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Excerpt: "Former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden has more secrets to reveal that relate to Israel, the journalist who first brought his leaks to the world's attention said on Monday."

Edward Snowden in Moscow. (photo: Barton Gellman/WP)
Edward Snowden in Moscow. (photo: Barton Gellman/WP)


Glenn Greenwald: 'Snowden Has More US-Israel Secrets to Expose'

By Reuters

07 January 14

 

ormer U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden has more secrets to reveal that relate to Israel, the journalist who first brought his leaks to the world's attention said on Monday

Among allegations aired by Snowden last year were that the U.S. National Security Agency and its British counterpart GCHQ had in 2009 targeted an email address listed as belonging to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and monitored emails of senior defense officials.

Israel played down the disclosures. But Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he had ordered the matter examined and that "there are things that must not be done" between allies.

Glenn Greenwald, who as a writer for Britain's Guardian met face-to-face with the fugitive Snowden and has written or co-authored many of the newspaper's stories based on his material, was asked in an Israeli television interview whether the ex-contractor had more secrets to tell that related to Israel.

"Yes. I don't want to preview any stories that aren't yet published, but it is definitely the case that there are a huge number of very significant stories that are left to report," said the Brazil-based Greenwald, speaking to Channel Ten TV by video link.

"We have only had these documents for seven months, which, given their volume and complexity, is not a very long time. There definitely are stories left that involve the Middle East, that involve Israel. The reporting is going to continue at roughly the same pace that has been happening."

Last month, several Israeli cabinet members and lawmakers said news of U.S. spying on Israel was an opportunity to press Washington to free jailed Israeli agent Jonathan Pollard.

Pollard, a former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, was sentenced to a life term in 1987 in the United States for spying for Israel. A succession of U.S. presidents have spurned Israeli calls for his pardon.

In what appeared to be a bid to calm the clamor, Netanyahu said Israel constantly sought Pollard's release and did not need a "special occasion" to discuss his case with Washington.

Greenwald voiced understanding for the Pollard linkage.

"I think you are absolutely right to contrast the Jonathan Pollard case with revelations of American spying on their closest allies within the Israeli government, because it does underlie, underscore exactly the hypocrisy that lies at the center of so much of what the U.S. government does," he said.

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+33 # Walter J Smith 2014-01-07 09:31
Israel is reeling with the Iran negotiations.

Any little side story will be better than letting everyone simply watch Israel reel.

Is Reuters owned by AIPAC as apparently is the US Congress?
 
 
+9 # Even 2014-01-07 10:31
This is a pro Israel story in your opinion?
Hardly.
 
 
+6 # Douglas Jack 2014-01-07 12:08
Its interesting for those of us (like Walter Smith) who read media as an event (story) within a story. The way Pollard's case, as an Israeli spy on the USA (there are many more), is thrust into this article on Snowden's NSA data-bank & Greenwald's reporting of this, is tenuous. Walter's questioning of ownership issues, in this case Greenwald's neutrality as a reporter is relevant.
 
 
+42 # mjc 2014-01-07 10:57
There are other incidents that might have been in the files that Snowden read...if not transferred to his files: the USS Liberty and the attack of Israel war planes on this US navy vessel certainly was covered over after the US lost something like 70+ sailors and the vessel itself. There is probably information on the Israeli attack on Gaza in which 1400 Palestinians, militants and civilians...inc luding 400 children many, who had sought asylum in UN schools in Gaza but were shelled by Israeli tanks. Another huge and more recent incident was the Israeli attack on the Turkish ship(s) carrying supplies, non-lethal supplies, to the isolated, imprisoned Gazans. There may be a lot of very damaging evidence of Israel's step toward totalitarianism in those files and there are many in Congress willing to protect Israel and the US in its role as chief cover of moral or ethical problems of our ally
 
 
-26 # tahoevalleylines 2014-01-07 15:03
Let's say the 1967 wartime Israeli Air Force pilots took off intending to sink a US Navy vessel, and all they could find was the LIBERTY! That makes a lot more sense in this gaggle of groupies than determination in the BIQ the ship was misidentified as an Egyptian combatant.

