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Excerpt: "Some slopes are not necessarily slippery, but some of them are luge runs, and this is one of them. If you allow one part of the executive branch - the intelligence community, let's say - to act beyond the Constitution, and you do so with such regularity that it seems to become the political status quo, well, then you license every department of the executive branch to behave the same way. And thus does the FDA take upon itself some of the essential functions and justifications of the CIA."

The FDA has conducted a wide-ranging surveillance operation against a group of its own scientists. (photo: Jason Reed/Reuters)
The FDA has conducted a wide-ranging surveillance operation against a group of its own scientists. (photo: Jason Reed/Reuters)



There Are Spies Among Us, and There Shouldn't Be

By Charles Pierce, Esquire Magazine

17 July 12

 

have a suggestion for the Constitutional Law Professor In Chief.

Knock off this scarifying pissantery. Today.

Outside of its embracing of some - but not all, god knows - of the Bush gang's more outre interpretations of the president's national-security powers, the one thing that could cause me to vote this fall for Dr. Jill Stein, my old fellow fencing parent, is the Obama administration's apparent mania for tracing down leaks, and the administration's increasingly clumsy attempts to explain why they're engaging in formalized Egil Krogh-isms when they get caught out. There is simply no excuse for the continuing treatment of Bradley Manning. Their attitude toward the reporter-source relationship in certain areas is downright alarming. And now this - the Food and Drug Administration has an apparent secret-police function.

Moving to quell what one memorandum called the "collaboration" of the F.D.A.'s opponents, the surveillance operation identified 21 agency employees, Congressional officials, outside medical researchers and journalists thought to be working together to put out negative and "defamatory" information about the agency.

I don't often play this card, but, if this came out during the Bush administration, you wouldn't be able to get some people off the ceiling with a crowbar. This is not about protecting "secrets." This is about squelching criticism, and using the powers delegated to you by the federal government to do so, regardless of the lame excuses offered by officials of the FDA. This is about spying on members of Congress - from both parties - who tried to exercise their legitimate oversight function.

While they acknowledged that the surveillance tracked the communications that the scientists had with Congressional officials, journalists and others, they said it was never intended to impede those communications, but only to determine whether information was being improperly shared.

And I am the czar of all the Russias.

Some slopes are not necessarily slippery, but some of them are luge runs, and this is one of them. If you allow one part of the executive branch - the intelligence community, let's say - to act beyond the Constitution, and you do so with such regularity that it seems to become the political status quo, well, then you license every department of the executive branch to behave the same way. And thus does the FDA take upon itself some of the essential functions and justifications of the CIA, as ludicrous as that sounds in theory. Over the past decade, the entire executive branch has become in some way police-ified. And again, if you allow that to become the way things are -"Mankind are disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable," Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration Of Independence, "than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed" - you normalize the instincts of authoritarianism both in the government, where they are always barely dormant, but, even worse, in the citizenry as well.

The intercepted e-mails revealed, for instance, that a few of the scientists under surveillance were drafting a complaint in 2010 that they planned to take to the Office of Special Counsel. A short time later, before the complaint was filed, Dr. Smith and another complaining scientist were let go and a third was suspended. In another case, the intercepted e-mails indicated that Paul T. Hardy, another of the dissident employees, had reapplied for an F.D.A. job "and is being considered for a position." (He did not get it.) F.D.A. officials were eager to track future media stories too. When they learned from Mr. Hardy's e-mails that he was considering talking to PBS's "Frontline" for a documentary, they ordered a search for anything else on the same topic.

Science dies without the free flow of information. The same can be said of democracy.


See Also: Reports From FDA Surveillance Operation

 

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+22 # BradFromSalem 2012-07-17 07:19
First off, its great to her Ms. Stein get a notice. I am pretty darn sure I voted for her the last time she ran against Romney.

The whole expansion of the executive branch's authority to go beyond the limits set forth in the Constitution started up under Clinton. One of the reasons the Patriot Act was ready so fast after 9-11 was because most of the bill was already written. Of course, the Republican Congress shot it down when Clinton was President. They did so because they believed it to be a violation of the Constitution.
Of course, 9-11 changed everything. What wasn't clarified at the time was that everything meant it changed the rule of law into the rule of fear.
As Charles Pierce / Thomas Jefferson point out that fear is spreading into all components of the executive branch.

Time to undo being afraid, time to say 9-11 is over, we change everything back to normal. No more fear. It is time for the executive branch, no matter who is President, to embrace open equally weighted discussion by its employees and citizens. Of course, to do that we also have to discard the blame first solve later mantra.
 
