Hansen writes: "Global warming isn't a prediction. It is happening. That is why I was so troubled to read a recent interview with President Obama in Rolling Stone in which he said that Canada would exploit the oil in its vast tar sands reserves 'regardless of what we do.'"
Demonstrators protest against the Keystone XL Pipeline, 11/6/11. (photo: Evan Vucci/AP)
Game Over for the Climate
10 May 12
lobal warming isn’t a prediction. It is happening. That is why I was so troubled to read a recent interview with President Obama in Rolling Stone in which he said that Canada would exploit the oil in its vast tar sands reserves “regardless of what we do.”
If Canada proceeds, and we do nothing, it will be game over for the climate.
Canada’s tar sands, deposits of sand saturated with bitumen, contain twice the amount of carbon dioxide emitted by global oil use in our entire history. If we were to fully exploit this new oil source, and continue to burn our conventional oil, gas and coal supplies, concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere eventually would reach levels higher than in the Pliocene era, more than 2.5 million years ago, when sea level was at least 50 feet higher than it is now. That level of heat-trapping gases would assure that the disintegration of the ice sheets would accelerate out of control. Sea levels would rise and destroy coastal cities. Global temperatures would become intolerable. Twenty to 50 percent of the planet’s species would be driven to extinction. Civilization would be at risk.
That is the long-term outlook. But near-term, things will be bad enough. Over the next several decades, the Western United States and the semi-arid region from North Dakota to Texas will develop semi-permanent drought, with rain, when it does come, occurring in extreme events with heavy flooding. Economic losses would be incalculable. More and more of the Midwest would be a dust bowl. California’s Central Valley could no longer be irrigated. Food prices would rise to unprecedented levels.
If this sounds apocalyptic, it is. This is why we need to reduce emissions dramatically. President Obama has the power not only to deny tar sands oil additional access to Gulf Coast refining, which Canada desires in part for export markets, but also to encourage economic incentives to leave tar sands and other dirty fuels in the ground.
The global warming signal is now louder than the noise of random weather, as I predicted would happen by now in the journal Science in 1981. Extremely hot summers have increased noticeably. We can say with high confidence that the recent heat waves in Texas and Russia, and the one in Europe in 2003, which killed tens of thousands, were not natural events - they were caused by human-induced climate change.
We have known since the 1800s that carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere. The right amount keeps the climate conducive to human life. But add too much, as we are doing now, and temperatures will inevitably rise too high. This is not the result of natural variability, as some argue. The earth is currently in the part of its long-term orbit cycle where temperatures would normally be cooling. But they are rising - and it’s because we are forcing them higher with fossil fuel emissions.
The concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has risen from 280 parts per million to 393 p.p.m. over the last 150 years. The tar sands contain enough carbon - 240 gigatons - to add 120 p.p.m. Tar shale, a close cousin of tar sands found mainly in the United States, contains at least an additional 300 gigatons of carbon. If we turn to these dirtiest of fuels, instead of finding ways to phase out our addiction to fossil fuels, there is no hope of keeping carbon concentrations below 500 p.p.m. - a level that would, as earth’s history shows, leave our children a climate system that is out of their control.
We need to start reducing emissions significantly, not create new ways to increase them. We should impose a gradually rising carbon fee, collected from fossil fuel companies, then distribute 100 percent of the collections to all Americans on a per-capita basis every month. The government would not get a penny. This market-based approach would stimulate innovation, jobs and economic growth, avoid enlarging government or having it pick winners or losers. Most Americans, except the heaviest energy users, would get more back than they paid in increased prices. Not only that, the reduction in oil use resulting from the carbon price would be nearly six times as great as the oil supply from the proposed pipeline from Canada, rendering the pipeline superfluous, according to economic models driven by a slowly rising carbon price.
But instead of placing a rising fee on carbon emissions to make fossil fuels pay their true costs, leveling the energy playing field, the world’s governments are forcing the public to subsidize fossil fuels with hundreds of billions of dollars per year. This encourages a frantic stampede to extract every fossil fuel through mountaintop removal, longwall mining, hydraulic fracturing, tar sands and tar shale extraction, and deep ocean and Arctic drilling.
President Obama speaks of a “planet in peril,” but he does not provide the leadership needed to change the world’s course. Our leaders must speak candidly to the public - which yearns for open, honest discussion - explaining that our continued technological leadership and economic well-being demand a reasoned change of our energy course. History has shown that the American public can rise to the challenge, but leadership is essential.
