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Intro: "The Dual Ridge Metal Boutique tissue boxes sold at Bed, Bath & Beyond stores have been discovered to be radioactive. Made with the extremely dangerous material used to blast cancer tumors with radiation - cobalt-60 - they emit gamma rays that are known to cause both cancer and infertility. They were manufactured in India, shipped on a commercial container to New Jersey, and then distributed to Bed, Bath & Beyond stores in 20 states."

The Dual Ridge Metal Boutique tissue holder. (photo: ABC News)
The Dual Ridge Metal Boutique tissue holder. (photo: ABC News)



Radioactive Tissue Holders Reveal Hypocrisy of Failed National Security

By Mike Adams, Natural News

19 January 12

he Dual Ridge Metal Boutique tissue boxes sold at Bed, Bath & Beyond stores have been discovered to be radioactive. Made with the extremely dangerous material used to blast cancer tumors with radiation - cobalt-60 - they emit gamma rays that are known to cause both cancer and infertility. They were manufactured in India, shipped on a commercial container to New Jersey, and then distributed to Bed, Bath & Beyond stores in 20 states.

How much radiation do these tissue holders emit, exactly? Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokesman David McIntyre said, on the record, that standing near one of these tissue holders for 30 minutes a day would expose you to the equivalent of "a couple of chest X-Rays" each year. The Illinois Emergency Management Agency went even further, issuing a release stating that every 10 hours spent near the product would expose you to the equivalent of one chest X-Ray (http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/9990656-418/no-immediate-threat-of-lo...).

In case you were wondering, a chest X-Ray is not a small dose of radiation.

Ever since Fukushima, the corporate-run media has downplayed the risks of radiation exposure, and now they're claiming that these radioactive products are "no big deal" because they "only" expose you to the equivalent of multiple chest X-Rays each year.

What if a customer has this on their nightstand, near their head, and they're sleeping next to it for 8 hours a night? That means they'd be getting nearly the equivalent radiation of a chest X-Ray each night for 365 nights a year!

How is this not an immediate threat to public health? The corporate-run media has once again dropped the ball on this, downplaying the severity of this discovery by orders of magnitude. "Federal authorities say the tissue holder contains trace amounts of radioactive cobalt but it is not dangerous," reported the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086870/Bed-Bath-Beyond-tissue-ho...).

That's a contradiction. If it contains radioactive cobalt, it is inherently dangerous.

The Conspiracy to Downplay Dangers of Radioactive Products

If cobalt-60 is "not dangerous" as claimed by the corporate-run media, then why is cobalt-60 the exact same radioactive material used in cancer centers to irradiate cancer tumors and burn them to death? Funny how cobalt-60 kills cancer tumors with gamma radiation, but then when it's contaminating household products, government officials pronounce it to be perfectly safe.

Everywhere across government and the media, there is now a conspiracy to downplay risks of radiation in order to protect the nuclear power industry in a time when people are dying every day from Fukushima fallout. Remember: 14,000 Americans have already died from Fukushima radiation (http://www.naturalnews.com/034586_Fukushima_USA_fatalities.html), and in response to that, the EPA raised the allowable level of radiation exposure in America by thousands of times (for some isotopes).

There is also historical evidence that casual exposure to cobalt-60 can be fatal. As reported in Wikipedia:

"In 2000, a disused radiotherapy head containing a cobalt-60 source was stored at an unsecured location in Bangkok, Thailand and then accidentally was sold to scrap collectors. Unaware of the dangers, a junkyard employee dismantled the head and extracted the source, which remained unprotected for a period of days at the junkyard. Ten people, including the scrap collectors and workers at the junkyard, were exposed to high levels of radiation and became ill. Three of the junkyard workers subsequently died as a result of their exposure..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt-60)

But of course, in America, there's "nothing to worry about." Magically, cobalt-60 ceases to be dangerous for your health merely because the lying corporate media tells you so. It's just another example of how the discredited mainstream media tries to twist reality and lie about real dangers to your health and safety while exaggerating public fear about things that aren't genuinely dangerous.

