RSN June Fundraising
FB Share
Email This Page
add comment
Print

Slater writes: "The Republican strategy here is simply too blatant to be believed, hence the relatively muted press coverage on the issue. Indeed, while Republican lawmakers have been busy undermining the basic rights of Americans for months now, it was not until recent weeks that the New York Times and Washington Post started paying attention."

African Americans have been targeted by Republican voter suppression efforts. (photo: NAACP)
African Americans have been targeted by Republican voter suppression efforts. (photo: NAACP)



The Greatest Election-Stealing Conspiracy in US History

By Alex Slater, Guardian UK

10 August 12

 

n Washington, conventional wisdom is everything. It's the driver of perceptions, and often of self-fulfilling political prophecies. That's why you might notice a guarded confidence amongst the Obama campaign these past few weeks: generally speaking, most realistic experts predict a victory for the president in this November's election.

This perception is reinforced by current polling, some of the most recent being published by Quinnipiac University, the New York Times and CBS News, giving President Obama an edge over Romney in key states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Certainly, it will be a tight race, but by any realistic standard, the money is on Obama to pull out a victory, even narrowly.

But it's exactly the likely closeness of the race that may turn Washington's conventional wisdom on its head on election day. That's because, until relatively recently, political experts and journalists have been oblivious to a widespread and pernicious phenomenon occurring in many critical swing states – one that, unless checked, could erase Obama's electoral edge.

This phenomenon takes the form of a spate of new voter laws: efforts by Republican governors and Republican-controlled state legislatures to pass restrictive new voting rules just in time for election day. As a result, at least 5 million Americans could essentially lose their right to vote, according to the non-partisan Brennan Center in New York.

It's no surprise that these laws are almost uniformly designed to disenfranchise young people and minorities – the very demographics that make up part of Obama's base. And 5 million votes flagrantly stolen from the Democrats, especially in the swing states where Obama currently has the edge, could easily spell a Romney victory.

The Republican strategy here is simply too blatant to be believed, hence the relatively muted press coverage on the issue. Indeed, while Republican lawmakers have been busy undermining the basic rights of Americans for months now, it was not until recent weeks that the New York Times and Washington Post started paying attention.

As well they should, because it's no exaggeration to say that the results of these partisan tactics could make the Floridian recount of 2000 look like a minor political spat. We're looking at an election doomsday scenario that could eclipse any political scandal in American history.

Hyperbole? Not when you examine the new laws more closely. The legislation being passed by Republicans across the country takes various forms, all designed to stop likely Obama voters casting ballots.

The most common tactic is to heavily restrict the types of identification required at polling stations. In Pennsylvania, for example, that means requiring all voters to present very limited types of ID only available from the state's department of transportation. Since many inner-city voters don't drive, or many young voters have out-of-state driver's licenses, these likely Obama voters will all be stopped dead in their tracks before they reach the polling booth. The problem is so severe that the state of Pennsylvania itself has admitted that nearly 10% of voters do not have the required identification. In Philadelphia, an Obama stronghold, that figure is closer to 20%. Attorney General Eric Holder summed it up perfectly when he called these voter ID measures the equivalent of a "poll tax", at the NAACP summit in July.

In Florida, where history proves that less than 1,000 votes can swing a national election, the efforts to stop minorities and the poor from voting are not just limited to new voter identification laws. In fact, voter registration drives have been banned, and early voting, thought to favor Democrats, has been significantly curtailed. Even more worrying is Governor Rick Scott's attempt simply to remove Obama voters from the election rolls. In May, Scott ordered a purge of his state's voter lists, based on drivers' license records, which he acknowledged to be deeply flawed.

As a result, the state's division of elections initially found a mind-boggling 180,000 "ineligible voters" by performing a search of a computer database with inaccurate information. Yet, the purge goes on: the Miami Herald found that 58% of the people in a sample of 2,700 "ineligible" voters were Hispanic, and 14% were black. Whites and Republicans were least likely to be barred from voting. Even a second world war veteran was told he was not a citizen and so to stay away from the voting booth.

Of course, Republicans justify their efforts to suppress the vote by arguing that they're simply preventing illegal voting. That sounds entirely fair – until you consider that the proven occurrence of voter fraud is almost non-existent. In fact, not a single person has ever been prosecuted for voting illegally. Yet, the public seems ambivalent about voter ID laws, which is why similar dirty tricks continue, taking various forms in other competitive states such as Virginia, New Hampshire, Ohio, Wisconsin and North Carolina.

Luckily, progressive groups and the federal government are pushing back. In Pennsylvania, groups like the Advancement Project and the ACLU have filed suit on behalf of 38 plaintiffs, challenging the constitutionality of the new laws in state courts. The Advancement Project is also intervening in Wisconsin, fighting the fact that 78% of young African-American men lack the appropriate ID to vote, for example. The US department of justice is also intervening in Pennsylvania and other states, questioning whether new laws disproportionately discriminate against minorities. And the Obama campaign is acutely aware of the danger, with dozens of staffers in the campaign headquarters and out in the field monitoring daily developments in every critical state.

