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Bolen writes: "We lost nearly 3,000 people on 9/11. Then we allowed the Bush administration to lie and force us into war with a country that had nothing to do with that terrible day. Presidents Bush and Obama, and the US Congress, appear more interested in enacting misguided 'war on terror' policies that distract citizens from investigating the truth about what we've done, and what we've become, since 9/11."

(art: Kansas City Star)
(art: Kansas City Star)



NDAA Lawsuit a Struggle to Save the Constitution

By Tangerine Bolen, Guardian UK

11 August 12

 

Time after time, Obama's lawyers defending the NDAA's section 1021 affirm our worst fears about its threat to our liberty.

am one of the lead plaintiffs in the civil lawsuit against the National Defense Authorization Act, which gives the president the power to hold any US citizen anywhere for as long as he wants, without charge or trial.

In a May hearing, Judge Katherine Forrest issued an injunction against it; this week, in a final hearing in New York City, US government lawyers asserted even more extreme powers - the right to disregard entirely the judge and the law. On Monday 6 August, Obama's lawyers filed an appeal to the injunction - a profoundly important development that, as of this writing, has been scarcely reported.

In the earlier March hearing, US government lawyers had confirmed that, yes, the NDAA does give the president the power to lock up people like journalist Chris Hedges and peaceful activists like myself and other plaintiffs. Government attorneys stated on record that even war correspondents could be locked up indefinitely under the NDAA.

Judge Forrest had ruled for a temporary injunction against an unconstitutional provision in this law, after government attorneys refused to provide assurances to the court that plaintiffs and others would not be indefinitely detained for engaging in first amendment activities. At that time, twice the government has refused to define what it means to be an "associated force", and it claimed the right to refrain from offering any clear definition of this term, or clear boundaries of power under this law.

This past week's hearing was even more terrifying. Government attorneys again, in this hearing, presented no evidence to support their position and brought forth no witnesses. Most incredibly, Obama's attorneys refused to assure the court, when questioned, that the NDAA's section 1021 - the provision that permits reporters and others who have not committed crimes to be detained without trial - has not been applied by the US government anywhere in the world after Judge Forrest's injunction. In other words, they were telling a US federal judge that they could not, or would not, state whether Obama's government had complied with the legal injunction that she had laid down before them.

To this, Judge Forrest responded that if the provision had indeed been applied, the United States government would be in contempt of court.

I have mixed feelings about suing my government, and in particular, my president, over the National Defense Authorization Act. I voted for Obama.

But the US public often ignores how, when it comes to the "war on terror", the US government as a whole has been deceitful, reckless, even murderous. We lost nearly 3,000 people on 9/11. Then we allowed the Bush administration to lie and force us into war with a country that had nothing to do with that terrible day. Presidents Bush and Obama, and the US Congress, appear more interested in enacting misguided "war on terror" policies that distract citizens from investigating the truth about what we've done, and what we've become, since 9/11.

I, like many in this fight, am now afraid of my government. We have good reason to be. Due to the NDAA, Chris Hedges, Kai Wargalla, the other plaintiffs and I are squarely in the crosshairs of a "war on terror" that has been an excuse to undermine liberties, trample the US constitution, destroy mechanisms of accountability and transparency, and cause irreparable harm to millions. Several of my co-plaintiffs know well the harassment and harm they have incurred from having dared openly to defy the US government: court testimony has included government subpoenas of private bank records of Icelandic parliamentarian Birgitta Jónsdóttir; Wargalla's account of having been listed as a "terrorist group"; and Hedges' concern that he would be included as a "belligerent" in the NDAA's definition of the term - because he interviews members of outlawed groups as a reporter - a concern that the US attorneys refused on the record to allay.

Other advocates have had email accounts repeatedly hacked, and often find their electronic communications corrupted in transmission (some emails vanish altogether). This is an increasing form of pressure that supporters of state surveillance and intervention in the internet often fail to consider.

