Greenwald writes: "Evidence proves that the graph trumpeted by AP as evidence of Iran's nuclear weapons program is an obvious sham."
An article published by Associated Press about Iran's nuclear program has sparked controversy. (photo: AP)
AP's Dangerous Iran Hoax Demands an Accounting
30 November 12
Evidence proves that the graph trumpeted by AP as evidence of Iran's nuclear weapons program is an obvious sham
An article published by Associated Press about Iran's nuclear program has sparked controversy (screen shot of AP story) Photograph: AP
(updated below w/AP's response)
t's important to return to the story about AP's nuclear Iran "exclusive" which I wrote about yesterday. Although it was intuitively obvious that the graph trumpeted by AP as scary and incriminating of Iran's nuclear program was actually a farce, there is now new, overwhelming, very compelling scientific evidence that is the case. Whether as victim or recklessly culpable participant, AP helped perpetrate a dangerous hoax, and owes an explanation and accounting for what took place, including identifying the "officials from a country critical of Iran's atomic program" who made false claims about what this is.
To begin with, the graph AP touted as reflecting some sort of nefarious, highly threatening and complex nuclear calculation is, in fact, widely available all over the Internet in the most innocuous places. Just consider this side-by-side comparison of the AP graph on the left, with the graph on the right on this harmless site designed to teach beginner users how to use Microsoft Excel:

At the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists (BAS), Yousaf Butt and Ferenc Dalnoki-Veress on Wednesday night wrote: "Graphs such as the one published by the Associated Press can be found in nuclear science textbooks and on the Internet." Similarly, Prof. Muhammad Sahimi, a professor of chemical engineering at USC and expert in Iran's nuclear program, told Richard Silverstein of Tikun Olum that "too many graphs like this can be generated by a competent undergraduate student." So what AP presented to the world as some sort of highly complex, specialized document was, in fact, nothing more than a completely common graph easily found in all sorts of public venues.
Even worse, the calculations reflected on this graph are patently ridiculous. Butt and Dalnoki-Veress document that the graph "does nothing more than indicate either slipshod analysis or an amateurish hoax" [emphasis added]. That's because, they explain, "the diagram features quite a massive error, which is unlikely to have been made by research scientists working at a national level"; namely:
"The image released to the Associated Press shows two curves: one that plots the energy versus time, and another that plots the power output versus time, presumably from a fission device. But these two curves do not correspond: If the energy curve is correct, then the peak power should be much lower - around 300 million ( 3x108) kt per second, instead of the currently stated 17 trillion (1.7 x1013) kt per second. As is, the diagram features a nearly million-fold error."
This error is patently obvious to anyone versed in nuclear physics. Nima Shirazi yesterday spoke with Dr. M. Hossein Partovi, who teaches courses in thermodynamics and quantum mechanics at Sacramento State, and he echoed the BAS scientists:
"[Dr. Partovi], noting that the graph is plotted in microseconds, explains that 'the graph depicted in the report is a nonspecific power/energy plot that is primarily evidence of the incompetence of those who forged it: a quick look at the energy graph shows that the total energy is more than four orders of magnitude (forty thousand times) smaller than the total integrated power that it must equal!'"
Notably, the nuclear expert quoted by AP in its article, David Albright, also seemed to be trying to tell AP that the graph contained this same obvious, glaring error, yet AP - eager to believe, or at least lead others to believe, that it had some incriminating evidence - either failed or refused to understand its significance. Buried in the AP article was this passage:
"'The yield is too big,' Albright said, noting that North Korea's first tests of a nuclear weapon were only a few kilotons."
But AP never indicated that this error strongly suggested that no real nuclear scientist would have prepared it, and immediately went back in the very next paragraph to touting the document as some sort of scary evidence of Iran's threatening nuclear weapons machinations.
Then there's the obvious crudeness of the graph itself, which I noted yesterday. Professor Sahimi told Silverstein: "The graph itself looks low quality, as if it has been drawn by hand." And the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists authors noted the same thing: "the level of scientific sophistication needed to produce such a graph corresponds to that typically found in graduate- or advanced undergraduate-level nuclear physics courses." Indeed, they added: "no secrets are needed to produce the plot of the explosive force of a nuclear weapon - just straightforward nuclear physics" [emphasis in original]. They continued:
"Though the image does not imply that computer simulations were actually run, even if they were, this is the type of project a student could present in a nuclear-science course. The diagram simply shows that the bulk of the nuclear fission yield is produced in a short, 0.1 microsecond, pulse. Since the 1950s, it has been standard knowledge that, in a fission device, the last few generations of neutron multiplication yield the bulk of the energy output. It is neither a secret, nor indicative of a nuclear weapons program."
