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Intro: "Mississippi state Rep. Bubba Carpenter (R) said that it's OK for women to have coat-hanger abortions because it's for a greater good."

Mississippi lawmaker Bubba Carpenter has said that coat-hanger abortions are OK. (photo: public domain)
Mississippi lawmaker Bubba Carpenter has said that coat-hanger abortions are OK. (photo: public domain)



Coat-Hanger Abortions Are Fine, Says Mississippi Lawmaker

By Annie-Rose Strasser, ThinkProgress

16 May 12

 

ississippi state Rep. Bubba Carpenter (R) said that it's OK for women to have coat hanger abortions because it's for a greater good.

A video obtained by Rachel Maddow's blog captures Carpenter saying he is proud of Mississippi's attempts to outlaw abortion outright, despite the fact that the Supreme Court has ruled abortions legal in the United States.

And what about women who will perform self-induced abortions because they cannot afford to go out of state to get the procedure? “Hey,” he says, “you have to have moral values”:

It's going to be challenged, of course, in the Supreme Court and all - but literally, we stopped abortion in the state of Mississippi, legally, without having to- Roe vs. Wade. So we've done that. I was proud of it. The governor signed it into law. And of course, there you have the other side. They're like, ‘Well, the poor pitiful women that can't afford to go out of state are just going to start doing them at home with a coat hanger. That's what we've learned over and over and over.'

But hey, you have to have moral values. You have to start somewhere, and that’s what we've decided to do. This became law and the governor signed it, and I think for one time, we were first in the nation in the state of Mississippi

Watch it:

Mississippi recently passed a law meant that legislators claimed was meant to stop self-induced abortions, known as “coat hanger abortions,” which are generally extremely unsafe and dangerous to a woman's health. At the same time, this law will likely force the state's only abortion clinic to close.

 

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+53 # Maverick 2012-05-16 07:56
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What more can we expect from someone named "Bubba?" Yup, Mississippi is leading the nation alright . . . they now -- officially -- have the stupidest legislator on the planet. Do we need any further proof that minimum IQ tests for those holding public office should be required? Roe v. Wade will never rest as long as these twisted nut-jobs are given a national platform to parade their ignorance upon.
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+50 # Alice 2012-05-16 07:58
I think they are also first in infant mortality, but what the hay... it's only women's lives, right? What are women's lives compared to this thick-headed idiot's morality?
 
 
+22 # Lolanne 2012-05-16 09:52
Quoting Alice:
I think they are also first in infant mortality, but what the hay... it's only women's lives, right? What are women's lives compared to this thick-headed idiot's morality?


You are right, MI is ranked #1 in infant mortality rates.
See http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank17.html

Of the top 10, 7 of them are southern states. The other 3 are Alaska (4), Delaware (5), and Ohio (8). Apparently, the officials of these and so many more states have no shame at all.

But hey, the US can't brag either -- we rank 34 among the 194 countries of the world. A sad state of affairs for a country that calls itself the "greatest" in the world.
 
 
+13 # BVA 2012-05-16 14:57
In addition, I bet the rate of pregnancy loss (miscarriage) is higher in most of those mean-spirited states trying hardest to outlaw contraception and abortion.

Each year of the "approximately 2 million women who experience pregnancy loss" in the U.S. the following causes are noted in the statistics: 1) "600,000 women experience pregnancy loss through miscarriage; 2) "64,000…through ectopic pregnancy; 3) "6,000…through molar pregnancies; 4) "26,000…through stillbirth" (American Pregnancy Association). Medline Plus: "…miscarriage rate is about 15-20%".

Did a god, or "the God", purposely install a unique "soul" in all those fetuses? Does that fetus "soul" have an 'afterlife' per any (or all) current theology(s)? Do even those fetuses without a developing brain have a "soul" that goes to "heaven"? (Having had little time to commit any 'sins', let alone the physical organ necessary to form the required 'intentionality ' to commit a 'sin', where else could such a "soul" end-up in any 'afterlife' scenario?)

Given these statistics we can assume the possibility exists that a high percentage of the "souls" in "heaven" never had a fair chance of committing a sin that might allow them to at least visit the "other place" (or places in between). Heaven is most likely overrun with such "souls"!

Belief in superstitions and the supernatural can lead to dysfunctional policy decisions in our institutions, especially our governmental institutions.
 
 
+34 # MizKatz 2012-05-16 08:40
Note the woman standing next to him and clapping -- sometimes women are their own worst enemies!!
 
 
+7 # Lilredhead1954 2012-05-16 22:23
That should read, "sometime republican women are their own worst enemies.
 
 
+39 # Mamazon 2012-05-16 08:52
Too bad Bubba Carpenter wasn't aborted...
 
 
+17 # grouchy 2012-05-16 09:04
Good gowd! Are we now going back deeper into history than the middle ages--perhaps to the cave man days?

So how do we get back to the state of sanity?
 
 
+20 # bobaka 2012-05-16 09:04
I know that for a fundamentalist a woman is just his breeding animal with no choice whatever as to whether she has sex with her lord husband or becomes pregnant.Libera l myth is the progressive woman and her vast freedoms and equality. Notion that most women have a progressive life is an absolute lie. I have to argue with women trained to submissiveness that they are trained to be submissive to men.The cold blooded viciousness of a man who accepts condemning a woman to a coat-hanger abortion proves again that neo-nazis have their agenda and they are coming for you in a thousand ways.People who are against abortion know they wouldn't exist if their mothers had a chance to choose abortion. This type of moron christian leader is super-common taliban-type beast who wants war.
 
