Intro: "The GOP wants to erase George W. Bush's ruinous presidency from the nation's memory, but the Dems shouldn't let it happen. Michael Tomasky on the gift that keeps on giving."
Former President Bush hugs President Obama at his inauguration. (photo: Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images/Newscom))
George W. Bush, Barack Obama's Best Friend
03 April 12
The GOP wants to erase George W. Bush's ruinous presidency from the nation's memory, but the Dems shouldn't let it happen. Michael Tomasky on the gift that keeps on giving.
o George W. Bush, reports Politico, is laying low these days, avoiding the spotlight that shone briefly on his father and his brother Jeb recently as they endorsed Mitt Romney's candidacy. This whole subject of the post-Bush GOP and its relationship to No. 43 is pretty fascinating. Like a crazy, drunk uncle shooting an epileptic dog because he has fleas, the current GOP shuns him for all the wrong reasons. Since the GOP will presumably spend the next few months trying to pretend the man never existed, Democrats ought to remind people that he did. In fact, the Democratic Party should spend the next 20 years talking about Bush, turning him into the new Jimmy Carter and making the memory of those eight squalid years quadrennially fresh to everyone with living memory of them for as long as is humanly possible.
Bush, Politico notes, "is in a self-imposed political exile." Perhaps predictably, Ari Fleischer pops up to note that that's a lowdown dirty shame because Bush "kept us safe" through a perilous time and oversaw a booming economy in between two recessions. These claims aren't even worth spitting out one's cornflakes over, let alone rebutting. But merely as a point of information, people should know that the economy didn't exactly boom from 2002 to 2008, except of course for the 1 percent of the population the policies were designed to aid. Bush's job-growth record was the worst of any president going back to the Depression. The table you can see here goes back to Truman. Obviously, Roosevelt grew jobs at a fairly significant rate, since unemployment under him went from 24 percent to essentially zero during the height of the war. So you have to go back, I'd suppose, to Herbert Hoover to find someone who did worse than Bush's .01 percent growth in jobs per year.
Yes, Obama's jobs record is worse - for now. But at least in Obama's case you have a guy who really did come into office at the start of a major recession, the worst in 80 years. Since the recession eased and ended, nearly 3.3 million jobs have been added - meaning that if he has a second term, he will in all likelihood leave Dubya eating some of that famous Texas dust. In any case, Americans still pin the shattered economy on Bush. A poll released only last week from CNN showed 56 percent blame Bush, while just 29 percent finger Obama.
The fact that we're still clawing our way out of the darkness that Bush set upon us is the reason he is still relevant. Recently, Romney made him even more so, by insisting to an audience that it was Bush and Hank Paulson who actually saved the country from a depression. Beyond that, Romney's campaign staff and advisers are so full of Bush people - on political strategy, the economy, foreign policy, and other areas - that one former Bush speechwriter (who is not on the Romney bus) has called it "a restoration of the Bush establishment."
And yet, even as Romney makes those moves, which only about 2 percent of the population will know about, the party will obviously try to distance itself from Bush publicly. What in the world are they going to do with him at the convention? Ex-presidents are supposed to get nice speaking gigs. Will Bush? To say what? That we must let the free market work, the way it worked on his watch in September 2008? That we must be vigilant against the terrorists, the way he was while Osama bin Laden was living a few heaves of a baseball away from a Pakistani officer-training facility? That we must protect the homeland, as he did in New Orleans? It's hard to imagine what kind of speech he could deliver. It wouldn't be shocking if Bush is reduced (if he would accept) to some ceremonial function, some transparent and treacly soft-focus attempt to fool Latinos, since Bush was among that small handful of Republicans known not to actively hate brown people.
Democrats really need to keep Bush in the frame here. And Dick Cheney. I know everyone says "but elections are about the future." Well, maybe. But the Bush years were so uniquely bad, so plainly and emphatically horrible on so many fronts for such a vast majority of citizens, that to fail to mention the era would just be missing a free whack. It would be the equivalent of someone trying to slag Halle Berry without mentioning Catwoman. Very often, people - especially Democratic people - overthink politics and worry too much about how people are going to react. But this one is simple. Bush really just stank up the joint for eight years. Mention him, and the pundit class might bray about it, but most people will react by thinking: Yeah, that guy really just stank up the joint for eight years.