For example, the media has half the population in the U.S. running around scared half to death about "terrorism," which is a purely fictional illusion invented by the government to destroy freedom (http://www.naturalnews.com/034321_war_on_terror_paranoia_hoax.html). But when a real, legitimate health threat comes along like these radioactive consumer products, the government acts like radiation is imaginary. Don't worry about aspartame, mercury or radiation, folks, as those are all imaginary. The REAL threat is all the terrorists hiding in your underwear, didn't you know? (Just ask any TSA agent. They know...)

How Does a Container Full of Radioactive Metal Make Its Way to New Jersey Without Being Detected?

But there's a bigger story in all this, and it's the story the U.S. government doesn't want you to really think about. Despite all the police state tyranny being directed at American citizens, with random ID checkpoints in front of government buildings, the TSA reaching down your pants, and now TSA "VIPER" teams running highway checkpoints, apparently nobody is checking the ports for radioactive materials.

And that means if India, China or some other nation wanted to ship in a 50-ton dirty bomb, they could easily accomplish that. After all, this container of radioactive cobalt-60 made its way to New Jersey without being detected. And nobody was even trying to shield that radiation from detection! Imagine what a group of committed, well-funded terrorists (or even a false-flag government operation) could accomplish. Just load up a container with masses of dirty radioactive materials tied to a conventional bomb, have it shipped to Manhattan, and wait for the timer to go off.

So while Janet Napolitano and her band of criminal TSA thugs are checking your underwear for terrorists, they apparently aren't checking the ports!

And I don't know about you, but I'm willing to bet there's a much greater chance of a bomb being found at a port than in your grandma's underwear. (But don't tell this to the TSA, as they have abandoned all logic and are now run by perverts and morons who are incapable of intelligent thought.)

If You Bought a Radioactive Tissue Holder, You Could Be Prosecuted Under the Patriot Act

Now, at the same time officials all over the country are announcing there is "no immediate threat" from the radioactive tissue boxes, they fail to mention one inconvenient fact: If you possess one of these, you could be arrested as a terrorist!

Yep, the very same radioactive cobalt-60 that they're saying is nothing to worry about could get you arrested and detained as a terrorist in possession of a "weapon of mass destruction." Look it up: The Patriot Act speaks directly about "radiological devices" regardless of whether you intend to use them as weapons. Merely possessing one of these tissue boxes could make you an "enemy of the state."

So what happens if you bought one of these radioactive tissue holders and you try to return it to the store but get stopped by a highway checkpoint running a radiation detector? You could be arrested and prosecuted as a terrorist! Say hello to Gitmo!

Don't think that could happen to you? Think again: Gregg Revell is known as the "accidental traveler." He was flying from Salt Lake City to Allentown, Pennsylvania, and had a firearm legally checked and declared in his luggage. His flight was diverted to New Jersey, where he was forced to deplane and claim his checked luggage. When he tried to check back in the next day to continue his flight, he declared the firearm at the airline check-in, and they called the police. He was then arrested for illegal firearms possession even though he did not intend to land in New Jersey and had no way to avoid doing so. (http://www.ohioverticals.com/blogs/akron_law_cafe/2011/01/revell-v-port-a...)

This is yet another great example of how the police state system criminalizes innocent people who are no threat to society and who have been innocently entrapped in situations that are merely technical violations of the law. Exactly the same is true for people who bought these tissue holders at Bed, Bath & Beyond: Even though they didn't mean to violate the Patriot Act, they have inadvertently done so and can now be arrested, detained, interrogated and even shipped off to Guantanamo Bay while being stripped of all their due process rights. This is thanks to presidents Bush and Obama, both of which have signed laws stripping Americans of their due process rights when they are "believed" to be associated with terrorists.

The joke goes like this:

� What do you call an elderly white woman with a radioactive tissue holder? A Bed, Bath and Beyond customer.

� What do you call a Middle Eastern-looking man with a radioactive tissue holder? A threat to national security, of course!

So what should you do with your radioactive tissue holder from Bed, Bath & Beyond? You're already an accidental criminal for merely possessing it. And if you try to bury it, you'll violate EPA regulations. If you try to return it to the store, you might be arrested at a TSA checkpoint and fondled by mind-numbed TSA goons who are incapable of following rational explanations about anything. If you call the police to come retrieve it, they might accuse you of plotting to build a dirty bomb and could arrest you for possessing weapons of mass destruction in your own home.

