12:46
and how about: Liberals are trying to destroy the country and they must be exposed as traitors and their voting power permanently purged from this otherwise Godly country.
 
 
+84 # pernsey 2012-08-16 13:34
Quoting universlman:
and how about: Liberals are trying to destroy the country and they must be exposed as traitors and their voting power permanently purged from this otherwise Godly country.


You have no defense for your party, this article isnt about liberals, but it is about why the GOP has to lie to get elected. Somehow that doesnt bother you?
 
 
-93 # universlman 2012-08-16 14:28
Sorry pernsey, I was caught up in the moment and could not resist adding one more lie to Tomasky's list of right-wing "truths" that are repackaged for the media to sell.

Officially the statement would read: "Misguided tax and spend liberal policies are unsustainable and will eventually bankrupt the country."
 
 
+65 # mdhome 2012-08-16 21:12
What do you have to say about tax cut and spend and borrow Republicans?? Surely they are out to destroy the economy like Hoover 80 years ago.
 
 
-46 # JackB 2012-08-17 09:47
Spend & borrow Republicans? It's Divine Barry who is working his ass off to bury this country in debt & he is not a Republican.
 
 
+30 # X Dane 2012-08-17 12:01
JackB.

So "Divine Barry" is working his ass off to bury this country in debt"??

Bush buried us in debt with the GREATEST of ease. He didn't break a sweat: starting, and carrying on two WARS, a BIG MEDICAL GIVE AWAY and an enormous TAX CUT for the WEALTHIESST

......AND putting the whole Shebang on the credit card??? Because I am sure, he realized that if people had to PAY the taxes to pay for it, there would have been BIG protests. And he wanted NO interference.

Unfortunately our people were too stupid....sorry folks ...there IS no other words for it... to protest. Did people not realize, that ALL THAT MONEY was an OUTSTANDING BILL?? that would HAVE to be paid??? particularly since all the money was BORROWED??

The country nearly went off the cliff when BUSH caused the house of cards to come tumbling down. Obama has tried...not always successfully... to fix the BLOODY MESS LEFT BY BUSH.

And NOW you scream bloody murder???? It is about 8 YEARS TOO LATE. WAKE UP JACKB ...And the rest of the angry Obama bashers.
 
 
-33 # JackB 2012-08-17 13:08
X-Dane.

I responded to a statement about Republicans being about spending & borrowing. I am not denying Bush increased the debt. It is a matter of record. It is also a matter of record that Divine Barry has, from the beginning, gone on a record setting spending spree & is still clamoring to raise the debt even higher.

As I pointed out - he is not a Republican. Liberal Democrats may feel that absolves him of any charges of running the debt through the ceiling but I consider him responsible for his actions.

Now you can re-issue your little diatribe & include Barry.
 
 
+26 # X Dane 2012-08-17 14:47
JackB.

Take a look at England. They are ONLY cutting, and they are getting deeper into recession. You can not make money without spending money. We actually did TOO little right after the bank blow out.

We should spend money on all the infrastructure needing repair. With many more people getting to work the economy will come back to life.

I started a business, so I KNOW what I am talking about. My business I gave to my daughter, when I retired. It is very successful. It is women who start and run a lot of our country's businesses.
 
 
+9 # bingers 2012-08-19 09:54
Quoting JackB:
X-Dane.

I responded to a statement about Republicans being about spending & borrowing. I am not denying Bush increased the debt. It is a matter of record. It is also a matter of record that Divine Barry has, from the beginning, gone on a record setting spending spree & is still clamoring to raise the debt even higher.

As I pointed out - he is not a Republican. Liberal Democrats may feel that absolves him of any charges of running the debt through the ceiling but I consider him responsible for his actions.

Now you can re-issue your little diatribe & include Barry.


As I pointed out in my last reply to you, Obama isn't the one increasing spending. He also isn't a liberal, he's more conservative than Eisenhower by far. He's just not a wacko wing nut like the guys your side worships.
 
 
+9 # pernsey 2012-08-17 17:41
Bravo X-Dane well said!
 
 
+7 # carp 2012-08-19 08:11
Quoting JackB:
Spend & borrow Republicans? It's Divine Barry who is working his ass off to bury this country in debt & he is not a Republican.