I've been surprised to find that most people, when I mention that I am suing my president, Leon Panetta, and six members of Congress (four Democrats and four Republicans), thank me - even before I explain what I'm suing them over! And when I do explain the fact that I and my seven co-plaintiffs are suing over a law that suspends due process, threatens first amendment rights and takes away the basic right of every citizen on this planet not to be indefinitely detained without charge or trial, their exuberance shifts, and a deeper gratitude shines through newly somber demeanors. But this fight has taken a personal toll on many of us, including myself.

My government, meanwhile, seems to have lost the ability to discern the truth about the US constitution any more; I and many others have not. We are fighting for due process and for the first amendment - for a country we still believe in and for a government still legally bound by its constitution.

If that makes us their "enemies", then so be it. As long as they cannot call us "belligerents", lock us up and throw away the key - a power that, incredibly, this past week US government lawyers still asserted is their right. Against such abuses, we will keep fighting.

 

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+73 # tswhiskers 2012-08-11 11:13
It seems that both political parties have become less and less democratic. Power seems to have gone to the heads of all our politicians even Obama's. I had hoped that Dems were made of better stuff than the Reps, and fortunately to an extent they are. Thank you, Tangerine et al for keeping faith with your democratic ideals and suing the US govt. over the NDAA. Perhaps we could take a hint from the Reps and start giving civics lessons to all 3 sections of the US govt. and cite parts of the Constitution e.g. unlawful detention, as part of the effort to make our govt. live up to its democratic principles. We have managed to keep the Constitution as a living document for nigh on 200 years. Now it seems that Ben Franklin's prediction may be coming true; namely that we have a republic but only if we can keep it. I fear that Franklin and the rest would shudder at the lack of democracy now to be found in both federal and state governments.
 
 
+37 # paulrevere 2012-08-11 13:20
My greatest difficulty is finding within myself the dark little corner needed to accept this kind of brazen, blatant treason...and then vote for it!!
 
 
+51 # smsmith 2012-08-11 13:28
It is clear that fear feeds such deceit...and citizens so far from the power source will do anything to feel safe..even if it threatens their own interests. No one is willing to lay down their arms and find another way to invest in peace. Rather, the tried-and-true methods of war, threats, tyranny, and intimidation seem to be the easier and softer way of political sobriety. I so appreciate the risks you are taking...
 
 
+12 # Trueblue Democrat 2012-08-11 13:29
"I have mixed feelings about suing my government, and in particular, my president, over the National Defense Authorization Act. I voted for Obama."

I voted for Obama, also, but this is reason number 1,372 that I will not vote for the lying scoundrel a second time.
 
 
+26 # unitedwestand 2012-08-11 17:46
Like Romney/Ryan will treat us better. Ha! Instead of giving up and protest vote, we still need to keep the worse of them out as much as possible.

The war machine is what is a threat to us and at least we have a president who is not as gung-ho as the Republicans are about war.

Romney will be a perfect patsy for the war mongers and I wouldn't give but a few months and I can see us in Iran destroying more lives, ours and theirs.
 
 
+9 # Fight Back 2012-08-11 19:52
Does this mean that you prefer the lying, anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-union, anti-safety-net , etc etc etc scoundrel Romney?
 
 
-10 # Norma 2012-08-12 04:13
VOTE FOR GARY JOHNSON!
 
 
+2 # JSRaleigh 2012-08-12 06:47
Quoting Trueblue Democrat:
I voted for Obama, also, but this is reason number 1,372 that I will not vote for the lying scoundrel a second time.


The problem is, will it be worse when the other lying scoundrel then wins by default?

I fear it will be just enough that I will vote for Obama again.

I'd really like a choice one time between good & evil instead of between lessor and greater evils.
 
 
+6 # tswhiskers 2012-08-12 07:53
So who DO you plan to vote for? We have a 2 party system which gives us some choice but certainly not too much. It's both a curse and a blessing. Obama has accomplished a great deal, more than you might think. But O isn't very good at blowing his own horn sometimes. And remember he could/would have accomplished more if he hadn't had this albatross of an obstructive around his neck. No, he is not the perfect Dem by a long shot. But he is still the only man running who is fit to be president. In these crazy political times if we are to hold onto our republic, then Americans are going to have to change their habits and become actually involved with their local and federal governments. I mean by this that we need to get involved registering more Dems and helping to get them to the polls. We can't afford our habitual apathy any longer. So don't vote for Obama, but please don't vote for Romney either. And please become as politically active as you can.
 
