In this interview, Ellsberg says, "Richard Nixon, if he were alive today, would feel vindicated that all the crimes he committed against me - which forced his resignation facing impeachment - are now legal."
Daniel Ellsberg faces reporters in 1971 shortly after his release of a highly-classified report critical of the war effort in Vietnam that came to be known as the Pentagon Papers. (photo: Public Domain)
Daniel Ellsberg: All the Crimes Richard Nixon Committed Against Me Are Now Legal
12 June 11
NLY ON THE BLOG: Answering today's OFF-SET questions is Daniel Ellsberg, author, defense analyst and prominent whistleblower.
He is the subject of a documentary about his life, "The Most Dangerous Man in America," nominated for a 2010 Academy Award, which took its title from the words former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger used to describe Ellsberg in 1971.
In the 1960s, Ellsberg was a high-level Pentagon official, a former Marine commander who believed the American government was always on the right side. But while working for the administration of Lyndon Johnson, Ellsberg had access to a top-secret document that revealed senior American leaders, including several presidents, knew that the Vietnam War was an unwinnable, tragic quagmire.
Officially titled "United States-Viet Nam Relations, 1945-1967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense," - the Pentagon Papers, as they became known - also showed that the government had lied to Congress and the public about the progress of the war. In 1969, he photocopied the 7,000-page study and gave it to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. In, 1971, Ellsberg leaked all 7,000 pages to The Washington Post, and 18 other newspapers, including The New York Times, which published them.
Not long after, he surrendered to authorities and confessed to being the leaker. Ellsberg was charged as a spy. His trial, on twelve felony counts posing a possible sentence of 115 years, was dismissed on grounds of governmental misconduct against him. In April 1973, the court learned that Nixon had ordered his so-called "Plumbers Unit" to break into the office of Ellsberg's psychiatrist to steal documents they hoped might make the whistle-blower appear crazy. In May, more evidence of government illegal wiretapping was revealed. The charges against Ellsberg were dropped. This led to the convictions of several White House aides and figured in the impeachment proceedings against President Nixon. (*More bio below.)
The federal government has now declassified the Pentagon Papers. The Nixon Presidential Library & Museum will release the documents on June 13, forty years to the day that leaked portions of the report were published on the front page of The New York Times.
Also, the PBS series POV is streaming "The Most Dangerous Man inAmerica: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers," on June 13 and 14.
In this interview, Ellsberg says, "Richard Nixon, if he were alive today, would feel vindicated that all the crimes he committed against me - which forced his resignation facing impeachment - are now legal. " (Thanks to the Patriot Act and other laws passed in recent years.) And he says all presidents since Nixon have violated the constitution, most recently President Obama, with the bombing of Libya.
Until now, the public has been able to read only the small portions of the report that you leaked. What do you think the impact of releasing all 7,000 pages might be?
The "declassification" of the Pentagon Papers - exactly forty years late - is basically a non-event. The notion that "only small portions" of the report were released forty years ago is pure hype by the Nixon Library. Nearly all of the study - except for the negotiations volumes, which were mostly declassified over twenty years ago - became available in 1971, between the redacted (censored) Government Printing Office edition and the Senator Gravel edition put out by Beacon Press.
(I've heard that most if not all of this has long been online. Here's a link I just looked up; there probably are others: Click Here.)
It would be helpful if the publishers indicated, by brackets or different type, what was withheld earlier. But that would be very embarrassing to the Library and the government; I'll be surprised if they do it. Most of the omissions in the GPO edition "for security" - a ridiculous claim, since their substance was nearly all available to the world in the simultaneous Gravel/Beacon Press edition - will appear arbitrary and unjustified.
I'd really like to see someone - a journalist or an anti-secrecy NGO - compare this version in detail with the redacted white space in the 1971 GPO edition, for a measure of what the government has regarded as necessarily classified for the last forty years. And then ask: just why was most of what was released by the GPO, covering 1945 to1968, kept secret as late as 1971? Hint: it wasn't for "national security."
What that comparison would newly reveal is the blatant violation of the spirit and letter of the FOIA declassification process by successive administrations (including the present one), in rejecting frequent requests by historians and journalists for complete declassification of the Papers over the years.