I often wonder about what Bush himself thinks. Does he know, deep down, what a failure he was? He must. We all tell ourselves stories that try to put a good face on things. And any president or governor can come up with a list of good deeds accomplished, so maybe he leans on those, waiting patiently for the day when, because people's memories are short and because some rich Texas buddies undoubtedly stand ready to pour millions into a PR-rehabilitation campaign when they sense the time is right, he can reemerge in the public eye, smirk intact, smiting Democrats like in the good old days of 2002. Democrats must make sure that that rehabilitation never, ever happens.
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Obama military budget is greater than Bush. Yesterday - rarely - I was listening to NPR Syria Free Army propaganda and realized - NEOCONS won in destroying USA, controlling UN. Obama for sure will be re-elected.
"talking about Bush, turning him into the new Jimmy Carter" - Carter was the last ethical and pragmatic president -
search Obama - Reagan - Obama is fixated with emulating Reagan ..
The Dems should be slamming him right and left without relief till election day.
It's so easy! Do it! Never let people forget the hubris and lies of this man and his administration. Not EVER!
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Dementia? Hell he's hiding out because everywhere in the world he tries to go, they push him back. Or he decides not to go out of plain and simple fear about the backlash from what he's created throughout the world.
The GOP also were able to make 'reconcilliatio n' into a dirty word (even though that's how the Bush Tax cuts got passed) and we'll need it to get anything done in the Legislature.
BUSHWHACKED!!!
And, as soon as it collapsed in March, 2000 - all that was toast.
Convenient lack of understanding basic history and economics, I'd venture to suggest.
To claim that this somehow impacted the federal deficit is laughable at best.
Then, you completely lost me. Fed tax revs soared during the late 90's, and not just for the feds, but for states as well. True, a goodly portion of this was corporate income tax collected - but that does not imply that one company, Enron, was paying their share. In fact, many of the big names of the bubble, never made a dime in profits - never paid taxes - but the CEO's were - the EE's were - the investors were - they were paying a heck of a lot of tax.
Look at how CEO pay did during the bubble:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc86/forparity/CEOPaytoAveWorkerPaycopy1.jpg
Fed corp tax receipts -(in 1,000's, i.e, 207,289 is $207.3 billion):
2000 - 207,289
2001 - 151,075 - Bush seated (following crash).
2002 - 148,044
2003 - 131,778 - Bush tax cuts are in place.
2004 - 189,371 Re
2005 - 278,282 cov
2006 - 353,915 er
2007 - 370,243 y
Corp tax revs soared 155% in 4 years following the Bush tax cuts. Interesting, you think?
Now - by far (75-80%, the reason we went from small nice surpluses in 2000/2001 to massive deficits in 2003-04 was because of the economic fallout from the collapse of the dot.com bubble.
Dean Baker agrees.
2000 311.7
2001 $307.8
2002 328.7
2003 404.91
2004 455.91
2005 495.31,2
2006 535.91,2
2007 527.41,2
2008 494.41,2
Obama: United States spend $654 billion on its military in FY 09.
this is ISSUE - Clinton raised military budget before leaving office -
Total military - Spending $1.030–$1.415 trillion (2012) - Obama - it is military supid
I see you accounted for slightly less than $100 billion in military spending. One might note that there were a lot of costs associated with 9/11, right off the bat.
Once again, "by far," to quote the progressive economist, Dean Baker, the main cause of the disappearance of the surpluses and the shift to major deficits was the fallout from the collapse of the dot.com bubble economy, in March, 2000.
That which Bush inherited.
The conversation is not about defending Bush, nor blaming Clinton - folks, it about common sense in how the darn system of economics works.
Yes, the deflation of the dot.com bubble and ultimately the real estate bubble that peaked in the Bush years would have set this goal back but we'd be in a helluva lot better shape had the Bush Administration continued down this road as was recommended instead of adding trillions to the debt in what may have been the most irresponsible era of governing in our history.