These counter-efforts are critical, yet the fear among Democrats is that they may not be sufficient to stop the new laws taking effect before the election. That is a significant danger, not only to the legitimacy of the results of the presidential race, but for the very core of America's democratic process. And, of course, it highlights the need for uniform standards across the country that guarantee free and fair elections.

That's a battle for a later date. For now, we can only hope that voters will get wise to the Republican tactics and make every effort to make their voices heard on 6 November.

 

Comments   

We are concerned about a recent drift towards vitriol in the RSN Reader comments section. There is a fine line between moderation and censorship. No one likes a harsh or confrontational forum atmosphere. At the same time everyone wants to be able to express themselves freely. We'll start by encouraging good judgment. If that doesn't work we'll have to ramp up the moderation.

General guidelines: Avoid personal attacks on other forum members; Avoid remarks that are ethnically derogatory; Do not advocate violence, or any illegal activity.

Remember that making the world better begins with responsible action.

- The RSN Team

 
+162 # Richard Raznikov 2012-08-10 11:30
Until recently the experts haven't noticed? Good grief, what sort of experts are these? The sustained, clearly orchestrated attempt to purge voter rolls, deny blacks and the poor the right to vote, has been going on for more than a year.

Is anyone surprised? The 2000 race was crooked when the Supreme Court prevented an honest Florida recount. The 2004 race was fixed when election results in six states were electronically manufactured. These are provable claims. Why should the U.S. suddenly have an honest election?
 
 
+65 # Vardoz 2012-08-10 14:39
We are outraged
 
 
+48 # Observer 47 2012-08-10 21:55
Quoting Richard Raznikov:
The sustained, clearly orchestrated attempt to purge voter rolls, deny blacks and the poor the right to vote, has been going on for more than a year.


It's been going on for a lot more than a year. Ken Blackwell, former Secretary of State in Ohio, implemented many bogus new regulations to skew the vote in favor of the Rethugs in 2004. Most of them were found to be illegal by the courts, but only at the very last minute, when the damage was already done. And I'm sure that vote suppression went on in 2000, as well. This is an old story, and the GOP is getting ever more blatant about it.
 
 
+26 # Glen 2012-08-11 06:01
These methods of eliminating or skewing votes and voters has been in action for decades. From buildings housing ballots, burning to the ground, to registration cards being found in trunks of cards, or downright polling center intimidation, elections have been manipulated a long damn time. Folks either don't know about it or have chosen to think it is just a few corrupt individuals attempting to "take over".

Now, moving on to voting machines...
 
 
+5 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 14:51
Yes, it's easier to hack and manipulate the numbers and cover it up with these voting machines. I mean it's really obvious, yet nothing is being done about it. US taxpayers have shelled out billions for these hackable tech boondoggles. I mean me personally, I like to know what I'm getting for my money and I'm not happy with the results, but it seems there's nothing anyone can do about it, or will do.
 
 
+49 # Jim Young 2012-08-10 23:03
When I mentioned our approaching election in 2010, the visiting Argentine pilot I was talking to said, "What elections? They look like auctions."
 
 
+13 # Glen 2012-08-12 06:34
I have quoted this, Jim. Every person who has heard the quote gives me the "look" and then agrees vociferously!
 
 
+22 # Alexis Fecteau 2012-08-10 23:15
Going on for more than a year? Are you brain dead? It has been in the news since 2000 and the democratic idiots are finally not too afraid to say something about it.

The loss will be fully deserved for their spinelessness.
 
 
+21 # 666 2012-08-11 15:53
do you think we could get some countries that still have legitimate elections to monitor ours?
 
 
+77 # Barbara K 2012-08-10 13:31
How about some lawsuits to stop this behavior? Those being denied their right to vote should be able to sue the ones in the state preventing them from voting, IE: The Governor and Secretary of State or whoever handles the voting in each state. Slap them with so many lawsuits that they couldn't possibly defend themselves against what they are doing. Money does talk.
 
 
+73 # stoher9 2012-08-10 14:45
Screw the lawsuits! There are too many right wing judges in too many places for this strategy to be successful enough to kill this repugnican attack. We need to set a nationwide program in motion to get these disenfranchised voters the ID's, that these Jim Crow laws demand. Billions will be spent on negative advertising this election cycle. A few million dollars spent on getting our voters the IDs they require by providing transportation, help getting the paperwork needed to get the ID anhd the fees for the paperwork & ID will be money well spent on shoving these anti-American laws right up the repugnican bung holes!
 
 
+37 # ghostperson 2012-08-10 19:03
Why not allow people to present their tax returns? That ought to be good enough to show entitlement to participate in our supposed democracy.
 