But if the hype around this belated release got a new generation to read the Pentagon Papers or at least the summaries to the various volumes (my highest hope, pretty unlikely), they'd get from them as good an understanding as they could find anywhere today of our war in Afghanistan.
The Pentagon Papers didn't explicitly present that last alternative, but their release contributed to that result, eventually. Is it too much to hope that their re-release could do the same?
Yes, it is. But fortunately there are a few Congresspersons, like Dennis Kucinich and Barbara Lee, Walter Jones and Ron Paul who got that message the first time, even if the Republican and Democratic leadership hasn't, yet. (Click Here to see a salon.com essay pointing to the only way out of Afghanistan, as it was the only way out of Vietnam).
On June 23, 1971, in an interview with CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite, you said, "I think the lesson is that the people of this country can’t afford to let the President run the country by himself, even foreign affairs, without the help of Congress, without the help of the public. I think we cannot let the officials of the Executive Branch determine for us what it is that the public needs to know about how well and how they are discharging their functions." How concerned are you that elected officials haven't learned those lessons?
I still stand by my cited conclusions, both for 1971 and for every single year since, including this one. But I never expected elected officials in the Executive branch (of which there are exactly two in each administration) or their myriad subordinates to "learn those lessons" or to accept them as warnings.
Leaders in the Executive branch - in every country - know what they're doing, and why they're doing it, and they always want to stay in office and keep on running things with as little interference from Congress, the public and the courts as possible: which means, with as much secrecy as they can manage. So I'm not exactly concerned that they're still at it (which is why I'm still at what I do), since that is so predictable, in every government, tyrannical or "democratic."
Our Founders sought to prevent this. Article I, section 8 of the Constitution, for the first time in constitutional history, put the decision to go to war (beyond repelling sudden attacks) exclusively in the hands of Congress, not the president. But every president since Harry Truman in Korea - as the Pentagon Papers demonstrated up through LBJ, but beyond them to George W. Bush and Barack Obama - has violated the spirit and even the letter of that section of the Constitution (along with some others) they each swore to preserve, protect and defend.
However, as has been pointed out repeatedly by Glenn Greenwald, (Click Here) and Bruce Ackerman, David Swanson and others, no president has so blatantly violated the constitutional division of war powers as President Obama in his ongoing attack on Libya, without a nod even to the statutory War Powers Act, that post-Pentagon Papers effort by Congress to recapture something of the role assigned exclusively to it by the Constitution.
This open disregard of a ruling statute (regardless of his supposed feelings about its constitutionality, which Obama has not even bothered to express) is clearly an impeachable offense, though it will certainly not lead to impeachment - given the current complicity of the leaders of both parties - any more than President George W. Bush's misleading Congress into his crime against the peace, aggression, in Iraq, or President Johnson's lies to obtain the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
Yet the most important point, as I see it, is not the secrecy and the lying, or even the blatant disregard of the Constitution, the Presidential oath and the rule of law.
As the Pentagon Papers documented for the much of the Vietnam era (we still lack, and we still need, the corresponding Papers for the Nixon policy-making, that added over twenty thousand names unnecessarily to the Vietnam Memorial and over a million deaths in Vietnam) and the last decade confirms: the point is that the Founders had it right the first time.
As Abraham Lincoln explained their intention (in defending to his former law partner William Herndon his opposition to President Polk's deliberately provoked Mexican War): "The provision of the Constitution giving the war making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons: kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all kingly oppressions, and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us." (Click Here to read the whole letter, which I keep pinned to the wall of my office).
As Lincoln put it, the alternative approach (which we have actually followed in the last sixty years) "places our President where kings have always stood." And the upshot of that undue, unquestioning trust in the president and his Executive branch is: smart people get us into stupid (and wrongful) wars, and their equally smart successors won't get us out of them.
Either we the people will press elected officials in Congress - on pain of losing their jobs - to take up their Constitutional responsibilities once again and to end by defunding our illegal, unjustifiable (and now, financially insupportable) military occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq and air attacks on Pakistan, Libya and Yemen: or those bloody stalemates will continue indefinitely.
