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Tomasky writes: "So now Elizabeth Warren has to prove that she's 1/32nd Cherokee? The temperature on the story is rising."

Democratic candidate for the US Senate Elizabeth Warren speaks to reporters during a news conference, 05/02/12. (photo: Steven Senne/AP)
Democratic candidate for the US Senate Elizabeth Warren speaks to reporters during a news conference, 05/02/12. (photo: Steven Senne/AP)



The Elizabeth Warren Witch Hunt

By Michael Tomasky, The Daily Beast

29 May 12

 

The press is obsessed with Elizabeth Warren's Cherokee heritage. Too bad it's the biggest media-manufactured story since the Lewinsky scandal nearly brought down a president.

o now Elizabeth Warren has to prove that she's 1/32nd Cherokee? The temperature on the story is rising. There was a huge article in the Boston Globe on Friday written to raise a number of questions and suggest that Warren used the minority designation to get her job, or get ahead - exactly at the same time that a poll was released (PDF) showing that 69 percent of Bay State voters don't consider her heritage to be a "significant" story. It reminds me of nothing so much as Monica Lewinsky, and of the media's need sometimes to get a grip.

Why Lewinsky? The situations are in fact almost precisely the same. You had then a press pack that had decided that whether Bill Clinton was telling the truth about Monica was a question on which the fate of the republic hinged. The press became self-righteously consumed with its search for The Truth. Meanwhile, outside the Beltway, and outside of Wingnuttia (it existed then, just at about half of its current GDP), nobody cared what the truth was. The media kept producing revelations; surely, now, swore Maureen Dowd and Michael Kelly, America will see this man for the reprobate he is! America looked, yawned, told the press to start acting like grownups, and continued to approve of the job Clinton was doing as president at rates near 70 percent and to oppose impeachment at similar levels.

The appearance Thursday morning of this Suffolk University poll (linked to above) made me think: Well, this story line is about to wrap up. If more than two-thirds of voters don't care, then that's that. But no - still going strong! And now it's not the loopy, right-wing, and pro-Brown Herald, which pushed the story first, but the Globe trying to play catch up. Yes, yes, it's all in the public interest. What, you say, the public says it isn't interested? Well, we'll teach them what's in their interest!

This is close to embarrassing. True, Warren's story is a little cheesy. No let's back up even further. It's hard to see why someone who is 1/32nd anything can be called that thing. But those are the Cherokees' rules, and the United States of America for all moral and legal purposes accepts them as the rules. As you may have read when this story broke, the current head of the Cherokee nation, Bill John Baker, is also just 1/32nd Cherokee. He is also, by appearance, completely white. You could mistake him for a Tea-Party Congressman.

So if Warren's mother told her there was Cherokee blood, and if one little rivulet of Cherokee blood going back generations makes one a Cherokee, which legally it does, then she's Cherokee, at least as far she knows. Now she has to prove this? You have to go back five generations to get to 1/32nd. It's entirely possible that such a thing can't even be proven.

As it happens, I just recently underwent a slightly jarring heritage-related experience myself. I grew up being told I was Serbian on my father's side. Croatians, naturally, were the fiendish enemy, second only to the Turks. But lo and behold, said my uncle at a dinner last year, it seems that my father's father, who died before my bouncing arrival on the orb, might have been Croatian. Historically speaking, I'd guess I'd rather be a Serb, although Milosevic's service to mankind has rendered that a far closer call than it would have been before he hit the scene. At the end of the day, I don't care much one way or the other. But my point is: Proving it? I wouldn't have the slightest idea where to start.

What does this matter anyway? It's a "character" issue? Oh please. Elizabeth Warren's character is pretty well established. She was the daughter of an Oklahoma janitor, for God's sakes, who started working as a pre-teenager when her father had a heart attack. She has children and grandchildren and has taught Sunday school. She's served on a number of prestigious boards. She got her law degree from Rutgers - a very good school, but the outpost of someone scratching her way up the mountain on her own, without legacy or connections.