Why do republicans INSIST on calling Obama a messiah and now Divine Barry? You see this on all levels from the GOP and it's factions. I realize the office of the president is no longer considered sacred r but the disrespect for Obama and the office he holds is astounding.
 
 
+11 # bingers 2012-08-19 09:55
It's the ingrained racism of a large percentage of the Republican party
 
 
+12 # bingers 2012-08-19 09:51
Quoting JackB:
Spend & borrow Republicans? It's Divine Barry who is working his ass off to bury this country in debt & he is not a Republican.


Obama has increased spending less than any president since Eisenhower and most of the debt run up under him comes from paying for the off budget debt Bush ran up. So, you're lying through your teeth just like every conservative in the country. You should take a lesson from conservatives in other countries who largely agree with our Democrats on most things.
 
 
-30 # JackB 2012-08-17 10:17
- All bills online before he signs them.
- Congressional Health negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.
- End earmarks.
- Keep unemployment from rising above 8%.
- Close Guantanamo in his first year.
- Make peace with no pre-condition talks with our enemies in his first year.
- End the hiring of former lobbyists into White House jobs.
- End no-compete contracts with the government.
- Disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.

With a completely blank resume Divine Barry had no record to run on so he simply lied.

Of course we know that none of those lies were Barry's fault. They were the fault of Bush; Republicans; Conservatives; The Tooth Fairy; The Easter Bunny & The Ghosts of Christmases past.
 
 
+29 # jimbeama 2012-08-17 11:30
In your haste to point out his failure to keep campaign promises, you have failed to note where he tried to do these very things but was blocked by the right wing congress. Wanted a $1.6T - $2.0T stimulus bill got about $5B plus $3B in tax cuts. If that larger stimulous would have been provided you would see a much lower unemployment rate. Congress would not provide funding to move prisoners from Gitmo so how could he close it? It goes on and on. If you pay attention as it seems you do then you know the republicans have done everything they can to prevent Obama from doing *ANYTHING*. So rant if you must but be honest about how things do or do not happen.
 
 
-25 # JackB 2012-08-17 13:09
Sorry. A bit of history. For his first two years he had a Democrat controlled Congress.
 
 
+17 # rockieball 2012-08-18 05:12
And that was where the Republicans used the Filibuster and had Representatives like Bunning stand up and say "I Object" to everything. Also sure they had a majority but 2/3's one to pass bills. The President bent over backwards trying to compromise and they bent this country forwards and gave to use up the you know what. Heck they even voted against their own proposals
 
 
+2 # X Dane 2012-08-20 09:28
rockiabilly@yahoo.co

THANKS A MILLION for pointing this out. It is constantly OVERLOOKED, even by democrats.
I do remember how Obama tried.. only to be shot down by the republicans, In addition one of the dem. senators had a serious health issue and was out, Also Sen. Kennedy was ill so there were all kinds of problems
 
 
+11 # carp 2012-08-19 08:17
Quoting JackB:
Sorry. A bit of history. For his first two years he had a Democrat controlled Congress.

Bush had six years of a republican congress and lo and behold we find that Gingrich and others like him were behind the scenes manipulating and lobbying against reform in the housing dept taking big payoffs to do so.
 
 
+8 # bingers 2012-08-19 09:59
Quoting JackB:
Sorry. A bit of history. For his first two years he had a Democrat controlled Congress.


No, not in reality. He had a filibuster proof congress for a matter of weeks and got most of his agenda passed. But Norm Coleman refused to give up a fight he knew he couldn't win to prevent Al Franken from being seated and Ted Kennedy was sent to the hospital shortly before he died, and that was the end of the filibuster proof congress. After that Republicans had 41 votes for filibusters and they represented only 16% of the people. So JackB, another lie!
 
 
+3 # kbarrand 2012-08-19 12:44
Jack. You need to pay more attention. These days you cannot control Congress with less than 60 Senate votes.
 
