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Bill Moyers: "A new study in the journal Health Affairs finds that Medicare beneficiaries age 65 and older are more satisfied with their health insurance, have better access to care, and are less likely to have problems paying medical bills than working-age adults who get insurance through employers or purchase coverage on their own."

Bill Moyers (right) with President Lyndon Johnson during the fight for Medicare. (photo: PBS)
Bill Moyers (right) with President Lyndon Johnson during the fight for Medicare. (photo: PBS)



Everyone Should Be Entitled to Medicare

By Bill Moyers, Moyers & Company

04 Aug 12

 

 

ILL MOYERS: I read a news story this week that sent me on a nostalgic trip down memory lane. This past Monday, July 30th was the 47th anniversary of Medicare, and to celebrate it, the "Raging Grannies," as they’re known, gathered outside the county office building in Rochester, New York to protest rumored cuts to their Medicare coverage.

RAGING GRANNIES: This old grey granny now needs a test or two -

BILL MOYERS: They praised Medicare in song as "the best deal we have in the country," and even called for expanding it Medicare into universal health care for everyone.

It seems the Republican Speaker of the House, John Boehner, was coming up from Washington to raise funds for Republican congressional candidate Maggie Brooks. The "Raging Grannies" wanted to make certain Ms. Brooks didn’t sign on to the GOP budget which includes cuts to Medicare.

For myself, the "Raging Grannies" channeled a familiar voice, the Texas twang of my boss back in 1965, Lyndon Baines Johnson. I was a White House assistant at the time and had been working with the President and others on the team trying to get Medicare through Congress. Even with overwhelming Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, it was one tough fight. Others had tried before us.

In his 1948 State of the Union message, President Harry Truman said:

HARRY TRUMAN: This great Nation cannot afford to allow its citizens to suffer needlessly from the lack of proper medical care. Our ultimate aim must be a comprehensive insurance system to protect all our people equally against insecurity and ill health.

BILL MOYERS: But every time Harry Truman proposed legislation to do just that, Congress refused to budge. In the 1960s, John F. Kennedy took up the cause:

JOHN F. KENNEDY: Our working men and women, instead of being forced to ask for help from public charity, once they are old and ill, should start contributing now to their own retirement health program through the Social Security System…

BILL MOYERS: But his proposal failed in the Senate by just two votes.

On the other side, actor Ronald Reagan, still in private life, had signed on as the American Medical Association’s hired spokesman in their campaign against Medicare. Doctors’ wives organized thousands of small meetings in homes around the country, where guests listened to a phonograph record of Reagan deploring the evils of "socialized medicine":

RONALD REAGAN: Behind it will come other Federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country […] until one day, as Norman Thomas said […] you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.

BILL MOYERS: But now, it was Lyndon Johnson’s turn. Tragically thrust into the White House by Kennedy’s assassination, LBJ, the son of Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal and Harry Truman’s Fair Deal, vowed to finish what they had started. He pushed us relentlessly to get it done. Here he is talking to his Vice President, Hubert Humphrey, in early March of 1965:

LYNDON JOHNSON: They are bogged down. The House had nothing this week, all -damn week. Now that’s where you and Moyers and Larry O’Brien have got to find something for them. And the Senate had nothing […] so we just wasted three weeks […] Now we are here in the first week in March, and we have just got to get these things passed […] I want that program carried. And I’ll put every Cabinet officer behind you. I’ll put every banker behind you. I’ll put every organization we got behind you […] I’ll put the labor unions behind you."

BILL MOYERS: About all he had left was the White House kitchen sink, and pretty soon he threw that behind us, too.

Later that March he called me to talk about a retroactive increase in Social Security payments that we were supporting. I had argued for it as a stimulus to the economy. LBJ said okay, but reminded me that social security and Medicare were about a lot more than economics:

LYNDON JOHNSON: My inclination would be […] that it ought to be retroactive as far back as you can get it […] because none of them ever get enough. That they are entitled to it. That that's an obligation of ours. It's just like your mother writing you and saying she wants $20, and I'd always sent mine a $100 when she did. I never did it because I thought it was going to be good for the economy of Austin. I always did it because I thought she was entitled to it. And I think that's a much better reason and a much better cause and I think it can be defended on a hell of a lot better basis […] We do know that it affects the economy […] But that's not the basis to go to the Hill, or the justification. We've just got to say that by God you can't treat grandma this way. She's entitled to it and we promised it to her.

BILL MOYERS: LBJ kept that promise. He pushed and drove and cajoled and traded, until Congress finally said yes. And so it was that 47 years ago, we traveled to Independence, Missouri, the hometown of Harry Truman, and there with the former president at his side, LBJ signed Medicare into law. Turning to Truman, whom he called "the real daddy of Medicare, " Johnson signed him up as its first beneficiary. Harry Truman was 81.