Every economist in the land understands that.
True - one can start blaming the Bush admin for not getting the economy under control, and for war spending, and for their stimulus -- and for not putting an immediate end to the housing bubble that he inherited from Clinton/Cuomo which is the root cause of the current crisis.
Still - Clinton did not put us on a path to be debt free. The bubble gave - then in March 2000, it took it all back away again.
Do some simple math, for 2000 - 2003, OK? In 2003, the budget deficit stood at $378 billion. The surpluses had long disappeared. The total cost of the Iraq war was $54 billion, and the cost of Bush's stimulus to that date - paled in comparison to the cost of Obama's stimulus, etc.
You must be living on another planet to state this: "Clinton was criticized for his successful efforts to balance the budget."
Goodness.
You know, I'm not really interested in trying to blame him for the dot.com bubble - or it's crash, either - it just happened. Now -the housing bubble, is an entirely different animal. It's mostly his - but Bush added a bit more to it as well.
Yes, some of the environment that allowed the housing bubble was set up in the Clinton years, to the extent that conservative policies were embraced, deregulating banking practices and Wall St.
Republicans campaigned and won in 2000 on giving the Clinton surplus back to the taxpayers, when the dot.com bubble burst, they changed their tune and justified their trillions in tax cuts as a stimulus to the economy. They proceeded to launch two wars without taxation to pay for them and Medicare Part D, unfunded, and government growth in Homeland Security in reaction to 9-11, unfunded. The Bush years ended with no job growth and the nation facing trillions in debt. Do you also blame Obama for the $14 trillion in debt because of a stimulus bill that totaled less than $1 trillion? A bill that was only necessary because we were facing the worst recession since the Depression.
It was a marriage deal between the R's & Clinton which significantly slowed spending.
However, I'd argue that it only created a pent-up want to refund the programs later. as Gore had run on spending more on beefing the military back up.
As Bush came in, not only were the surpluses turning to deficits because of the crash, Bush found the military had been stripped bare during the late 90's (by both parties). Clinton used up all the cruise missiles in the mny military ops - etc. Bush instantly increased funding for Vets, military, Medicaid, Medicare, eduction, etc.
Need to reform programs - can't just cut spending.
Dot.com bubble would have been the same, had Bush been in same period.
Housing bubble - some of the environment??
No - all of it was "created" by Clinton and Cuomo.
Fannie Mae & Countrywide entered into strategic marketing alliance in 1999 - by 2000, CW was the largest lender to poor minorities.
Read carefully:
Oct. 2000 - HUD ANNOUNCES NEW REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE $2.4 TRILLION IN MORTGAGES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 28.1 MILLION FAMILIES
http://archives.hud.gov/news/2000/pr00-317.html
Look at the scale of the debt that has been generated over the last 20 years... Especially since 2000. Look at the wealth in Congress. Look at the figures of the lobbyist's bribes. Nothing has stopped since Obama was inaugurated. Congress threw us a bone last month and said they would stop insider trading... They didn't say they wouldn't tell anybody about their inside information though.
This isn't partisan - it spreads across both parties like peanut butter.
you are so right! Corruption is the dirty word media fears to tread on!
It may be less about money than you think. Does Cheney care much about money now he is living with someone else's heart beating inside him for a few more years at the most? I doubt it. He dodged the draft, and now he is facing a more certain peril than going to war.
In their quieter moments, Bush and Cheney must know that they blew it for themselves AND the country. This is why they are trying to figure out how to salvage their reputations. It may be a long shot, but this is all they have left on their plates.
Whatever you think about Obama's blunders, he has no serious "charges of corruption and greed" to face compared to those two. And he, like the Clintons will probably always be welcome across the world to speak, rather than being confined within our borders and unable to travel openly even to Canada. There is a huge difference between Dems and GOPs.
Indeed - all that which you mentioned - has only gotten worse - including secrecy and divisiveness.
Selective memory-syndrome at work again.