 
+4 # pamitty 2012-08-19 11:26
Google Obama's accomplishments with citations. I printed it out and there were 16 pages, they are all good things, and he has keep far more of his promises that did manage to get past GOP obstruction.
That didn't exactly explain the ""Devine Barry" and the other adjectives that indicate that some one thinks he is a god or something.
The GOP has to lie and Cheat to get elected. I have eyes and ears, I see what is going on.
Oh, and the GOP loves his middle name. They always say Hussein, like it was some kind of dirty word. I like it because it sounds like "who's sane".
Saying "the tooth fairy, Easter bunny and the ghosts of Christmas past" is a stupid thing to say.
I would ask what part of "giving more tax cuts to the super rich and that the middle class foots the bill for a tune of $2,000 each, to pay for their little "gift from the GOP do you like??
 
 
+13 # terrison 2012-08-17 10:50
Quote:
You have no defense for your party, this article isnt about liberals, but it is about why the GOP has to lie to get elected. Somehow that doesnt bother you?
I think maybe universlman has been misunderstood here? I read his post, and the one following as extensions of the article. I could be wrong, of course, but is it possible that he's speaking as a liberal, but quoting what Ryan/Romney would say if they were telling what they believe is the truth?
 
 
+10 # universlman 2012-08-17 11:12
Thank you terrison - This is my most misunderstood comment so far but you got it. People seem a mite touchy these days.
 
 
+7 # pernsey 2012-08-17 17:45
Hey Universlman, I read your post many times and it was hard to tell if you were being sarcastic or if you were downing being a liberal. It wasnt clear when I posted, thanks for clearing it up.
 
 
+1 # bingers 2012-08-19 10:01
Quoting universlman:
Thank you terrison - This is my most misunderstood comment so far but you got it. People seem a mite touchy these days.


I figured that might have been the case so I held off on giving an up or down on it.
 
 
+48 # David P 2012-08-16 20:34
Quoting universlman:
and how about: Liberals are trying to destroy the country and they must be exposed as traitors and their voting power permanently purged from this otherwise Godly country.

Yep, we must return this country to the rich, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Is that what you meant to say? I'm so glad you like to strip rights from people you disagree with. That's the right wing agenda anyway, as shown by their voter purging.
 
 
+52 # KrazyFromPolitics 2012-08-16 22:33
Quoting universlman:
and how about: Liberals are trying to destroy the country and they must be exposed as traitors and their voting power permanently purged from this otherwise Godly country.

Clinton actually asked Gingrich why Republicans always lie and, Gingrich laughed and said, "If we told the truth, we would never get elected". Those of you that evoke the favor that the gods have for you are some of the most un-Christ-like, un-Bhudda-like, un-Yaweh-like, et al persons in existence.
 
 
+24 # Todd Williams 2012-08-17 04:05
Jack boots and white hooded robes. I'm disgusted.
 
 
+19 # AndreM5 2012-08-17 07:14
I think they are missing your point of irony, which is easy to do on blogs.

Universlman is simply composing one more Repub lie that gets repeated in the media as if true. Entire networks and fake "tv ministries" are dedicated to spewing this lie.

He deserves thumbs up, not down.
 
 
+13 # Majikman 2012-08-17 08:21
Absolutely, AndreM5.
 
 
0 # pamitty 2012-08-19 12:26
It is Really hard to tell. I have a slight irony-understan ding problem. I don't vote much up or down because it IS so hard to tell.
 
 
+5 # jimbeama 2012-08-17 11:23
This is a joke post right? It's not a good one. I assume it's a joke because you make baseless statements like "Liberals are trying to destroy the country" Why would we do that? Why would you do that? No examples? No motive? No point!
 
 
+5 # bingers 2012-08-19 10:04
Quoting jimbeama:
This is a joke post right? It's not a good one. I assume it's a joke because you make baseless statements like "Liberals are trying to destroy the country" Why would we do that? Why would you do that? No examples? No motive? No point!