All this was high drama, touched with history, sentimentality, politics, and compromise. A whole lot of compromise. The bill wasn’t all LBJ wanted. It was, in fact, deeply flawed. There were too few cost controls, as some principled conservatives warned, who were then rudely ignored. Co-pays and deductibles remain a problem. And we didn’t anticipate the impact of new technology, or the impact of a burgeoning population.

In fact, even as he signed the bill we still weren’t sure what all was in it. As LBJ himself once told me, never watch hogs slaughtered before breakfast and never, never, never show young children how legislation gets enacted.

But Lyndon Johnson had warned: "We will face a new challenge and that will be what to do within our economy to adjust ourselves to a life span and a work span for the average man or woman of 100 years."

That longevity, and the cost, are what we must now reckon with. As the historian Robert Dallek has written, Medicare and Medicaid, the similar program for the very poor, "…did not solve the problem of care at reasonable cost for all Americans", but "the benefits to the elderly and the indigent…are indisputable." And there’s no going back, current efforts notwithstanding. A new study in the journal Health Affairs finds that Medicare beneficiaries age 65 and older are more satisfied with their health insurance, have better access to care, and are less likely to have problems paying medical bills than working-age adults who get insurance through employers or purchase coverage on their own.

So sing on, Raging Grannies, sing on. The surest way to save so popular and efficient a health care system is to make it available to everyone.

RAGING GRANNIES: Everybody in and nobody out, single-payer Medicare for all.

 

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+111 # NanFan 2012-08-04 11:32
Best line from Johnson: "We've just got to say that by God you can't treat grandma this way. She's entitled to it and we promised it to her." And to take it up to today, "By God you can't treat human beings this way!"

Rage on, everyone. We're all required to pay into Medicare and now they want to take it away from us instead of trying to figure out how to make it available to all in this failing economy.

Republicans must be put out to pasture, if that's the way they want to roll. Everything they do is against you and me, the common everyday American who just wants to be healthy enough to contribute to building a better World for ourselves and our children and grandchildren.

Medicare for all would be the best legacy we could leave them with.

Thanks.

N.
 
 
+78 # jlohman 2012-08-04 11:34
Look, there is one thing and one thing alone that is blocking Medicare-for-al l, and that is cash bribes to the politicians from the insurance industry. Only two things will change that, either public funding of campaigns *OR* getting the business community convinced that this should be a taxpayer-paid system of health care, and not a business-paid system. It is a jobs bill like no others. Then the business community must join the war and send more cash than the other guys. (Sorry, when you have a corrupt political system, only cash will work!)

Update: Sorry, a third thing will fix it: put all politicians on Medicaid! Take away their golden policy!!!
 
 
+7 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-08-06 08:33
jlohman, you are correct about getting businesses on board which should be a simple thing to do if the Democrats in Washington D.C. were not so inept or bought off by the insurance industry like the Republican'ts! First, one must point out how much money they would save by not being forced to pay around 60% of each employee's premium. This would make their costs go down to enable them to compete against low wage countries and Western countries that already provide universal coverage. Second, they would need a much smaller HR staff to deal with the insurance companies. By the same token, doctors should be for single-payer for the same reason. My doctor told me recently that there are 16 doctors in the medical group he belongs to, but there 106 well paid clerks who deal with a bunch of different insurance companies and even more different policies. Sixteen doctors must charge enough to pay 106 and pay themselves to boot! Third, convince businesses and individuals that if tax money was no longer wasted wholesale at the defense department there would be plenty of money to protect American lives with health care! If taxes did have to go up it would be after profits had risen and much less than what they were paying in premiums! This savings would give consumers more money to spend on stuff that would help the economy and reduce federal and state budget deficits! Finally, the hard one - get people over the notion that Socialism is bad.
 
 
+71 # Robert Cohen 2012-08-04 11:52
The sure way to get universal health and break the logjam of pressing, unresolved national problems is to urgently unite behind an initiative to force the money-givers out of politics and end the legalized corruption of our national leaders.

The proposed first step to achieve that objective is to file multiple class-action lawsuits seeking to reverse two absurd Supreme Court decisions: Santa Clara ("corporations are persons"), and Buckley ("money is speech"). Success will require one of the five conservative Justices to again step forward and go down in history as a true American patriot, as did Chief Justice Roberts recently in upholding Obamneycare.