It is, to put it as generously as possibly, completely reckless for AP to present this primitive, error-strewn, thoroughly common graph as secret, powerful evidence of Iran's work toward building a nuclear weapon. Yet from its inflammatory red headline ("AP EXCLUSIVE: GRAPH SUGGESTS IRAN WORKING ON BOMB") to the end of the article, this is exactly what AP did. And it did so by mindlessly repeating the script handed to it by a country which AP acknowledged is seeking to warn the world about the dangers of Iran. This is worse than stenography journalism. It is AP allowing itself, eagerly and gratefully, to be used to put its stamp of credibility on a ridiculous though destructive hoax.
The obligation of journalists to protect the identity of their sources to whom they have pledged anonymity ends when the "sources" use them purposely to disseminate falsehoods. Indeed, the obligation to protect these sources not only ends, but a different obligation arises: to tell the public who fed them the hoax. This was exactly the issue that arose when it became clear that multiple sources had falsely told ABC News' Brian Ross in late 2001 that government tests had linked the anthrax attacks in the US to Saddam's chemical weapons program, a story that Ross spread far and wide - thus, as intended, heightening fears of Iraq, but which turned out to be completely false from start to finish. As numerous journalists argued then, Ross had the obligation to tell the public who was behind the hoax he so damagingly spread.
AP has that same obligation here. At the very least, they have the duty to respond to this scientific and documentary proof that the graph they trumpeted, and certainly the claims they made about it, are misleading in the extreme. On Wednesday afternoon, I asked AP to comment on these issues and have thus far received no response.
As both Shirazi and John Glaser document, the AP writer responsible for this absurdity, George Jahn, has a history of similar behavior. That includes producing an equally hyped and equally absurd report back in May featuring a cartoon-like drawing that, as Jahn put it, "was provided to The Associated Press by an official of a country tracking Iran's nuclear program who said it proves the structure exists, despite Tehran's refusal to acknowledge it."
As the Iraq War proved, there are few things more irresponsible and dangerous than having a large media outlet trumpet extremely dubious claims from anonymous sources designed to hype the threats posed by some targeted foreign regime. That is exactly what AP is doing here, and given how obvious the sham is, it is inexcusable. AP owes a clear explanation of what happened here.
The real story here is not this inane graph, but the behavior of AP and its "sources". That someone is purposely feeding this influential media outlet obvious hoaxes shows two facts: (1) the evidence of Iran's nuclear weapons program must be very thin if fabrications of this type are needed; and (2) someone from an unnamed country or countries is very eager to scare the public into believing this weapons program exists and is vigorously proceeding, and is willing to use fraud to advance those fear-mongering ends.
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This is MORE than sick - is there ONE US senator left that is NOT bought with AIPAC money?
Netanyahoo orders Obama jumps. Save USA - write to your senator ...
Now post it on Facebook. Stop Iran war!
One exception was Knight-Ridder publications, if I recall correctly. The chain was subsequently sold to McClatchy.
In my opinion the WaPost and NYT were the worst offenders, lending their considerable reputations to perpetrating this hoax. Judith Miller was the only reporter (propagandist?) to suffer any consequences.
And thanks for saying "the media were" instead of "the media was".
www.cfr.org/iraq/most-americans-support-war-iraq-shows-new-pewcfr-poll---commentary-lee-feinstein/p5051
we are less informed NOW than 10 years ago ..
Yes. You are.
The Israeli government doesn't represent all Ashkenazim, so I think your characterizatio n of an "Ashkenazim mafia" is off base.
It's the Israeli government you should be criticizing, not a whole class of Jews.
Agreed, but I would add those in DC who relentlessly push the Israeli agenda, and those who allow themselves to be pressured or duped by them.
Quoting engelbach: really?
Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or Ashkenazim (Hebrew: אַשְׁכְּנַזִּים , Ashkenazi Hebrew pronunciation: [ˌaʃkəˈnazim], singular: [ˌaʃkəˈnazi], Modern Hebrew: [aʃkenaˈzim], [aʃkenaˈzi]; also יְהוּדֵי אַשְׁכֲּנַז Y'hudey Ashkenaz, "The Jews of Ashkenaz"), are an ethnoreligious group who trace their origins to the indigenous Hebrew speaking peoples of Canaan in South Western Asia, and settled along the Rhine in GERMANY from Alsace in the south to the Rhineland in the north probably during the early Middle Ages.[5]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
Human Right is expressing the fact that these class of Jews are emigrants (not refugees) who took over Palestinian land. I know a person/Jew (well educated, born in Palestine, now in USA) who call himself Palestinian Jew - ( partitioning of Palestine, though was subsequently rejected both by Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs) who rejects the state of Israel. Ashkenazi Jews are FOREIGN element in Palestine - culturally and genetically.
You both seem to ignore the significant emigration of Sephardim to Israel, after WW II. A substantial proportion of the considerable Jewish population in Iran/Persia emigrated after that establishment of the state of Israel that was implemented by the forcible expulsion of Palestinians.
Many Jews in Palestine never joined the successive diasporas that started perhaps 500 BCE, or returned from Babylon thousands of years ago, remaining and living in harmony with Muslims, Christians and Druze for centuries since before the Zionist immigration.
To suggest surviving Jews who fled from Eastern Europe after WW II were not "refugees," is facile.
A Reform Rabbi friend abandoned pacifism, joining the OSS during WW II in response to the Holocaust. Post-war, he stayed in Europe to facilitate emigration of refugees to Israel. He returned to the U.S. in the '40s, but went back 20 years later, only to return to the U.S. He found Tel Aviv had unfortunately become an American ghetto.
A wonderful documentary, Jaffa - The Orange's Clockwork, that examines the pre-WW II situation in Palestine from the point of view of both Jews native to that land and pre-WW II immigrants who described a rather fraternal society.
The Mizrahim, Jews native to the Middle East can, on the other hand, trace their ancestry to the Hebrews/Israeli tes as can many Palestinian Christians and Muslims whose ancestors converted from Judaism many centuries ago.
Agreed that the majority of Palestinian Jews rejected Zionism, which was a European secular nationalistic movement whose members had disdain for Eastern Jews.
The Jewish immigrants to Israel from Europe were hardly a "mafia." They were by and large people who had been displaced by the war and were looking for a refuge.
The injustice of the displacement of the Palestinians was not a deliberately aggressive act by the refugees, but by their militant Zionist political leaders, engineered by the British and the United Nations.
That depends upon what period you are referring to. It is also a fact that Palestine and after May, 1948, Israel was far from the first choice of the vast majority of Jewish refugees. Given a choice they would have gone almost anywhere else, and only ended up there because the machinations if the Zionist leadership, born of desperation to build a Jewish majority left them no other place to go. In some cases the Jewish refugees were directly threatened by the Zionist leaders. I have met some of those refugees who decades later harbored deep resentment and even hatred of Ben Gurion et al. for forcing them to go to Palestine.
It is a historical fact that the ethnic cleansing conducted by the Israelis was not engineered by the British or the UN, but was the work solely of the Israelis.
Would you call this "engineering?"
The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out on 22 July 1946 by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization the Irgun on the British administrative headquarters for Palestine, which was housed in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured.
The hotel was the site of the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities of Palestine, principally the Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and the Headquarters of the British Forces in Palestine and Transjordan. The attack, which initially had the approval of the Haganah (the principal Jewish paramilitary group in Palestine) and was conceived of as a response to Operation Agatha (in which widespread raids, including one on the Jewish Agency, had been carried out), was the deadliest directed at the British during the Mandate era (1920–1948).[Th e explosion caused more casualties than any subsequent bombing carried out in the Arab-Israeli conflict.
It seems we are going down that same road we took to the war with Iraq that is now a shameful memory. Why is no one of prominence calling these lies about Iran for what they are: Israeli lies!
Here's a whole bunch:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
Want more? In August of this year, he stated, addressing a group of ambassadors from Islamic countries, “annihilation of the Zionist regime” is not just a Palestinian issue, but the “key for solving the world problems,” and he slammed US leaders for “kissing the feet of the Zionists.”