On the general notion of undermining Israel whenever & wherever possible: Of course expect a bigger and more robust reaction from those maniac Jews when they are pecked at for years and then finally jumped by combined Muslim armies. We are moving into that very situation again, boys & girls.

And, as usual, the aftermath of each full-scale conflict shall result in Israel pushing borders closer to the Genesis and Deuteronomy original covenant lines.

That is job #1 of World Islam: Seeking to eradicate the Jew from the Middle East is preferred methodology to achieve highest and best agricultural and scientific development in the Middle East, by expanding size and purview of the Jewish Nation. Giving unemployed Muslims - military age youth, something to do is an added benefit.

TETRAD, Astonomer's moniker for rare occurrence of 4 lunar eclipses shall again be seen 2014-2015. Others were 1492 (Jewish expulsion decree); 1948; 1967.... Note latest dates for TETRAD series is coincidental with Jewish Holy Days... Hmmm.

See NASA website.
 
 
+17 # Farafalla 2014-01-07 15:42
Why won't Israel let Mordechai Vanunu live in the country of his choice? There's a whistle blower who had his life ruined by Israel for spilling the beans on Israel's nuclear arsenal. We owe a lot to Vanunu. We should trade Pollard for Vanunu.
 
 
+1 # kalpal 2014-01-11 11:34
Lets say you make up BS and from that BS you create a nightmarish fantasy and then claim that it is all probable because the BS you based it on is your own precious BS.
 
 
+12 # polfrosch 2014-01-07 16:56
Please watch this excellent BBC documentary about the Liberty incident, it´s mindblowing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOH1XMAwZA

More than half of the crew was gunned down.
The six day war and the change in US policies towards Israel can not be understood without the fact Israel attacked one or two days after it succeeded to become a nuclear weapons power.

This fact is constantly omitted in the US media, as is any discussion about the Israeli nuclear weapons program.
In the 60s Israel swore any oath it had no intention to build a nuclear weapon - until they had it.
Israel accuses Iran to copy exactly what they did.

The USSR threatened to bomb Israels nuclear facilities to prevent Israel from going nuclear.

THIS is the prelude to the the Liberty incident. It probably has to to with this massive change in the mid east situation. Israel became the nuclear ally against the USSR. The world was at the brink of a nuclear attack of the USA on Egypt (with soviet bases) two A-4 Navy jets with nukes were scrambled, SAC B-52 bombers stood with running engines and broken target seals on the runway.

Watch the BBC documentary! Read the book "Operation Cyanide" by the researcher of the film, Peter Hounam (who also broke the Mordechai Vanunu story) he never found a US publisher, although most copies were sold in the USA.

And this massive change probably needed an incident of "pearl harbour" quality, which completly went wrong: the ship -miraculously- didn´t sink.
 
 
-75 # Caliban 2014-01-07 11:21
Whatever one may think of Edward Snowden's motives for taking the NSA documents, I no longer believe that Glenn Greenwald's intentions are anything other than monetary. though I might add what seems a persistent anti-American bias.

But he certainly can't claim with these new releases that his (Greenwald's) motive is to promote privacy rights, freedom of the press, or US Constitutional principles. Now that he's got his billionaire backer, Greenwald intends to use the Snowden papers to make himself very rich...at least as long as readers stay more than remotely interested. Which--if this is the kind of thing he has left--may not be very long.
 
 
+22 # Jim Young 2014-01-07 12:03
Quoting Caliban:
Whatever one may think of Edward Snowden's motives for taking the NSA documents, I no longer believe that Glenn Greenwald's intentions are anything other than monetary...


Seems a dangerous and less profitable way to make money (and stay healthy) than kissing up to the powers that corrupt our government. Phillip Agee was thought to be motivated by (or at least took) money (according to "Syriana's" Robert Baer) for his revelations (back when we still had somewhat effective internal channels for reporting suspected or observed abuses, that he perhaps should have used). Baer found a way (making some money, but not from the real enemies) to tell of some of the abuses, though it could be argued they haven't been effective, given the severe repression and prosecution of legitimate whistle blowers and worsening situation.