Well, conservatives do it to gain power by falsely blaming Obama for what they have done. They don't mind destroying the country because that doesn't affect their real base. Liberals care about the rich and poor alike, so it never occurs to destroy the country.
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-08-19 12:19
In a delusional parallel universe. If treason were the point then the economic policies of the right that consistently take the economy downs (Gilded Age, Roaring Twenties and Voo Doo Economics that have been killing the middle class since 1980) and the Benedict Arnold billionaires who get special legislation to repatriate for a fraction of their true tax rate assets kept off shore after having already received special interest tax credits and deductions, should be criminally prosecuted as terrorists and traitors then imprisoned in Guantanamo for life. Ordinary human beings know that everybody has to have some skin in the game. The lunatic fringe on the right, as propagandized by the "Koke machine," demand that all the skin come from ordinary citizens so that the 1% plutocrats and oligarchs can continue to dominate. The fact that 400 people in this country have the wealth of 150 million in a country of 325 million (+/-) says all that need be said.
 
 
+62 # pernsey 2012-08-16 13:40
Republicans have to lie, because if they told the truth no one would vote for them. The only way they get votes is by lying and propaganda...wh ich basically is lying, manipulation of facts, and mind control. Fox News is the medium they get all their nonsense out there.

The right wing has no defense for their party so they just continually attack Obama, stay on topic this is about the lying GOP I know you have no defense for them either.

GOP = Greedy One Percent...thats who they represent.
 
 
+22 # Independentgal 2012-08-17 05:05
Let's not forget another tremendous source of "news" -- Rush Limbaugh. He's pretty good at hatred too and unfortunately still has an extremely devoted following that believes everything he says is fact.
 
 
+18 # pernsey 2012-08-17 06:33
Quoting Independentgal:
Let's not forget another tremendous source of "news" -- Rush Limbaugh. He's pretty good at hatred too and unfortunately still has an extremely devoted following that believes everything he says is fact.


Yeah Rush makes a lot of money spewing his hatred, and the right wing are so eager to believe whatever that disgusting excuse for a humanbeing says. Most of it is literally made up lies, I hear the righties just repeating out and out lies but because Rush or Fox news said it, they assume its the truth, or they want it to be the truth, so they never actually hunt down the facts.
 
 
+12 # jimbeama 2012-08-17 11:33
And then he says "think for your self" which his ditoheads then dutifully repeat as if they thought of it themselves. Cracks me up!
 
 
+9 # James Smith 2012-08-17 11:54
Even better, if you ask them how they know, they often say, "I heard it somewhere." Not only can't they remember where they received their brainwashing, they assume that, "hearing it somewhere" makes it true. I am not surprised so many of them are members of the religious reich.
 
 
+14 # X Dane 2012-08-17 07:49
Independentgal.

SO MANY are in deep pain because of their world crumbling,... loosing jobs, health, home... An awful lot of people are.
Scum like Limbaugh, Beck and the rest of the hate spreaders, feed of that despair and feed hatred TO the unfortunate people.

When they...with good reason... are scared and angry... these monsters give voice to their fear and despair, and further destroy and divide the country. And THAT makes it a LOT harder for us to get ahead.

Limbaugh and company ARE UNPATRIOTIC. IF they loved our country, they would find ways to help, NOT damage the country.
Instead these bastards are making MILLIONS destroying US, and us
 
 
+77 # davidr 2012-08-16 14:46
Liars depend upon the credulity of their listeners, and in many cases, Republicans are talking to the most credulous among us: birthers, young earthers and Biblical literalists, home schoolers, supply siders and free market fundamentalists , American exceptionalists , neocon yellowcakers — idealogues of various stripes for whom truth need never be empirical.

So if, as a matter of conviction, your audience disdains fact-based argument, then why on earth would you do anything except lie to them? To do otherwise would offend them.
 
 
+13 # AndreM5 2012-08-17 07:23
It is not fair to call them lies. Afterall, facts are just relativist opinions anyway, right? We are entitled to our own facts by the grace of god (lower-case "g" because we don't want to be irreverant). As we understand it, facts are only of interest to those science geeks so we know facts must be wrong. Facts are an act of faith, not of knowledge or truth. At least I think that's what Ralp Reed told me. Or was it the Beckster, or Bachmann, or the Pitbull, maybe the Savage One, Murdock? I don't recall but it doesn't matter anyway.
 