This article is about an AP article which suggests a fraud, with not one IOTA or implication that Israel has any involvement, but the standard antisemitic posters come out like maggots from a rotting corpse. We get it, you hate Jews, now STFU!
Yes, hbheinze, it is. I am highly critical of an Israeli administration which acts like the Bush(2) administration. BUT, this article isn't about Israel. The above posters (specifically Deboldt, by his comments regarding Ahmadinejad, Activista, by his prior posts, as long as I have seen them, and human right, by this gem "Ashkenazim mafia empire", have dogmatically demonstrated, not only anti-Zionist (BTW, that is merely polite code for antisemitic) attitudes, but definitively antisemitic attitudes as well. When human right refers to the "Ashkenazim mafia empire" he is implicating all Jews of European descent. (disclaimer, I fall into that group, as well as being Sephardic) So, no, I don't believe I am overly excited, I am justifiably upset that these posters continually spew their bigoted beliefs on this thankfully open forum. While RSN has (wisely) chosen not to censor even ignorant comment, when a poster "challenges" anyone to show that Ahmadinejad has EVER said ANYTHING about the destruction of Israel, that is an easy challenge to accept. Ahmadinejad is a Jew hater and a Holocaust denier who desires the destruction of Israel; for these bigoted numbskulls to turn an unrelated article about the AP perpetrating a fraud, into a Jew-bashing fest, turns my stomach. I see I've received minus 11 for disproving a bigot, really nice!
Depends on the context. "Anti-zionist" to many of us means opposed to the imperialist aims of the Israeli government. There are many Israelis who agree with us.
I'm ever bit as concerned about "Christian Zionists," who believe that the Jews must return to take over Eretz Israel and to eventually die in a lake of fire before Christ can return.
An ethnic half-Jewish, "born again" Christian friend has repeated to me the prodigious calumny for over a decade that neither Palestine nor Palestinians ever existed. That's some serious denialism, of the "Flat Earther" variety, but it helps propels AIPAC inspired policy in this country.
They each know in their minds that everything they each do and say and teach is god perfect.
Not unlike our Republican party. "Do as I say, not as I do."
You'd think that they all would see by now that we are all of this Earth and all have to work together to keep our humanity alive. But...fat chance of that.
That is pure, ignorance-based myth. For starters Islam has not existed for thousands of years, so "thousands of years of antipathy" is impossible. Additionally, Jews have historically been far better off in the Muslim world than in the Christian world. The greatest period of Jewish culture occurred in the Islamic empire, and many Jews rose to very high and prominent positions there. Large numbers of Jews fled to the relative safety and comfort of Muslim countries during the Inquisition and other periods of serious abuse in Europe.
The "antipathy" to which you refer is less than a century old, and is not religiously based.
Same old blinkered red-misted "if you don't believe anything against Iran you hate Jews". So limited and introspective.
I think most religions are weird but don't hate them as long as they don't dump their shit on the rest of us.
Anti-Jewish? Not at all. Anti-Netinyahu/ LIKUD/Mossad? Absolutely!
If you think the world economy is grim now, just let LIKUD loose on Iran -and Mossad has already murdered several Iranian scientists.
Quoting from from Juan Cole,
"Ahmadinejad made an analogy to Khomeini’s determination and success in getting rid of the Shah’s government, which Khomeini had said “must go” (az bain bayad berad). Then Ahmadinejad defined Zionism not as an Arabi-Israeli national struggle but as a Western plot to divide the world of Islam with Israel as the pivot of this plan.
The phrase he then used as I read it is “The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] from the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ 2006
Ahmadinejad was not making a threat, he was quoting a saying of Khomeini and urging that pro-Palestinian activists in Iran not give up hope– that the occupation of Jerusalem was no more a continued inevitability than had been the hegemony of the Shah’s government.
Ahmadinejad is calling for democratic rights for all in Israel & elsewhere. First human obligation is to listen to both sides, engage in debate, pose questions verbally with equal-time, record & publish the results for everyone to see. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/1-both-sides-now-article
I was watching Bush during his "Axis of Evil" speech and was horrified as the words cams out of his mouth. Iran had been cooperating with the U.S. efforts in Afghanistan by detaining Afghan militants in its own country who would have exacerbated the situation. But the First Moron stuck his foot in it once more.
