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Excerpt: "The Wall Street Journal didn't even win the prize for most preposterous response to the Weill episode. That award went to former Treasury advisor and semi-disgraced financier Steve Rattner, who wrote a truly incredible piece in the New York Times editorial page about why Weill is wrong. ... it's hard to know where to start. But let's take the most obvious problem: He's lying!"

Sandy Weill, chairman of Citigroup, exits Carnegie Hall in New York where the annual shareholders meeting was held April 18. 2006. (photo: AP)
Sandy Weill, chairman of Citigroup, exits Carnegie Hall in New York where the annual shareholders meeting was held April 18. 2006. (photo: AP)



Ludicrous Times Op-Ed Forgets Entire Year of Wall Street History

By Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

02 August 12

 

t was riotous, side-splitting comedy last week when Sanford Weill, the onetime head of Citibank, went on CNBC to announce that he thought it was time to break up the big banks.

Why this was funny: Through his ambitious (and at the time not yet legal) decision to merge Citibank, Travelers, and Salomon Brothers into one giant wrecking ball of greed, self-dealing and global irresponsibility called Citigroup, Weill more or less single-handedly created the Too-Big-To-Fail problem. You know, the one currently casting that thick, black doomlike shadow over all humanity which, if you look out your window, you can see floating over all our heads this very minute.

Nonetheless, Weill came out last week against Too Big to Fail banks. "I’m suggesting," he told astonished reporters on a live CNBC interview, "that they be broken up so that the taxpayer will never be at risk…. What we should probably do is go and split up investment banking from banking."

The interview became an instant YouTube classic. The very funniest part, I thought, was the response of Squawk Box host Andrew Ross Sorkin, the single most credulously slobbering financial reporter on the planet this side of Maria Bartiromo. Even he was so shocked by Weill’s comments that he lost his voice – "I’m speechless," he said.

At about the 1:20 mark of the clip, just after Weill offered his incredible opinion about the need to break up the banks, any sensible reporter would have pounced. Some version of, "Dude, are you high? You invented Too Big To Fail!" would have been the proper response – followed hopefully by a spirited lunge across the set to beat Weill repeatedly about the neck and head with a Swingline stapler, until he screeched out a tearful apology to every last living soul on earth.

Instead, Sorkin took another tack:

"Okay, so then the question becomes – Glass-Steagall," Sorkin said. "You’re almost referring to bringing back Glass-Steagall, in some respects."

Now, what Sorkin actually meant to say here was, "Hey, asshole, we had to repeal Glass-Steagall just to make your Citigroup merger legal, remember? And now you’re pontificating, telling us we need to bring it back? Are you joking?"

Instead, Sorkin triple-qualified the question, first by not bringing up Weill’s role in the repeal of Glass-Steagall directly, then by saying that Weill had merely "almost" and "in some respects" uttered probably the most obnoxious and enraging comments made on television by a Wall Street executive in the years since the crisis.

The rest of the tape was similarly incredible. Particularly amazing was that Weill seemed genuinely surprised by the idea that Too-Big-To-Fail had anything to do with him, like it had never occurred to him that he might be criticized for what he was saying.

Anyway, what happened after Weill's outburst was similarly fascinating. The significance of Weill’s comments, of course, is that even a man such as Sandy Weill now says the Too-Big-To-Fail model is unsustainable. If even Sandy Weill knows it by now, who else needs convincing?

This should have been a debate-ender, a signal that we can all move past the arguing phase and get to the more daunting logistical task of breaking up mega-firms like Citigroup, Bank of America, and J.P. Morgan Chase.

But it didn’t turn out that way. The dug-in stalwarts in the major financial outlets, much like Japanese soldiers still swearing allegiance to the emperor from Pacific island bunkers years after Hiroshima, came out blasting Weill for, in essence, kowtowing to (probably communist) popular opinion. The Wall Street Journal put it this way:

Mr. Weill finds himself suddenly welcome in the company of editorialists who, since the Libor scandal, have been renewing their clamor for bankers to be imprisoned, if not executed. He's become their new hero.

The inherent Stalinism of those who crave to put bankers in jail for things that aren't crimes is not unlike that of the original Stalinist – who understood that nothing of substance has to change if you've got enough scapegoats.

