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Pierce writes: "After almost 11 years of our occupying a Muslim country, somebody in our military still is stupid enough to burn Korans in a garbage pit, or get photographed urinating on dead Afghans. More violence ensues. You'll pardon me if I start to believe that the whole place is simply turning from a war into a madhouse."

An Afghan woman gestures to the body of a child, who was allegedly killed by a US service member in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, 03/11/12. (photo: Allauddin Khan/AP)
An Afghan woman gestures to the body of a child, who was allegedly killed by a US service member, in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, 03/11/12. (photo: Allauddin Khan/AP)



A War Turns Into a Madhouse

By Charles P. Pierce, Esquire Magazine

13 March 12

his weekend, everything about the United States policy in Afghanistan stopped making whatever sense it ever made in the first place.

An American soldier, Christ alone knows why, committed an act of terrorism against the Afghan people. According to reports, the soldier wandered off the base and into an Afghan village, where he systematically went door to door and murdered 16 people, including nine children. There are now the low, mumbling noises of regret from the U.S. government, and the general tone of the commentary in this country is to ponder deeply how this might affect the American "mission" in Afghanistan.

(Also, if I see one more headline calling this thing a "spree," I may be forced to regret my own career choice. A spree is when some drunken frat-boy shoots out the streetlights on campus. This was mass murder, no different from the mass murders committed by Richard Speck or Jeffrey Dahmer or William Calley. If the American press tries to soften the edges of what happened with euphemism, which is what I suspect is already underway, the American press is guilty of one more crime against truth.)

I honestly don't believe that anyone knows anymore what in hell we're supposed to be doing over there. The main stated goal of our military operations - the destruction of the Afghan-based al Qaeda, including the killing of Osama bin Laden - has been accomplished. You hear a lot of vague talk about making Afghanistan "safe" for the Afghan people, and about how we have to be sure that Hamid Karzai's government is secure, and about how we're training the Afghan military to perform that task because we can't allow the Taliban "to make a comeback." Even if you accept them as legitimate, and, in poll after poll, the American people keep saying they don't, how do the events of just the past two months render those goals anything but obviously futile? Our soldiers shoot up civilians. Afghan men in police and army uniforms shoot up our soldiers. After almost 11 years of our occupying a Muslim country, somebody in our military still is stupid enough to burn Korans in a garbage pit, or get photographed urinating on dead Afghans. More violence ensues. You'll pardon me if I start to believe that the whole place is simply turning from a war into a madhouse. Better empires than ours have gone crazy in Afghanistan. Now, apparently, it's our turn.

It is absent from our domestic politics, and particularly from the presidential contest, because the war has been made apart from our politics from the outset. The general investment in the war by the country as a whole has been minimal. It was born out of shock and anger and outrage after the 9/11 atrocities and then, almost as soon as it had begun, the Bush administration began its preparation for its war in Iraq, which necessarily included lying to the country about why we were starting up in another place when we'd just started in Afghanistan. Our strategy there hadn't yet been fully explained when the arrant nonsense about Iraq began to fly. Barack Obama's seminal foreign-policy credential was that he opposed the war in Iraq because the Iraq war was "wrong" while Afghanistan was the "right" one. What was supposed to be the ultimate goal of the "right" war never was explained properly. And so, now, 11 years on, popular opinion is still irrelevant to a discussion of Afghanistan policy because it was rendered irrelevant from the start, because the "debate" on launching the war was truncated by anger and blood-tipped revenge, and because the "debate" on continuing it was subsumed by the "debate" on Iraq, to which public opinion was equally irrelevant, but for different reasons. Of the several things on which Ron Paul is absolutely correct, this is the most important: In this republic, if the Congress completely abdicates its legitimate war powers, then the people have no voice that anyone making the war need take seriously.

Now, with Iraq winding down, we are faced as a country with what we have done in Afghanistan, and we have no real perspective on it because, absent the destruction of Afghan-based al Qaeda, which we've accomplished, there never was a plausible national interest in rotating so many of our soldiers in and out of one of the most historically volatile places on earth, and one uniquely hostile to a foreign military presence of any kind. It has taken its toll on the military, and on us.

It turns out that whatever lit this soldier's fuse may have started back here. This is the second atrocity against Afghan civilians committed by soldiers from this base in the last two years. (Why the first one wasn't signal enough that something had gone badly wrong at Joint Base Lewis McChord, I have no idea.) Soldiers from that base seem uniquely susceptible to rampages, both in Afghanistan, and back home:

Army Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs, of Billings, Mont., the highest ranking defendant, was sentenced to life in prison. At his seven-day court martial at Lewis-McChord, Gibbs acknowledged cutting fingers off corpses and yanking out a victim's tooth to keep as war trophies, "like keeping the antlers off a deer you'd shoot." There have been other episodes of violence involving the base's soldiers or former soldiers. A former soldier shot and injured a Salt Lake City police officer in 2010; he died when police returned fire. On Jan. 1, a 24-year-old Iraq war veteran shot and killed a Mount Rainier National Park ranger before succumbing to the cold and drowning in a creek.

There also were 12 suicides at this same base in the past year. I fear we are falling into a dreadful cycle here - of atrocity and revenge and retribution, as though there's any real difference between the three, and all in alleged service to a fanciful geopolitical goal far removed from some very dirty realities. Armies crack up in Afghanistan. Empires collapse there. It is time to get out, sooner rather than later. If you're not going to listen to Alexander The Great, who got took an arrow in the leg there and nearly died, who are you going to listen to?

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+6 # laborequalswealth 2018-12-15 13:53
Gee. Are we all to think that this is anything unusual? Something new? Trump, Putin, the Clintons, the Bushes - all of them work for and with the oligarchs. Not one of them gives a fly's turd about the 99.999% of the rest of us.