In March - at the age of 79 - you were arrested in front of the White House - and then again outside of Quantico military prison - while protesting in support of Army private Bradley Manning, accused of being the Wikileaks leaker. Manning, charged with 34 counts including "aiding the enemy," faces life in prison and possibly, execution. Have you been able to communicate with Bradley?
It was then almost impossible to communicate with Bradley Manning, and I have so far done so only through his few visitors. In front of the White House and at Quantico, I was attempting to communicate with those holding him prisoner, to protest the abusive and illegal conditions of his detention, amounting not only to punishment of someone not tried, convicted or sentenced but to torture forbidden by domestic and international law and the Constitution even as punishment.
Do you believe what Bradley did was necessary and heroic?
Yes.
Do you still have all 7,000 pages of the Pentagon Papers?
I don't really know. Hundreds of boxes of files have gone from storage into my basement, and my old copies of the Papers may or may not be somewhere in there. I'm not going to go searching among them for the still-classified eleven words.
These days, when you find yourself thinking about Richard Nixon, what comes to mind?
Richard Nixon, if he were alive today, might take bittersweet satisfaction to know that he was not the last smart president to prolong unjustifiably a senseless, unwinnable war, at great cost in human life. (And his aide Henry Kissinger was not the last American official to win an undeserved Nobel Peace Prize.)
He would probably also feel vindicated (and envious) that ALL the crimes he committed against me - which forced his resignation facing impeachment - are now legal.
That includes burglarizing my former psychoanalyst's office (for material to blackmail me into silence), warrantless wiretapping, using the CIA against an American citizen in the US, and authorizing a White House hit squad to "incapacitate me totally" (on the steps of the Capitol on May 3, 1971). All the above were to prevent me from exposing guilty secrets of his own administration that went beyond the Pentagon Papers. But under George W. Bush and Barack Obama,with the PATRIOT Act, the FISA Amendment Act, and (for the hit squad) President Obama's executive orders. they have all become legal.
There is no further need for present or future presidents to commit obstructions of justice (like Nixon's bribes to potential witnesses) to conceal such acts. Under the new laws, Nixon would have stayed in office, and the Vietnam War would have continued at least several more years.
Likewise, where Nixon was the first president in history to use the 54-year-old Espionage Act to indict an American (me) for unauthorized disclosures to the American people (it had previously been used, as intended, exclusively against spies), he would be impressed to see that President Obama has now brought five such indictments against leaks, almost twice as many as all previous presidents put together (three).
He could only admire Obama's boldness in using the same Espionage Act provisions used against me - almost surely unconstitutional used against disclosures to the American press and public in my day, less surely under the current Supreme Court - to indict Thomas Drake, a classic whistleblower who exposed illegality and waste in the NSA.
Drake's trial begins on June 13, the 40th anniversary of the publication of the Pentagon Papers. If Nixon were alive, he might well choose to attend.
*MORE BIO: After graduating from Harvard in 1952 with a B.A. summa cum laude in Economics, he studied for a year at King’s College, Cambridge University, on a Woodrow Wilson Fellowship. Between 1954 and 1957, Ellsberg spent three years in the US Marine Corps, serving as rifle platoon leader, operations officer, and rifle company commander.
From 1957-59 he was a Junior Fellow in the Society of Fellows, Harvard University. He earned his Ph.D. in Economics at Harvard in 1962 with his thesis, Risk, Ambiguity and Decision. His research leading up to this dissertation - in particular his work on what has become known as the "Ellsberg Paradox," first published in an article entitled "Risk, Ambiguity and the Savage Axioms" - is widely considered a landmark in decision theory and behavioral economics.
In 1959, Ellsberg became a strategic analyst at the RAND Corporation, and consultant to the Defense Department and the White House, specializing in problems of the command and control of nuclear weapons, nuclear war plans, and crisis decision-making. In 1961 he drafted the guidance from Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to the Joint Chiefs of Staff on the operational plans for general nuclear war. He was a member of two of the three working groups reporting to the Executive Committee of the National Security Council (EXCOM) during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
Ellsberg joined the Defense Department in 1964 as Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary of Defense (International Security Affairs) John McNaughton, working on the escalation of the war in Vietnam. He transferred to the State Department in 1965 to serve two years at the US Embassy in Saigon, evaluating pacification in the field.