How the Wall Street Journal can bring up the LIBOR scandal – both a textbook case of antitrust crime and more or less the ultimate example of insider trading, with banks trading against their own secret, non-disclosed manipulations of interest rates – and lump it in with things that supposedly "aren't crimes" is beyond mind-boggling. People can and do go to jail in America for smoking marijuana or selling food stamps for rent money, but apparently it reeks of Stalinism to even suggest that even one person should go to jail for manipulating an $800 trillion market. Moreover Weill, far from simply being one of the last people on earth to admit the obvious truth about Too-Big-To-Fail banks, has instead just crossed over into the Stalinist camp.

But the Wall Street Journal didn’t even win the prize for most preposterous response to the Weill episode. That award went to former Treasury advisor and semi-disgraced financier Steve Rattner, who wrote a truly incredible piece in the New York Times editorial page about why Weill is wrong.

Rattner’s piece, entitled, "Regulate, Don’t Split Up, the Big Banks," admitted that Weill’s comments "shook the New York-Washington axis."

"It was as if John D. Rockefeller had proposed the breakup of Standard Oil," Rattner wrote.

But he went on to say that Weill’s musings were "an ill-advised distraction." The reasons he gave for believing this are astounding. And what's astounding is not just that he has these opinions, but that his "reasons" got past the Times editors, who should have blanched at publishing such gross inaccuracies.

Here is the crux of Rattner’s argument:

A bit of recent history: none of the institutions that toppled like dominoes in 2008 — the investment banks Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, the mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the insurance company American International Group — were commercial banks.

So the bank merger frenzy that Mr. Weill set off in the late 1990s was not the proximate cause of the financial crisis.

There are so many things wrong with this passage, it’s hard to know where to start. But let’s take the most obvious problem: He’s lying!

Not just some, but many of the institutions that "toppled like dominoes" in 2008 were giant commercial banks of the TBTF type. Does Rattner remember Washington Mutual, which was only the sixth-largest commercial bank in America when it collapsed in 2008? How about Wachovia, the fourth-largest?

More to the point, does he not remember all of the other commercial banks that required massive federal bailouts to avoid "toppling like dominoes" that year?

Weill’s entire argument, remember, isthat these big banks should be broken up so that the taxpayer doesn’t have to rescue them. And Weill should know, because his Frankensteinian creation, Citigroup, required a $45 billion federal bailout and hundreds of billions more in federal guarantees.

Actually the total outlay for Citigroup was $476 billion in cash and guarantees – they were the biggest single bailout recipient, if you’re counting, with another classic post-Glass-Steagall creation, Bank of America, bringing up the rear with $336 billion in cash and guarantees.

All of the major commercial banking giants received massive amounts of federal aid. Chase, depending on how you look at things, either received just $25 billion or about twice that, if you include tax breaks and inducements to buy Washington Mutual and Bear Stearns. The story is similar with Wells Fargo, which took $25 billion in TARP money and also accepted enormous tax breaks in return for its "help" in buying Wachovia.

Rattner wrote some other crazy things. He said, "it is wrong to think we can shrink [banks] to a size that eliminates the 'too big to fail' problem without emasculating one of our most successful industries."

One could go on at length in answering this ludicrous passage, pointing out for instance how insane it is for Rattner to call TBTF banking "one of our most successful industries" when the business is now known all over the world to be so totally corrupt that nobody was even surprised when they found out that global interest rates were being manipulated. Or when basically the entire banking industry has been downgraded to near-junk status thanks to the widespread perception that their balance sheets are a travesty of phony accounting and unrealized losses.

But this would just be beating a dead horse. These arguments have been made over and over again. Even Sandy Weill is making them now. But everybody knowing the truth and everybody doing something about it are two different things, as we’ll likely spend the next years, or even decades, finding out.

 

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+19 # Tigre1 2012-08-02 07:26
PS: thanks, Matt. I count on you...and if you see Jann, I used to hang about the offices 'way back in '67 or '68. Of course he won't remember...but I am as proud of you guys as if I were part of it all...thanks again.
 
 
+35 # ewetzel 2012-08-02 07:42
No tax on off shore profits for corporations! At the same time the US has a policy of taxing on citizenship. E.g. a Canadian born in the US has to file an income tax return every year unless going through a lengthy and expensive denouncing of presumed citizenship. This is happening to people who have lived full time in Canada for decades and have no US income at all. It stinks.
 