 
+1 # SpyderJan 2012-08-12 09:24
Quoting Trueblue Democrat:
"I have mixed feelings about suing my government, and in particular, my president, over the National Defense Authorization Act. I voted for Obama."

I voted for Obama, also, but this is reason number 1,372 that I will not vote for the lying scoundrel a second time.


Oh, and perhaps you would like to list at least a few of these 1,372 lies. I would bet that I can name Romney's lies on a lie by lie basis. As a "TrueBlue" Democrat, you seem altogether too happy to shoot yourself in the foot.
 
 
+48 # PABLO DIABLO 2012-08-11 13:38
Our government and the corporations that control it are passing laws now to protect themselves in the future. TAKE BACK OUR DEMOCRACY.
 
 
+38 # maddave 2012-08-11 14:01
Without w2asting time by writing a tome in defense of my conclusion, let me just say that--- having been under constant assault for the greatest (sic) part of my life,--- this noble experiment in governance called the Constitution of the United States of America is nearing its final collapse. The plutocratic, political and bureaucratic jackyls are constantly at work destroying its underpinning for their own advantages ---- to the point that we are no more than two --maybe just one BIG ---- crises away from from riots in the streets, martial law and a resultant coup that wil roll us into a probably-fascis t & military-backed autocracy.

Can this trajectory be reversed? Certainly, but ONLY if we VOLUNTARILY stat by adopting term limits, ban all private and corporate money from election finance and adopt Chinese style criminal sanctions for crimes of political corruption.

As was said in the old TV advertisement: "Pay me now or pay me (more) later."
 
 
+15 # wantrealdemocracy 2012-08-11 15:28
Wrong!! term limits and no corporate money will not get the 'trajectory' (collapse of our nation) reversed. We must STOP VOTING for the people who got us in this mess. There is no lesser evil. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are evil. You know this, but are afraid to break out of the two party strangle hold on our politics. There is no contest. Obama will win by a landslide due the the records of the Republican candidates. It is all a dog and pony show anyway. Obama will win but you can indicate your rejection of the two corporate parties by voting independent or third party. That goes for the Legislative branch of our government as well as the Executive.
 
 
+5 # maddave 2012-08-11 21:23
Your comment, wantreal would be right on IF we were living on the dark side of the moon where everything is fair and just,,but this is the real world where we all vote for the best interests of out pocketbooks. If you are a pro-life, anti-gay, xenophobic, one-per-center, then the GOP is your cup o' tea. For the rest of us, our only choice is democratic, BECAUSE whether you withhold your vote or give it to a hopeless third-patty candidate, it's all the same ---in effect you will be casting half-a-vote for Romney.

Obama has had a rough four years in which the GOP's announced goal was to sabotage his administration at every turn and by any method available ... in a backfired attempt to screw-up this country, blame it entirely on Obama and defeat his (under the present circumstances) wholly ,justified bid for re-election.

You want change? Return Obama to, the Oval Office along with a House majority and sixty dependable democratic senators.
 
 
+6 # Street Level 2012-08-11 14:10
Ok readers, clue me in. I thought that Obama signed a provision addressing 1021 that excluded US citizens a few months ago (not that it makes anything about NDAA better) but I obviously missed something.
 
 
+11 # William LeGro 2012-08-11 15:12
That's true - US citizens are exempt. From detention, not from harassment. And we all know how authoritative a law is when it comes to signing statements. And how likely - and difficult - would it be for the government, in the wake of an act of terrorism within the United States, to get Congress to override that exemption?
 
 
+32 # Stephanie Remington 2012-08-11 15:24
That is NOT true. US citizens are neither exempt from harassment nor detention.

What we have is Obama's word that even though the law allows it, he will not use it against Americans.