 
+21 # RMDC 2012-08-11 04:52
Ghost -- you know the answer here. You would disenfranchise the richest 2%. They never show their tax returns, not even Romney whose running for the office.
 
 
+14 # mdhome 2012-08-11 05:49
Trying to keep RoMoney from voting?
 
 
+20 # Observer 47 2012-08-10 21:58
Yes, except that many of the people who are being disenfranchised don't know their rights and don't have the money to file lawsuits.
 
 
+8 # AMLLLLL 2012-08-12 16:57
Actually, there is one 93 year old woman who has been voting for 50 years (voting rights act) who has sued for being denied her right to vote.
 
 
+2 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 14:52
King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell..2004 ......and a lot of good it did, too.
 
 
+74 # humanmancalvin 2012-08-10 13:42
The Radical Right Insurgency is pulling out every dirt, illegal tactic they can in their attempt to 'fix" this race. Especially when they have to hold their own noses to vote for their presumptive nominee.
 
 
+29 # ghostperson 2012-08-10 19:05
The tax exemption of religious and astroturn groups who are effectively lobbying on the taxpayers' dime(s) should be jerked if there is even a sign of political activity.
 
 
+56 # Buddha 2012-08-10 14:15
Unfortunately, the mass disenfranchisem ent may only be fully recognized in the rear mirror, when Romoney wins even though he will be 3-4 points behind in the polls. Obama is going to have to build at least that kind of lead to have a chance to overcome this election fixing by the GOP.

And you can't prove a party's total lack of morality or how its platform only benefits a thin slice of the electorate than mass disenfranchisem ent and throwing election hurdles to geek the election. It is the only way the GOP can win today is to cheat.
 
 
+44 # Pwarren 2012-08-10 14:18
Clearly these "experts" and their backers have forgotten 1967 and the "Report of the Natioal Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders". Ane their concluding remarks:
The only genuine, long-range solution for what has happened lies in an attack - mounted at ever lever - upon the conditions that breed despair and violence. All of us know what those conditions are: ignorance, discrimination, slums, poverty, desease, not enough jobs. We should attack these conditions - not because we are frightened bby conflice, but because we are fired by conscience. We should attack them because there is simply no other way to acheive a decent and orderly society in America....
Lyndon Baines Johnson
July 27, 1967
Here we go again in 2012
 
 
+1 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 20:36
But how does one attack these conditions without communication?

The Net has been a wonder for finding out things far away, but has it interfered with communities and their interactions?
 
 
+43 # stonecutter 2012-08-10 14:24
If someone really intends to vote, and they are stopped at the polling place for reasons of insufficient ID, I hope they just sit down and don't move. I hope they gum up the works, and it happens thousands of times all over the country, and all the major media focus on it. That's what I hope. Because I've become a certified cynic in my third act, what I actually believe will happen is many thousands will be convinced they don't have proper voter ID, and will not even bother as a result.

They will just not show up, and the outcome will reflect their absence. The country will be temporarily "disturbed", like we were in 2000 when SCOTUS handed the election to Bush, but then we'll "move on" and Romney the Android will become POTUS. We'll all be stuck!

BTW, any significant falloff in Dem turnout due to sincere disillusionment with Obama, but a corresponding visceral inability to vote Romney--he's the walking equivalent of having all your fingers amputated to save your hands--will be blamed on "voter surpression", adding plenty of fuel to the raging fire of protest the will ensue. George Carlin, RIP, told us THE TRUTH: "When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America (especially since 1980, my add), you get a front-row seat!" When the only public figures you can trust politically are a handful of TV satirists and stand-ups like Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Lewis Black or "SNL", you can see the shape we're in! Ominous.
 
 
+4 # bmiluski 2012-08-13 08:53
That is exactly where the folks from the "Occupy" sites should be occupying.
 
 
+1 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 14:57
They can't get any support.
 
 
+2 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 14:56
Wait now..you're waiting for the media to cover it truthfully if it happens?

Did you see Jon Stewart using the propoganda words and images against Occupy Wall Street? (verbal and graphic images of bodily fluids, excrement and filth, repeatedly shown on his program in the guise of 'teasing' the demonstrators)

Read your own comment again and weep!
 
 
+38 # mayordoug 2012-08-10 14:42
I have read many times how the Repugs think that the media has a liberal bias. I submit that their choice to ignore this issue instead of screaming, howling, and presenting the facts proves that they have no liberal bias. They are big business controlled by their big business advertisers. I fear they will NEVER air this issue as it should be aired.
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2012-08-13 08:54
The Republican strategy here is simply too blatant to be believed, hence the relatively muted press coverage on the issue.

You are absolutely right. I've always claimed we have a conservative-ri ght media. Let's look at who owns 90+% of media outlets......Mu rdock and Bloomberg.
 