The science of the situation is clear - it’s time for the politics to follow. This is a plan that can unify conservatives and liberals, environmentalists and business. Every major national science academy in the world has reported that global warming is real, caused mostly by humans, and requires urgent action. The cost of acting goes far higher the longer we wait - we can’t wait any longer to avoid the worst and be judged immoral by coming generations.
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Thank you conservatives. You have lost the will to conserve and you will not do anything even to save yourselves.
I've always puzzled over why liberals seek to conserve old growth forests, and conservatives seek to liberally log them off....
So those who care about trees, whales, the climate, clean air, un-polluted seas, the maintenance of non-human species, and the continuation of the human species itself, have to come up with a new term. These days they often call themselves "conservationis ts." One of the distinguishing marks of "conservationis ts" is that they are invariably despised by "conservatives."
"Conservatives" HAVE to despise them since the "conservationis ts" would impose restraints on the kind of freedom "conservatives" are bent on preserving.
By the way, "conservatives" are winning; "conservationis ts" are losing. Obama, it must be granted, adds to the muddle of what's happening by talking as a "conservationis t" while behaving as a "conservative."
Go figure.
Particular attention should be given steel wheels running on steel rails; railways, "Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform". American situation in the period from the First World War up to the Viet Nam era was energy independent, a lending not a borrowing nation. We had balanced transport options.
Specifically, the fact was, railway connection could be seen at most towns and village, or within a few miles, usually. This meant commerce could be maintained with much less fuel needed than we now consume with rubber tire based transport.
The rub is, rail based transport is less convenient, and reverting to rail based distribution and local warehousing/sto cking effectively puts "just-in-time" back, from a daily luxury.
For over a half century, metropolitan areas with rail commuter lines also had freight and victuals services on the same tracks at off-peak times, to distribution warehouses in the heart of downtown, even on elevated lines like New York.
The railroads have declared ability to move the Canadian tarsands production in tank cars in event pipelines are not built. Why do we not see our collective anguish over climate redirected to a comprehensive effort to restore the railway matrix of Pre-WWII USA? See ASPO 1037, and book: "ELECTRIC WATER".
The author is not a journalist. He is the head of NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Since 1981. Which is why RSN assumed you would know that.
Trouble is, folks refuse to give up hope and face reality. Reality has been deemed negative and therefore against all hope.
Now we can ask all the reasons why people are pushing full force ahead with developing new projects that will invariably lead to transferring vast amounts of carbon from under the ground and into the atmosphere and oceans. But are the motivations all that relevant?
Yes, it can be very tough finding a new line of business, a new job, this can be extremely challenging! but there is no moral, ethical or social justice rationale, as I can see, that would offer a justification for these fossil fuel companies to continue unabated in altering the very atmosphere and climate that the collective of humanity relies on to thrive, flourish and experience meaningful and enjoyable lives.
Hansen is absolutely correct. It is well past time that our politicians- those folks who we elect to represent our best interests and the interests of people during the decades to come- either pass laws that move our nation's energy consumption away from burning fossil fuels or, if not, simply do the right and brave thing and resign from office so we can elect people who will. Period.
The tragedy is that Planet Earth's flora and fauna will suffer too, and our beautiful green and blue Planet Earth will be no more. Perhaps in a few billion years something will creep out of the primordial ooze and make a better go of it.
amendment making all public elections publicly funded. We would be like a union of voters, focused on this goal and no longer selling our vote cheap. If, like a union, we remain in solidarity, in this close election, we can get significant climate change discussion into the debate. If any of you agree, please give a thumbs up or think this is foolishness, then a thumbs down. (I know, not great research method.)
Unfortunately the democrats are JUST as guilty for they NEED TO fight MUCH HARDER to IMPLEMENT WHAT DR. HANSEN ADVICED.
It is terrifying that we have NO STATES MEN, NOT JUST IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT IN the WORLD. For I see NO ONE, who is trying to unite the world leaders, and work for a just solution for ALL.
We will be the last generation to have had a good life, in a world with a fairly normal climate.
HOW INCREDIBLY TRAGIC. WE ARE DOING THIS TO OURSELVES.
Our children will curse us.
All the crap going on in congress is so totally asinine. They are squabbling about stupid things, when a lot of them DO understand the danger we are in.
I remember before Obama was elected some of the republicans in the house were talking about what could be done. they understood the danger I saw it on CSPANN.
Then Obama was elected, and NOW it was all about DESTROYING HIM.....and the rest of us
How can we get the young people motivated and mobilized to fight for their own survival??