On his return to the RAND Corporation in 1967, Ellsberg worked on the top secret McNamara study of US Decision-making in Vietnam, 1945-68, which later came to be known as the Pentagon Papers. In 1969, he photocopied the 7,000 page study and gave it to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee; in 1971 he gave it to the New York Times, the Washington Post and 17 other newspapers. His trial, on twelve felony counts posing a possible sentence of 115 years, was dismissed in 1973 on grounds of governmental misconduct against him, which led to the convictions of several White House aides and figured in the impeachment proceedings against President Nixon.
Ellsberg is the author of three books: "Papers on the War" (1971), "Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers" (2002), and "Risk, Ambiguity and Decision" (2001). In December 2006 he was awarded the 2006 Right Livelihood Award, known as the "Alternative Nobel Prize," in Stockholm, Sweden, "... for putting peace and truth first, at considerable personal risk, and dedicating his life to inspiring others to follow his example."
Since the end of the Vietnam War, Ellsberg has been a lecturer, writer and activist on the dangers of the nuclear era, wrongful US interventions and the urgent need for patriotic whistleblowing.
He is a Senior Fellow of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation.
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Get off your duff and email the article to your Representatives and start making noise.
You do my heart good, Mr. Ellsberg. Thank you, thank you.
I truly think that the only thing that is going to turn this country around from it's continued march to fascism is for the citizens to demand that elections be held by voting with hand counted paper ballots only. Please educate yourself about this, please. We must put an end to votes being counted in secret by voting machines manufactured, programmed and serviced by hard-right-republican supporting companies with an agenda.
Our rights, freedom and liberties are too important to allow anything to compromise election integrity. All that care about social, environmental and economic justice would be better served if all votes are counted as cast in the open with citizens observing the count.
Peace
BradBlog has a Gold Standard for elections that addresses many concerns. The Center for Hand Counted Paper Ballots has also addressed the concerns.
Maybe you want to ignore this issue but I can't because it is too important.
Sure, we need a non-violent revolution but we also need elections where the votes are counted as cast.
Also, maybe you would like to come to DC in October.
http://october2011.org/statement
Peace
I don't ignore the election(s) issue; but, without the non-violent revolution first, the election issue is moot, and a total waste of time to try and reform. We've got to wrest the government and the country back into the complete control of The People first, and completely out of the hands and control of the corporate-fascists and Roman Catholicism, and then reform the election process. Otherwise, we would just be attempting to put a bandaid on a major severed artery, and/or be trying to swim upstream against a much-too-strong current. Remember, not getting this country and government back equals complete downfall of the U.S.; so, then, what good would a "repaired" elections process be?
I think a revolution will mean nothing in the long run if we have the same system of voting and counting the vote and I wonder exactly where I am wrong in this thinking.
As for being "defensive and snarky", I didn't vote down your comment. Maybe you read my comment with a certain mindset because of your remark; "good luck with that". I don't know. I am still thinking about your last sentence and am not exactly sure what you are saying. I am also not sure how to give The People complete control without elections where the votes are counted as cast.
Peace
Please, just call me Wolf. It is my legal middle name and what I go by as if it were my first name. Btw, my legal first name is Steppen (yes, that is spelled correctly).
http://www.wolfbritain.com/
I did look at your site and we agree on many things.
Rhetorically speaking, do you expect the U.S. government to allow a peaceful revolution? I was in DC for the September 24, 2005 protest; the time the bio-hazard sensors detected tularemia bacteria at the mall. I am also thinking about the recent peaceful dancing at the Jefferson Memorial and how the park service reacted to that.
Although we agree on much, we are taking paths that are different. I choose to respect that difference.
Peace
I am no longer shocked at how so many in office are compliant and agree with the changes in the government and constitution and all else.
http://onpoint.wbur.org/2011/06/01/hacks-and-cyber-attacks
Also, look at what happened to the paper ballots involved in tha WI supreme court recount. BradBlog has excellent coverage that clearly shows we need to address election integrity.