As the cases advance toward the Supreme Court, widening public awareness of them will propel a tsunami of public pressure, outcry, and support from the over 80% of American citizenry who are disgusted with the legalized corruption of our politicians by the obscene amounts of money-in-politi cs. Past Supreme Courts have been responsive to public opinion.

Once those decisions are reversed, the liberated Congress would be enabled to enact legislation in the public interest, such as to provide for public financing of elections, free airtime for candidates, universal health care, raising needed revenue from those who can best afford to provide it, and exerting world leadership in preventing and mitigating global warming.

You can e-mail me via the Web site at my RSN Profile Page.
 
 
+25 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-08-04 12:52
One well-known commentator once said, "the best speech is the shortest." So, I've read your missive and here is my speech to you:"great!"
 
 
+1 # spenel334 2012-08-07 19:29
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Great letter,Robert Cohen, finally with a solution rather than just name caling, albeit with well-earned names. It is scary to think we have to rely on the Supreme Court judges,but then the idea of class-action lawsuits provides a superb path to educate the public on what is really happening all around us.

What would the lawsuits be, and how does one work toward initiating them?

spenel334
 
 
+67 # Stafft 2012-08-04 12:05
What I could never understand is why Americans would not want to pay a premium for a government-run system, but didn't mind paying thousands of dollars a year to some HMO. And there are those who could not afford health care. Would they be left to die on the street? Crazy world we live in.
 
 
+26 # mdhome 2012-08-04 14:08
It involves bribes to politicians and the same politicians having a golden parachute so they don't need or care about how it happens for the rest of us. Also depends on 50% of us are dumber than average and they get out and vote more often.
 
 
+10 # jlohman 2012-08-05 05:12
Yes, if you want to fix the system put the politicians on Medicaid.
 
 
+17 # FLAK88 2012-08-04 15:54
Actually, crazy country. Dumbest sods in the industrialized world; when you get right down to it.
 
 
+23 # jlohman 2012-08-04 16:33
Our politicians are NOT dumb. Corrupt, yes, but they know exactly what they're doing.
 
 
+48 # angelfish 2012-08-04 12:59
Congress needs to have THEIR Health Care Benefits be as difficult to get and maintain as the rest of us! WHY should they get Medical Care for LIFE, as well as Salary for LIFE? NO ONE that I know of, other than Politicians get those kind of benefits, unless of course, their CEOs of some Corporation! Let's see how fast Medicare becomes UNIVERSAL when Congress has to fight as hard for THEIR Health Care as the rest of us do!
 
 
+20 # Hey There 2012-08-04 16:53
Members of Congress under FERS contribute 1.3 percent of their salary into the FERS retirement plan and pay 6.2 percent of their salary in Social Security taxes.

Members of Congress are eligible for a pension when 50, IF they've completed 20 years of service. Members are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach the age of 62. Please note: Members of Congress MUST serve at least 5 years to receive a pension.

The congressperson' s pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of his/ her salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member's retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972. A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006.

So medical care and salary is under the same rules of other federal employees.

An example: I pay Almost 6,012.00 a year for 2 while the USPS pays $10,773.00. The health insurance makes a goodly sum and it IS a struggle to pay my share of health insurance which is pushing for me to get Medicare as well. I say MEDICARE for all. C
 
 
+2 # 8myveggies 2012-08-04 19:28
Isn't the USPS about to default on health benefits?
 
 
+16 # angelfish 2012-08-04 20:16
Quoting 8myveggies:
Isn't the USPS about to default on health benefits?

Only because of some bizarre and idiotic stipulation that the USPS pay FORWARD Millions of dollars to cover foreseeable Pensions(?). This is madness and almost insures that they will go broke. No other Federal Agency has that kind of onerous mandate....? I may have that wrong but it's something similar...Anybo dy?
 
 
+15 # doneasley 2012-08-05 07:13
Quoting angelfish:
Quoting 8myveggies:
Isn't the USPS about to default on health benefits?

Only because of some bizarre and idiotic stipulation that the USPS pay FORWARD Millions of dollars to cover foreseeable Pensions(?). This is madness and almost insures that they will go broke... I may have that wrong but it's something similar...Anybody?


You're right, Angelfish. The whole idea is to make the USPS look like it's broke. So now the GOP can start calling for postal layoffs and office closures. Why? The postal union is the government's largest, and ever since Reagan and the air traffic controllers union, the GOP has been trying to get rid of all public unions. You can bet that when Republicans pay attention to a gov't function, the ultimate goal is to destroy it. Part D Medicare and No Child's Behind Left are just 2 examples.
 