Reformists and moderates had been gradually gaining political ground in Iran, until Commander Codpiece made that statement. I knew we were screwed at that instant. It spoke to the extraordinary ineptitude of his advisers, as he rarely spoke a word that wasn't handed to him.
"Nearly half of Israel wants Netanyahu regime gone, it is not annihilation of Israel or Jews, and it is the regime! The same dudes have the ability to distinguish between Republican and Democrat regimes in America. The late Prime Minister Menachem Begin wanted a regime change when Carter was the President, as Americans we did not look that as Anti-American."
www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/mike-ghouse/44696/ahmadinejad-world-forces-must-annihilate-israel
AP articles have long (25 years) seemed to me to have very uneven quality. At times there seems to be no operant editorial function. Some reporters are simply splendid (Rebecca Boone, in Boise is one such writer) while others are awful, and I would include the writer of this article in that category.
At your suggestion, I slogged through the Wikipedia page. I found it extremely biased and violative of Wikipedia neutrality standards in that most of the page is aggressively anti-Ahmedinejad.
Without (mostly) being anti-Semitic, RSN readers leaving feedback here have certainly and legitimately criticized the obvious excesses of Zionism.
I was astonished when the Bush administration claimed that Saddam had the logistical capacity to deliver his (nonexistent) anthrax sprayed over the U.S. He supposedly had drones that could do the job (though his drones only had a maximum range of 200 miles) and we were supposed to believe that they might be carried offshore from the U.S. on launching ships or boats to spread Saddam's alleged biowarfare.
Bush added fuel to the fire which is still consuming a not insignificant part of our budget. He bought enough Cipro to treat a nationwide outbreak. He paid a premium price for the drug stocks that have expired many years ago, and set up systems to deliver it.
It was priced at over $5 a dose, but legislative outcry induced the manufacturer to offer it for under $5. The government of India offered it to us for 11 cents a dose, an offer that was rejected in an effort to further boost Big Pharma profits.
Anthrax screening machinery was set up in mail sorting facilities all over the U.S., hugely increasing the cost of rural postal service in particular. A post card mailed to one's next door neighbor at your local P.O. has to be transported to a regional facility to be screened, then returned days later to its point of origin. UPS and similar expensive providers.
Just as with Medicare, the "R"S tried to kill the Post Office.
(Just kidding)
Has the very genuine terrorist attack through anthrax laced letters to senators Daschle and Leahy ever been officially solved?
Yet the Ames strain of anthrax has been identified, which points directly to Fort Detrick, not Baghdad.
The 9/11 attacks were "officially solved" within days, if not hours. However, the quality of these "solutions" has been seriously questioned by subsequent independent research. An "official solution" that is used as a club to beat down any independent investigation is worse than useless. The fact that the anthrax spores have been traced to U.S. military sources and that the targeted senators were the ones most likely to stand in the way of the "PATRIOT Act Express" speaks volumes as to the perpetrators.
The anthrax attacks can only be explained as overkill by those who planned and executed the 9/11 attacks. They have only heightened suspicions about the official 9/11 hypothesis in my mind.
http://www.youtube.co/watch?v=JZNQq7XBLwc
The FBI spent years trying to prove a case against the wrong guy.
When even they realized they'd been barking up the wrong tree, they shifted their attention to a more likely suspect who quickly committed suicide.
End of investigation.
If you're hearing echoes of the Koch brothers in all this, no need to see an audiologist...y ou're absolutely right!
Very sad that what is supposed to be considered a legitimate news organization is doing nothing more than broadcasting internet rumors.
Bilderbergs! Trilateral Commission! Protocols of the Elders of Zion! Queen Elizabeth the dope dealer!
Your comment sounds like something by Jack Cashill written for WND.
Publication of this nonsense by the AP is irresponsible and inexcusable.
One is reminded of the transparently bogus "Niger yellowcake" documents that were used by the Bush administration to promote the unjustified and illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, the misrepresentati on of the "aluminum tubes," the supposed stocks and delivery capacity of anthrax, etc.
A trip down memory lane.