I think that much would change for the better if voters demanded election laws that assure the votes are counted as cast. You may also like to look at the work of Richard Charnin.
Peace
Those running for office and who supports them is far more important than the voting system. Who could you really trust to monitor the votes?
I would trust a group of citizens at the local level to count the votes with citizen observers. Any interested party could observe the count. I see that as a step up from what we have now where the vote is counted in secret by easily hacked machines.
Maybe you should research who manufactures the voting machines.
Peace
The other consideration is how candidates are chosen. The candidates are decided upon outside the party line and by some of the most powerful people in the U.S. And there always only two. ONLY two.
The country is now too big, too populous for a true democracy. Only locally are there real democracies, with citizen participation. Never nationally. If there was, and folks were allowed in randomly, there would be much greater oversight. How do you accomplish that in a nation of over 300 million people?
...He or she doesn't, as they claim, "choose to respect (our) difference(s)", but chooses instead to continue in their cognitive dissonance where no reason will truly be allowed to penetrate and/or succeed in dissuading them from their blind following of the "Pied Pipers" on their march over the edge of the cliff like the good little lemmings that they are [seeing as they don't bring about any, or very little, "horse-before-the-cart" true reform(s), and will continue to vote for, and be complicit in the mass-murderous war crimes of, the likes of ObamaCON].
FYI, I am not an Obama supporter and I have been actively protesting wars since the 60s. I am so involved that sometimes I have a difficult time deciding if I should wear pink, black or orange to an event. I am well aware of the "mass-murderous war crimes happening now and in the past.
I am guilty of voting for the lesser evil in elections.
As I said before, I agree with you about the need for a non-violent revolution and I hope October2011 may be one avenue for that. I just think that if we are going to continue to have a system where there are elections/voting, we must work to clean them up. I have been working for election integrity since 2000 when I became aware of the many problems in the system.
I do respect our differences but in my opinion, that does not keep me from being able to express my thoughts and ideas. Do you have any recommendations as to sites or groups that are working to address the very real problems with true reform(s)?
Peace
One of the primary things we in the U.S. need, for the sake of the U.S. as a whole, is a new, truly-independent investigation of 9-11, with subpoena power, leaving no stone unturned, going wherever it leads, no matter how frightening and/or horrifying the revelations are which end up being uncovered. For, if the real truth of what actually occurred on 9-11, and who was really involved, contrary to the official conspiracy theory, comes out, the entire "house of cards" of the "one-world" totalitarian national security police state that the U.S. is fast becoming would come tumbling down...
(Continued below.)
...I'm not saying that such a truly independent investigation will ever be allowed to be carried out. Look at the Warren Commission cover-up of the JFK assassination, and the fact that no truly independent investigation of same that held any of the real conspirators [i.e., "al-CIA-duh(!)", etc.] accountable, has been successful. The neo-Nazi "Fourth Reich" has so permeated and taken over the U.S. government that, short of a complete coup d'etat from within, and a complete overthrow of all of the tentacles of that "multi-headed hydra", it is highly likely that we are beyond the point of no return, and that complete totalitarian corporate-fascism is going to take over full control of the government, if it hasn't already, completely destroy the U.S., and bring about the evil, human-rights-and-freedom-eradicating, enslaving, and mass-murdering "New World Order (NWO)" one-world government; in which case, we're fracked, all of us...
(Continue below.)
...The globalist, world-government fanatics are the equivalent of the "Fourth Reich" today, and they are run by the same set of players and/or their philosophical counterparts, who are all sociopaths and psychopaths. They, including such prominent, allegedly benign and/or beneficent individuals like Ted Turner and Bill Gates, literally believe in eugenics and that seven billion people have to be exterminated from the face of the earth; and they have gotten many "environmentalis t", "animal rights", "progressive" and "liberal" proponents to support such total insanity. Sound familiar? Yes, it's very similar, but of much bigger dimensions than the goals of the Third Reich, which I and many others maintain was a "practice run" on a much smaller scale for the plans they have for most of us today.
So, again, one of our only hopes is a true, full and complete investigation of 9-11, and getting all the way to the bottom, and to the top, of "al-CIA-duh"/"Fourth Reich" involvement, holding all those involved in it totally accountable, rooting out ALL of the tentacles of this monstrous, world-wide-industrialist "Beast", and entirely reforming the U.S. government from top to bottom. If we don't, we're all screwed...