Taking him at his word would be optimistic to the point of delusional, particularly given the following facts:

1) the original legislation exempted Americans and Obama objected to that 'limitation,' so Levin re-wrote it without the exemptions for Americans (why demand it if he had no intention of using it?);
2) prior to the injunction, Obama's lawyers refused, in court, to state that this law would NOT be used against specific Americans for exercising their first amendment rights (if he had no intention of using the law in this manner, why not come right out and say it?);
3) after the injunction, his lawyers also refused to say whether they had flouted the injunction by implementing any of the provision (if he hadn’t already broken the law, why not just say it?).
 
 
+20 # Trueblue Democrat 2012-08-11 15:56
Great post, Stephanie,

Plus even if Saint Obama chooses not to use the abomination he signed in to law, how about the next creature who follows him. What if its someone even worse -- if there be such.
 
 
+7 # Stephanie Remington 2012-08-11 21:41
You're right. And there's always worse.
 
 
+10 # SOF 2012-08-11 17:32
Video of Carl Levin explaining that the Administration itself had requested removal of Amendment to protect Americans from military detention,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DNDHbT44cY
 
 
+4 # MidwestTom 2012-08-11 15:48
Why do you think that FEMA is busy building concentration camps all over this country?
 
 
+9 # ritaague 2012-08-11 16:28
Congrats for being a question asker. We soooooo desperately these days need critical thinkers vs. dumbed down sheeple who endlessly fall for karlroving and 'mess' media MSD - manipulation, spin, distraction.

While Pres. Obama did put into writing that, while he was pres., no indefifinte detention, following arrest by military, would happen against civilian journalists, et. al.. However, that gives no assurance of what will happen to our so dedicated, truthtelling journalists, whistleblowers, activists, etc..

The president's defense team, in their brief opposing the temp. restraining order's being turned into a permanent restraining order, cited 'independent journalists' being excluded from such treatment. However, no clear definition of what constitutes 'independent' is not included.

Time to go online, Google: Justia, and pull up Hedges, et. al. v. Obama, et. al. This is beyond serious, folks.
 
 
+1 # Fight Back 2012-08-11 20:06
Quoting Street Level:
Ok readers, clue me in. I thought that Obama signed a provision addressing 1021 that excluded US citizens a few months ago (not that it makes anything about NDAA better) but I obviously missed something.


Here's the url and beginning of Obama's signing statement.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/31/statement-president-hr-1540
Home • Briefing Room • Statements & Releases

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release Decem ber 31, 2011
Statement by the President on H.R. 1540
Today I have signed into law H.R. 1540, the "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012."



The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists.
 
 
+35 # Adoregon 2012-08-11 14:48
When the government places itself above any law, there is no law.

Fear and intimidation are the tools of those who can never win our hearts and minds with their actions.

Ergo, transparency, truth, open government in the best interests of all the people... all illusion.
 
 
+37 # tedrey 2012-08-11 14:55
Look, we know the past two Presidents have not only claimed, but carried out, things that even the Congress is not constitutionall y allowed;

That Congress itself is thoroughly bought and paid for, and, although at the lowest public approval ever, will be just as corrupt after the election as before;

That the Supreme Court is completely politicized, hardly even paying lip service to the requirements of the Constitution;

That neither dominant party shows the slightest intention of cleaning up its own stable, much less facing vital questions of war and peace, climate change, and financial exploitation;

That there's hardly one of the Bill of Rights that is left standing between the citizen and the Autocratic State;

That our ranking on social acheivement among developed nations is abysmal;

That the rest of the world likes and trusts us less than ever;

And that most of the media seem capable of evading these issues indefinitely:

It behoves those of us who have come to the above realizations to take a deep breath, put it all together, and say:

This government is no longer legitimate; that is, it no longer has any right to our respect, our taxes, or our obedience, becuase it has not carried out its side of the bargain. If it takes them anyway, it is tyrannical.
 
 
+11 # paulrevere 2012-08-11 15:27
Very adroit summation...tha nk you tedry.
 