She became a professor at Harvard Law. No one doubts that she earned that, whether as a Cherokee or a whitey or anything else. She is one of America's leading experts in her field. She chaired congressional oversight of TARP. She came up with the idea for a new agency, the most important consumer-protection agency created in this country in decades (note: she first espoused this idea in the journal I edit, but she did so before I worked there, so I don't really know her; I interviewed her once, last year). She has simultaneously fended off Tim Geithner, who hated her diligence on the TARP question, and Republicans, who went banshee about her precisely because she was effective and unassailable. They never laid a glove on her (and boy, they tried). If doing all that after growing up poor in the Dust Bowl doesn't convey character about someone, then nothing does.

The people of Massachusetts have perspective on this. (As does Boston Mayor Tom Menino, who hasn't endorsed Warren but who stated on Friday that the issue is "not relevant at all" to the campaign. Right.) She may or may not win. The poll had her and Scott Brown tied. It's hard to beat an incumbent, and Brown has positioned himself pretty shrewdly. She'll have to swim through this muck largely under her own steam. She will have to, as they say, "put this behind her." I'll grant that this is a character issue to the extent that she has to have the character to put this in its proper context and change the story in the crucible of a hard-fought race. That's within the rules of politics, and they certainly apply to her no less than to anyone, and she hasn't managed to do that at all so far.

But this is a media story as much as it's a Warren story. We're sticklers about getting the little things right in our business. But the big things - how important Lewinsky was, whether George Bush's case for war in Iraq was honest - we (well, not me) almost always get wrong. Count it among the many lessons in life that will never be learned.

 

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+128 # Colleen Clark 2012-05-29 11:06
It's so hard to find anything seriously negative to say about Warren that the right wing is digging and digging. I have a friend whose parents were originally from Oklahoma and she does have some documented Cherokee family. Has anybody researched how many people with a couple of generation of Oklahoma residence actually have some genetic evidence of Cherokee background, however small? There must be some data out there. In any case, everything Warren has achieved has been by grit and hard work and great intelligence and ability. The media don't cover themselves with any glory. The Globe should be ashamed. (I live in MA and read the Globe.)
 
 
+110 # Vardoz 2012-05-29 12:41
We need her in the senate. She will always be on the side of the people. I don't care if she said she was a Cling On- She has proved herself in every way.
 
 
+10 # ER444 2012-05-30 13:05
Make a contribution to her campaign NOW. I have made three small donations.... and YOU ?
 
 
+5 # ghostperson 2012-05-31 13:45
I am an enrolled member of the Cherokee Nation.I grew up on the edge of it as did Warren. Everybody in the "old Indian Territory," or damn near, is of Indian descent. The recently elected principal chief of the Cherokee Nation is 1/32. There are in fact many ways to document Indian heritage in our tribe if one cares to do so. Some people walk the "white road," others walk the "red road." So what? She is what she is. I frankly don't give a damn if she hung her heritage on a shingle and dangled from it getting into Harvard which I doubt. Why are people delving into 1980s think? People my age and Warren's didn't even know what affirmative action was because people from our region and socio-economic status didn't do "isms " or "tions." That was the privilege of the moneyed classes. Ask yourself, does anyone ever as a Black person how much black they are? No, one drop and you are there. Is this reverse discrimination?
 
 
+124 # Barbara K 2012-05-29 11:17
A lot of Americans have some Indian in them, but there is, of course no way to prove it. So just move on and get this lady in Congress. She is sorely needed there. Stop the nit-picking unless you want to tackle the big Bush lies first.
GO ELIZABETH!!!
 
 
+13 # RLF 2012-05-30 04:16
When do the people who vote for rethugs finally realize that their party is INSANE?
 
 
+6 # James38 2012-05-31 23:23
Excellent, Barbara K! GW Bush, Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, and the rest of the bunch lied in their teeth to start the useless and horribly destructive war in Iraq. How can anybody take Brown and the rest of the Republicans seriously about this minuscule non-issue when they are sweeping those dinosaur bones under the rug?
 
 
+130 # Peacedragon 2012-05-29 11:20
This will seem silly several years down the pike when she is President Warren.
 
 
+68 # sameasiteverwas 2012-05-29 12:11
Of course, then they'll say that since she is part Cherokee, she can't be a real American! You know, at heart, not a REAL American. Hee hee.
 
 
+46 # PaineRad 2012-05-29 13:17
Unfortunately, this is not "silly". This is just pure UGLY and all too typical of the modern GOP. This is pure character assassination with no proof at all.