Basically, you're screwed. So you're the criminal even though security is so lax at the ports that rogue nations can ship in entire containers full of radioactive material and no one notices. That's how security really works in a police state, by the way: The real threats to the nation are left wide open while the tyranny is turned inward, towards the People, to terrorize and criminalize them!

By the way, Bed, Bath & Beyond has actually given out a phone number to call if you think you may be in possession of one of their radioactive tissue holders: (800) 462-3966.

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+92 # michelle 2011-11-16 20:10
"The week of police crackdown comes amid reports that the federal government and is coordinating with multiple ( I assume states/mayors) on legal strategies that can shut down the Occupy protests."

Not only legal strategies but police violence. It looks like a practice run by a fascists--using the new weapons against the people. I am reminded of Hitler's blitzkreig during the Spanish Civil War. This is a sobering moment for all of regardless of political party. We must truly be a united 99% or we are in for big trouble. I hope it isn't too late to save a democracy.
 
 
+14 # Carolyn 2011-11-17 06:39
Michelle,
It is that. We are waking up -- to change we can count on.
 
 
+11 # minkdumink 2011-11-17 07:56
this democracy died with JFK
 
 
+12 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 09:36
Yes it did. But, even dead democracies can be awakened. herbert hoovers ideas became more powerful in zombie form, long after his death than they were when they caused the Depression and worsened it.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:52
Perhaps to the naysayers it died but I have been fighting for environmentla law for 40 years, winning til now. I have marched for people's rights and winning til the Western Bible Humpers started blowing up 'free' clinics and killing seniors, children and families. Now have a fight to keep anti rape, child abuse on the level of not pointing fingers at one group but at all who do it.
Democracy isn't Dead, Yuppies went Mall and Stuff Crazy, forgot values certainly didn't teach their kids any, too busy on cell phones to care.
Family and their intrinsic needs are all but shot, people have kids as some society gimmick. No clue on how to raise them.

Democracy is just fine, it is picking up other Nations, It is breathing...now a new group has caught its scent. Hopefully they will not be the Mall and Stuff Creatures of the 80's to now.

Democracy needed fresh face, new blood, we let it stagnate in our selfishness to put ourselves first. Democracy didn't vote the creeps in, we do that, our parents did that. Democracy knows who it is, and it can wait. We are the ones who cannot wait because we do not know who we are or what we want. We are the reason the Idiots are Ruling.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 18:00
Thanks for that response.

Maybe Kennedy's murder was the symbolic first shot. After that, the right has been slowly and methodically calculating other ways to finish the hit on the American people. People like you are fighting the good fight. Thank you.

The fact is that demographics are turning away from psychotic conservative "values". The country's true values are taking a hard turn LEFT. This is why the right is digging its heels. It's gonna get a whole lot uglier in the next few years, as it becomes even more apparent that we aren't going away, and their attitudes are going the way of the dinosaurs. They're getting very angry and well armed.

Whether they like it or not, they're still going to lose in the end. It's only a question of how much damage they can do first.
 
 
+9 # Observer 47 2011-11-17 09:59
Yes. It was at that point that the military/CIA took control.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:53
We let them take control. No one can take anything if you do not let them. Cop Out...if you do not start taking responsibility for what you allowed to happen, it will continue to happen.
Grow Up
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 18:01
I agree with the whole comment except, "grow up". We're on the same team.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 19:43
Wow! I never thought a comment like, "We're on the same team" would generate negatives. Maybe what's taking us so long to fight back at the right, is backbiting among ourselves.
 
 
+10 # Adoregon 2011-11-17 13:23
If a picture is worth a thousand words, the image of Dorli Rainey's face dripping with pepper spray indelibly sends the message of how little "our" leaders care about "we the people."

The message from those currently in power and the 1% they serve most certainly is:
eat sh*t and die.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:54
I would like to see who did it, I wonder if he would like his buddies to do the same to his family?
 
 
+1 # minkdumink 2011-11-19 14:29
im reminded of the civil rights crackdowns,I guess they are waiting for a few more blacks before they unleash the dogs on the protestors.
 
 
+89 # pernsey 2011-11-16 20:18
Thank goodness the police had pepper spray against these thugs. An 84 year old woman, a priest and a pregnant women...shame on the police for attacking citizens. How sickening can you get?

GOP stands for Greedy One Percent!!