 
+46 # leedeegirl 2012-08-16 15:13
reminds me of the song "Dogs" by Pink Floyd:

"You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
So that when they turn their backs on you
You'll get the chance to put the knife in"
 
 
-21 # MidwestTom 2012-08-16 19:49
I think that the both parties lie to get elected. We are presently borrowing 41 cents for every dollar that we spend. Lack of taxing is a part of the problem, but drastically raising the taxes still will not balance the budget. The more we borrow from ourselves, thus 'printing' money, the more power we transfer to the bankers. Taxes should go up and spending should be cut, or we will all be slaves to our government which is controlled by bankers.
 
 
+57 # Majikman 2012-08-16 22:06
I'm all for cutting spending....Mil itary...cut it wide, deep and often.
 
 
+13 # AndreM5 2012-08-17 07:26
It is hard to argue with that, regardless of which party you lean towards.

But the plainest truth is still that we are the wealthiest nation on earth with vastly more wealth than needed to pay our bill and balance the budget. The giveaways to the 1%, Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big War could stop tomorrow and just about do the trick.
 
 
+4 # X Dane 2012-08-17 10:53
Wow Tom.
This is the first time I have to agree with you, and i expect to get red marks too, but we are so used to see outrageous comments from you.

Yes, we have to both raise taxes, and make cuts. I would say less on the middle class. BUT we are all in this together and we should all do what we can, and we should also enact the Robin Hood Tax..(look it up, it makes sense)
 
 
+47 # PABLO DIABLO 2012-08-16 19:49
"You can fool some of the people some of the time. And that is enough to make a good living." --- W.C.Fields
 
 
-22 # JackB 2012-08-17 13:55
Works for Obama
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-08-18 15:49
Let me try that:

blah blah blah Obama!

blah blah blah Divine Barry

Are you an out of work comedy writer?
 
 
+53 # michelle 2012-08-16 21:26
Found a political postcard in my mailbox this morning from Dan Lungren, the republican running for office in my district. His big lie was laughable. The republicans are 'fighting to save medicare' from the evil democrats out to destroy it. The big lie about medicare is the latest republican talking point. Goebbels was right. Say it loud enough, big enough and long enough and idiots will believe it. I'm sure it is being reported as fact all over Fox Views. The republicans are so outrageous this election cycle I cannot believe anyone can fall for their bald faced lies.
 
 
+23 # Independentgal 2012-08-17 05:11
Your mention of Goebbels reminded me of an exhibit on propaganda at the Holocaust Museum in DC. While viewing the exhibit, it struck me that what the Republicans use as talking points is the type of propaganda that the Nazis used. The realization was actually shocking; I'm not one to call the Republicans Nazis.
 
 
+15 # X Dane 2012-08-17 07:22
Independantgal.

The fact that the Nazi propaganda seemed so like the republican one, is, I think, because the aim... in propaganda.... is to find scapegoats to demonize, and then hammer, and hammer on them. Unfortunately, it is a lot easier to unite people AGAINST A PERCEIVED ENEMY, than to work for a common good.
 
 
+15 # tswhiskers 2012-08-17 08:31
it struck me that what the Republicans use as talking points is the type of propaganda that the Nazis used. The realization was actually shocking; I'm not one to call the Republicans Nazis.
Why not call them fascists? They're not Nazis but your mention of Goebbels is not unfounded. Reps know how distasteful their true agenda must be to the lower and middle classes. Therefore what else to do but lie about it? No one of the chattering classes has mentioned what the Reps.' ultimate goal might be, given their actual policies of enriching the rich, destroying social programs that most of us depend on, and increasing taxes on the lower and middle classes. I can only see that the Reps. want to undo democratic govt. in this country almost entirely. They've made a good beginning with the voter ID laws and are actively destroying unions wherever possible. Abortion and birth control are heavily under fire now too. I've said repeatedly that Reps. want to turn America into Mexico north, i.e. most of the money and power at the very top with little left to the vast majority of the population. I have just heard that 3 senators now want to repeal the 17th Amendment which gives the people of each state the right to elect their own U.S. senators. Formerly, they were elected by state senators. Can any thinking person look at the Rep. agenda and come to another conclusion?
 
 
+12 # CAMUS1111 2012-08-17 10:13
who says they aren't Nazis?
 
 
+21 # X Dane 2012-08-16 22:00
As much as I detest what the right wing nasty T bag republicans have done to the country, I have to be honest.