 
+19 # Michael_K 2012-07-17 08:57
"Time to undo being afraid, time to say 9-11 is over, we change everything back to normal. No more fear. It is time for the executive branch, no matter who is President, to embrace open equally weighted discussion by its employees and citizens. Of course, to do that we also have to discard the blame first solve later mantra."

Yes! Long overdue! Let's pass the Restore America Act... remember that one?
 
 
+3 # Virginia 2012-07-17 09:06
As Barbara Bush said, "Clinton was the son of another mother."
 
 
+10 # ericlipps 2012-07-17 12:20
Quoting LiberalLibertarian:
The whole expansion of the executive branch's authority to go beyond the limits set forth in the Constitution started up under Clinton. One of the reasons the Patriot Act was ready so fast after 9-11 was because most of the bill was already written. Of course, the Republican Congress shot it down when Clinton was President. They did so because they believed it to be a violation of the Constitution.


It didn't start with Clinton. A lot of it happenede under St. Ronald of Hollywood, when, fopr example, government agents infiltrated churches involved in the Latin american sanctuary movement. Unfortunately, it continued under Clinton--but Republicans shot down the original PATRIOT Act (which then had a different name) because they didn't want to give a Democrat such power. Once the Supreme Court crowned George W. Bush, the rules changed, even before 9-11. The trouble is, once tyhese measures are enacted, they tend to stay in place, one building on another. That's the road tlo tyranny no matter who's in power.
 
 
+20 # fredboy 2012-07-17 08:02
Yep. And when this happens the favored are favored, the rest are screwed.

And we keep letting it happen.
 
 
+27 # genierae 2012-07-17 08:18
Let's stop kidding ourselves that this spying is anything new, we are just becoming more aware of it. The CIA has been a rogue agency for several decades, spying here and all over the world. JFK wanted to break it up into many parts when he was president, he was murdered. Any connection? I think we have two governments, one we see, and a much more powerful one that is hidden from us. Our presidents have to contend with both, and that's why we don't have a true democracy, where the common good always comes first.
 
 
+4 # Majikman 2012-07-18 09:12
Genierae, I couldn't agree more and your JFK comment is spot on! We do indeed have a secret government controlled by money.
 
 
-14 # MidwestTom 2012-07-17 08:25
When we speak of going beyond the Constitution, we need only to look at the TSA, the Czars, and now building the giant data gathering system in Arizona (I think) that will record every email and phone call. Then add the HSA buying 450 million rounds of Hollow Point bullets; all of this under Obama. To him the Constitution simply does not exist. He isn't a Democrat or Republican; I think that he wants to be King. The other deal that really bugs me is the so called Auto Bailout; all he did was spend taxpayer cash to fully fund the pensions of the UAW workers. The company got nothing, and has been losing cash since the bailout. As the economy deteriorates with more and more people being un- and under- employed remember that your tax dollars made sure that a each of the $35/hour UAW workers have their pensions assured by you.
 
 
+25 # Virginia 2012-07-17 09:24
You are right about some of this but your comments about unions are wrong. Stop blaming organized labor for the financial destruction caused by Wall Street. Without unions there would be no minimums or boundaries respected between greedy management and the work force.

Yes, labor union leaders were rough and tough guys at one time - but in those days that was the only way to control corporate czars.

The spin you hear now that the municipal bankruptcies are caused by the cost of union benefits is a LIE. Wall Street stole the union pension and retirement funds in their securitization Ponzi scheme. The pension funds are GONE, flushed, swish...down the dark money laundering hole. Cities have no trust funds left because of their bad gambling debts with Wall Street.

Shine the light on the pension fund managers and they'll sing like cannaries - or go to jail...likely along with politicians closely associated to the Ponzi investments.
 
 
-2 # MidwestTom 2012-07-17 19:41
First, I live in Non-Chicago Illinois, a state that used to have both Democrats and Republicans in equal numbers in nearly every county. Slowly over the past forty years I have seen Chicago outnumber the rest of the states population and vote 85+% Democratic, which should make me happy. In Illinois If you do not live in Chicago you more and more feel angry the way taxes have risen for which you see very little benefit. As a Democratic businessman I get upset with the choices that our legislature and Governor have made, even though they are Democrats. They have bankrupted this state. Illinois pays it's bills at least 100 days late. There used to be a strong more conservative Democratic party in southern Illinois, but that is not the case today.

Then almost weekly I read about another business leaving Illinois to relocate to Indiana, they even run ads here advertising how much better the business climate is in Indiana, and our legislature's answer is to raise taxes Illinois's approach seems to be go full speed till we crash, and it is hard to support ever more progressive programs when everyone knows that the state is broke.
 