 
+32 # RMDC 2012-08-10 15:02
This headline is perfectly accurate and it goes back to the election of 2000 when the votes in Florida and elsewhere were rigged in favor of GW Bush.

In all the hubbub about the voter purges and ID rules, people are also forgetting that the technology of computer voting machines is worse now than in 2004 and 2008. I have a friend in Wisconsin who told me about the voting machines were replaced in many districts ahead of the Walker recall election. The company installing the new machines had close connections to the republican party and the secretery of elections who rigged the votes for the Wisconsin supreme court just a year or so ago. At that time, after the republican candidate lost, she suddenly discoverd enough ballots in her home to push the republican to a victory,

Where are the compaints from the democcrats? Where is the attorney general of the US? The democrats also sabotaged the election in Wisconsin. They are perfectly happy allowing the republicans to win. Obama is just a temporary place holder and a way to tampling down left-wing protest. Now he has done his job and he will turn over the keys to the Whore House on Pennsylvania quite without a complaint. He does what he is told to do.
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2012-08-13 08:56
I absolutely agree with you. Where are the democrates on this. They whimped out when Kerry lost and they're still whimping.
 
 
+34 # independentmind 2012-08-10 15:07
Why don't we start organizing people that know the ropes to help those that have problems getting their Id's, get them?
 
 
+49 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-08-10 15:08
What I find laughable is that the United States in conjunction with the U.N. have in the past monitored fair or rather unfair election practices in other countries. Yet, right here in the United States, the Republicans are "manufacturing" restrictive voting laws. And who said, "manufacturing" has left the U.S.?
 
 
+36 # Stafft 2012-08-10 15:10
And you complain about other countries having rigged elections. What a joke. Look after your own problems before you try to fix problems elsewhere.
 
 
+10 # Dion Giles 2012-08-10 19:10
To Stafft:
No. Not "before" but "at the same time as".
 
 
+22 # Acupuncher 2012-08-10 15:12
Yea and Americans are So Stupid (Due To Water Fluoridation I Suspect) To Vote Republican and All It To Happen, To Their Own Detriment... 80% of The American Public Are Just Totally Uninformed...
 
 
+1 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 15:13
Yeah well I learned recently that toothpaste without fluoride does not prevent cavities. I'm not joking. There is a fear of fluoride that needs to be recitified..it does prevent cavities. I am sorry to say I've learned my lesson about using nonfluoridated toothpaste. Pardon the OT, but I felt I needed to respond ;)
 
 
+19 # aitengri 2012-08-10 15:12
Hmm, how about blockading the gates of all gated communities on election day? Any other similar ideas, folks? Perhaps a secessionist movement if Repubs win this possibly rigged election, the Ecotopian West, the EuroAmerican East, taking major economic and social resources away from the remainder, with a pro-active refugee program to allow movement of residual intelligence from the Repub National Remainder states.
 
 
+4 # AMLLLLL 2012-08-12 17:08
If you want to combat voter suppression, do something locally. After the 10 hour waiting lines in '08, maybe show up with a wheelchair equipped with an umbrella to let older folks have a sit for a while out of the weather. If there is an Obama logo on the wheelchair, so what? Volunteering like that, or giving rides or helping in any way; see what your local polling station lacks.
 
 
+23 # Mrcead 2012-08-10 15:14
What troubles me is not the ferocity at which the Republicans are trying to win this election. Republicans rarely lose their composure and only do so when desperate and fresh out of minted favours to call in.

The thing that worries me is what do they have up their sleeves that is so important that they would back an obvious buffoon (perhaps intentionally?) and directly violate the law short of putting a weapon to a person's head to prevent him/her from voting?

It is definitely out of character and yet this hidden agenda must be something massive and fairly detrimental to life as we know it, and I pray that statement turns out to be hyperbole.
 
 
+16 # jwb110 2012-08-10 15:15
I think the Rad-Right and GOP have overplayed their hand on this. There are a great number of their own party who find these tactics abominable because even though they maybe be fiscally conservative the idea of GOP social engineering sits sour in their mouth. Not all Republican voters are as crooked as the Party that represents them.
 
 
+19 # tedrey 2012-08-10 15:16
It's shaping up for a really nasty situation. There's the possibility of a electoral "result" which everyone knows has been manipulated, together with electronic "results" which will be proved within a month to be illegaly manufactured. The claimed new administration and Congress then would be widely considered as illegitimate, because it is known they did not play by the rules. People are not infinitely gullible; revolution one step more conceivable.
 
 
+19 # EternalTruth 2012-08-10 19:18
So, you think that if the election is rigged, AGAIN, that this time people will care enough to do something? What's different now? Dubya got in twice through fixed elections, and the only person who seemed to give a damn was Greg Palast. You don't think the MSM would actually report it this time, do you? I think that people are in fact infinitely gullible, especially when they are tuned in to the corporate-state -controlled media machine. Will you be the first person to pick up your pitchfork in the hopes that the masses will follow? What kind of revolution do you have in mind? Think you you can take out a drone with your rifle?
My apologies for the cynicism. Unfortunately, the hope is all dried up.
 