The republicans are certainly not the only ones lying to us. ALL candidates do, If they told the truth, they would not have a chance of winning.... Voters will NOT hear the truth, will NOT face facts,

We get the leaders we deserve. There is no doubt in my mind that taxes should be raised on us ALL. You can not keep cutting taxes with all that needs to be done to restore our failing infrastructure.

Our taxes are the lowest they have been since Eisenhower's time, and we can not afford it with the enormous debt we have.

Social security and especially medicare needs to be worked on. I do not know exactly WHAT has to be done. Some of our brightest people should look at the options, present them to us. Really explain, what we need to do, and what will happen if we DON'T and the country should vote on it.

It should be done by unemotional economists, NOT politicians, for they CAN NOT be honest. They have too much at stake, too much loose.
It is time for our country to grow up and
face the music.

I fully expect a rain of red, for as I said NO one wants to face the unpleasant facts. Anyone speaking the unvarnished truth, will "get it".... I can take it
 
 
+13 # AndreM5 2012-08-17 07:31
Social Security and Medicare/Medica id are probably the two easiest fixes in our govt. To fix them with a balanced budget is also simple but it would mean fewer giveaways to the 0.1% and Big Industry.
 
 
+3 # bingers 2012-08-19 10:15
Social Security has never added one cent to the deficit, and any fix needed is simple. Republicans love the flat tax idea (a truly regressive and stupid idea normally) so let's have a flat tax on Social Security, everyone pays on 100% of their income. That will allow it to pay COLAs and 100% of benefits until the Earth is destroyed. And Medicare should be extended to every citizen and the insurance companies shut down. The savings would allow us to get in line with the rest of the developed world and save 50% of our healthcare $s.
 
 
+3 # bingers 2012-08-19 10:10
Find me one single time Bernie Sanders or Sherrod Brown have lied. Every Republican lies well over 95% of every time they speak or write. Romney hasn't said one true thing in the last two years.

I wish Obama would channel Truman and say what Truman said. "I told the Republicans that if they would quit lying about me I'd quit telling the truth about them."
 
 
+7 # Charles3000 2012-08-16 22:47
Unverisalman says: "Officially the statement would read: "Misguided tax and spend liberal policies are unsustainable and will eventually bankrupt the country."
How can bankruptcy happen when the country has the only machine which prints legal money? The big difference between liberals and conservatives is conservatives only know what you can do with money and have not the foggiest idea what it is while liberals understand what you can do with money and what it really is.
 
 
+11 # James Smith 2012-08-17 02:32
Republican or Democrat, they are all politicians so only follow one rule, "Will this help me get (re)elected?" EVerything they think do and say must pass that one filter. Truth, what's good for the country, the wishes and needs of their constituents are meaningless. Only that one rule is significant.
 
 
+12 # hkatzman 2012-08-17 05:17
The odd thing that I have been trying to figure out is, that while we all know that Republicans lie, why is it that Democrats believe them?

If Democrats did not believe Republican lies, then why would they be debating these points and thus give them credibility? Democrats concur with lower taxes, not cutting military waste, that welfare waste is destroying our country, that medicare needs reform.

I am waiting for Democrats with guts, who will stand up and say "the emperor has not clothes!" Instead they also treat us as underdeveloped children who want rights with no offsetting responsibilitie s. The result is an economy owned by the banksters and failing because most of us cannot also participate in OUR economy.

Thank you to the legacy of that "great communicator", the telling of fairy tales, Ronald Reagan.
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-08-17 06:36
This article is closely related to the one about "Overt Discrimination in Ohio":

http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/278-76/12946-overt-discrimination-in-ohio

Simple reason for the lying. It's the only way for them to win. They hope our entire electoral process will be a lie so they can stay in office against the will of the voters.

Of course they're being helped by a few percent of the left who are willing to withhold THEIR OWN votes because the Vulture/Voucher repug ticket isn't scary enough for them.
 