 
+2 # MidwestTom 2012-07-17 19:55
Unions and the bailout. I worked for FORD many years ago and still keep in touch with people who still do work there. They did not ask for Government help to cover their pension liabilities. They still have their massive debt, and their UAW pensions to pay. They now find themselves competing with a company that wiped out most of their pension problems and all of their debts. Ford's workers expect to be paid the same as GM's. the market makes them sell their cars at about the same price; and according to Automotive Industries magazine GM has seen it's sales to the Federal Government rise 87% while Ford's have fallen. By rewarding the poorer managed company (proved by their bankruptcy) with a bailout, the government severely injured the better managed company. I am not anti-union, we employ skilled union workers, and my uncle was near the top of the RR union. However, I do feel the bailout rewarded the sickest of the auto companies, and punished the best. That is why I drive a FORD.
 
 
0 # Livemike 2012-08-02 22:08
Well of course the government rewarded the worst run companies. The best run companies can't cite "need" becaues they do what they need to to actually survive. If Ayn Rand is in heaven she must be saying "I told you so.". Of course she'd be really surprised to be there but still.
 
 
+8 # Texas Aggie 2012-07-17 09:35
The data gathering you are referring to is the Total Intelligence Program and it is headquartered in Maryland and the data intercepts are in California. The program was started under Bush by Gen. Pointdexter who was later fired, but his program lived on. The rest of your screed is Right Wing Talking Points™.

As I am sure you know, the UAW was screaming bloody murder because they took most of the hit when the auto companies were bailed out by massive reductions in their pensions, medical care and wages. The investors got off way easy by comparison. And also I am sure that you are aware, because it was announced yesterday, that GM is now the biggest auto maker in the world again. The three US automakers have had very profitable quarters ever since the bailout. That the automakers have paid back their loans is common knowledge, so I am sure you know that as well and just post what you do because you prefer Right Wing Talking Points™ to reality.
 
 
+2 # paulrevere 2012-07-17 13:13
The data gathering is in Utah, being built and run by nsa...

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and

You are, Texas Aggie, absolutely correct about the auto bailout issues and sometimes MidWestTom seems to be echoing ol Hannity Fannity and Rush to Limbo.
 
 
+5 # gzuckier 2012-07-17 13:02
Quoting MidwestTom:
The other deal that really bugs me is the so called Auto Bailout; all he did was spend taxpayer cash to fully fund the pensions of the UAW workers. The company got nothing, and has been losing cash since the bailout. As the economy deteriorates with more and more people being un- and under- employed remember that your tax dollars made sure that a each of the $35/hour UAW workers have their pensions assured by you.


Well, regardless of whether bailing out the auto industry is constitutional (which does not mean it's a trivial question) the requirements of reality do not suggest that the nation allow millions of citizens to become unemployed in order to demonstrate a point of political holier-than-tho uism; particularly when a rational analysis of the situation showed that the industry in question could be globally competitive again. (Bain Capital, of course, would see the chance to make billions selling the industry for scrap and tough luck for the workers). GM used to have the cost of pension funding but stuffed it down the throats of the union a few years back when the union was too desperate to fight back. Pensions in general are insured by the US government, except for certain cases. GM and Chrysler are doing pretty well since the bailout. How come you don't know all this?
 
 
-7 # Michael_K 2012-07-17 08:36
I find it gratifying and somewhat reassuring that more and more commentators, out in the media, are taking not of the unacceptable fascist-leaning reflexes of this president and his crew. What I find alarming and dismaying is the fear that is palpable in those that denounce him, whether "diplomatically " kissing his arse as in "The Lethal Presidency" article, or here, with very measured and mild indictments.

This Obama guy is a fascist, and we cannot allow him a second term. No way, nohow. Nor can we really afford a Romney administration.

Consequently, everyone should vote for Jill Stein! Not only will you not have to hold your nose whilst voting, but if we all do it (those of us possessing a conscience, of course), then she will win.

To parrot the Obamabots, we have no other choice!
 
 
+7 # Brooklyn Girl 2012-07-17 09:26
She will not win. Vote for her, but do so knowing that will be the outcome.
 
 
+8 # Brooklyn Girl 2012-07-17 09:27
This is how creeping fascism starts ... one small step at a time.
 
 
+7 # jwb110 2012-07-17 10:41
Quoting Brooklyn Girl:
This is how creeping fascism starts ... one small step at a time.

This is not creeping fascism! This is what Russia looked like under the Soviet Regime. I was there and believe me fascism was a tea party compared to what is going on now.
The "People", just like the people who established this Republic should have a New Constitutional Convention and set this country to rights. The GOP/TP revels in being compared to Nazis. Call them what they are. The Russian Oligarchy of the Old Soviet Union.
 
