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Greenwald writes: "For establishment journalists like Raddatz, 'objectivity' is the holy grail."

Martha Raddatz moderates the debate between Republican vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan vice-president Joe Biden in Kentucky. (photo: Reuters)
Martha Raddatz moderates the debate between Republican vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan vice-president Joe Biden in Kentucky. (photo: Reuters)



Martha Raddatz and the Faux Objectivity of Journalists

By Glenn Greenwald, Guardian UK

14 October 12

 

umerous commentators (including me) were complimentary of the performance of Martha Raddatz as the moderator of Wednesday night's vice-presidential debate. She was assertive, asked mostly substantive questions, and covered substantial ground in 90 minutes. That's all true enough, but the questions she asked reveal something significant about American journalism in general and especially its pretense of objectivity.

For establishment journalists like Raddatz, "objectivity" is the holy grail. In their minds, it is what distinguishes "real reporters" from mere "opinionists" and, worse, partisans. As they tell it, this objectivity means they traffic only in straight facts, unvarnished by ideology or agenda. This journalistic code obligates them to speak only from what NYU journalism professor Jay Rosen, citing the philosopher Thomas Nagel, derides as "the View from Nowhere", a term Rosen explains this way:

Three things. In pro journalism, American style, the View from Nowhere is a bid for trust that advertises the viewlessness of the news producer. Frequently it places the journalist between polarized extremes, and calls that neither-nor position 'impartial'. Second, it's a means of defense against a style of criticism that is fully anticipated: charges of bias originating in partisan politics and the two-party system. Third: it's an attempt to secure a kind of universal legitimacy that is implicitly denied to those who stake out positions or betray a point of view. American journalists have almost a lust for the View from Nowhere because they think it has more authority than any other possible stance.

Leave aside whether that is even a desirable mindset. The reality is that, as desperately as they try, virtually no journalists are driven by this type of objectivity. They are, instead, awash in countless highly ideological assumptions that are anything but objective.

These assumptions are almost always unacknowledged as such and are usually unexamined, which means that often the journalists themselves are not even consciously aware that they have embraced them. But embraced them they have, with unquestioning vigor, and this renders their worldview every bit as subjective and ideological as the opinionists and partisans they scorn.

(In fact, one could reasonably make the case that those whose thinking is shaped by unexamined, unacknowledged assumptions are more biased than those who have consciously examined and knowingly embraced their assumptions, because the refusal or inability to recognize one's own assumptions creates the self-delusion of unbiased objectivity, placing those assumptions beyond the realm of what can be challenged and thus leading one to lay claim to an unearned authority steeped in nonexistent neutrality. That is why I believe that journalists who candidly acknowledge their opinions are better at informing others than those who conceal their opinions: conceal them either from others or, as is often the case, even from themselves.)

At best, "objectivity" in this world of journalists usually means nothing more than: the absence of obvious and intended favoritism toward either of the two major political parties. As long as a journalist treats Democrats and Republicans more or less equally, they will be hailed – and will hail themselves – as "objective journalists".

But that is a conception of objectivity so shallow as to be virtually meaningless, in large part because the two parties so often share highly questionable assumptions and orthodoxies on the most critical issues. One can adhere to steadfast neutrality in the endless bickering between Democrats and Republicans while still having hardcore ideology shape one's journalism.

The highly questionable assumptions tacitly embedded in the questions Raddatz asked illustrate how this works, as does the questions she pointedly and predictably did not ask. Let's begin with Iran, where Raddatz posed a series of questions and made numerous observations that she undoubtedly believes are factual but which are laden with all sorts of ideological assumptions. First there is this:

RADDATZ: Let's move to Iran. I'd actually like to move to Iran, because there's really no bigger national security…
RYAN: Absolutely.
RADDATZ: ... this country is facing.

Ryan's interruption made it difficult to hear whether Raddatz said that there is "no bigger national security threat the country is facing" or "national security issue". Either way, the very idea that Iran poses some kind of major "national security" crisis for the US – let alone that there is "really no bigger national security" issue "this country is facing" – is absurd. At the very least, it's highly debatable.