 
+3 # Hey There 2012-08-05 19:44
In 2006 Congress passed and Bush signed the PAEA(HR6407) that mandated that the USPS fund 75 years of retiree health benefits in 10 years at 5.5 Billion a year. This decreased the federal deficit but added a cost having nothing to do with mail service and opened the Post Office to accusations that it wasn't solvent because it had 100,000 workers too many,that workers were overpaid as well as those injured at work. In addition that there were too many post offices and distribution centers and many of them need to go despite the decrease in service to the public.
So those who want to change the Post Office that provides service at cost to a business model neglect to mention before HR6407 was passed in 2006 the Post Office was able to pay mail processing and delivery costs with it's revenue. It wasn't defaulting on anything.
The following videos i made for You Tube explain this. To view just copy the link and paste in the Google search window.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ybkkiH2Ho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am4wez1ShPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsPIY9bFFZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chx0j3_8IU
 
 
+2 # waldemar 2012-08-07 10:04
@ Hey There -- my recollection is that Bush put the CEO of either UPS or FedEx on whatever Postal Committee recommends & proposes the regulations that Congress is asked to adopt (usually a rubber stamp), which explains what corporate self-interest was at work when the absurd health benefits funding requirements were adopted in 2006. No other business is required to, or could, meet such a standard.

I think everyone knows this excessive benefit funding requirement is what's causing the PO to look like it's insolvent, so I want to know what congressperson (or group -- as in the Postal regulating committee mentioned above) is preventing the fix, & who's in their pocket....
 
 
+11 # feloneouscat 2012-08-06 10:40
I live in the country. As in rural America. My post office is tiny. It was built as part of the WPA.

If they shut this Post Office down, where will I get my mail? UPS couldn't find us if I painted a red X on the dirt road. FEDEX dropped a package labeled TO FRONT DOOR half mile down the road. Only the Post Office knows where we are. I trust them.

So how does shutting down the Post Office make America BETTER? It doesn't.

This is one more of the Republicans stupid ideas.

The Republicans already want to make our water dirtier, our food dirtier, our air dirtier - if ignorance is bliss, these guys are blissing out!
 
 
+47 # Glen 2012-08-04 13:03
Only in the U.S., the pinnacle of freedom and wealth and justice, are we having this discussion. Other civilized societies have already determined the course of the health and welfare of their citizens. And it is decades behind them.
 
 
+21 # doneasley 2012-08-04 20:04
Quoting Glen:
Only in the U.S., the pinnacle of freedom and wealth and justice, are we having this discussion. Other civilized societies have already determined the course of the health and welfare of their citizens...


One of the Rmoney empty-headed gaffes while he was in Israel was to praise their health care system - saying that their system uses only 8% of GDP while ours absorbs 18% of GDP. I don't think he realizes yet that he was praising public health care. Of course no one in our media took him to task for it. Just as private insurance companies are not needed for student loans, they are certainly not needed in health care. Something's wrong when one man (McGuire at United Health Care) takes home $1.7 BILLION in compensation, and the industry's executive-to-wo rker pay is the highest of all industries.
 
 
+46 # stonecutter 2012-08-04 13:20
Take a look at the hit summer show on USA, "Royal Pains". A "concierge" doc shows up at the seaside Hamptons mansions of very rich patients to dispense hands-on medical care at home. I used to get that from our family doc back in 1955, when I was a kid living in a city housing project. Things have changed a bit.

I'd bet a bundle Willard and Ann have their very own concierge doctor on retainer, along with VIP access to the Mayo Clinic. All 535 members of Congress have the best employer-sponso red health care on the planet. The Obamas have the best coverage money can buy. Gainfully employed citizens with a health insurance benefit can pick their own doc and/or plan in the city or the suburbs; I was fortunate to have that kind of ample coverage of my family for many years, including 18 months of very expensive extended coverage under COBRA when I was laid off from my last job, before I retired. But what about the 50 million Americans without any insurance, now? What about my 23 year old college grad son, who was covered by me from birth to 18, then at college for 4 years (on his parent's dime), then by my ex-wife under her plan, but now not at all because she and I went onto Medicare, can no longer cover him as a dependent, and he can't find a decent job, let alone one with health benefits, or afford his own individual coverage? A pox on every member of Congress until this mess is fixed. Universal health care!
 
 
+28 # mdhome 2012-08-04 14:12
You were very lucky, many did not get that kind of coverage and I doubt many will again unless we get single payer, coverage for all.
 
 
+50 # Gord84 2012-08-04 13:38
I have lived in both Canada and the US - health care in Canada is like living in heaven compared to the US!
 
 
+6 # Hey There 2012-08-04 16:55
AMEN!
 
 
+15 # reiverpacific 2012-08-04 19:07
Quoting Gord84:
I have lived in both Canada and the US - health care in Canada is like living in heaven compared to the US!