Dr. Hansen is one of the most respected scientists, and I definitely believe him. I wish I didn't, for I feel sick about the LACK of future for my two daughter and grandsons.
British Columbia has already made it clear that they do not want the pipeline to cross their province on it sway to the sea. The ral issue behind this is that Houston TX has the largest refinery in the US and does not have "enough" oil to refine. Screw TX. Let them find some other way to make money.
I think we should hope and encourage Canada to GIVE UP on the tar sands oil, for as Dr Hansen mentions it is TWICE AS POLLUTING as regular oil, which means that disaster is coming faster.
Instead we should do EVERYTHING possible to work together on developing green solutions. Start competitions, as we did with the space race. This race is a heck of a lot more important, for it is the race for our survival
We regular citizens have to DEMAND that our leaders get together to work on solutions for the planet. If disaster does happen it will not discriminate among nations.
It will destroy rich nations as well as poor.... developed as well as less developed. You can NOT pay your way OUT of it
We will see the right wing and also the left showing their true colors.
They may well choose to continue their comfortable lifestyles. AND KILL THEIR CHILDREN'S FUTURE LIVES.
They might say like the nobles before the French revolution: "Apre nous, le delouge" And it truly will be the flood in a great many places.
Time it is for a global revolution:
REVOLUTION'S THE SOLUTION!
I just wrote some suggestions to what we PEOPLE need to work for. AND IT SURE WILL NOT BE EASY. But if we want to survive.?? It is our only chance.
For twenty years these scare tactics have predicted imminent doom. When these predictions don't come to fruition it is easy to relegate the "science" to the junk pile.
Our famous last words: We tried to warn you.
Don't vote for anyone in federal office now and get out and join OCCUPY!
Another difficulty few Americans are aware of is that constitutionall y both resources and environment are in provincial not federal jurisdiction. Federal coercion in those areas is possible but difficult. Harper is actually interpreting that jurisdiction thing pretty strictly. Don't say it shouldn't be like that. Canada can have the constitution it likes.
This is why you are seeing green this time. I have made several comments here for this is SERIOUS, not just chit chat discussion, and I am beyond worried for the future of my children, grandchildren.. .and yours
This is for ALL THE WORLDS PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER AND WORK LIKE CRAZY
China is a direct threat to the U.S. and Europe. More to come...
The U.S. may have used tremendous amounts of oil and such, but growing economies and countries such as China are in direct competition and WILL be sucking more oil than the U.S.
For the life of me, I can't understand it, but is as if their minds are wired a TOTALLY different way. I am convinced that the people I have interacted will NEVER agree to do something about GW, becuse they will NEVER agree that it exists. No fact, study, or even evidence from their own lives will sway their minds, which seem totally closed.(This seems to be a hallmark of average conservative mindset on a whole host of issues BTW) Facts mean nothing to them.
It is scary, and I don't know how to get around it. Until we do, the rest of us are really going to be screwed.
Gee, I wonder if that will be a repeat of the great drought from 900AD to 1300AD (400 yrs) that the West suffered though? Those darn injuns (careful folks - I'm 1/8 Cherokee)
I'm just going to stick to Texas. Yep - as they say - they had a very very hot and dry year.
On the other hand, NOAA's official temperature and precipitation records for Texas, going back 117 years are very clear. During this period of time, there is no temperature trend, up or down, in Texas. Precipitation does show a miniscule increase in trend - but is so small, it's insignificant.
What about the extremely cold winter in Europe which killed tens of thousands? The cold winter in S America a couple years back that killed so many? The record ice in the Bering Sea this winter -- oops - they'd predicted that would be the first area to first go ice free. Hmm.
I called NOAA - sea level trends folks a few weeks back. Fact - in all of there long term records of sea level - they see absolutely no mathematical evidence that there has been any global (especially surrounding the US (4 oceans) during the past 100 years - just plugging along at a constant rate. Once again - no cause for alarm. In a few hundred years, folks will have to move their teepee up the beach a few more yards, just like they have done for centuries.
Oh, I'm sorry - did fools build fixed objects on the beach - big silly mistake.
We should not call what is happening: Global warming. It is CLIMATE CHANGE.
The oceans ARE WARMING, which causes more precipitation. In the winters MUCH MORE SNOW and in the summer WAY TOO MUCH RAIN
Which causes floods....in SOME areas and extreme drought in others
A couple of years ago Australia had flooding, the size of FRANCE and GERMANY, COMBINED!!!!