 
+24 # R Miller 2012-05-16 09:14
Meet the newest vile species: The Republican Psycho Beelze-bubba. Behavior: political argument is overrun by the truly crazy and evil stuff going on in the attic. Esp. dangerous in mobs. Habitat: Red States. Rarely seen without a toothpick or a weapon of some kind. Avoids high school or college graduates, military service, responsibility for own crazed statements. Source of energy: hate, misinformation and Fox News.
 
 
+12 # Alison 2012-05-16 09:36
We can never be complacent and never stop fighting for freedom. He said "we had to start somewhere" and yes this is back to the begining. Never forget, least we repeat.
 
 
+13 # DorothyK 2012-05-16 11:21
Yet another reason why a rational person wouldn't live in Mississippi OR would move out of that state as soon as they were able.
 
 
+14 # slimslider 2012-05-16 11:52
There you have it folks, ideological morality according to Bubba. I wonder if ol' Bubba ever walked into a penitentiary and looked around. If he did he would see that about 95% of the inhabitants were people who should have never been born. Babies born to crack whore mothers, pimp and meth making papas,and other degenerates guaranteeing that he or she would never be able to live and function in society as a worthwhile contributor. And has Bubba ever thought about the world's "carrying capacity?" We can only produce a certain amount to sustain so much human life. We have several billion too many people on the earth right now. When Bubba's great grand kids are scrambling in the dirt to find bugs and a crust of bread to eat he would do well to think back on the effort he make to save the lives of kids who should have never been born in the first place. Of course Bubba won't be around by then. He will have his fat butt parked in a grave 6 feet under the turmoil and grief that he helped create. Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here.
 
 
+13 # Phlippinout 2012-05-16 12:03
What else do you expect from Mississippi?
 
 
+15 # happycamper690 2012-05-16 12:07
We have become two distinct nations as separate over the dividing social issues as we were before the Civil War on racial issues. I will never set foot again in Mississippi, and I hope all of the Bubba's of the world stay the heck away from California. There is no way we can all live together as long half of the country thinks like Bubba.
 
 
+2 # ghostperson 2012-05-18 22:21
Half the country does not think like Bubba. One-third does. Predominantly, white males who use religion like a club.

80% of women believe that others should stay out of settled issues and that men should back off issues affecting women's privacy. No contraception? Unbelievable.Pe ople without jobs definitely need more mouths to feed.

Bubba should use his coat hanger for his personally-perf ormed prostate exam but then it might perforate his brain.
 
 
+15 # kelly 2012-05-16 12:43
And we call other countries third world!

MS doesn't condemn barbarians, it rewards them by placing them into office. Case in point: this schmuck and Haley Barbour whose infamous pardons last Christmas just led to the conviction of one of the men he set free. Charge? DUI. His 3rd conviction, it would have been his fourth but it was wiped away by Barbour. So he was free to roam and what did he do? He killed an 18-year-old girl.
Let's hear it for MS, the shining example of brilliance and forward thinking.
 
 
+12 # humanmancalvin 2012-05-16 13:17
Of course the MD's providing safe & legal abortions wear masks to help shield their identities. With the number of extreme Radical Right Insurgents waiting & willing to murder these doctors they have every right to conceal their faces. I never could quite understand murdering one person to save another. But then again I am not a Faux Christian who twists & manipulates biblical verse to suit my agenda. These extremists are enemies of the state & should be rounded up & placed in a Gitmo type of facility built to house real terrorists of all stripes.
For the sake of sanity & to give this country the chance to provide equal rights to ALL: Obama/Biden in November. Period.
 
 
+11 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-05-16 13:49
At first I thought this was satire - the name, the body, the bullsh*t. But no.
 
 
+3 # kelly 2012-05-16 14:04
Remember where we're tlking about, KC...
 
 
+8 # Archie1954 2012-05-16 17:30
I'll tell you one thing, you will never hear a Democratic candidate say something as cold, calculating and disgusting as that.
 
 
+5 # Lilredhead1954 2012-05-16 22:21
It really is to bad that this so called human being wasn't aborted. F--k ALL RETHUGS I'm sick of them all.
 
 
+6 # bubbiesue 2012-05-17 06:04
Statistically, the numbers of abortions in the U.S. don't change. They may be legal or illegal, but they remain. It's because nobody needs a license to engage in sex. It happens. People have hormones. The shame is that women remain an underclass when, in fact, I think we're probably smarter than your average male.
 
 
+2 # ghostperson 2012-05-18 22:24
Why do you think that men don't have personal responsibility for contraceptive pills? There is no "probably" about it.
 
 
+6 # humactdoc 2012-05-17 07:21
Such an authoritarian "Bubba" rant does not surprise me. There are 3rd world countries that have better health outcomes than Mississippi. Mississippi is not a fiscally poor state. But state and local governance and businesses set a culture that promotes and maintains poverty and accompanying poor health.
 
 
+4 # barbaratodish 2012-05-17 13:26
If "COAT HANGER" abortions are "fine" why not also allow ceasarian abortions so women can have alternatives?
 

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