 
+63 # fredboy 2012-08-02 07:50
Next week the Times is printing an Op-Ed by Charlie Manson denouncing violence.
 
 
+28 # shagar 2012-08-02 08:42
...and a rebuttal the same day by the columbine lads affirming their right to bear arms. What a country! Self interest uber ales!
 
 
+23 # mangel 2012-08-02 08:10
We should not wast time criticizing Weill and just push Congress into doing as he currently recommends.
 
 
-61 # dick 2012-08-02 08:42
WHO CARES what ANYONE but Benedict Arnold BURY-my-CONSCIE NCE Obama thinks? HE'S the Enabler in Chief. HE's the Nixonesque Obstructor of Justice. HE'S the propagator of the Stalinist Big Lie that the biggest crooks in history "did nothing illegal." NOTHING should be said about Wall St. Mafia without reiterating Obama's heinous role. Even worse than Clinton & Glass-Steagal betrayal, which should never be referenced without including Slick Willie's (see Oval orifice) name.
 
 
+34 # kyzipster 2012-08-02 10:53
Whatcha gonna do? Vote for Romney to see justice for Wall St? LOL!
 
 
+12 # Carol Sterritt 2012-08-02 14:51
The fact that Rmoney is pathetic doesn't make our current style of "Leadership" any less fascist. The definition of fascism is "when the State and Corporate World are One." We need a complete overhaul of the political system, and if everyone who understands that Obama is just as bought and paid for as the Republican alternative would simply vote Third Party, we could do this in November. But people are too cynical to believe in their own higher selves, and the higher selves of others.
 
 
+3 # kyzipster 2012-08-03 05:49
I appreciate the lecture but did I say otherwise? I was responding to a post that is clearly partisan, only placing blame on one side of the aisle.
 
 
+18 # Carol Sterritt 2012-08-02 14:43
I share your outrage. I can't figure out why more people don't understand that any Presidential Administration is 80% about its appointments. If you don't like The Too Big To Fail Meme, then how can you support Obama, with his former NY Fed "good buddy" Tim Geithner being one of the first appointments that the President made. Did the Republicans hold a gun to his head, circa Dec 2008?
 
 
+4 # The Ice Maiden 2012-08-03 14:29
Carol - With all due respect, you are in fantasy land if you think your vote isn't wasted by voting for a non-Republican or a non-Democrat. Period. If you're going to vote for the "Third Party", you might as well stay home.
 
 
+12 # The Ice Maiden 2012-08-03 14:55
Dick - I'm a lawyer and the problem is that much of the horrific behavior of Wall Street bums WAS legal. The fact that it was undeniably WRONG doesn't make it contrary to law.

You want to attack Obama for the behavior of Wall Streeters? The very people the Republican party is fighting tooth and nail to protect? You think Romney is going to be better? Honestly, if you do, all I can say is that your moniker fits.
 
 
+2 # maddave 2012-08-03 21:11
This is exactly the sort of rant that i love to see publicly and in print. This sort of illogic and blind, unsubstantiated raving effectively destroys any credibility that the always angry and negative right wing orthodoxy may have established elsewhere.
 
 
-26 # Interested Observer 2012-08-02 08:44
Why do you think it is necessary to insult him for admitting an error in public, however obliquely, and recommending that we do the right thing? Surely the criticism he will get from his now former comrades still with the program and their journalistic camp followers is enough.
 
 
+34 # Virginia 2012-08-02 10:25
Oh pleeeze - this isn't a simple "error." This is a premeditated USTPO patented every step from beginning to end Ponzi scheme. His admission does not lessen the crime - and where are the handcuffs?!

There should be a moratorium called immediately on all foreclosures, evictions, deficiencies and securities trading of MBS. Do you realize these banks are still trading these defective empty trusts? Yes, the mortgage-backed securities trusts are still being traded and the unlawfully foreclosed homes are still listed at the original mortgage value even this these crooks inflated the value and then sold them to themselves in the non-judicial credit bid foreclosure sales for about 1/2 price.

That sounds like major fraud to me - and where are our political leaders? Are their hands too dirty to call a complete moratorium - or are they scared rabbits being threatened by thugs?
 