The US has Iran virtually encircled militarily. Even with the highly implausible fear-mongering claims earlier this year about Tehran's planned increases in military spending, that nation's total military expenditures is a tiny fraction of what the US spends. Iran has demonstrated no propensity to launch attacks on US soil, has no meaningful capability to do so, and would be instantly damaged, if not (as Hillary Clinton once put it) "totally obliterated" if they tried. Even the Israelis are clear that Iran has not even committed itself to building a nuclear weapon.

That Iran is some major national security issue for the US is a concoction of the bipartisan DC class that always needs a scary foreign enemy. The claim is frequently debunked in multiple venues. But because both political parties embrace this highly ideological claim, Raddatz does, too. Indeed, one of the most strictly enforced taboos in establishment journalism is the prohibition on aggressively challenging those views that are shared by the two parties. Doing that makes one fringe, unserious and radical: the opposite of solemn objectivity.

Most of Raddatz's Iran questions were thus snugly within this bipartisan framework. At one point, she even chided Biden for appearing to suggest that Iran may not be actively pursuing a nuclear weapon: "You are acting a little bit like they don't want one" (Biden, of course, urgently disclaimed any such view: "Oh, I didn't say – no, I'm not saying that"). To the extent that she questioned the possibility of attacking Iran, it was purely on the grounds of whether an attack would be tactically effective, citing former defense secretary Bob Gates' warning that that such an attack "could prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations", and then asking: "Can the two of you be absolutely clear and specific to the American people how effective would a military strike be?"

Note what Raddatz did not ask and never would. Even after both candidates re-affirmed their commitment to attacking Iran to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear weapon (Biden dismissed Gates' warning about an attack by saying that "it could prove catastrophic, if we didn't do it with precision"), there were no questions about whether the US would have the legal or moral right to launch an aggressive attack on Iran. That the US has the right to attack any country it wants is one of those unexamined assumptions in Washington discourse, probably the supreme orthodoxy of the nation's "foreign policy community".

Worse, even after Biden boasted about the destruction of the Iranian economy from US sanctions – "the ayatollah sees his economy being crippled. … He sees the currency going into the tank. He sees the economy going into freefall" – there was no discussion about the severe suffering imposed on Iranian civilians by the US, whether the US wants to repeat the mass death and starvation it brought to millions of Iraqis for a full decade, or what the consequences of doing that will be.

One can say many things about the worldview promoted by her questions. That it is "objective" or free of ideology is most certainly not one of them.

Exactly the same is true of Raddatz's statements and questions about America's entitlement programs. Here is the "question" she asked to launch the discussion:

"Let's talk about Medicare and entitlements. Both Medicare and Social Security are going broke and taking a larger share of the budget in the process.
"Will benefits for Americans under these programs have to change for the programs to survive?"

That social security is "going broke" – a core premise of her question – is, to put it as generously as possible, a claim that is dubious in the extreme. "Factually false" is more apt. This claim lies at the heart of the right-wing and neo-liberal quest to slash entitlement benefits for ordinary Americans – Ryan predictably responded by saying: "Absolutely. Medicare and Social Security are going bankrupt. These are indisputable facts." – but the claim is baseless.

As the Pulitzer Prize-winning former New York Times economics reporter David Cay Johnston has repeatedly explained, this is the primary demonstrable myth being used by the DC class – which largely does not need entitlements – to deceive ordinary Americans into believing that they must "sacrifice" the pittances on which they are now living:

"Which federal program took in more than it spent last year, added $95 billion to its surplus and lifted 20 million Americans of all ages out of poverty?
"Why, social security, of course, which ended 2011 with a $2.7 trillion surplus.
"That surplus is almost twice the $1.4 trillion collected in personal and corporate income taxes last year. And it is projected to go on growing until 2021, the year the youngest Baby Boomers turn 67 and qualify for full old-age benefits.
"So why all the talk about social security 'going broke?' … The reason is that the people who want to kill social security have for years worked hard to persuade the young that the social security taxes they pay to support today's gray hairs will do nothing for them when their own hair turns gray.
"That narrative has become the conventional wisdom because it is easily reduced to a headline or sound bite. The facts, which require more nuance and detail, show that, with a few fixes, Social Security can be safe for as long as we want."