Absolutely -and any other country with a smidgeon of social consciousness remaining which the US has NEVER had for the most part (I'm Scottish).
But try telling that to those in the corridors of power who, not content with the kind of salaries most Americans will never even come close to and get the kind of health care that their constituents, or their employers, will never be able to afford but who also have their pockets so heavily lined with corporate lobbyist lucre, it's a wonder that the can keep their pants (or panty hose) from bulging and falling to the ground!
We are the sacrificial lambs on the power-bloodied altars to themselves and their masters of war, profit, greed and pollution.
 
 
+46 # Human Right 2012-08-04 13:39
The USA is the only industrialized country on the planet without a health insurance plan for its citizens. Single payer health care is long overdo in the USA. The insurance cartel will not allow congress to enact single payer health care and the insurance cartel has more power than the people of the USA and that is the reason there is no "single payer" health program.
 
 
+13 # Regina 2012-08-04 19:48
In any other context this would be extortion, and criminal.
 
 
+43 # erogers 2012-08-04 13:55
I often asked myself why the hell members of Congress kept declaring any proposal for Universal Health care dead on arrival. I am dumbfounded when I see an elderly Tea Party wack job carrying a sign reading "government out of my health care". Who the hell do elderly Tea Party wack jobs think provides their health coverage. The easiest and most affordable approach to health care for all is via an expansion of Medicare. Anyone with a grain of moral fiber would push for this approach. But our health care industry seems to be constipated with greed and refuses to eat any fiber. Someday our nation will wake up but we must first have politicians with the courage to do what is right. Per usual, a superb piece by Moyers.
 
 
+5 # feloneouscat 2012-08-06 10:44
First thing those Tea Party whack jobs wanted to know when they got in Congress was "when do I get health care?"... Oh, you mean that GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE?!

Good for them, bad for us.
 
 
+10 # John Steinsvold 2012-08-04 14:02
An Alternative to capitalism (If the people knew about it, they would demand it)

Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.

I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:


http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

John Steinsvold

Perhaps in time the so-called dark ages will be thought of as including our own.
--Georg C. Lichtenberg
 
 
+34 # Vardoz 2012-08-04 14:09
Well we pay all of our reps for their triple A health care and pensions for life but I guess they don't think we deserve the same. They should have long, healthy lives and we are denied that opportunity. They are SOB's all of them. Hopefully VT will obtain the single payer options and Bernie Sanders, the only reps I know of, is fighting for that in his state. Of course we should have Medicare for all! And the money is there but greed and corruption are preventing it like everything else that is hurting the American people.
 
 
+41 # MHS 2012-08-04 14:15
One of the benefits of having everyone in Medicare is that when you bring younger people in, Medicare gets on a stronger actuarial footing. Further, by bringing the younger ones in now, health care at an earlier age will reduce costs at a later age, and the actual costs will go down. Makes sense, but then it cuts out the profits for the private insurers.
 
 
+17 # Skeptical1247 2012-08-04 15:07
THis truly is one of the most important battles to win, exceeded only by a concerted effort to create an alternative to the Tea Party, who showed us nicely that a large crowd of totally ignorant bigots financed by billionaire bigots can change the completion of a nation's political system in LESS THAN TWO YEARS. If they can do it, WE can do it. Please work to create a viable Pragmatic Progressive Reform Party, starting this minute. Because we probably won't get to Medicare for All, or successfully address any other pressing problem of the 99%, UNTIL Congress itself is reformed by replacing as many incumbents of both Parties as we possibly can in 2014 and 2016. A big part of the problem is that the Dems & Repubs control the "public conversation" and the pool of campaign funds, and that domination needs to be broken.
 
 
+12 # cafetomo 2012-08-04 15:47
I find it interesting that Ronnie expounded upon the theme of "freedom", while removing that very thing from us. A well worn tactic to this very day. Those who govern of course, already have the gold standard in health care. It seems easier to declare it unaffordable to others, when it has already been afforded to you. Any federal employee for that matter, does not have to so much as ask approval for a scan or incrementally justify the necessity of a procedure to some medically ignorant bean counter, given the standard of care automatically afforded them. If you ever had to battle chemo and the insurance company at the same time, you would know that there are times when this particularly matters. I have known more than a few to have lost this battle. It can result in the delays and denials of an all too typical, painful, unnecessary and far too frequent death from bureaucracy.
 
 
+16 # 8myveggies 2012-08-04 19:58
My mother was hospitalized with a particularly painful cancer in it's later stage. While her doctor was waiting for a medication to arrive (and thus was not actively treating her, per her HMO) she awoke from a nap to find an envelope that a bean counter had left on her pillow. "Be out of the hospital by 3:00 or all charges after that time will not be covered."