I don't know whether or not (warning: irony alert) the good folks in the genealogy archives in Salt Lake City would be of any help in researching this or if they would be completely objective in reporting their findings.
 
 
+39 # Peacedragon 2012-05-29 11:28
Then again if as president she has to name several justices to the Supreme Court will there be confusion about the term Warren court?
 
 
+29 # Colleen Clark 2012-05-29 14:59
But the other Warren was on the court. It would be great if she could become president, but first we have to elect her to the Senate.
 
 
+105 # WestWinds 2012-05-29 11:30
The Right is always throwing food at the wall hoping something will stick.

When they think they might EVEN have something, they run it to the ground.

ONLY that they should be as diligent about cutting Defense Spending and No Taxes On Freeloading Rich People!

No matter what they try to make of this, it's not going to change the fact that Elizabeth Warren is a winner and We the People LOVE HER!!!

I'm hoping she will be our first female president and this is scaring the sox off the Right-wing misogynists. Good!

It's their turn to be afraid, be very afraid, because she is a woman who stands up for We the People instead of the Koch brothers and creepy Scott Walker. (And they have the nerve to accuse the Left of turning a blind eye...)

Go Elizabeth Go!!!
 
 
+71 # mdhome 2012-05-29 11:52
Elizabeth Warren 2016 all the way! Sounds to me like another "birther" stupid, insane foolishness.
 
 
+78 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-29 11:34
The problem isn't that she is 1/32 Cherokee but that she was born in Kenya.
 
 
+49 # MEBrowning 2012-05-29 12:55
.. which obviously makes her a Muslim and a socialist ...
 
 
+49 # gzuckier 2012-05-29 13:04
and she ate a dog. I saw her myself, at the Dog 'N Suds.
 
 
+61 # CoyoteMan50 2012-05-29 11:38
It's the crazy birthers and another wedge issue.
They can't run on facts and good ideas so they toss manure against the wall hoping some silly issue sticks.
Move on people and ignore the idiots!
 
 
+18 # gzuckier 2012-05-29 13:04
Please! They're not Birthers any more, it's the Place of Birth Movement. Read Trump's Tweets.
 
 
+58 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-29 11:49
The Boston Globe pundits have been feeding this ridiculous story, by calmly stating that she has not handled the questions well.
Apparently, according to a headline I read in the Herald, Brown is whining that she should just drop the claim. So, ask yourself; what is your heritage? Irish, Italian, Catholic, Native American, Eskimo, Jewish, Polish, German, Arab, Semite, Indian, Asian, Chinese. See how they cross? See how most of us can claim multiple heritages? Now, look in your wallet, or your safe deposit box. Can you document each and every group that an ancestor may have belonged to?

Most of us cannot. The only concern here would be if she used her claim to Native American heritage in a fraudulent manner. Does every job applicant that checks off a minority box have to produce documentation?

Then why the heck does Elizabeth Warren?

The only fraud in this race that is likely to be between Warren and Scott Brown is Scott Brown. Elizabeth Warren is a special candidate, the type that rarely comes along, and to see a fake like Scott Brown get good ole boy pats on the back from the MA political establishment ezxplains all I need to know about why the Globe is feeding this story.
 
 
+36 # Guy 2012-05-29 12:00
She is one of the few that has integrity,runni ng for congress or senate in the USA.Now with Denis Kucinich going and probably Ron Paul,who will be left to stop or at least make us aware of childishness of the existing pak.
 
 
+37 # nealjking 2012-05-29 12:00
This is a complete non-issue.

It is like Monty Python's dead parrot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
 
 
+41 # Virginia 2012-05-29 12:01
Logic is linked to intelligence - the reverse is also true.

Republican mantra: When you can't win - Wag the Dog.
 
 
+49 # portiz 2012-05-29 12:02
The right has perfected the ad hominem attack. That is, when you can't "find fault" with the idea, go after the person. You'll note that this is exactly the same tactic that playground bullies use.
 