That Medicare is "going broke" is as dubious and controversial a claim as the one about social security. Numerous economists and fact-checking journalists have documented quite clearly why this claim is misleading in the extreme.

Yet this claim has also become DC orthodoxy. That is because, as the economist Dean Baker has explained, "Social security and Medicare are hugely important for the security of the non-rich population of the United States," and "for this reason" many Washington media outlets and think tanks "hate them".

Nonetheless, Raddatz announced this assertion as fact. That's because she's long embedded in the DC culture that equates its own ideological desires with neutral facts. As a result, the entire discussion on entitlement programs proceeded within this narrow, highly ideological, dubious framework. As Jonathan Schwarz put it after the debate:

That is what this faux journalistic neutrality, whether by design or otherwise, always achieves. It glorifies highly ideological claims that benefit a narrow elite class (the one that happens to own the largest media outlets which employ these journalists) by allowing that ideology to masquerade as journalistic fact.

These establishment journalists are creatures of the DC and corporate culture in which they spend their careers, and thus absorb and then regurgitate all of the assumptions of that culture. That may be inevitable, but having everyone indulge the ludicrous fantasy that they are "objective" and "neutral" most certainly is not.

Miscellaneous debate matters

In the reaction I wrote shortly after the debate ended, I said that Biden repeatedly denounced Ryan for having "voted to put two wars on a credit card" even though Biden did the same thing. It was actually worse than that, as Biden seemed at one point strongly to imply that he voted against those wars:

And, by the way, they talk about this Great Recession if it fell out of the sky, like, 'Oh, my goodness, where did it come from?' It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, to at the same time put a prescription drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion-dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. I was there. I voted against them. I said, no, we can't afford that.

Like much of what Biden says, this is far from a model of clarity, but it would at least lead a reasonable listener to believe that Biden voted against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. But not only did he vote to authorize (and repeatedly fund) both, but he was the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2002 and his support for the attack on Iraq played a major role in shaping a pro-war discourse and then leading so many Democrats to support it.

One more note about Raddatz: near the end of the debate, she asked the two Catholic candidates how their religion influences their views on abortion. This was a reasonable question unto itself, but also reflects standard DC assumptions on these issues.

It is often noted that the Catholic Church stridently opposes reproductive rights. But it is almost never noted that the Church just as stridently opposes US militarism and its economic policies that continuously promote corporate cronyism over the poor. Too much emphasis on that latter fact might imperil the bipartisan commitment to those policies, and so discussion of religious belief is typically confined to the safer arena of social issues. That the Church has for decades denounced the US government's military aggression and its subservience to the wealthiest is almost always excluded from establishment journalistic circles, even as its steadfast opposition to abortion and gay rights is endlessly touted.

 

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+18 # orwell, by george 2012-10-14 08:19
crucially important points, glen. thanks
unfortunately, most people will vote for the duopoly.
party loyalty trumps common sense and morality.
so the democrats will vote for the war criminal.
and the repubs for the war criminal in waiting.
 
 
+24 # lisamoskow 2012-10-14 08:19
VERY good points made here.

Also what about Biden saying we were in Iraq to counter the El Qaida attack on the US (911)? This opens a large can of worms.

The ticker tape on TV declared Osama Bin Laden guilty of 911 as it was happening.
If that is true, then people in our government knew about it before it happened and are guilty of letting it occur--or it was a lie.

Militarism is killing us--US!
 
 
+7 # Eduardo3 2012-10-14 08:41
Thanks for the very informative article. About that abortion question, though, I disagree that it was "reasonable unto itself." I do think it was important that abortion be talked about, and it's worth noting that it took a woman moderator to bring up the issue. But in a nation where separation of church and state is a core principle--and in which our first Catholic President was elected more than half a century ago--there was absolutely no reason for a neutral moderator to inject religion into the equation. Even Paul Ryan seemed to get that, as he focused his answer on modern medical technology rather than church doctrine.
 
 
+27 # guyachs 2012-10-14 09:28
but ryan at the same time indicated he's perfectly willing to impose his church's view on the rest of us. I think that's the crucial part of that issue. If they don't use abortion, fine, I won't make them do it but they shouldn't tell us we can't.
 