 
+14 # Carol Sterritt 2012-08-02 14:48
In the Nineteen Thirties, there was a moratorium on foreclosures regarding anyone's primary residence in at least 35 states of the Union. But back then, we did not have the Oval Office, the Senate and many in Congress bought and paid for by the Big Financial Players. Oh, and the state legislatures are bought and paid for also. Last year, in California, very minor modifications were being put into legislation concerning the right of banks to foreclose and pillage.
And what happened next? Why, lobbyists descended in a bat shit crazy frenzy on Sacramento, until two Democrats capitulated. So the very minor modifications on greed and pillage were struck down.
 
 
+2 # kyzipster 2012-08-02 10:54
Not necessary but quite fun.
 
 
+3 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-02 20:40
I thought Taibbi's jibes at Sorkin were fine!

As to Weill, better late than never. He is taking the promise of absolution seriously. But he must do penance.
 
 
+4 # Jim Young 2012-08-03 08:01
Quoting Innocent Victim:

...As to Weill, better late than never. He is taking the promise of absolution seriously. But he must do penance.


It is a significant foot in the door.

I don't know if Charles Mitchell was so forthcoming in the early 30's (before or after he was fined, and reformed).

Who better than Weill to admit the game is unsustainable and help bring an end to it?
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-08-03 12:06
Quoting Interested Observer:
Why do you think it is necessary to insult him for admitting an error in public, however obliquely, and recommending that we do the right thing? Surely the criticism he will get from his now former comrades still with the program and their journalistic camp followers is enough.


You're right. no need to insult him. he should simply be trid, convicted and executed for financial crimes against humanity.

And, he is hardly saying break up the too big to fail banks because he has suddenly seen the light...he is calling for it because he knows a) that the whole thing is still a house of cards that can come crashing down at any minute in which case he and his ilk risk losing it all; and, b) given the seemingly daily new revelations about the criminal escapades of this organized crime industry i'm sure there are those that are worried that at some point the feds will have to get up off of their duffs and actually start going after at least some of these guys (could it be that there are also more crime skeletons in Weill's closet?).
 
 
-41 # PRG 2012-08-02 09:08
Mr. Taibbi, in all due respect, hyperbolizes above for popular outrage effect. Several of those TBTF institutions were instrumental (not necessarily of their own volition) in keeping our debit cards working by being prodded to acquire others in the depths of the downturn. Two of many examples: BAC's problems would have been far less w/o Merrill and PNC "bought" NCC and its toxic mortgage portfolio with TARP as opposed to transferring legacy costs from both to taxpayers directly. Once the toxicity is cleared-up, both firms should be substantially larger contributors than they are already on the local and state levels. The effects of closing bank doors on charities, community property values, and employment is enormous. Witness each local bank whose headquarters has moved due to acquisition and be careful what you ask for; "blowback" can be harsh as witnessed in international "relations."
 
 
+25 # Banichi 2012-08-02 09:34
Matt, thanks for an entertaining analysis of the 'Weill Affair' and its followup by the horrified financial folks with the most to lose if legislation ever gets passed to prevent the continuing rape of the populations of the world by the current laissez-faire banking regulations, or I should say lack of them. You are one of the most rational and sensible analyst-investi gator-commentat ors we have at this time! It was your pieces on the revolving door of government and banking that, along with the documentary "Inside Job," made the true circumstances clear to me, and I am sure to many others who wondered how there could be such corruption in Washington with no one doing anything about it. Bravo!

I have become much more of a cynic about these issues, in that I think the Occupy movement has created an awareness of the problems that has bankers becoming more scared, and that Weill was covering his ass to mitigate the effects on him later. The horrified responses by Rattner and others are damage control, trying to lie, mislead and misdirect the people so they won't notice that the financial empire's leaders have no clothes and are nothing but sophisticated, self-serving, lying thieves.

The implications for Geithner, Summers,
Rubin, and even Greenspan are making them deservedly uncomfortable, I am sure. Including, now, Obama.
 
 
+16 # Pwarren 2012-08-02 10:20
Thanks again Matt for being a voice for the rest of us.
To me Mr. Weil looks just like what he is - an arrogant, bloated, thieving thug. just daring anyone to disturb him in any way.
Maybe RSS will post this comment.
 