 
-78 # bob4healthcare 2012-05-29 12:09
To people in Mass. who want to focus on a real issue:

R E M E M B E R T H I S A more important point: Warren is NOT supporting your wishes regarding health care. Look carefully at what your wishes are ...
http://www.mforall.org/p/Massachusetts

A quarter of a million of you (two-thirds of those voting) documented by your answers to the health care ballot question in 2008 and 2010.

REMEMBER THIS: Vote for Marisa DeFranco if you want support for the people on health care.

- Bob the Health and Health Care Advocate
 
 
+24 # Colleen Clark 2012-05-29 15:02
DeFranco might be a fine Democrat with all the right views and opinions. But her presence in the race until Sept will be as a spoiler. Not smart and not supportive of Warren.
 
 
+4 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-29 17:43
Coileen,

I am an alternate to the Dem convention and if I go I would vote for DeFranco just to get her on the ballot. She represents new blood, Progressive blood and as a Progressive I believe it is critical to make sure the Democrats in MA know that she is the direction we want to go in.

If you follow the politics here in MA, the establishment Dems in the state are buddying up to Brown, it is disgusting. These are the same idiots that thought that Martha Coakley was Senatorial material because she is a woman. The MA political establishment in MA are actually Republican Lite. These are the same fools that believed that Shannon O'Brien would beat Mitt Romney and ignored to the point of derision the candidacy of Robert Reich. How has picking establishment women worked out?

So, now we have women 2 candidates for Senator that represent the Progressive wing, and DeFranco is probably more Progressive. Look to the future, she could run against Kerry or for Governor. Elect Warren, but don't discard the change in candidates we need.

Another reason to support DeFranco getting on the Primary Ballot, is the misdirection that the Rightie radio talkers are blabbing about Warren being hand-picked. A decent showing by DeFranco will be ammunition to quiet that lie.
 
 
+4 # Colleen Clark 2012-05-31 05:54
I am going to the convention as a committed Warren delegate. I don't know how it challenges the "establishment Dems buddying up to Brown" to challenge Warren with a primary. Looking to the future let DeFranco run for an open office. I'm all for progressives and for women too.
 
 
+1 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-31 09:47
Colleen,

I was not trying to convince you to change your vote.

Much of the legislative leadership, which in MA is overwhelmingly Democratic are not speaking out in support of either woman. In the meantime they manage to cultivate every photo op they can to be seen with the Hollow Man. Listen to the talkers on RKO denigrate Warren. They have ridden this Cherokee non-issue tirelessly, speak of Warren as a hand picked candidate, an out of touch college pinhead, and whatever other misrepresentati ons pops into their hedz (sic).

It is a good thing to have a dynamic election process, it is a very good thing to have more than one excellent candidate. Why do we have to decide on the candidate so far in advance?

Understand I am not opposed to Elizabeth Warren, I just don't believe that uncontested elections are good for the electorate, the candidates, and in the case of primaries the party.

If I go I will be with the Salem delegation, drop by and say hi.
 
 
+11 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-29 17:47
Bob,

Warren is more or less a single issue candidate. I have full confidence that once in office she will grow into more Progressive positions in areas other than financial Regulation. I do plan to vote for for DeFranco at the convention, if I am able to vote and unless the race is tight will vote for her in September. But that is a deposit on the future, the opportunity to elect a person such as Elizabeth Warren is rare, and I cannot let it pass by.
 
 
+33 # bbaldwin 2012-05-29 12:16
I am beginning to wonder about the brains of these persons like the birthers, and others who really think that any of us with brains care whether or not Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee. So what... just like the strange people who picked on Obama and his birth certificate... They just won't give up the stupidity of all of this. I, for one am amazed that so many people in out country are so stupid. Our country has been dumb down and that is all thee is to it.
 
 
+22 # spanky 2012-05-29 12:17
It seems the point of the piece is the foolishness of the media. Maybe they're not so much foolish as they are sellouts for more circulation, more viewers, more ad revenue and more power.
 
 
+35 # Gizmo 2012-05-29 12:25
The odd thing is that real honest capitalists should be happy to have an effective watchdog like Elizabeth Warren in office. It's the crooks who don't want supervision of the financial services industry.
 
 
+30 # cordleycoit 2012-05-29 12:25
I smell the Koch or is the Rove idea that to lie loudly is is a chance to win,a strategy of shouting down and cursing the ground the target walks for no reason except to make noise. One should advise one's children to stay away from politics its all pimping.
 