 
+27 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-10-14 08:46
Actually I could agree with Martha Raddatz: if Iran is the biggest threat to the US, it just means that the other threats are so weak.

Just kidding - Iran does not have the bomb, and even if it did these guys are not the crazy nuts they are told to be. As Glenn Greenwald reminds us, they know full well they would be obliterated if they even tried to use such a bomb but as a deterrent.
Last time I know Iran attacked anyone, they were defeated in Salamine by the Athenians.

What this is all about is applied Karl Schmitt and Leo Strauss lessons: "A nation can only be strong if it is focused against an enemy".
(Hogwash, by the way)
Since the towel-throwing by Gorbatchev (whom I took care not to include in my list of stupid Nobel peace prizes in another post) the US had to create its own enemies from whole cloth to justify its humongous aggression expenditures -er I meant defense.

Remember the anathema about standing armies? That was over on Dec 1st, 1941.
 
 
+30 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-10-14 08:49
I forgot to mention: Great article, Glen.
Thanks for channeling the voice of reason, once more.
 
 
+18 # tswhiskers 2012-10-14 08:52
Thank you for this article, Mr. Greenwald. Most of us (I include myself here) forget the unconscious assumptions that underlie the thinking of the media and the public. Here really is proof that a lie told often enough can become the "truth". Yes, there really is bias in reporting the news; just not quite the kind of bias the Conservatives have complained of in the past. I think it would be wonderful if the media would decide to stop presenting "sides" of an issue and instead decided to present as much as possible the TRUTH of it. I don't care for example what industry or environmentalis ts think about golbal warming; what is the truth of global warming. I don't care what the political parties present to the public as their platforms; what does each party truly plan to do to grow the economy, to save or enhance (or change) Soc. Sec. and Medicare/Medica id regardless of WHAT the candidates say to the public. As I've said elsewhere much of the public have the attention and memory spans of a 3-year-old. Frankly, this also needs to change.
 
 
+31 # Doctoretty 2012-10-14 09:33
And of course, just calling Social Security an entitlement (which it is NOT), suggests bias.
 
 
0 # David Heizer 2012-10-17 16:21
Quoting Doctoretty:
And of course, just calling Social Security an entitlement (which it is NOT), suggests bias.

It's an entitlement. Just because the Right uses that like it's a bad word doesn't mean you have to buy into it.
 
 
+11 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2012-10-14 09:44
I question the author's assessment expressed in this statement: "Biden repeatedly denounced Ryan for having "voted to put two wars on a credit card" even though Biden did the same thing."

Keep in mind that Biden was referring to ECONOMICS at this point, and MY interpretation was that he was referring to HOW THE WARS WERE FUNDED OFF THE BOOKS and unpaid for by Bush & Co — not the military actions per se.

Biden addressed the economics specifically in this statement: "And, by the way, they talk about this Great Recession if it fell out of the sky, like, 'Oh, my goodness, where did it come from?' It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, to at the same time put a prescription drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion-dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. I was there. I voted against them. I said, no, we can't afford that."
 
 
+11 # CL38 2012-10-14 10:02
thanks for the clarifications. Please continue exposing and putting pressure on the media.
 
 
+5 # Jerry 2012-10-14 10:24
Glenn, you applied one of the messages in Parenti's book, Contrary Notions, quite well. No one is unbiased. Some do have open minds.
 
 
+13 # dick 2012-10-14 10:32
Absolutely BRILLIANT article. THANK YOU. The most dangerous form of ignorance is not knowing what you don't know. Raddatz has the truly dangerous faux objectivity of a corporate cultist. Self righteous, arrogant, rigid, condescending, convincing, ignorant, but with just enough "information" to make her smug & dangerous. Reminds me a little of Tom Fried-man, Freud-man, Frankencommentator.
.
 
 
+18 # fredboy 2012-10-14 11:27
Many thanks. As a former investigative journalist (back when there was investigative journalism) I am repulsed by the thick layer of bullshit, opinion, and outright lies that frame today's "news" media. We used to be the Fourth Estate, the watchdog--now it seems more like a pack of pathetic, baleful wannabees who simply want their egos stroked. Be smart, dig, and assemble the most complete information you can--don't let the talking heads do it for you.
 