 
+7 # Pwarren 2012-08-02 10:22
Interested observer

You have got to be kidding.
If you were in the middle of a real huricane, you would probably call it a "light breeze" as your house turned to kindling.
 
 
+12 # Kathymoi 2012-08-02 10:42
If we could, as a society, value and actually insist on integrity, honesty, saying what you mean and standing by it instead of "positioning" and selling propaganda in order to get support for doing what would not get support if you honestly expressed your intentions. How can we get that into our world, honesty, integrity, truth, really supportable intentions instead of selfish, deceitful, harmful intentions dressed in sheep's clothing???
 
 
+16 # JSRaleigh 2012-08-02 10:44
As usual, The Wall Street Journal gets everything backwards.

I'm clamoring for the bankers to be executed, if not imprisoned.
 
 
+15 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-08-02 18:42
Let's not forget that the WSJ is one of Murdoch's creatures.
 
 
-30 # dick 2012-08-02 11:04
Sending $$ to Obama is REWARDING him for getting in bed with evil Banksters. You become his enabler. Do NOT give him a dime or a vote UNLESS he indicts his Wall St. buddies. Mitt didn't cause The Crash. T-Party didn't cause the Crash. Bohner didn't cause The Crash. Barry's bosom buddies, who have him BOUGHT OFF caused The Crash. Not Too Big to Jail. Bust 'em, then bust 'em up. & quit licking Obama's corrupted boots. He's with the 00.0001%, the CRIMINAL ones. Have the guts to FACE IT.
 
 
-10 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-02 20:36
Careful! You are angering the Obamaphiles. They still believe in the tooth-fairy.
 
 
+13 # Virginia 2012-08-02 11:13
They can break up the banks - but unless they make it illegal - with new tighter reforms, rules and regulations - to back room bargain, deal, trade, partner in secret, etc. it won't do much good because they gave away their teeth in the 1990s.

Spots on a leopard do not change - neither do corrupt banksters. They'll just find another way to scam the public and payoff politicians. You know, Iran's idea of death to those that scam the public may be a bit harsh - but it is certainly a deterrent.
 
 
+29 # NewYorkScribe 2012-08-02 12:04
Who Said This?

'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to
our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'

Answer: Thomas Jefferson 1802
 
 
+15 # ataraxia 2012-08-02 13:38
I would like RSN to make one change to its style manual. Instead of writing, "But the Wall Street Journal didn’t even..." that it would be written, "But Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal didn’t even..."
 
 
+5 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-02 20:33
Another 9.0 richter earthquake should have occurred after Mitt Romney praised the socialized medicine in Israel for its quality and cost-effectiven ess. Two such upheavals in one week's time, Weill's and Romneys are unlikely to recur in one hundred years of political hypocrisy, even by US pols.
 
 
+3 # JJS 2012-08-03 02:28
There must be money involved in breaking up the banks. Then after the break up Sanford Weill and his ilk will merge them, then break up, merge, break up, merge.... I think the term is churning.
 
 
+2 # Cmb 2012-08-03 15:33
Weill is only interested in maximizing his investment. He must have loads of Citibank shares and he wants the government to break Citigroup to improve his returns.
Just like 15 years ago he wanted the government to merge them to improve his portfolio.
He has zero interest in the financial system or in the economy. He is a pure capitalist.
 
 
+2 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-08-05 09:06
In the end the real problem is that it is not the governemnt or event the Fed that creates most of the money, but the banks when they extend credit.

Why should we the people allow the oil of our economic engine be created in private pockets? (gas = materials and tool; oxygen = labor)
And loaned out at interest, knowing that for these interests to be paid we NEED more money also created and loaned out by the same private banks?

Isn't that the mother of all Ponzi schemes?
 
 
0 # JackB 2012-08-06 07:34
Very good article. I believe the problem is the things being done are legal. Laws are usually passed to prevent something that has happened from happening again. Stop the financial leaders in one area & they come up with another way to achieve their goals.

Congress will always be one or more steps behind the financial leaders in making things illegal (assuming they do anything). The financial people will find another legal way to make money.

I would like to see something like RICO created to address these issues. The financial leaders can predict the consequences of their actions (that is why they do them). If people will be hurt that is something they would (or should) know. I would like to see a law that says - if you knew people might be hurt & you went ahead anyway - you're guilty. If you didn't know you should have. Asking that question should have been part of the planning.
 

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