September 5, 2002: In a White House Iraq Group meeting, chief Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson proposes the use of a "smoking gun/mushroom cloud" metaphor to sell the American public on the supposed nuclear dangers posed by Saddam Hussein. According to Newsweek columnist Michael Isikoff, "The original plan had been to place it in an upcoming presidential speech, but WHIG members fancied it so much that when the Times reporters contacted the White House to talk about their upcoming piece [on aluminum tubes], one of them leaked Gerson's phrase — and the administration would soon make maximum use of it."
This "graph" bunk from AP is a similarly crude attempt to fabricate support for violent measures against Iran. I'd look to the usual suspects: Elliott Abrams, Doug Feith, Richard Perle, AIPAC, etc.
These guys could have cut and pasted a graph from Mad Magazine and the dumb pols would have believed it.
"Israel knew Iraq had no WMD, says MP"
Associated Press
The Guardian, Wednesday 4 February 2004 03.55 EST
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/04/iraq.israel
Nice to know George Galloway had some company.
No country on earth feels an existential threat from Iran, but there is one pathologically aggressive country on earth that is using the pretense of an existential threat as an excuse for yet another act of aggression against yet another country.
No surprise either this week as we saw the USA and Israel vote to keep Palestinians from upgrading to nonvoting observer status in the United Nations.
Do an Americans ever feel like they are being manipulated??
The truth is you and I are simply on our own now. I wish you the best.
The rebels in Syria are not killing all non-Muslims including "all Christians and Jews.
It is true that Syria has always been a pluralistic country in which people of all religions lived together in harmony, an which was very proud of its historical place in the birth and development of Christianity.
But we see the push inside the Pentagon and DC inner circles to invade Iran. That leads to World War 3 and makes Nostradamus correct.
In the meantime the real threat, Climate Collapse, gets tossed under the table as deadly weather events continue to devastate the planet and millions die.
"So this is how it ends"
Gotta continue to read between the lines.
More details of constant propaganda can be found at CASMII. The systematic lie where nations pushing nuclear disarmament become the real threat - a triumph of mindfucking to pull that off - is the NPT TRAP.
I catalogue this stuff for my own interest. Opit's LinkFest! uses Delicious/Diigo to cache some sources while the blog is more about articles. Special interest items are in the sidebar, retired sidebar notes, and in the Topical Index.http://op itslinkfest.blo gspot.ca/p/topi cal-index.html
PS
Sorry. I seem to have gotten this thread off topic with the Israel discussion—a topic that invariably produces more heat than light. More relevant to the discussion was my other question, Is there any evidence of an actual Iranian nuclear weapons program?
The Japanese had made it clear they were ready to surrender before Truman dropped the bomb. So what was its purpose again?
Eisenhower certainly did see the destruction caused by our napalm firestorm that burnt Dresden to a crisp.
I will not go into all the different meanings and intentions that have existed under the term Zionist since the Holocaust. I think that for the purposes of this discussion we must strongly equate Zionism with, in the words of the 1975 UN resolution (now repealed), "a form of racism and racial discrimination. " In light of their long history of atrocity within its own borders as well as in Lebanon and Palestine, one has to define Zionism as a system that fosters apartheid and racism. I do not equate Zion and all its fascist, fundamentalist, racist, imperialist obsessions as necessarily being the mindset of all the people of Israel. There is far more criticism of Zionism and Palestinian apartheid within Israel than within the US where even President Obama proclaims he is a Zionist.
I do understand the longstanding hatred by Arabs and Muslims of the existence of Israel. Of all the stupidities committed by the Allied nations, the creation of the State of Israel has to top the list. It was like putting a hornet into the heart of a bees’ nest. It was done with violence and the dispossession of the people living in Palestine and has been an unremitting source of all the troubles in what has become probably the most volatile place on earth. It would be one thing if Israel were run by a government possessed of some shred of peaceful or humanitarian intentions.
Iran sees the US as a big bully who goes into countries, upsets their government and at times, places dictators in charge.
They also see Pakistan with a nuclear program and the US staying away.
They have reason to make a nuclear program.
Just look at our actions of the past.
What action we should take is the question.
The answer may not be simple, or the answer may be to remove ourselves from the mideast completely and let them fight amongst themselves as they have done for thousands of years.
Sounds good to me.
That is an ignorance-based , self-serving myth. The part of the world with by far the bloodiest history is not the Middle East, but Europe.
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