 
+2 # clarion52 2012-08-17 07:14
It is a very rare exception to find a politician, regardless of their stripes, who tells the complete truth. I voted for Obama thinking he was one of the exceptions...af ter Bush, who wouldn't grab hold of "change?!" Did he purposely lie or was he simply too naive regarding the political game? Either way, I won't vote either party this Nov. What we need is an entirely new game....Romney/ Obama....not enough differences to make a difference. GMO's....HAARP. ...Patriot Act...Trade Treaties...on & on...It's going to have to be people on the ground levels...civil disobedience & voting with one's dollars.
The puppet masters stay hidden behind the curtain. Anyone who poses a real threat of making a difference, hasn't a chance....
 
 
+13 # Buddha 2012-08-17 09:10
I think this is the wrong question. EVERYONE knows why the GOP has to lie, its entire platform today is solely geared to the selective enrichment of our Plutocrats even though it is impoverishing the rest of our country. If they really said the truth, they wouldn't get elected except in districts solely with gated communities of rich white people.

The bigger question is: "How are the GOP allowed to get away with lying". And there I say the blame lies square on us Americans. We are sheep, selectively "bred" to be ignorant and compliant. And to quote Calvera from "The Magnificent Seven": "If God didn't want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep". They are allowed to get away with lying because we allow it, we don't have the intellectual ability or curiosity to inform ourselves of the truth (a sad indictment in this "information age" when the truth is easily discoverable), and we ultimately do not punish them electorally when they ARE caught out in the lie.
 
 
+5 # lin96 2012-08-17 12:42
If you build a party that has to lie to exist, then that party has no truthful foundation to stand upon. Paul Ryan's view of what's true is based on an affluent background that harbored no challenges that couldn't be bought out of. He went into politics and has had no other job than that of a priviledged Congressman who is still sheltered from the real world that people without his money exist in as best they can. He's out of touch and have nothing to draw on except priviledge. He'd probably be the first one to say...if I can do it so can everybody else....which of course is a lie and obsurd.
 
 
-16 # JackB 2012-08-17 14:38
Those of you who have been critical of the Republican's fiscal policies may find this interesting.

On Wednesday the Treasury Department released figures on our debt to foreign countries.

It now stands at $5.2923 trillion dollars. That is a 72.3% increase since Barry took office.

Of course it is universally understood that Barry is never at fault so we must blame Bush, Republicans, Conservatives, Tickle-Me-Elmo, Bart Simpson & The Lion King.
 
 
+11 # pernsey 2012-08-17 17:53
JackB we get it you hate Obama and your Fox News masters have told you why. Take a look at how the GOP brainwashes and JackB your our finest example.
 
 
-19 # JackB 2012-08-17 19:03
The GOP brainwashes but the Dems don't. The amusing thing is you probably believe it.

I don't hate Obama. It is my opinion that he is an incompetent egomaniac; a first class liar; a gutless wonder who cannot even take responsibility for his own mistakes; a person with a very questionable moral & ethical compass whose convictions blow in the wind. It is also my opinion that he & Clinton are the only two Presidents whose loyalty to this country I would question. That has nothing to do with where he was born or whether he's a Muslim. I believe his dedication is to Barack Obama & possibly his family. Beyond that I think he is fluid.

But I do not hate him.

I do not watch Fox news. As you point out I agree with most of their positions. I watch the other networks & sometimes CNN. I draw the line on MSNBC. That station is pure trash. I feel that by watching the other stations I may learn something from seeing an opposing point of view. I had hoped for the same thing here but here the Silly Season is 24/7.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-08-18 15:53
Pure trash is making remarks about how someone "might be a Muslim", without anything to back it up, as though being a Muslim is a crime and as though by simply repeating heresay and innuendo you can further your own political agenda.

God (rush?) FORBID you actually talk about facts. Your entire comment history is a pile of empty words with no substance.
 
 
0 # kbarrand 2012-08-19 12:59
So go.
 
 
+6 # drivensnow 2012-08-18 06:14
Who got Osama bin Laden ?? Clinton had him in his sights and walked away...George W. Bush disbanded the CIA dept. that went after ObL and reassigned the analysists..... .who gave the command to "Let's Do It" to the Navy Seals and they rid the world of the worse human being alive at that time. WHO did this ?? Uh huh....Barrack Obama.....USA...USA...USA

Obama/Biden 2012
 

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