It upsets me to no end when I hear people bring up the "death panels" argument against universal coverage. We already have death panels but we call them insurance companies. BTW, my mom was denied a bone marrow transplant because, at 55, she was "too old".
 
 
+20 # reiverpacific 2012-08-04 16:43
The only problem with Medicare is that it doesn't go far enough.
It doesn't cover Dental at all, which is a problem most people will face when they get older, nor vision ditto, and it only pays 80% of hospital and physician costs which can amount to quite a bit if you are admitted to hospital or a mental institution that even accepts Medicare for any amount of time, especially if S.S. is the main or only source of income -and if you want Part B (Doctor visits) or Part C (RX) quite a bit is deducted from the S.S. monthly amount.
And all the other little add-ons are still a gift to big insurance and pharma' (and AARP), which they are never done pestering you with when you approach or pass Medicare age.
This is why I've never become a citizen and plan to return to Europe a.s.a.p. before I'm too much older.
And then you've got the Tea-Bastard ignoramuses who bolster the GOP's mean-spirited attempts to reduce or cut alltogether what's left, as in "Keep the government's hands off my medicare!!!" -And I quote.
Again, "Only in America" where the Military-Indust rial-Prison complex can get all it wants to kill, maim and pollute the planet and the wealthy receive munificent breaks even unto zero taxation, but where the power-soaked-an d lobbyist-bought seem scared to death that the average citizen or resident gets even a tithe more than the bare minimum WHICH THY'VE BEEN PAYING FOR all their working lives.
A Death Culture indeed!
 
 
+15 # bayern 2012-08-04 17:32
When President Truman (and those that followed) tried to get universal health care, the medical and health insurance industries called it socialized medicine. Conservatives continue to use that term today because they know that it still frightens us. When average Americans start voting progressively instead of fearfully, things will change. Until then, we will have freedom from government bureaucrats, but not from private insurance bureaucrats.
 
 
+7 # feloneouscat 2012-08-06 10:49
My response is if "socialized medicine" is scary, then why do we have it in the Armed Forces? Why do we our leaders benefit from it? If it is so good for them, why is it so bad for us?

I'm tired of being treated like a child. Conservatives do NOT "know" what's good for us. They just know what's good for them and their lobbyists.

Perhaps if they paid more attention to the American people and less to the insurance companies, they'd actually get some work done.
 
 
+6 # dick 2012-08-04 18:49
Let's ALL NEVER forget that Obama took even experimental broadened access to Medicare off the table without a fight.
Even if he had to eventually back down, the public debate could have changed our POLITICAL CULTURE. Gutless Obama wildly under uses his greatest asset: he is a fabulous explainer. But only if he's had a green light from corporate sponsors to speak. He has to raise his hand & beg PERMISSION. Tragedy.
 
 
+13 # michellewey 2012-08-04 19:53
The ethical void that plagues those who have amassed disproportionat e wealth in our society has reached critical mass and is dooming us all. Whatever happened to the concept of Campaign Finance Reform? What magic media dust removed it from the political discourse some time shortly before we were hoodwinked with Citizens United? I have long thought that capitalism is inherently incapable as the system by which to provide healthcare. It does not take care of its people. The laws that we have to waste our energy fighting to pass: coverage for people with pre existing conditions, not being dropped from coverage once you get sick, insurance companies required to use the money paid by the insured for their care and not for marketing and sales purposes... to name a few of the most egregious offenses... and we spend time and money fighting to not be denied these basic rights that we are paying top dollar for. It is totally absurd. As others have pointed out here, until money cannot buy campaigns and their candidates, we will see no end to the flagrant corruption of our capitalist system.
 
 
+2 # brux 2012-08-05 10:07
well said, i just hope that most or at least some of us live long enough to be able to die secure in the knowledge that the US is not going turn into the biggest immortal meanest most inhuman totalitarian regime ever conceived in inhumanity that ever was or will be. this way of life needs to change for all humanity and for the earth as well.
 
 
+14 # 8myveggies 2012-08-04 20:14
The following is from David DeGraw's "The Economic Elite vs. the People of the United States".

We currently have over 50 million US citizens without healthcare. 1.4 million Americans filed for bankruptcy in 2009, a 32% increase from 2008. As bankruptcies continue to skyrocket, medical bankruptcies are responsible for over 60% of them, and over 75% of the medical bankruptcies filed are from people who have healthcare insurance. We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world, we are forced to pay twice as much as other countries and the overall care we get in return ranks 37th in the world.
 