 
0 # jky1291 2012-07-17 23:28
As I posted last year:
While I agree with your sentiment concerning the 2 corrupt corporate political parties and appreciate your desire for a viable alternative, personally I find that the Green Party platform is a laundry list pandering to too many special interests with too many negatives for broad enough support to defeat the most powerful forces of money and corruption this world has ever seen. Alternatively, I would encourage every intelligent citizen wishing to save our nation to identify, recruit, and elect a 3rd Party presidential candidate who supports the limited, but essential for success, goals presented in the Contract for the American Dream upon which nearly everyone can agree, with opposition from only those supporting the status quo of the wealthy 1%.

http://contract.rebuildthedream.com/?rc=rtd_home

We cannot afford to diminish a unified sentiment that the status quo is unsustainable by overreaching with a pie in the sky platform that peals away critical support with every additional plank beyond the bare essentials we require to achieve fundamental changes in our political and economic systems to reestablish "government of the people, by the people, for the people".
 
 
+10 # James Marcus 2012-07-17 09:02
We now have 'A culture of Lies and Spies', justified by 'National Security' double talk. But it is really 'All About Money' .... and Unconstitutiona l Privilege. It is Knowingly Shameful activity, which is why Dishonesty is imperative to Cover The Tracks. Neither The Public at Large nor perpetrators Families would knowingly tolerate such blatant (ignorant) Selfishness .
This 'Policy' enables, engenders and Empowers The Dishonest... to 'Make Hay' while The Sun Doesn't Shine. and Institutionaliz e it.
This Plague of Dishonesty will break the Back of this Nation. (indeed any Nation)
 
 
+4 # paulrevere 2012-07-17 13:20
money AND power...conside r what 'unConstitution al privilege' means...if you have the proper identification, codes, passwords, and mindset, you can go anywhere, do anything and never be scrutinized...d iplomatic pouches, gov't airplanes via gov't airstrips, cash access to grease all things needing grease...and if ya run into any ungreaseables, well, Guido, Butch n Igor change minds, loosen kneecaps and beam individuals on into the next life...at will.
 
 
+11 # mdhome 2012-07-17 10:04
I have some doubts that any president can do much to control these people who are stealing our freedom, too many people are too afraid of some "others". Fear and freedom are not good bedfellows.
 
 
+6 # Kathymoi 2012-07-17 11:52
This is about squelching criticism. Well put. This is about squelching information that is inherently critical and about squelching analysis of information that leads to criticism of the practices of the FDA. This should be a red flag, but instead it's an almost invisible flag. We the readers of RSN hear about it, and just about no one else.
 
 
+5 # gzuckier 2012-07-17 12:53
in other news, the US inches closer to requiring citizens to carry an internal passport at all times in public in order to prove that they are not illegal aliens when stopped by the authorities "for cause". This practice has served the various tyrannies of the world so well that it has become a staple cliche of every movie where the American goes behind enemy lines to fight the Nazi/communist/ Klingon tyranny. "Your papers, please! Hmm.... zey seem to be in order...."
 
 
+3 # stanhode 2012-07-17 19:34
Anyone ever hear of Cancer? Not in this article. The scientists found the FDA willfully covering up problems with medical examination/scr eening devices. People would be (will be?) severely overexposed to radiation (some 800x safety standard) during examinations. We need to prosecute the spying AND the deadly crimes against people everywhere.

Some can survive various cancers, and some can even sail through the treatment regimes, but too often it is a long slow misery and decline till death. Cancer also causes great fear. We have to balance that fear against the fear of fighting government crime and corruption.

How can anyone claim legitimacy for an FDA that would promote dangerous medical devices into practice on unsuspecting citizens?

Does anyone here think the FDA will work for the people instead of playing for Monsanto's dollars in the CA Label GMOs fight?
 
 
+4 # cordleycoit 2012-07-17 22:36
So now the government turns on it's self as all police states must. We are not surprised by this because police states must have total control other wise the people might revolt and throw both parties out and that would mean out of work cops and their politician bosses.
 
 
+3 # jbell94521 2012-07-18 12:52
That the FDA is spying on its own employees, particularly those working hardest to truly protect the public health, does not surprise me in the least. Perhaps the FDA initially started out as a watchdog for public health. But it has steadily morphed into a watchdog for the profits of the Health Care and Food Sectors at the expense of public health and safety. Anyone who does not get this is either blind to the facts or living in a true state of denial.
 
 
0 # Livemike 2012-08-02 22:05
"I don't often play this card, but, if this came out during the Bush administration, you wouldn't be able to get some people off the ceiling with a crowbar."

Why don't you play this card often? Obama is Bush III and we all deep down, know it.
 

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