 
+28 # Alistair 2012-08-10 15:22
In addition to fighting this in court, the Democratic Party should organize campaign workers to spend time helping people get the ID cards they need to vote, at least in the swing states. This is a higher priority than phone banking where the effects on voting are questionable.
 
 
+15 # CL38 2012-08-10 16:47
...also continued articles exposing their tactics more and more in the liberal media ....in conjunction with the Justice Department and Obama continually talking about it to keep it front and center...

How about the ACLU getting more involved?
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2012-08-13 09:01
That's a great idea and would make great headlines.
 
 
+33 # vgirl1 2012-08-10 15:24
There is no example more blatant that Republicans are out to suppress the vote and fix the national election than the story reported by Rachel Maddow last night about Ohio. Here is the situation: Ohio has set up two different sets of allowable early voting days and voting hours for counties depending on whether they are Republican leaning or urban and Democratic leaning. Their supposed explanation is that it is too expensive to hold the same early voting days and voting hours in the Democratic districts that are being held in the Republican districts. Now how more obvious can they be? The press like the NY Times and the Washington Post has known about this effort all along and in my view has deliberately chosen not to report on it. If one watches one iota of pundit news there is no way someone on the staffs at these papers could not have known. Like the Iraq war, too many in the media have willingly been complicit in this overt activity of voter suppression. After all the people who run these papers are part of and want the "for the 1% candidate" to win.
 
 
+27 # marciahagen 2012-08-10 15:24
The League of Women Voters has been bringing suit and making their voices heard anyway they can in these states. They have received national coverage for efforts in Florida.
 
 
+28 # jimbo 2012-08-10 15:52
There was a day when Americans of all political stripe were to be respected. No longer, willard cannot advance without his serial lying. Now he's whining because he can't take the backwash of his tactics. Any who vote for this clown, or for the failed policies of the right are not worthy of my respect, and I will treat you accordingly. Assholes.
 
 
+15 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-08-10 15:59
& Hitler disenfranchised the Jews. Same strategy, same reason. No gas ovens here, please.
 
 
+32 # reiverpacific 2012-08-10 16:14
Reminds me of a bumper sticker I carried from the first Dimwits "selection" era.
"One person, one vote. -Not applicable in certain states"
 
 
+10 # mdhome 2012-08-11 06:19
Great bumper sticker!
 
 
+6 # Anarchist 23 2012-08-11 11:57
Reminds me of a Tee-Shirt I saw in a magazine-a picture of the USA and the slogan above it 'Land of the Free and Home of the Brave'* and in small print below it: '*Void where prohibited. Some restrictions may apply'
The warfare between the Amerikkkan Fascists and the progressive inclusive elements of the country has been going on since Roosevelt & WWII-most likely since inception-and in my lifetime-the assassinations and increasing violence of the society that began in 1963. All that time the Fascists have made steady progress. The police are militarized. Some of our fellow citizens feel with cause they live in Nazi Germany, Israel and other such societies past and present that maintain the checkpoints and 'papers please' mindset. No longer can we identify with Rick in 'Casablanca'-we are Major Stroessel and his Wehrmarcht buddies. as to the next election-a paraphrase from 'Uncle Joe' Stalin: Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.
 
 
+21 # R Miller 2012-08-10 16:15
If this goes far enough it will occur to someone that the only way to fight back is to make Republicans unABLE to vote.
 
 
+31 # Ellioth 2012-08-10 17:15
A three front strategy:
1. Get all those who would likely be affected by this help to register, get their ID, whatever it takes - a few million bucks. (there are billionaire progressives - where the F are you?)
2. File 100s, if not 1000s of lawsuits against the governors and other Repugs in these states attempting to exclude our citizens from voting.
3. Barack and Michelle Obama - where are you? This is such a vital issue and you have not spoken out. This is an issue deserving of your conscience and your political capital.

These Repugs are the same people who drape the flag around themselves proclaiming their patriotism. What a crock of dung. The hypocricy is stunning and those who vote for any politician playing these tricks are either just as guilty or just incredibly ignorant.

This is an incredibly disgusting campaign funded and run by bigots, by the most greedy and awful people on the planet.
 
 
+6 # SOF 2012-08-11 14:03
Agree with most. Attorney General E. Holder, must order all states to publish their new voter ID rules. Social Security checks should have an insert... Counties should send postcards to disqualified voters. States and counties should have online voter info. Post Offices should post ID rules prominently. All voters should check for Diebolt or other hackable voting machines and get a receipt. We should have added voting days, time to contest refusal.... And Media should be prevented from announcing results 'till all votes are counted. With the peril to Dems, perhaps this president could do something good for Democracy Rights, instead of shredding them.
 