 
+12 # vgirl1 2012-08-05 03:50
Republicans have gotten the idea of the social safety net wrong since the beginning. Indeed there was probably no better perpetrator of the "every man for himself" ideolgy than Ronald Reagan. Republicans say they revere him, though they have moved even more socially to the right of him than ever and never has the Republican party been more selfish than it is today. Reagan's era was truly the beginning of the loss of concern for the national well being of individual Amerian citizens.
 
 
+7 # brux 2012-08-05 10:04
It is clear now looking back at Reagan's career that he was a hired hack, put in place because of his grandfatherly big brother kind of image and homespun talk - and mental problems.

Now I always recall that famous clip of him being hurried along by Merrill-Lynch's Donald Regan at the opening of the stock exchange like a dumb cow. I really disliked Reagan as President. He should have stuck to being an actor, but even there he had to rat our his fellow actors for political power.
 
 
+5 # vgirl1 2012-08-05 03:53
What the GOPWOT(GOP Waste Our Time)needs to do is repeal their healthcare. Then we will know they are really invested in their drive to cut government spending and eliminate waste.
 
 
+2 # feloneouscat 2012-08-06 10:54
There was an amendment made to one of the 33 attempts to kill the ACA - which said essentially that. If they killed the ACA then they would give up their healthcare.

The amendment was killed by Republicans. What's good for them is apparently bad for us...
 
 
+10 # walt 2012-08-05 04:26
Would that Mr. Obama got as much behind health care reform as did LBJ. He definitely got some good things into place, but, we still need better, mainly a national health plan for all as other civilized nations have.

Interesting to note the comments made by Ronnie Reagan. One has to wonder how he is considered a hero in the GOP. One also has to wonder how any American could support a Republican for any office based on their shameless attacks on the rights of citizens. They still bear the banners for the 1% and not the people of America.

Let's carry on the fight for "Medicare for All." Americans deserve better.
 
 
+4 # brux 2012-08-05 10:01
yeah, it's clear obama did not have much of a clue as to how to do that - he basically thought as president all he has to do is make a speech telling congress to do it.

obama has the right ideas, he is just not as capable or a strong a worker as LBJ was.
 
 
0 # michellewey 2012-08-08 19:45
Actually, it should be "Medicaid for all" because dental should be covered too. How many presidents before Obama talked about healthcare reform without every managing to deliver it? It is monumental that Obama was able to get any kind of healthcare reform passed dealing with extremist Republicans hell bent on his failure to mention only the most obvious opposition that needed to be overcome. I can only imagine what kind of hugely compromising promises and sell outs Obama had to make to get that very watered down version of what he really wanted, passed. Just thinking about it makes me cringe. I am sure much of what he has done since that has deeply alienated progressive voters is not unrelated to the high stakes trade-offs made in a profoundly corrupt government. I for one, think it was worth it. I hope this health care bill will prove to be the first step to more much needed reform.
 
 
+9 # brux 2012-08-05 09:53
Good to be reminded just how disgusting and what a whore Ronald Reagan really was.
 
 
+3 # brux 2012-08-05 09:59
LBJ was a pretty damn good president, so one has to wonder how his conception of what Viet Nam was about got to be such a mess. Poor guy, perhaps he sold out to the Military Industrial Complex to get his social programs, and now they aim to remove it all so we can have a big totalitarian state run by the same kind of criminals that run China, Russia, Iran, etc.

And this business of drbbling out his papers even to today - keeping the real truth from Americans that has now become the way we do business is really cheating all of us. We all deserve to know what is going on.
 
 
0 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-06 08:38
LBJ was a political coward and became a war criminal, because he feared the right-wing in the Congress.

He sacrificed his domestic goals, his "Great Society" to pay for the killing of, ultimately, millions of Asians. He was a promising president (most are!) but turned into a bloody murderer.
 
 
+1 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-06 20:24
He didn't sell out to the MIC to get his social programs. He pushed his social programs to prevent embarrassing civil unrest in the US that undermined the image of the US abroad.

The idea that public knowledge of what is going on would change anything is an idea that belongs to a lost, highly flawed democracy. The latter no longer exists. Johnson's Asian War ended US wars based on conscription. We have now a different model: mercenaries derived from the unemployed. Even that is being transformed by digital-warfare , drones, missiles. When citizen soldiers are no longer needed for the empire, democracy can be dispensed with. The Bill of Rights becomes a threat to the ruling class. An educated populace is not needed. Schools can be trashed. What is needed is a police-state to keep order among a large population in a land of social mobility. That is what we have, thanks to GWB and BHO, a police-state with bases all around the world, from the South China Sea to Central Asia.
 