NEVER EVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
 
 
+23 # Stephanie Remington 2011-11-17 00:39
I haven't heard any prominent Democrats even speak out against any of the violence aimed by police against peaceful protesters, much less do anything to stop it.

Suppression of dissent is completely bi-partisan.
 
 
+1 # Okieangels 2011-11-17 19:38
It darn sure is. Haven't heard a peep from Obama, Pelosi, None of them, not even Kucinich. It's time to vote Green!
 
 
+62 # Activista 2011-11-16 22:32
It is more than depressing. But USA is long down on NAZI path - it will take years to denazify America.
 
 
+20 # John Locke 2011-11-17 08:00
Don't forget the Bush family has close ties to the Nazi's, and HW even had some of them helping with his campaign, Prescott Bush the Grand Father of George, helped to finance Hitler... need any more be said as to why we are now down this path...
 
 
-3 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:55
As long as you all stay on here and do not do anything, yup it will
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 18:02
What do you mean by "staying on here"? Are you refering to using this web site as a soap box?
 
 
+83 # Kayjay 2011-11-16 22:37
I saw the protestors walk by last night. They didn't look very threatening, mainly college age kids, older folks, dogs etc. Clearly the cops are upholding the corporate status quo for a wee bit of overtime pay. We all know the corporate mindset is evil. And I know RSN posts have covered problems with police brutality. But somebody really needs to take these police to court. The department has shown a recent zest for confrontation recently. Dousing that woman should be the last straw. Occupy SPD as well.
 
 
+24 # mwd870 2011-11-17 07:50
Quoting Kayjay:
But somebody really needs to take these police to court. Dousing that woman should be the last straw. Occupy SPD as well.


Multiple lawsuits should happen. I would like to believe the law is still the law and that every person hurt by the police will end up with monetary settlements totaling more than it cost Seattle to employ the military-like forces so necessary to intimidate peaceful protesters.
 
 
-2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:58
Takes money, you sent in today?
 
 
+18 # John Locke 2011-11-17 08:01
Homeland Security ILLEGALLY advised the mayers, their mandate is to protect us from terrorists, I guess the government believes anyone trying to exercise their rights to protest Government corruption are the real terrorists...
 
 
+9 # bkath 2011-11-17 12:09
Have you heard of the PATRIOT Act? It eliminates nearly all of the Bill of Rights. It allows the President to declare anyone a terrorist and subject to being "disappeared". I don't know that the "disappeared" part has actually happened yet, but it's still early.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:59
People disappear daily, always have, not always of their volition.
 
 
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:58
Funny how the foreigners are doing it and held as heroes...we do it and we are bad guys. Typical bs
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 13:57
Under Right to Know Law, Freedom of Information ACT you all have the right to demand seeing the money in and from whom, where it is going as much as any lawyer.
Stop talking and start doing
Are you out occupying? Our area has been doing shifts for weeks so as to not be persecuted or hurt. MMM smart thinking
 
 
-11 # globalcitizen 2011-11-16 22:55
It was the Obama coordination of Homeland Fascist security with police, that attacked all the camps. Time to get over the liberal idiocy, that they are not class elites.
 
 
+12 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 09:34
OWS is a liberal movement. If you think liberals are "idiots", then you disagree with everything OWS stands for.

Obama is not a liberal.

The words we use to argue with are important.
 
 
+22 # DPM 2011-11-16 23:20
Occupy! Occupy everything. Ever heard of Pink's Hot Dogs. Mmmm. They're really good, but they appear in a Bank of America ad, praising that criminal enterprise. Don't eat Pinks. Have Saugies or Vienna's. At least until we find out where they bank. Occupy! Boycott! Every current member of Congress...OUT! Hit the politicians and corporations four times...in the pocket book, in the courts, in the streets and at the polls. Back our talk with action! OCCUPY!
 
 
+12 # readerz 2011-11-16 23:43
Court is now a problem. There is a little-known fact in the U.S. Constitution: "Society" is legally a victim, and a real victim is only a "witness" of a crime, supposedly so that there would be "justice for all:" police and courts paid for by all. But courts (not police) have had vast pay-cuts. YOU CAN'T SUE now in some states. Courts have NO MONEY due to budget cuts, because the U.S. Constitution does not require the Federal, State, or Local governments to pay for them. Interesting that they still pay for police though. Alleged criminals are often held for years because of these budget cuts. So, until this giant legal loophole is closed, forget about suing in a court of law for your rights. This is not the 1960s after all, but a dismantled country, a state of emergency.
 