 
+38 # Vardoz 2012-05-29 12:32
We want her as senator. We have donated several times. She will never sell out the people. I hope voters aren't fooled by stupid propaganda- She is a very valuable person who could swing the corrupted senate that used to have a majority of 50 vote to win and now conveniently have 60. Every person like her is a vote for us and against special interests. SO wise up Americans and vote for those who are not in the pockets of big money.
 
 
+27 # dick 2012-05-29 12:41
Better to deal with it in May than October. Go go 'em, Liz!
 
 
+31 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-05-29 12:48
This quote from the article says it all:

"...the current head of the Cherokee nation, Bill John Baker, is also just 1/32nd Cherokee. He is also, by appearance, completely white. You could mistake him for a Tea-Party Congressman."

If the head of the Cherokee Nation is 1/32 Cherokee, just like Prof. Warren, then she could be the head of the Cherokee Nation as well as a Senator. That would be real kool!

The Swift Boat gang is next going to demand that the Pope prove that he is Catholic. This would be an interesting exercise, and might prove that the Pope, if we go back enough generations, like maybe to the year 1 BC, is really Jewish. Now wouldn't that be a kick in the head, and ultra kool as well.
 
 
+17 # gzuckier 2012-05-29 13:07
Quoting BeaDeeBunker:

The Swift Boat gang is next going to demand that the Pope prove that he is Catholic.


Also, a long form copy of documentation of a bear having defecated in a wooded area.
 
 
+46 # MEBrowning 2012-05-29 12:49
John Kerry had an unassailable war record, and look what the right wingnuts and the lamestream media did to him. The right doesn't care one iota about the truth or logic or reason. They certainly don't care about the terrible things their party is doing, and would like to do, to the majority of Americans. They just care about winning. And they will say and do anything—anythi ng — to make sure that that happens.
 
 
+6 # gzuckier 2012-05-29 13:09
Hey, I bet Cherokees eat dogs. Need to suggest to Rove.
 
 
+35 # Rossi 2012-05-29 13:00
How about Scott Brown proving he's not an industry suck*ss instead!
 
 
+8 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-29 17:49
Maybe we should demand he release his job applications to see if he listed that as experience.
 
 
+21 # L H 2012-05-29 15:40
Wouldn't this have something to do with Scott Brown's wife, Gail Huff, and her connections as a broadcast journalist? She was at WCVB-TV in Boston, and of course she would have connections at the Boston Globe. Now, she has moved to WJLA-TV in Washington, D.C. as television reporter. This is not about an "impartial" Boston Globe, but insider connections that someone at the Globe wants to keep with Gail Huff, a Washington DC reporter. It's all about connections and insider scoops. Just any excuse for criticism of Scott Brown's opposition and to do Gail Huff a favor.

Hey Boston Globe, Elizabeth Warren deserves better than this! Are you a professional newspaper or a rag magazine?
 
 
+5 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-29 17:52
I think it has more to do with the Globe kissing up to the Democratic establishment in MA. Now that Ted is gone they become more and more Republican Lite every day.
 
 
-17 # Noni77 2012-05-29 15:43
I'm sorry, but I am 1/8th Cherokee and would never think to claim that I was a minority in order to game the system.
 
 
+25 # sameasiteverwas 2012-05-29 16:33
Noni -- This is all smoke and mirrors. The article "suggests" that minority status was used -- no one has any proof of anything of the kind. People also "suggest" that the President was born in Kenya and that he has sent spending levels sky-high, all without any factual proof and indeed, all proof to the contrary. It's all innuendo to place Warren on the defensive, so the right can sit back and say "It's up to her to prove who and what she is." To waste time and distract voters from real issues. Same old same old. I admire your independence, but please don't assume that anything in the Globe article is actually true, as they didn't make any definitive claim -- just nasty politics.
 
 
+7 # tanis 2012-05-29 16:42
O, call Henry Louis Gates. He can find out if she is part Cherokee or part whatever, he is also at Harvard, can't be impossible to locate. All this is only to confuse the average uninformed voter anyway, and there are so MANY.....so, inform them.
 