Disaster is already happening.
Hurricanes (cyclonic) have decreased slightly
Tornadoes have decreased
Droughts are decreasing
Floods - nothing unusual there
SST (sea surface Temp) is not out of the ordinary
sea level rate of increase has not accelerated in the past 100 yrs, and recently has fallen.
Earths temp has not risen in the past 15-yrs, +/-.
The warming since the end of the last little ice age is cyclic, as was the cooling before that.
Arctic Ice cap is slightly above normal in the moment.
Global sea ice has not been decreasing - is stable.
Glacier melt has not accelerated - still just plugging along, since the warm up began after the little ice age ended (last 2-300 yrs).
Pollution is bad. Let's continue to address that.
The main thing we must focus on is population control, and that starts here at home, with immigration restrictions. We must decrease immigration - thus population explosion - in the US. If so, immediately, all pollution, including so called greenhouse gases, will continue to reverse course.
Disaster is not happening - many fewer people are dying from weather events then historically. Both here in the US, and globally.
You'll find no evidence of anything other than that other than wild crazy people just stating that it is worse.
I have traveled a lot, and The glaziers in Norway, where I have family is melting at a speed that is worrisome. Much faster in the last few years.Proven.
And so is the Greenland Ice. Through deep fissures in the ice the melting water on top is running down and making the ice slide faster. The scientists are extremely concerned. NOT CRAZY PEOPLE.
In the 53 years I have lived in this country (in California) there has certainly been a change. And the Tornadoes in the middle American states come earlier and more often, and violently. Sorry forparity, but I sure disagree with you
That "slippery" Greenland theory has been pretty much thrown out.
And, from Science Daily:
Researchers have found that the effects of the current warming/melting of Greenland's glaciers . . [also] occurred in the decades following an abrupt warming in the 1920s [prior to AGW].
CA changes? Nothing here you could experience. Temp in CA - state wide - hasn't warmed in the past 20 yrs. Looking at the temp records at NOAA, shows the temp trend from 1981 thru end of 2011 - is 0.02 F; which is below meaningless. Since 1996 (last 15 yrs) - the temp trend is -0.37 degrees F. per decade. Cooling, you see.
Sea level trend, here in LA, CA, per NOAA is rising at a whopping 3 1/4 inch clip/100 yrs. In every decade, back to 1920, it has been higher than present.
Tornadoes - no, there are not more - not more violent - not occurring earlier - number of deaths, resulting are way down than before the official start of AGW. - That's official.
In a warmer world - tornadoes will decrease.
1.) the current little mini 40 year warming cycle is due to flip. For the 40 years +/- before the current 40 yr warming cycle, it was cooling - fear about the expanding arctic ice (must have been expanding from the previous melt cycle.
2.) somewhere in here it's time for the typical 300-600 year cycle to flip. It's been about 400 years since the middle of the Little Ice Age cycle.
Norway?
Norway's glaciers growing at record pace. The face of the Briksdal glacier, an off-shoot of the largest glacier in Norway and mainland Europe, is growing by an average 7.2 inches (18 cm) per day. (From the Norwegian daily Bergens Tidende.)
Who knows, perhaps they're cherry picking a bit -- but these folks are at least doing some homework:
List of Expanding glaciers: http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm
Think about this - and about how long the cycle is - and when and why it started:
Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years.
The times, they are a-changing.
If there is no change in the Arctic, why are countries setting up claims and installing undersea markers for oil drilling, including sea lanes and international waters.
Deaths do not necessarily equate to warming or change. There are other signs and symptoms, such as many northern countries with bays rarely needing ice breakers in the winter now.
Much of what we are seeing is also destruction of the atmosphere, not just a greenhouse effect.
I, as X Dane, have traveled a great deal, and have discussed these issues with citizens of various countries, in addition to those in various states in the U.S. Just about everyone has declared major changes in their climate. One of the most remarkable was one of the islands off South America that was once tropical and is now dead dry. One fellow stated that if someone dropped a match on one end of the island, most folks wouldn't make it to the other end to jump in the water.
And how about the dozens of various types of animals migrating north? We see it in my state.
Yes, population control is paramount, but immigration isn't control. Having fewer babies is.
Officially, both in the Atlantic basin and globally - both the total number of major cyclones and the total energy released by the sum of, was less in the 2nd half of the 20th century than the 1st half.