Who caused the "divisiveness"? Not the Ob' who we all know and fault as being too willing to try and work with the determinedly entrenched, mindless and -yes face it full front RACIST- party of "No"! That's where the divisiveness comes from in these "Fragmented States".
The secrecy I grant you but as a hangover from the Dimwits Bush-Cheney "National (in) security state, only worsened by the continuing over funding of the military death-and-surve illance apparatus.
But there's more than that---for the sake of his victims (of which there are millions in the Middle East and tens of thousands among our soldiers) we should never ever forget him.
So i would say the Democrats have a duty not to let us forget Bush.
Please, oh please Democrats --- can you please work in the word "Bush" in every other sentence you say?
Our tragedy is that Democrats seem to be incapable of outrage. We just watch what is happening, like deer in the headlights, go tut-tut to one another, and then something worse comes along and gets our feeble attention. Had we all been such wusses in 1776, there would BE no America! Doesn't the fact that two of history's worst war criminals are living like kings on retirement paid by the U.S. taxpayers give us ANY sense of injustice? Or that our current leader has yet to take any meaningful stand against what they did? And that Fox News still gleefully beguiles and enthralls half our population with lies,leading to votes and more of the same?
Good observation.
That plus, he really has nothing to contribute to anything; just pops up at the occasional PGA tournament or Baseball game. Hell, all he had to say when he was dragged kicking and screaming to Haiti by Bill Clinton was "just give us money"!
He exemplifies the 180° opposite of an ex-president that good will ambassador pro-temp Jimmy Carter became. He should be put in Abu Grahib or Gitmo, which his non-administrat ion so carefully and mercilessly filled with abused and non-represented inmates, with his honchos and handlers rooted out of any active work in government.
They've already done enough damage to the country and the world which Obama has inherited in a large pile of reeking garbage on behalf of their corporate mentors.
I totally agree with you Henry. Bush was a complete puppet, I think Darth Vader (Cheney) the demon that wouldnt die was more in charge with Rummy, then Bush ever was. Bush was a corporate schill and now they are trying to pretend he didnt exsist. I remember those 8 years of hell, every stinking second of it. Bush ruined this country, and it all hit the fan before Barack Obama became president. Make no mistake Bush ruined this country...the end!!
Obama is not my choice for another term even though I voted for him last time. He has continued many of the destructive policies that Bush started and looks more like a wolf in sheeps clothing everyday. The lesser of 2 evils is still evil.
The bottom line is that if the GOP gets enough rope, they will hang themselves but will take us all down in the process and this IS the precedent that played out during Dumbya's time in office.
In some sense one only need to mention the name of the predecessor. McCain ?Never heard of him, right ?
So if Obama won't even investigate blatant evidence of torture, does anyone really think that he's concerned with using Bush's truly disastrous presidency for political leverage.
It's "good cop, bad cop," and business as usual.
Intesting how folks can limit discussions to a period of time, w/no context in relation to the cyclic nature of economies.
For instance, remember how progressive economist, Dean Baker, CEPR, described the train wreck just before Bush became Pres? He was speaking of Clinton's Enron dot.com bubble:
"The nation's political leaders chose to ignore the stock market bubble [..] As a result, millions of families have seen their dreams of a secure retirement or their children's college education vanish with the stock market bubble. The level of negligence of the nation's political leaders in ignoring the stock bubble exceeds anything since the days of Herbert Hoover."
FTR - so far, all we've had in this economy is a very weak, and very slow, retracement of what was lost in the crash. And, we haven't even got back to where we were yet. Still fewer people employeed.
Then .. .
" in Obama's case you have a guy who really did come into office at the start of a major recession . ."
Sure, it's a worse recession than Bush inherited; but still, Bush inherited the econ fallout from the dot.com crash, which created the recession.
Bush also inherited the housing bubble which Clinton/Cuomo ordered up and fed along w/ their twin financial deregs - all of which led to the final collapse.
I really don't blame Clinton, either--a poor boy who struck it rich and didn't know how to handle it--screwing around with women because he had the power to do it. It's sick, but it's understandable.
Come on, everyone. Let's put the past behind us and get out the vote in November, so we can kick the ass of the elephant and get our country back on track again.