 
+30 # anarchteacher 2012-08-11 14:57
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacht_und_Nebel

NDAA = Night and Fog

It is time for naïve progressives to waken from the mind-numbing slumber of the past four years and realize that Barack Obama is not the Good Shepard who cares for his sheep out of beneficence and altruism, but only to keep them fattened up and willfully ignorant in order to sheer and then slaughter them.

Mitt Romney makes no so pretense. His intent is openly mercenary and predatory but to the same exact effect.

The Establishment overlords would not have it otherwise for these two hired hands and their duplicitious red and blue teams, the Bloods and Crips of electoral politics.
 
 
+30 # Vardoz 2012-08-11 15:08
If we the people don't get active we will lose everything. We are in the for the fight of our lives. A corporate coup that wants to crush us and our freedoms, laws and protections. If we are not willing to take to the streets then we need to take back our congress with Independent reps like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and good Democrats. Corporations, Wall St, The banks, the military and the rich have vast power now and we must act or perish as a nation. And they want to steal this election too to make sure they get their way at the expense of all of us.
 
 
+13 # phanen 2012-08-11 15:15
Thank you. Where may I make a contribution toward your legal expenses?
 
 
+10 # mgwmgw 2012-08-11 15:15
That is why Gary Johnson or Jill Stein would be better candidates.

http://www.change.org/petitions/commission-on-presidential-debates-include-gary-johnson-and-jill-stein-in-the-presidential-debates
 
 
+7 # paulrevere 2012-08-11 15:29
...and Rocky Anderson.
 
 
+30 # Buddha 2012-08-11 15:18
If anybody has any knowledge of history, they will know the result of giving up your rights out of fear. Witness Germany's Reichstag Fire and the stupid response to it by giving Hitler the chancellorship and autocratic power. Obama has severely disappointed me in helping lay the paving stone for the path to autocracy that is the NDAA. His BS signing statement saying he wouldn't use it improperly against American citizens? If anybody believes that, I have a bridge to sell you...and even if he stays true to his word, who is to say the NEXT President will be so unwilling to use all the powers this act grants?? But I shouldn't be surprised, it was Obama's DOJ and DHS that conference-call ed with city mayors to in a coordinated fashion crush our Occupy encampments, proving that the 1st Amendment Rights really don't exist anymore (except if you are a corporation or a Plutarch, THEY got all the rights we used to have)
 
 
+24 # Charles3000 2012-08-11 16:06
Yes, "almost" 3000 lost on 9/11 but Bush, et al sacrificed over 4000 young Americans in the invasion and occupation of Iraq to gain control of oil production in that country.
 
 
-11 # phantomww 2012-08-11 17:01
then why don't we have control of their oil production if that was the reason we attacked Iraq?
 
 
-6 # MidwestTom 2012-08-11 16:13
In my business I travel from Texas to Pennsylvania, to Michigan. Every commenter here is echoed in avery bar and dinner that I visit. Nobody that I have met wants us to be the policeman of the world. Most fear the presence of Muslims in our midst. The states between the mountains are more and more opposed to the path that the Eastern corridor is plotting for us.. This is not a decision of Democrat versus Republican, but A decision if what your vision of America really is.

Most fear that our attempt to rule the world will end up b bankrupting us. We spend billions fighting wars with no gain for us. Personally I believe that much of our current problems come from the many top officials in our government who hold dual citizenships. These men cannot be loyal in their heart to our country. Instead they use our formable military might to fight for cause related to the country they love.

As long as we operate like the evil empire we can expect more and more potential terror acts here, and more and more loss of liberty.

Due to the social problems caused by the rapidly growing Muslim population, t he Netherlands is now attempting to reverse multi-cultutali sm. We should l;earn from their experience.
 