 
+16 # solange 2012-08-10 18:14
suppressing the vote is unpatriotic.
 
 
-17 # phantomww 2012-08-11 09:00
letting illegals vote is also unpatriotic, as well as dead people and felons who have lost their right.
 
 
+4 # She Cee 2012-08-12 18:25
Quoting phantomww:
letting illegals vote is also unpatriotic, as well as dead people and felons who have lost their right.


There has yet to be ONE case of Voter fraud proven. This Voter ID fraud fantasy is something the GOP has manufactured to prevent people from voting...people who they know will not be voting Republican.

The people who are doing this are SCUM who can't wait to take over and destroy what's left of our country.
 
 
-4 # phantomww 2012-08-13 07:55
There has yet to be ONE case of voter fraud proven? Are you kidding me? Try googling voter fraud! How about the 177 people just CONVICTED in MN for voter fraud? Oh I guess that doesn't count.

How about this? In a 3-0 decision, a federal appeals court Thursday upheld the voter fraud conviction of Kimberly Prude, the Milwaukee grandmother of three who cast an illegal absentee ballot in the 2004 election.

or maybe this newsreport: two Troy city officials, the city clerk and a councilman, along with two Democratic political operatives, have pled guilty to forging absentee-ballot signatures and casting fraudulent ballots in the 2009 Working Families Party primary. The WFP is the political party associated with ACORN.

So just keep parroting the liberal DNC line (lie) that you did in your post about no proven cases.
 
 
+2 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 15:16
But it's OK the 2000 election was "hijacked" and the 2004 election was stolen. King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell, oh well.

Partisan bickering has no appeal anymore.
 
 
-2 # phantomww 2012-08-13 20:31
It is only partisan bickering when one side refuses to accept the fact that people who are not supposed to be voting are in fact voting. If you object to people trying to make sure that our elections are fair then that is your issue. I am only interested in having honest elections with people who are have the legal right to vote.
 
 
+2 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 15:14
But it's OK for illegals to get the fake social security cards and pay into our social security without ever being able to collect it, OK I get it.

But considering the money they pay in taxes they ought to have some rights and I would think voting should be considered.
 
 
-3 # phantomww 2012-08-13 20:34
No it is not OK for illegals to get fake socials, that is identity thief and causes the person who has the real number all sorts of problems. But again, it is the liberal side of the debate that does not want to secure our borders and keep people who have no right to be here much less work here from not doing so. So lets make all employers use E-Verify to make sure that only legals work here. If an employer hires someone that is not allowed then that employer should be fined heavily and if they continue then jail time. I am for americans doing american jobs.
 
 
-15 # Michael_K 2012-08-10 18:20
"3. Barack and Michelle Obama - where are you? This is such a vital issue and you have not spoken out. This is an issue deserving of your conscience and your political capital."

I assume this is posted for comic effect? Obama's conscience? Seriously!!??
 
 
+1 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 15:22
Well the peanut gallery doesn't approve of your remark, however, I hear it.

I mean I sure do wish I didn't and I cried at the inauguration too but please, I mean Yes We Can close Guantanamo, end the wars (and start new ones) imprison Americans without rights indefinitely, allow the military to operate on US soil....
Yeah, I cried at that inauguration all right. Some of you don't feel duped then. OK. Some of you feel like it's him or Mittens and don't dare say anything that might be construed as confusing some people into voting for Mittens.

I think this is an excellent time--an election year---to ask questions about these issues, if they will be heard.
But will they be heard?

A lot of people are trying really hard and it's not happening.

So thumbs downers please post your rationale for your disapproval, otherwise it looks like paid sock puppets working the wires.
 
 
+1 # Michael_K 2012-08-15 16:07
I campaigned for the bastard! I'll never, ever waste a vote on such a pezzolino di merda ever again. Jill Stein for President!
 
 
+13 # adolbe 2012-08-10 20:48
When I last went to vote in Democratic Maryland primary (not considered swing state, Dem governor) I found that my name was not on voting list though I had voted there before. I did a provisional ballot but recall FL 2000. FOX could declare early victory again and votes do not get counted etc. so make sure you are on voting rolls well before November
 
 
+14 # HooverBush 2012-08-11 03:10
Typical!!!

Republican Campaign Slogan:
"If you can't win fairly, Cheat, Lie, and Steal!!!"
 
 
+10 # fredboy 2012-08-11 06:12
We all rolled over and let Florida screw us out of a national election in 2000, when we should have demanded a federal crackdown and the immediate arrest of every bastard who twisted the election rolls there. Now it's happening blatantly. Foresight tells me this arrogant bullying will eventually result in direct individual counteraction, as that's all that's left now. Good people will have to step up to stop this.
If a system is based on truth, honesty, trust, and goodness it earns support. If based on selfishness and evil, it must be destroyed.
America, it's your choice. This is the crossroads.
 