 
+12 # wwway 2012-05-29 16:44
Her opponent and accusers have nothing left so they try this. They must be from HELL. This is so petty and unreasonable that it just sticks another feather in the "Can't stand Republicans" hat.
 
 
+16 # vgirl1 2012-05-29 16:49
This is the Scott Brown version of birtherism.

The Republicans just don't quit, because so many Americans obviously remain gullible and eager to accept any ounce of negative charges involving ethnicity and race and to jump on any bandwagon that they think allows them to disqualify a candidate based on racial leanings.
 
 
+10 # Carbonman1950 2012-05-29 19:40
She's being Swift-Boated. They're at it again because we've let them get away with it when they've done it in the past.
 
 
+15 # Grumbler 2012-05-29 17:51
I am a progressive living in a conservative state. Elections here are sometimes close, but rarely has a progressive been elected to statewide office. We Blue mariners marooned in a sea of Red, look to you progressive citizens of Massachusetts to secure the House and Senate, because we know we won't get very far at this end. That Ted Kennedy's seat went to a centerfold Republican, whose public behavior toward his daughters is questionable, simply boggles my mind. Please oh please elect Elizabeth Warren to the Senate and restore the good, that is progressive, name of Massachusetts.
 
 
+5 # Rick Levy 2012-05-29 18:40
I don't see anything wrong with Warren's use of whatever legal means were available to get financial assistance for her college education.
 
 
+19 # Rich Austin 2012-05-29 18:41
Please remember: Ms. Warren was fighting for the 99% long, long, long before that designation was being used.

She blew the whistle on Alan Greenspan and on the gangster banksters and their subprime, derivatives, hedge fund capers. She was roundly attacked by culpable Members of Congress, and by other sleaze balls.

If you want a champion of the people in office vote for Warren. If you believe you deserve more battering vote for someone else.
 
 
+8 # Joe6pK 2012-05-29 18:47
What is the real pity here is that while the gop international corporatist bought dogs can ruin great folks on lies, like they are trying to do to Ms. Warren, not a single one of these traitors to all mankind have been brought to trial. They pay no taxes, they obey no laws, and they are all cowards who have others do their fighting, buying politicians and no doubt even rent real men to get their wives pregnant! International corporatist are not human, they are part of the corporate Frankenstein machine which is obviously setting itself up to kill off most of the human race as soon as they have the right amount of stooges in the right places in government to push the button! So humans in America and the world only have a little time left to save ourselves, so we will need lots of Warren type politicians, think about it!
 
 
+8 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-05-29 18:58
Question from Sen. S. Brown:
Prof. Warren, do you still beat your husband?
Question from Sen. S. Brown:
Prof. Warren, did you use your 1/32 Cherokee heritage to advance your career?
Answer: Those are rhetorical questions. They do not warrant an answer.

Dictionary Definition: Rhetorical Question:a question asked only for the rhetorical effect, no answer being expected.
 
 
+9 # Carbonman1950 2012-05-29 19:35
The neo-confederate power brokers who currently have control of the Republican Party are all (well... at least mostly) about retaining privilege, white privilege, class privilege, any privilege to which they can lay claim, so any time they can they claim that their opponent has used "racial quotas" to get ahead they do. It ties in nicely with their tactic of claiming that "non-Americans" are "unfairly" taking away "their" opportunities.
 
 
+3 # Carbonman1950 2012-05-29 19:39
I'm curious... is there any factual hint that Mrs. Warren has ever attempted to capitalize on this tiny slice of her genetic heritage?

Or is this just part of her family's mythology?
 
 
-5 # Dougded 2012-05-30 10:26
yes she used the claim to give herself advantage in tenure.
 
 
+5 # Phlippinout 2012-05-29 21:04
Perhaps some of these white purists should take a little test so we can see just how pure they are. Maybe they would find out that they are a mixed basket like the rest of us!
 