 
+18 # angelfish 2012-08-11 16:15
Sadly, people are so consumed with keeping a roof over their families heads and food on their tables, they fail to see the danger or are just too apathetic to care. The Mega-Wealthy make some of us feel TOTALLY helpless and impotent in the face of all their treacherous, treasonous dollars. Until our Congress, our SCOTUS and our D.O.J. begins to DO their job of doing what is BEST for America and her PEOPLE, things are probably not going to change. With a majority of Hard Right-Wing Ideologues on our SCOTUS, who totally abuses our Constitution and distort it for Partisan benefit, and who, by their rulings have shown, don't give Fiddler's Bitch for the Constitution or the people it serves, HOW will it EVER get any better? When our D.O.J. goose-steps in line with the tactics affirmed and fostered by the Bush/Cheney Regime, they have DEFINITELY lost their way! I hope your lawsuit is successful but the deck is stacked in their favor. Mr. President, WAKE UP, Sir! YOU have some power to change this! STOP the fear tactics used by the THUGS! God save America! Oh and yes, Vote in November, but never, EVER for a ReTHUGlican!
 
 
+18 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-08-11 17:05
The Reichstag, oops, the WTC, has been burned; the dud statesman von Schliecher, oops, Bush, has been replaced; the Labour movement, oops, OWS, has been chained; the innocent opponent, Czechoslovakia, oops, Iraq, has been smashed...It’s 1937, oops, 2012; & here we go again....
 
 
+17 # grouchy 2012-08-11 17:09
First, if anyone cares to dig into the pre-Iraq war, they will discover the Bushies tried several ways to "spin" the invasion. When these didn't work, they finally came up with "weapons of mass destruction", a typical scare theme they continued to use.

Second, the war will be shown in history books of the future after the spin nonsense from both Republicans and Democrats, to have been about stealing oil from the second largest untapped oil source in the world. Keep mind that both Bush and Cheney were from that industry. The war was an overeager attempt to grab the goods!
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-08-11 17:59
Decades of letting republicans in the White House have made it much more difficult to find a republican appointed federal judge sympathetic to the cause of saving the Constitution.

It DOES matter who's in the White House. It DOES matter who we elect.
 
 
+10 # SMoonz 2012-08-12 01:23
Obama fought to add the Indefinite Detention clause in the NDAA and is now fighting tooth and nail to keep it in. I guess it does matter that we elected him.
 
 
+15 # reiverpacific 2012-08-11 20:14
The constitution is now used as mock trial symbol -"You abused it more than we did, -so there"!
I (and I'm a "Resident Alien", not a citizen) keep a pocket-sized copy with me at all times so I can quote and refer to it when some jar-head tries to get argumentative and falls back on it (especially when discussing guns and religion). You'd be shocked -or maybe not- to realize just how little the average Joe/Joanne knows, or even has a clue about this document and it's intent. Some of them will eventually fall back on "Well it's pretty out of date y'know", reflecting that basic latter-day manipulation, mis-considerati on, then blatant disregard for it and thereby the ejection of ethics from any debate.
I knew an old British barrister who kept a copy of the Magna Carta close by the other documents accompanying his briefs and was familiar enough with it to take several judges to task on it when the "Burden of Proof" was in danger of being tossed out in the zeal to get a conviction.
We need to stuff this nation-founding parchment back down the throats of those who would abuse it, especially the current crop of pretenders in the judiciary majority.
As for 9/11, who was it who said rightly that "If 9/11 hadn't happened, the (Dimwits/Cheney ) administration would have had to make it happen!"
B.T.W., I'm one of the many and growing "Architects and Engineers for truth about 9/11" -and we are still waiting on some answers.
 
 
+11 # medusa 2012-08-11 21:10
Along with AE911 truth, there is also Scholars for 911 turth, and Pilots for 911 truth.
We need restoration of Habeas Corpus.
 
 
+4 # carlos 2012-08-12 17:39
"Due to the NDAA, Chris Hedges, Kai Wargalla, the other plaintiffs and I are squarely in the crosshairs of a "war on terror" that has been an excuse to undermine liberties, trample the US constitution, destroy mechanisms of accountability and transparency, and cause irreparable harm to millions." Actually, because of this obscene law, we're ALL in the crosshairs. As MLK said, "Everything Hitler did was legal."
 

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