 
+6 # Bookmark 7 2012-08-11 06:44
These new laws restricting voting is an outrage...as many of you know, former Pres. Jimmy Carter and his Center have been very active in monitoring voting in other countries. How about someone in authority contacting him and see if he and his group can monitor our November elections? And of course the majority of the work will need to occur well before the polls open in November.
 
 
-8 # Martintfre 2012-08-11 06:47
The democrats are the ones I see meddlng in elections for their selfish gain.

My present US senator Bob Casey (Pa -D)elected in 2006 used tax payer monies and state house staffers to spend 5 weeks doing his ill deed of scrubbing Green party candidates petitions down to 58,000 signatures from the 98,000 they turned in - removing the green from the ballot. Then Casey's camp proceeded to fine the green over $80,000 for daring to run against him.

Odd side bar - Casey only needed 2,000 signatures to get on the ballot - apparently the oath to the state Constitution uttered by then state treasurer Bob Casey swore to uphold (Article 1 section 5 - elections shall be free and equal) did not really apply to him
 
 
+2 # She Cee 2012-08-12 18:28
Quoting Martintfre:
The democrats are the ones I see meddlng in elections for their selfish gain.

My present US senator Bob Casey (Pa -D)elected in 2006 used tax payer monies and state house staffers to spend 5 weeks doing his ill deed of scrubbing Green party candidates petitions down to 58,000 signatures from the 98,000 they turned in - removing the green from the ballot. Then Casey's camp proceeded to fine the green over $80,000 for daring to run against him.

Odd side bar - Casey only needed 2,000 signatures to get on the ballot - apparently the oath to the state Constitution uttered by then state treasurer Bob Casey swore to uphold (Article 1 section 5 - elections shall be free and equal) did not really apply to him


What Casey did could be considered child's play compared to what the GOP is doing now.
 
 
+16 # Vardoz 2012-08-11 06:48
A Romney/Ryan presidency is a nightmare from which this nation will never recover.
 
 
-28 # Novation 2012-08-11 08:40
Thank God!!! If we get Obama again, call yourself "comrad", because you will be a Communist nation by 2016!

If that's what you want, I wish you'd go to Cuba and live for a while! Then come back and tell us what a nightmare Romney/Ryan is!
 
 
+6 # She Cee 2012-08-12 18:33
Quoting Novation:
Thank God!!! If we get Obama again, call yourself "comrad", because you will be a Communist nation by 2016!

If that's what you want, I wish you'd go to Cuba and live for a while! Then come back and tell us what a nightmare Romney/Ryan is!


You are a fool to think that. Even if that were true, I think it would be better than to live under fascism led by Romney and company. Even without Romney/Ryan in charge we are losing our freedoms and most people, sadly, don't even realize what's going on. Open your eyes and follow the dots folks.
 
 
-5 # Martintfre 2012-08-11 07:30
IF some one is allowed to vote multiple times in multiple places in the same election then they are oppressing
the one man one vote rights
of very other voter.
 
 
-4 # phantomww 2012-08-13 20:37
wow, you have 3 thumbs down as I type this so apparently 3 people think it is ok for people to vote multiple times. hmmm
 
 
+5 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-08-11 07:50
What I'm sad about is that the Democratic Party is not able excite
the people to generate massive rallies to put an end to restrictive voting laws. so, if the Dems lose, it is largely part their fault. Everything is right about massive rallies and nothing is wrong about them.
 
 
-20 # Novation 2012-08-11 08:38
I you're too damn stupid to be able to get an ID that qualifies for voting, you're too damn stupid to vote! PERIOD!

Our founding fathers built our voting laws on "an imformed electorate". How can you possible be informed when you're too stupid to figure out how to get an ID!!!!!!
 
 
+7 # ABen 2012-08-11 15:29
Please cite where you find this in the Constitution or justify it under the definition of "democracy". Also, was your typo intentional or a Freudian slip?
 
 
+3 # She Cee 2012-08-12 18:38
Quoting Novation:
I you're too damn stupid to be able to get an ID that qualifies for voting, you're too damn stupid to vote! PERIOD!

Our founding fathers built our voting laws on "an imformed electorate". How can you possible be informed when you're too stupid to figure out how to get an ID!!!!!!


If Romney/Ryan are elected their plan is to cut funding for education. Education is what helps people to figure out how to get the ID. And who says it's so easy to get an ID. Do you really think the people who are demanding an ID in order to vote will make it simple for those folks needing the ID to get it? They will make it as difficult as possible.
 
 
-2 # phantomww 2012-08-13 20:41
hmmm, people sneak into this country all the time and can't even speak English and have very little education from their native country yet they seem to be able to get fake ID's easily. Don't see your connection between getting ID's and education.
 