If Spier really wants to do something, how about NOT voting for trillions of $$$$ for the American kleptocrat's muscle, aka the US military? Or actually getting a Constitutional Amendment pass invalidating Citizens United? Or taking back Congress' Constitutionall y mandated war powers?

One could go on and on. But I am nauseated by the pretence that only Trump or the Russians or Putin are morally corrupt when Jackie knows perfectly well that ALL OF OUR LEADERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE KLEPTOCRACY.

And she and the rest of the neolib Demos do absolutely nothing about it. Because they are part of the problem, not the solution.

This absurd Russian bashing, withdrawing from treaties is RISKING NUCLEAR WAR AND OMNICIDE FROM NUCLEAR WINTER.

And all these $174K/year + perks politicos can do is whine about some real estate deals. Jesus F Christ.
 
 
+4 # HarryP 2018-12-15 17:11
 
 
+8 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2018-12-15 17:57
labor -- I agree with you. Washington is for sale, or more precisely, the elected representatives we send there to do government work are for sale. They have been bought off by every oligarch, corrupt dictator, weapons maker, banker, and criminal you can imagine.

We just hardly pay any attention any more when Obama or Hillary (or Bill) gives a speech to some bankers for a half million or more. I read not long ago that Obama has made about $20 million on speeches since leaving the white house. These are "retroactive bribes." Maybe we should call it the "whore house." The people who live there sure will do a lot for some money.
 
 
+9 # yolo 2018-12-15 21:22
I remember talking once with a Mexican security official about the corruption in his country compared to the US. His response was the only difference between the corruption in his country and the US was in the US the corruption is legalized.
 
 
+29 # Elroys 2018-12-15 16:00
Let's see - why does trump lick Putin's boots?
A. He likes the flavor of leather, especially with the order of corruption and money
B. trump loves putin's money and will do and say anything for a buck
C. trump is so compromised that his only alternatives are to lick putin boots or go to jail and lose everything

D. trump wants to be caught, get fitted for his new pin stripes, live behind bars (iron, not gold) and he's looking for his next "girlfriends" in the new trump tower - the one with barbed wire and large men with AR 15s up in the tower.

Time to pul back the curtains on the wizard of ooze n' slime
 
 
-8 # Chipster 2018-12-15 16:32
A step too far? No connection of Putin to the sale in anything in Spier's article.
 
 
+10 # Salus Populi 2018-12-15 19:26
Imagine that Trump, instead, was in thrall to Israel, maybe through his son-in-law Jared Kushner, who is also close to Saudi Arabia, which feels entitled to torture and murder WaPo reporters as well as to commit genocide right next door to itself -- while the U.S. studies its nails.

Would there be equal outrage? After all, while the evidence of Russian "hacking" of the 2016 election has never been forthcoming, and seems likely not to exist in any reliable form, the evidence of Israeli political influence, and Saudi economic, is not only overwhelming, but right out in the open, even bragged about publicly by a former Israeli Prime Minister.

Oh, wait. Trump *is* kompromatted by Israel and Saudi Arabia, both of which seem to have _de facto_ control over U.S. foreign policy. So why is there no outrage? Maybe because most of the folks who are most vocal about "Russiagate" are essentially on the tab for Israel and the KSA. The neo-cons are notoriously close to Israel, with some of them holding dual citizenship; they are the most droolingly eager for "regime change" in Russia, or, in the alternative, to carry out a nuclear sneak attack on Moscow. And the Clintons, and by extension their "base," are in debt to, if not in cahoots with, Saudi Arabia.

Given Russia's diplomatically close relations to Israel, perhaps the truth is that both Trump and Putin have been bought by Netanyahu, as well as by Mr. Bone Saw.
 
 
-3 # Salburger 2018-12-16 04:35
Ah, the old International Jewish Conspiracy theme right out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But of course no leftist could ever be Antisemitic, could they?
 
 
+4 # yolo 2018-12-16 15:16
Salburger is it possible to criticize Israel without being against the jewish religion or in other words anti-Semitic? If you criticize Saudi Arabia and/or its leader Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud would that make you against all those who are muslims?
 
 
-6 # yolo 2018-12-15 21:51
This opinion piece is classic example of confirmation bias. Rep. Speier gives examples, mainly speculation and innuendo with no evidence linking Putin to Trump, which confirm her beliefs while failing to give opposing evidence to the contrary. Evidence like the fact that Trump imposed new sanctions on Russia, and attacked Syria in spite of Putin's objections to name a few. Not to mention the British are also influencing policy in the US to get us to make Russia our enemy again, see here https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/11/british-government-behind-secret-anti-russian-disinformation-campaign.html
 
 
-4 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2018-12-17 08:32
yolo -- yes, you would think that after 2 years of investigation by the world's most sophisticated investigative bodies (FBI, CIA, MI6, NSA) there would be some real solid evidence. The NSA and CIA have transcripts of every money transaction ever made on earth, as long as those transactions were electronic.

If these agencies had anything significant, it would have leaked. They leak everything.

But there is huge evidence of the whole scandal having been fabricated by the CIA and MI6. Now that explanation has real legs to stand on. The Trump - Russia conspiracy theory goes back to the CIA and MI6. No one is talking about the illegality of these two agencies meddling in the 2016 election and in the presidency of Trump.

Selling real estate to Russians is not proof of anything other than rich Russians are taking their money out of Russia and making that country poorer. This is something the US government has encouraged for a very long time.
 
 
+2 # Wally2007 2018-12-16 11:58
 
 
-4 # twestheimer 2018-12-17 02:04
 

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