Really, the dems and the reps have been bought off by the same elites. Obama has allowed the economy to remain in the hands of Wall Street and he has retained most of the Bush era war criminals in the Pentagon and CIA. Obama is a real son-of-a-Bush. He needs to be sent back to Chicago so he can wither away in infamy, just like GWB is in Dallas.
The US will not get out of its crisis with a democrat president. The republican candidates may be a lot worse than Obama, but Obama is not the candidate for change. Change will come to the US when people break the ranks of the demublican duopoly.
Vote 3rd party. They will not win this time, but building the foundation for a new political party is more important than returning the demublican Obama to the Whore House on Pennsylvania Ave.
Getting the country back on track will not happen with either a republican or a democrat.
"In over his head" was right (There is a rumor that Jeb was meant to be the next chosen one of the Bush dynasty) -but it doesn't excuse what he wrought and how he wrought it. We -and much of the planet- are still living with it for Chrissake and will be for a long time. That's like saying "go easy on Hilter 'cause he was a mad, power drunk sociopath" with his vision of the "Thousand year Reich but I don't think that would have saved him at Nuremberg had they got him there.
Dimwits hadn't the consciousness to realize he was out of his box, but there were a cabal of cynical lethal sub-humans workin' his strings.
As Spike Milligan once said (of one of his Majors in WW11)": there's nothing worse than a fuckin' idiot who doesn't realize they are a fuckin' idiot!"
And that applies to many others including the current crowd of Reactionary wannabe-usurper s of Ob's presidency.
No, he's not as bad as Bush. In most ways he is better, but not that much better. In a few areas he is much better, and in a few areas he is worse. We desperately need someone much better than Obama, but it seems we are stuck with either Obama or someone even worse.
The Democrat leadership blocked all efforts to pass annual federal budgets respectively, in both houses - 2 in the House, and 3 in the Senate.
Our national media has done it's best to keep that conversation out of American homes - and the President has said nothing.
Today, there is change in the air:
Harry Reid loses procedural ruling on budget vote
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74801.html
It's about time.
Focusing solely on the Bush Presidency as the cause of the economic collapse isn't all that helpful. The economy failed because both parties embraced conservative ideology since the Reagan years, this is the discussion we should be having. The Conservative Era of the last 30 years has been a failure, the Bush Presidency was just one of many symptoms and the Obama Presidency is doing far too little to reverse course.
Democrats are in a much better position than Republicans to change and to help reform the economic and tax system back to something that works for labor, corporations and investors. Not just for corporations. Republicans are backed so far into a corner with their extremism that they're incapable of change and they will continue to destroy the country if given the power to do so.
He is much more than a disappointment to most who were excited to see him take office. He's delivered nothing to his supporters and given plenty to our enemies.
Unfortunately, nobody else is ready to mount a serious challenge to him. If only he decided that he'd accomplished everything he set out to do and let somebody else who is willing fight for economic, political, and social justice take the office.
"I often wonder about what Bush himself thinks. Does he know, deep down, what a failure he was? He must."
You are mistaken.
The Bush Jr. presidency was a massive success - for himself and his "base", the elite, who profited massively from wars of aggression, the expansion of the national security state and surveillance, from oil prices going up, from tax cuts for the obscenely rich, from allowing the destruction of poor and Democratic neighborhoods in New Orleans (you think that would be allowed in La Jolla?), from the bank bailouts, from the elimination of habeas corpus (further perfected by Obama), from two stolen elections (yes, 2000 and 2004) etc.
Why do people always think what the elite does to the rest is a "failure"? They don't see it as a failure, they see it as a smashing success. They have been so successful in fact that the Republican party has moved so far to the right that they really have run out of issues. GOP insanity is the main source of inspiration for comedy in the United States. "We've won the ideological war," they say.
They have even succeeded in turning Obama into a Republican of sorts.
What *they* see as failures are their failure to completely privatize social security and education, and that sort of stuff. That's what's a failure to them.
Don't call a smashing success at your expense a failure, call it a crime, and fight back, giving stuff the name stuff deserves.
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