 
+4 # Jdkahler 2012-08-12 22:23
The issue is not figuring out, the issue is physical barriers and costs involved. Many people, especially elders, have no government issued birth certificate, or lived in another state that charges to issue one (PA initially wanted to charge, but some brighter light figured out this was not too smart and dropped the fee, lest it be seen as a financial restriction). In Pennsylvania, photo ID centers are few and far between, a real challenge when someone has no car (hence no drivers license) and is not near public transit, if it's available at all. Yiu migyt have a general store in town, and your mail gets delivered, but photo ID center, not so much. Besides the fact there is no constitutional test required for voter intelligence, not having the financial or physical means to go to a far away photo ID center is no reflection on someone's intelligence.
 
 
+15 # Adoregon 2012-08-11 10:21
Living in Oregon, one forgets how troglodytic much of the rest of the quasi-United States truly is.

Here in Oregon, one registers to vote once.
Thereafter all voting materials arrive by mail. One simply marks one's ballot, signs the return envelope and either mails the ballot in or drops it off at a designated location.
Simple.
Democratic.
 
 
+3 # She Cee 2012-08-12 18:39
Quoting Adoregon:
Living in Oregon, one forgets how troglodytic much of the rest of the quasi-United States truly is.

Here in Oregon, one registers to vote once.
Thereafter all voting materials arrive by mail. One simply marks one's ballot, signs the return envelope and either mails the ballot in or drops it off at a designated location.
Simple.
Democratic.


I live in Oregon and there is still one problem. The ballots are fed into computers and then counted by people. Who says these computers haven't been tinkered with?
 
 
-7 # Martintfre 2012-08-12 06:10
If you need ID to buy Beer then you need ID to decide how other peoples money for you as well.

Elections are promises of future theft.
 
 
+4 # Jdkahler 2012-08-12 22:15
Voting is a constitutional right. Buying beer is a privilege. Just like driving is a privilege, not a right. While the right to vote has been taken away under some possibly justifiable circumstances (felony conviction), there is a long and outrageous history of state interference with the constitutional right to vote - right which in a democracy should trump all other rights when it comes to involvement of and management by the government. Without voting, we have no democracy.
 
 
-5 # phantomww 2012-08-13 20:44
YOur right there has been a long history of state's interference with voting rights and it was all done by Democrats.
 
 
+5 # gabe 2012-08-12 12:48
Yes, 666, we could use MANY election monitoring teams from abroad to monitor our elections. Yet, when I was a grad student in political sci. and read the scholarly lit on elections, every supposedly scientific study based its findings on the premise that the elections in question were fair, free and unfiddled. The authors had Ph.D's in US politics but they had zero street smarts. US voters are in general no better because they have never actively participated in elections except to vote. When it comes to politics, they're toddlers if not babies.
C'mon, everyone, democratic citizenship is not optional, it's required, it's necessary and it demands of us our selfless best. Get out there and do your duty as you see it!
 
 
+6 # Jdkahler 2012-08-12 22:11
Two points:

While the Times and Post may not so much be on this story, the Philadelphia Inquirer was been on the PA case, doing good reporting on the number who would be ineligible to vote, blowing away the state's contention that few would be effectied. And did good journalistic footwork in identifying and reporting on real life people who voted for decades yet would be disenfranchised.

In the suit in PA, the state sttipulated that there was absolutely no evidence of in-person voter fraud, meaning they admitted that claim to justify the legal need for photo ID to eliminate fraud was utterly false.

By the way, I hear the "what's so bad about asking for voter id?" question asked. Well, PA issues a voter registration card with signature when someone registers to vote - an ID not accepted under the new law. If my signature is good enough to use my VISA card (where known fraud does exist), why not for voting where there's no evidence of fraud?

The court is expected to rule on the case this week, though there will no doubt be an appeal. Still enough time to get this loser bill thrown out.
 
 
+2 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 14:44
You know---I saw the title of this article and thought---oh good! Is someone now going to write about King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell?
Ohio court case that concerns the 2004 Presidential election?
Bob Fitrakis of Freepress.org has written and posted the evidence online and it does appear that the election was hacked.

There is a really interesting piece about the case in Veterans Today. In fact the Freepress.org piece should be read accompanied by the Vets Today piece.

I mean, if anyone's interested in election conspiracies that is.
 
 
+2 # Lowflyin Lolana 2012-08-13 14:47
Here's a clue this article might be B.S.: it says:
"In Florida, where history proves that less than 1,000 votes can swing a national election..."

Is that what Florida proved? What did Florida prove? That the Presidency can be determined by the US courts and not the will of the voters?
The Guardian Ladies and Gentlemen..
 

THE NEW STREAMLINED RSN LOGIN PROCESS: Register once, then login and you are ready to comment. All you need is a Username and a Password of your choosing and you are free to comment whenever you like! Welcome to the Reader Supported News community.

RSNRSN