 
+10 # jwb110 2011-11-17 00:08
This is just the kind of thing that is going to have every 1%er looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives.
 
 
+10 # whalegurl 2011-11-17 00:20
At least they were not using Tasers. I believe Tasers probably really screw up all kinds of chemical and electromagnetic pathways inside the body and brain with long term damage that is hard to trace back.

Sorry about pepper spray.

What about choosing Boycotts of important 1% - like Koch brothers.
 
 
+17 # Patch 2011-11-17 00:35
Since the police and mayors are closing down camps perhaps the Occupiers can switch to eight hour shifts. This would keep people on the spot 24/7 without actually camping. It could also bring in more people who aren't able to camp there but are willing to support the movement. Occupy the World!

When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 14:04
Many places opted for that with workers, parents. It is less stressful,no police action, and we are not getting the Junkies, cop inplants or Corporate snitches. There are many coming to find out what is going on, but that is not a problem. We know the people who are for us so they get more info than the Johny come round. We have no place to take over, no abandoned lots to squat but we have persistance, and good shift control.
We are occupying daily, today bridges in Pa are being taken and thru out USA to protest No Jobs Bill...were you out there it is on Web
 
 
+7 # aitengri 2011-11-17 01:43
The occupy movement is in danger of bogging down with its commitment to full on 24 hour occupancy of "public space". The subtitution of thug police for the real enemy, and the real problems of urine and feces, etc. are keeping the occupy strategists deflected from creative change of tactic. I think that may be the real motive for federal and city connivance in this eviction process. A huge national march on the capitol at this point might be a good shift in tactic, but I'm only "chatter" here.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 14:08
They are changing strategies all over. Many of our areas have no abandoned lots so to speak, no place to take over that wouldnot hurt others working So shift work for months now, it works, it is occupied,
Keeps informants to where you can get to know them for what they are, keeps snitches, junkies, mooches from making bad situation, too much phony health crap.
If you buy food, you can usually use toilets, if you shop. So there are ways to work with businesses, and keep violence out.
But any one sighting Health...look at food left out all day, sometimes refrigerated than brought out for another day...That is a Health Problem so are Buffets so see when the last inspection date is. Use things to your advantage.
Be clean, do not ruin people;s jobs, businesses.
 
 
+10 # daveapostles 2011-11-17 02:46
Have they no sense? To describe their action as random and indiscriminate is a euphemism. Even in a crowd, she must have been fairly obvious.
 
 
+11 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-11-17 04:03
Michael Moore, or as I call him - St. Micahel - gets it. We now have 800,000 govt. operatives, or as I call 'em - 'spooks' here in this country, due to the anything but patriotic, Patriot Act's takeover of everything and everybody via Homeland Security.

Local pols. and upper up cops in every OWS site are being told by the spooks what to do and how to do it re. brutalizing/tor turing of today's OWSers. It's called a fascist police state, it's been well crafted over decades by the greed and power addicted 1%, A pres. named Ike warned us what was coming as he left office.

Liberty and justice for all is now in the toilet, and only a full blown revolution by G.O.Pers, Dems., and sick of politics as usualites is gonna enable us to...UNDO THE EVIL COUP!
 
 
+4 # RLF 2011-11-17 06:36
This pepper spray is being used indiscriminatel y and it needs to be challenged in court. Where is the ACLU...too busy writing friends of the court documents supporting Citizen United?
 
 
+7 # carioca 2011-11-17 06:52
It will take DECADES to denazify Amerika, Activista.
 
 
-2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 14:10
It takes as long as you want it to...Are you marching, occupying, petitioning..if not than you are part of problem not solution
Change comes with determination, start now
Otherwise it is another CopOut
 
 
+16 # phrixus 2011-11-17 07:20
I find it ironic that "law enforcement" is pepper-spraying little old ladies and otherwise clubbing, beating and electrocuting protesters while monsters like Bush, Cheney and others whom have admitted sponsoring torture in violation of numerous international and domestic laws suffer no justice.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 14:11
Too bad none of these creeps and their families are out, perhaps the cops have sensors on them and know where these people are spending your money
 
 
+10 # SouthBrun 2011-11-17 07:23
Anger rises like bile in my throat at such police brutality. Tears of anger mist my eyes. Yet, we grow stronger. The tide is turning.
 