(Continued below.)
...You want proof of how insidious, nefarious and completely traitorous this conspiracy is? Read David Rockefeller's autobiography where he outright admits the treason that he and his co-conspirators are out to totally destroy the U.S., and admits his literally being proud of it.
Like someone I read recently so aptly and accurately said, if there aren't any conspiracies in the world, how come the U.S. government has so many laws against conspiracy(ies) ?
Therefore, "Sark", et al./etc., please wake all the way up to just how deep and evil the globalist conspiracy is, and do your duty to stand up against it like it is the duty of every true human being in the U.S. and on this planet to do. Need I say what you and your ilk are if you don't do so? Well, I'll spell it out anyway: Complicit traitors to all of humanity.
I think we agree about war (and peace), 9/11, Palestine and Rachel Corrie to name a few things. I have had an up-side-down american flag decal on my vehicle since 2001.
I have been with several of the groups for years, even before 2000, but it seems like every year things are getting worse and moving to a radical-hard-right extreme in this country. I am tired of contributing $, going to marches and rallies, protesting, writing letters, making phone calls and so on. I am so tired of hearing speakers say we have to vote these b*s!@rd& out of office that I could scream. The election system as is is too corrupt to be able to vote them out but these groups will not discuss that just like many refuse to talk about 9/11.
I am glad you are doing what you can do to address these issues your way.
Peace
Anyway, I may have underestimated you, but you're fighting for reformed elections before getting the republic back still bothers me, and contradicts much of what else you stand for. And your being silent here about 9-11 having been an inside job bothers me even more. Stand up for the whole truth, everywhere. If you get castigated and/or persecuted for it, so be it. That's part of telling the whole truth, and is unavoidable for those who truly take a stand for nothing but the truth.
(Please let me finish posting the rest of my above comment before responding to it. Thanks.)
My apology as some posts may not make sense in order and where posted. I sent the above response but then the RSN page did not show the post I was responding too so I sent a somewhat different post to another comment. I thought RSN may have decided to delete a post because of content so I edited the above comment to see if I could get an edited version through. I even opened the RSN page in several other tabs to see if it was just a problem with the one. After I sent the edited version, I then got a RSN page with my comment and the post I thought was deleted. I even went back to one of the saved RSN tabs to make sure the post really was not there. It must be one of those days but thought I would let you know.
Peace
You comment about the country being too big for a true democracy is interesting. I have thinking about the EU and all the difficulties the countries in the EU are facing and thought about the USA and all the different states and the difficulties we are facing.
I am very frustrated about how the candidates are chosen and eliminated and think that voting in most cases in just choosing the lesser evil. That is one reason I work to facilitate third party candidates having an easier time participating in elections. I think something should be done about Citizens United but that is a major battle that will be difficult to win under current circumstances.
You are correct about the potential for all methods of voting to have interference. Voting integrity groups are working to address this but audits have shown hand counted paper ballots to be close to if not 100% accurate. Hand counting can also be done much faster than citizens realize.
Again, thanks,
Peace
Laudable attempt(s), Glen; but you can't reason with "Sark". He or she is a typical "American" of either and/or both side(s) of the isle who continue in their cognitive dissonance, rationalizing the indefensible, being complicit in war crimes and mass murder [by continuing to vote for horrific cons and/or frauds like Barack "(Insane)" Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, etc.], ignoring facts that are inconvenient for them and their "sky-castle" "optimism", "hope" and belief in "change" that will never come (except for the worse), and their mass-insanity that causes them to truly believe in continuing to fight "cart-before-the-horse" battles that will NEVER win any True Reforms, etc. Yes, they have some things right, but their willful blindness on others can't be reasoned with. Their lord and master is darkness and destruction in the guise of "good"...
(Continued above.)
I am not sure how this make me, in your opinion, in the group you describe; "Their lord and master is darkness and destruction in the guise of "good"...
I do think of peace as "good" and war as darkness and destruction. That is why I support peace and am completely against war and violence.
Peace
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