 
+5 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-06 08:34
Why isn't Mitt Romney's praise for the Israeli socialized medicine not being more widely circulated? I can understand his Party's embarrassment, but why aren't the progressive blogs making much of his praise?
 
 
+5 # reiverpacific 2012-08-06 17:27
Quoting Innocent Victim:
Why isn't Mitt Romney's praise for the Israeli socialized medicine not being more widely circulated? I can understand his Party's embarrassment, but why aren't the progressive blogs making much of his praise?

Excellent point and thanks for that reminder.
Let's get it out there!
 
 
0 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-06 20:30
reiverpacific: Thanks for your comment. I think the left is also embarrassed by Rommey's statement about Israel's health-care. The left bloggers, for the most part, have been touting Obama's ACA. They don't want a comparison between Obama's best and Israel's praiseworthy system. They want voters to think of ACA as something good that Obama has done for them, not something that is a far cry from decent health-care.
 
 
0 # Innocent Victim 2012-08-06 20:03
LBJ was a traitor to his own cause: the Great Society. He was a political coward, afraid to tell the right-wing of the congress what every patriotic military person, from Eisenhower down, knew: the US should not fight a war in Asia. LBJ ran for president proclaiming that our "boys" should not do the fighting for Asian "boys". At the same time, he was planning for a massive US invasion of Vietnam.

He set the model for the lying destroyers of our Constitution and Bill of Rights who have since occupied the White House. He was forced by MLK to open the polls to blacks. What persuaded him? Was it MLK's pleas? No! It was his understanding that he could not pretend to lead the free world in wars of imperialism when in the US there was a constant state of civil chaos because of the subjugation of blacks in the south.

For Johnson and for all our presidents since WWII, what counted was the projection of US power abroad. He was a betrayer not only of the Great Society but of a decent society, just as his successors have been, including the worst of all, Barack Obama.
 
 
+4 # wilma 2012-08-07 03:04
I certainly remember those days of LBJ's administration and his efforts to get Medicare passed; It was something,but he was the best man for the job.
I was in middle school at the time and we would conduct debates on current events/issues. One was the pending legislation for Medicare. I was against it as so many others were since we were not totally informed or had kept ourselves ignorant of what it entailed.
We pointed out the 'evil' of socialized medicine, etc.

My mother was exasperated with me reminding me that we were too 'poor' to be against such a program.

So it is today as Medicare and Medicaid are under attack; I hear so many similar comments of surprising intensity.The same goes for the recently upholding by The US Supreme Court of "Affordable Healthcare Act". So much bickering from People who should know better. Goes to show you; people have very short memories.

I was watching early on one of the debates by the Republican contenders on the recently passed "Affordable Healthcare Act". This particular group of voters seemed specifically against it; why was it not clear, but when someone else interjected "What should we do with the indigent"
The overwhelming majority shouted, "Let 'em die". I'm sure that attitude may pass in Texas, but it does not fly with me.

Sincerely,

Wilma
 
 
+1 # spenel334 2012-08-07 19:41
Go to utube and listen to George Carlin's rant on the demise of the middle class. A bit crude, being George Carlin, but so true. They (banks, corporations, legislators and so on and so on, ... don't care about you, don't be fooled, they just don't care.
That will remain the truth unless we can force them to care. How we do that, I haven't figured out.

spenel334
 
 
0 # ThePigman 2012-08-10 23:39
Johnson - the last decent human being to step into the white house. After him, nothing but psychopaths - some with a prettier smile than others.
 
 
0 # ilenewells 2012-08-15 11:00
The main reason I support Medicare for All bill, HR 676, besides saving money by pooling risk and reducing administrative costs, is that it would finally ensure that serious mental illness (SMI) is covered the same as any other medical illness. The Affordable Care Act did strengthen parts of the Mental Health Parity Law passed in 2008, but it continues to allow some carve outs for whom parity does not apply. And, while it does have a test program that partially repeals a very discriminatory Medicaid law called the Institutes for Mental Dieseases (IMD) Exclusion, only a full repeal will remove the barriers for longer stays in hospital when clinically necessary. The states have balanced their budgets on the backs of people with SMI long enough.

The IMD Exclusion, was enacted along with the Community Mental Health Act of 1964 to get people who could live in the community out of the hospitals. It only allowed the states to receive reimbursement for community treatment. The idea was to give the states the incentive to move who could live in the community out of the hospitals, but the community mental health centers that were promised did not materialize, patients who were/are still delusional were/are released into unsupervised housing environments, and the discharge process is too fragmented. Now, most of the most seriously ill are homeless, incarcated, or dead. Medicare For All would remove the barriers to appropriate treatment for SMI, and save lives!
 

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