 
+16 # Kneebiter1 2011-11-17 08:39
I am curious to know WHERE are these governments finding the money to pay for (and replace) the sound cannons, pepper spray, tear gas and other war weapons they *MUST* use against the citizens, when they simultaneously *can't* find money for other ordinary government functions (like snowplows, pothole filling and bridge repair.)
 
 
+9 # tuandon 2011-11-17 08:43
Why would the police worry about pepper-spraying an 84-year-old woman? Or a pregnant woman, or a priest? They (the police) are merely puppets of the 1%.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-11-17 14:13
One of these days it will be their family.
I am under the impression that only occupiers are in the cities...no one else does business in these cities? Perhaps some Occupy Malls would be the next point of travel, let's see who starts getting sprayed there.
 
 
+14 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 08:50
Conservatives,

Is this another example of how OWS aren't the same law-abiding citizens as the well-armed militias at tee-off-party gatherings? What threat was an 84 year old woman posing to the police.

In reality, she poses A MAJOR threat to your 1%. She represents the fact that it really is 99% of US against YOU.

You may be winning the arms race and winning the armed vs. unarmed conflicts with police-whores, but you LOSING where it counts. You're losing in the eyes of the voting public.

This is only the beginning. How many of you do you think will fit on that privately owned and operated spaceship to the off-world colonies you're all praying for? Don't expect a "rapture" to save you either. If anyone is damned, it's you.

Nope, you're stuck down here on THIS planet, and in THIS country with US - the REAL AMERICANS.

This is only the beginning.
 
 
+14 # feloneouscat 2011-11-17 08:55
So an 84 year old woman is so much of a threat that the police felt need to pepper spray her?

One has to seriously ask who are the police protecting?
 
 
+15 # rmatonti2 2011-11-17 09:15
The policeman that pepper sprayed this 84 year old woman needs to be charged with attempted murder and incarcerated for at least 10 years as a lesson to all those that would hurt innocent elderly citizens and showing that police are not exempt. Veterabs and retired police need to make citizens arrests on these police.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 13:46
Amen! But, it wasn't probably just one cop doing it.
 
 
+10 # mikid54 2011-11-17 09:35
Thanks, Pernsey -- loved your
"GOP stands for Greedy One Percent"!!

The cop who pepper-sprayed that 84-year-old woman ought to go talk to his own Mom and try to explain to her why he did such an atrocious thing!
 
 
+2 # Kootenay Coyote 2011-11-17 09:55
Exodus 20/12.
 
 
+9 # Capn Canard 2011-11-17 10:46
on a positive note, this is a sign of how far off base the 1% is! It is also a sign of how quick they are to use force to intimidate us into submission.

RESIST, ASSIMILATION TO FASCISM IS FUTILE.
 
 
+7 # euwe 2011-11-17 12:39
Democracy is feared as much as Communism
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2011-11-17 13:46
By the very same people. Just ask a libertarian what he thinks of democracy.
 
 
+3 # foxglove16 2011-11-18 09:40
First, it's not pepper spray, it's pepper hoses. It's not something a woman would carry in her purse, it's a wide swath of chemical irritant.

Next, when Bloomburg said (I paraphrase) "If people get violent, they will be arrested", my first thought was "so they will be arresting the police?"
 
 
+1 # waprog2 2011-11-18 16:55
I have know Dorli for many years. She is only 4'10" tall, and worked hard to elect our mayor. BUT, the Seattle p0lice acted according to standard practice in Seattle.
When they discovered the group was about to leaver, they surrounded them, and used bicycles, not the usual horses, and pushed the crowd close together, then they opened the hoses on the big canisters of pepper gas (CS gas)on the crowd.
They then held down the pregnant woman for over a minute to spray her in the face. This is considered normal by the SPD. We are lucky no one was badly beaten, or shot.
 
 
+2 # waprog2 2011-11-18 16:59
PS, to cop the murdered the woodcarver in Seattle was never charged, so how can we bring any of them to justice?
BTW, Dorli is 3rd party, not a Democrat.
The Majority of office holders in Washington are Democrats--not Republicans.
Vote 3rd party.
 

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