Also:
June 2011: "During the past 6-years since Hurricane Katrina, global tropical cyclone frequency and energy have decreased dramatically, and are currently at near-historical record lows. According to a new peer-reviewed research paper . ."
A lot of media alarmism - but there is no evidence that floods, droughts, heat, cold, is out of the ordinary -- just cycles repeating themselves.
There are studies predicting such - but no documentation proving that it has occurred as of yet.
Here - from NOAA - noaa + "number of strong to violent (EF3-EF5*) Tornadoes"
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/EF3-EF5.png
Sometimes it doesn't load.
Note - even with modern radar, and all of the tornado chasers out there (now - few, if any aren't recorded - and many are recorded over and over again (problem, you see), there were still more before the age of AGW.
I don't have time - but it's not to hard to find the data from both NASA, Colo State U (they do the hurricane forecasts) - and the Chinese team -- all of which came up with very similar data -
And, on the cyclonic (hurricane) data - you have to understand - they are only looking at what is in the record. Satellite observations, of nay note) didn't begin until the '70's. And in the early 2oth century - we didn't even have radar. In other words, we only have measurements (scattered) for cyclones that either hit ground and were measured - in the eye (and most were not), and those that a ship managed to be caught in the middle of - that survived. Ah - many many hurricanes were never even witnessed, nor recorded - as they stayed out at sea.
We have rather accurate records for most all cyclones in the 2nd half of the 20th century - certainly, after 1970.
Still - more hurricanes were recorded in the 50 yrs prior, than the 50 years after - and now, we're at a 6 year low (decreasing).
My skepticism evaporated due to the reading, but mostly from personal experience in travel and local observations. There are amazing numbers of animals migrating north, and in my state in the middle of the country, we are seeing birds that have traditionally been found out west or in Mexico, Texas, and Florida and the southern coast. Armadillos are moving north in the thousands, local flora has also change dramatically, becoming more jungle like.
I have also lost my skepticism concerning the science behind manipulating the weather world wide. There definitely are changes coming, and chaotic weather patterns are indicative of that. Animals are reacting, which has always been a clear indication of change. Hell, they can even react to an earthquake before the tremor actually hits.
Best to observe our world first hand when possible.
You made the point that animals react almost instantly. So, I'd assume then, that during the equally (or more or less) intense warming leading up to the 1940's that they all started migrating then -- then back, as we cooled for the next 35-40 years, just before we started warming up again?
When I said animals react, I didn't mean instantly with the exception of earthquakes. The movement north in this part of the country has been taking place for two thirds of those 40 years. We shall see if they make the return migration even faster. Ahem. I remember the first time I saw an armadillo, in the early '90's, stumbling around in the underbrush in the woods, a long way from any town. Now, they are roadkill, wrecking fields and yards, etc.
When flying, I have seen increased amounts of smog, knowing that the worst of it cannot be seen. There is increased amounts of radiation, which may be seen in both flora and fauna, but in humans the increase in skin cancer and cataracts. Folks forget the atmosphere at large and that radiation.
FTR - the Himalayas are not a little thing. Neither are the hundreds of other exceptions.
The weather - climate - simply is going thru the usual cycles.
The fact that the media keeps this shrill reporting going on about the weather, and that some scientists are predicting future climate change doesn't make it occur, and the fact that many are also saying that we've been experiencing it, without producing the evidence to prove it - speaks volumes.
They never actually state that nor do they lay out a way forward with roughed in data. We need a plan that takes into account:
the vast amount of GHG to be given off during say a 30 year build-out of 'green' energy
a study proving that the switch would stop the positive feedback that is already occurring i.e. methane a very potent GHG is being given off by the tundra and seafloor as a result of and subsequently a cause of GW. The CO2 will not disapate quickly so the positive feedback is likely to continue unabated.
Will we give up animal husbandry which also gives off methane (as do we)
Will we stop rice growing a major source of methane?
We take whole river systems and evaporate them into the atmosphere adding to the principal GHG. Modelers claim they needn't include water vapour as it all falls out in a few days but that's like seeing 7 billion people juggling balls and saying there are no balls in the air because they aren't permanent.
Will we give up making cement and steel which processes give off GHG even if we use 'green' power.
Accomplishing as complete a conversion to 'green' energy as possible by 2050 would require devoting a huge proportion of our GDP to the project and would result in a higher GHG level at that point with no real likelihood of significant delay in warming.
As so many have pointed out above each country is sovereign and all theoretical since producing countries are not going to quit as long as consuming countries keep buying For all of the Third World even a mild increase in price results in starvation riots.
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