 
+5 # sheeplady 2012-05-29 22:42
The premier Native American college is in Lawrence, KS where I live. Anyone who is at least 1/32nd Native Am. can attend free of charge. At least 1/4 of the students on campus look "white" and most of those are Cherokee. The Scotsmen who first settled that area of the South populated by Cherokee brought few women with them and married w/ the tribe who were very friendly to the new arrivals. By 1830's or so, the US govt. conducted a census of the tribe, now loaded w/ Anglo last names, and later census done after the tribe relocated to "Indian Territory" (Oklahoma) so those records, along w/ knowledge of a full-blood ancestor provide all the proof that is needed. Anyone with that background is crazy not to benefit from the perks that come w/ N.Am heritage!
 
 
+3 # NAVYVET 2012-05-30 03:44
My mother told me when I was a little girl to be very proud that we were part-Shawnee on her father's side. She was under the impression that her dad was probably 1/4, but he died back in 1908 when she was a child. Her siblings, all of whom were Midwestern or Southern racial bigots, had heard the story but refused (loudly) to believe it, even though Mom and her sister had distinct facial features and dark coloring that reminded others of Native Americans, and baby pictures that don't look European. (When we lived in South Florida where Mom had a permanent dark tan strangers addressed her in Spanish.) I do much admire Tecumseh I've always hoped the story was true--but so many families whose ancestors arrived from Europe in Colonial times have similar stories. Unfortunately I got my dad's Irish hair and complexion. Please don't suggest a DNA test; I couldn't afford it!
 
 
+4 # Wind in His Hair 2012-05-30 04:02
Couldn't a simple DNA test solve this riddle?
 
 
+10 # ronaldbosch 2012-05-30 06:35
This woman is one of the best this country has to offer. She fights for you and me and knows the shenenigans that go on in politics. We need her. I hope she wins from the brown sleezeball.

Go Elizabeth!!
 
 
-2 # Dougded 2012-05-30 10:25
it is hardly a witch hunt, but honesty and abuse of policy do matter, especially in the Senate.
 
 
-4 # cbaron 2012-05-30 11:00
I'm a left wing Democrat and am going to vote for Elizabeth Warren, but there's a lot more to this story than is indicated here. This was an embarrassing moment for Ms.Warren and there's no excuse for it. Her attempts to explain it have only made things worse. Yes, I can get past it, but it doesn't justify it in any way.
 
 
+4 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-30 19:14
What the heck was she supposed to say? She said she was part Indian. She said that she did not use it as part of her application to Harvard and that was corroborated by a Republican who was part of her admissions review group. What more is needed? You are parroting the baloney that the Boston Globe is printing. What else is there? Has any proof come up of whatever your suspicious of?
Well?
 
 
+6 # lorenbliss 2012-05-30 11:20
The slandering of Ms. Warren -- by not just the obviously fascist "Boston Herald" but the uber-establishm ent "Boston Globe" (the latter owned by "The New York Times") -- proves two ugly truths:

(1)-The term "mainstream media" is a Big Lie. The honest (and therefore proper) term is "Ruling Class Media" -- which acknowledges both the reality of class warfare and how the RCM functions as the One Percent's propaganda machine, part of the apparatus that ensures We the Slaves remain in total subjugation here in the United States.

(2)-The fact the overtly fascist "Herald" and the far more subtly fascist "Globe" have united against Ms. Warren is as vivid a demonstration of Ruling Class solidarity as I have seen since...well, the effectively unanimous votes by which Congress abolished the Bill of Rights. In either case the lesson is the same: when the One Percent senses a threat to its authority, it always speaks and acts with one voice.

Whether Ms. Warren wins or loses -- and given the forces arrayed against her, she'll almost certainly lose -- the pivotal question remains: when are we in the 99 Percent going to evolve our own solidarity?

Were that to happen, Ms. Warren would triumph.

At least her loss will be another teachable moment, again proving the worthlessness of traditional liberalism as resistance to fascist tyranny. But how many more such lessons must we endure?
 
 
+2 # BradFromSalem 2012-05-30 19:17
Loren,

Sadly you speak truth.
 
 
+2 # Listner 2012-05-30 18:45
ELECT ELIZABETH WARREN SHE'S THE REAL DEAL !!!!
 
 
+1 # Reyn 2012-06-01 07:07
Actually, many Native tribes have similar rules. Elliana's mother is registered Choctaw at 1/16th and Elliana has now been registered at 1/32nd. She's 3 years old with dirty blond hair and hazel eyes. She is legally Choctaw.

Kind thoughts.
 

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