 
+1 # barbaratodish 2012-10-14 12:17
We need investigative, etc., journalists who have ABSOLUTE SURVIVAL RESILIENCY EXPERIENCE instead of journalists who mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for EXPERIENCE in life. Barbara Ehrenreich is an example of invesigative journalism, that at least attempts to APPROACH ABSOLUTE EXPERIENCE IN life and death issues i.e., her book "Nickel and Dimed". We need more investigative journalists like her, who speak from a "PLATFORM" of some VALIDITY(even though it is virtual experience, and therefore relative truth instead of absolute truth), otherwise we have "journalists" that mistake inconveniences and QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES for LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES! Martha Radditz's "journalism", though somewhat better than Jim Lehrers' "journalism", namely "objective
neutrality", is, IMHO, tolerance of and participation in "VOMIT"!
 
 
0 # dkonstruction 2012-10-15 07:39
Quoting barbaratodish:
We need investigative, etc., journalists who have ABSOLUTE SURVIVAL RESILIENCY EXPERIENCE instead of journalists who mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for EXPERIENCE in life,(Barbara Ehrenreich is an example with her book "Nickel and Dimed" , etc.), because then they might, even if only occasionally, speak from a "PLATFORM" of SELF VALIDITY instead of from a platform of the illusion of "objective neutrality"! IMHO such "objective neutrality" is tolerance of "VOMIT"!


Are you saying that Barbara Ehrenreich is an example of a journalist who "mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for Experience in life" or am i not understanding you correctly?
 
 
0 # barbaratodish 2012-10-15 23:28
Quoting dkonstruction:
[quote name="barbaratodish"]We need investigative, etc., journalists who have ABSOLUTE SURVIVAL RESILIENCY EXPERIENCE instead of journalists who mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for EXPERIENCE in life,(Barbara Ehrenreich is an example with her book "Nickel and Dimed" , etc.), because then they might, even if only occasionally, speak from a "PLATFORM" of SELF VALIDITY instead of from a platform of the illusion of "objective neutrality"! IMHO such "objective neutrality" is tolerance of "VOMIT"!


Are you saying that Barbara Ehrenreich is an example of a journalist who "mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for Experience in life" or am i not understanding you correctly?[/quote

I meant that Barbara Ehrenreich IS a good example of the kind of journalism we need!
 
 
+1 # dkonstruction 2012-10-16 08:08
Quoting barbaratodish:
Quoting dkonstruction:
[quote name="barbaratodish"]We need investigative, etc., journalists who have ABSOLUTE SURVIVAL RESILIENCY EXPERIENCE instead of journalists who mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for EXPERIENCE in life,(Barbara Ehrenreich is an example with her book "Nickel and Dimed" , etc.), because then they might, even if only occasionally, speak from a "PLATFORM" of SELF VALIDITY instead of from a platform of the illusion of "objective neutrality"! IMHO such "objective neutrality" is tolerance of "VOMIT"!


Are you saying that Barbara Ehrenreich is an example of a journalist who "mistake their ego and drama PERFORMANCE for Experience in life" or am i not understanding you correctly?[/quote

I meant that Barbara Ehrenreich IS a good example of the kind of journalism we need!


thanks for the clarification; i did misread your initial comment. I agree with you completely about Ehrenrich.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2012-10-15 08:05
This is why I call it the "Owner media".
Actually, I thought Raddatz, in spite of the snide "Going broke" assumption on S.S., did a Hell of a sight better job than Jim "Snooze-button Lehrer (PBS -based), who let Twit roll over his pathetic attempts at moderation many times.
And don't forget the other two parties that weren't even allowed to participate in the so-called debates.
Again, I suggest that some of you try and catch the UK House of Commons "Prime Minister's Question time", with FOUR main parties (And in the past Galloway's breakaway from "New Labor""Respect" party with one seat) participating, moderated by a bewigged but ever sharp speaker (they've been of both sexes) -more like a referee at a boxing match. Gentlemanly it ain't but it's all exchange of verifiable fact, tempered with a bit of sharp, sometimes "Gallows" type wit.
 
 
+2 # MainStreetMentor 2012-10-15 09:03
It's not objectivity that's needed ... it's TRUTH.
 

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