If they won't set up legitimate and effective internal channels that we can see evidence of making the situation better, instead of steadily far worse, then I hope we see a thousand more who will try to do it as well and carefully as Snowden, Greenwald, and those who support them. Clean it up or face the righteous wrath of the citizens being betrayed by those corrupting control of our government.
 
 
-19 # Caliban 2014-01-07 15:11
For Jim Young: I'm not sure how Greenwald is in any danger from his reporting information gathered by somebody else and published in the mainstream press in Europe, the UK, and the US. Edward Snowden may not be safe from future prosecution, but Greenwald's new billionaire-bac ked business enterprise will both protect his person and probably make him wealthy.
 
 
+21 # Farafalla 2014-01-07 15:37
Fascinating obsession with Grennwald having secured funding for an independent form of online journalism, like RSN. If Greenwald succeeds, so do I. I have no problem with his billionaire backer. It's Rupert Murdoch, billionaire backer of right wing propaganda, I have trouble with. If I had a billion, I too would support Greenwald, and RSN, and Nation of Change, and a host of progressive news outlets. Best I can do now is 10USD to RSN to keep Greenwald on my reading list.
 
 
+13 # polfrosch 2014-01-07 16:42
Really interesting how making money by doing unique work suddenly turns into something sinister as soon as it has to do with investigative journalism.

I have heard all kinds of very strange statements on US business tv channels, like "greed is good" and a nearly religious admiration for "the markets", no matter what they mean for the population, as well as praise for shrewd business moguls for being ruthless.

But when it comes to real journalism, suddenly the admirers of the free market turn to kind of communist ideologists: "Greenwald just does it to make money".

Even better: No, he probably doesn´t do it just because of the money, journalists like musicians or artists or many craftsmen or priests and other professions are not really in the same "business" mindset as investment bankers.

They are passionate about what they do - and hope to make a living from it or hope to make money with it. An investment banker will invest in any business to make money, end of interest and passion.

These mistakes in basic judgement are so fundamental it is inexplicable they are overlooked.

Please: for a multitude of reasons journalism is not and should not be the same as selling tomatoes. Unfortunately the tomato sales people have taken over everything.

It´s the bad ecomomy ideology, stupid. Just ask pope Francis.
 
 
+1 # ishmael 2014-01-08 02:11
Someone once said that power corrupts. And people often say, "follow the money".

Money is power.

Follow the money.
 
 
+5 # Jim Young 2014-01-07 19:32
For Caliban: Glenn Beck is but a tiny portion of the very secure and ass-kissing propagandists for those who corrupt so much of our country for their sponsors. It's like a wrestling match with one side having an honest two man tag team (with one sponsor) and the other side having a twenty two hundred man tag team(some innocent looking, but many first rate cheaters, with an army of powerful but corrupt sponsors) and crooked referees to boot.

There is no comparison, though I am intrigued by the blatant projection of the dirty side's tactics onto any and all who fight back. We all aren't like that, in fact I left the Republican party my ancestors founded when a fund raiser told us we "have to fight dirtier than Democrats." I'm fiercely Independent after I saw Newt Gingrich's 1996 GoPac memo "Language: A key Mechanism of Control" being put into practice. The Cato Institute had suggested using Leninist tactics (like the memo), though Newt seems more impressed by Mao's.

P.S. Added: Ask Barrett Brown about Michael Hastings and his death in June, soon after Snowden's data hit the press. Better yet, drive the street where Hastings was killed and see if it makes any sense to you.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2014-01-08 03:15
I guess I will try once more to express myself on Greenwald simply and clearly, since I have not done this very well so far.

Essentially, with the rest of the thinking world, I believe the initial revelations about the phone metadata collection and the Prism program were striking and important reporting that have given birth to an important constitutional debate in this country and the world, as Snowden had hoped.

However, Greenwald's promise in this article of more stories about pretty routine themes like the US/Israeli espionage suggest nothing remotely like the impact of the initial revelations and instead threaten to become pretty routine. Nor-since you mention him-will they be anything remotely Michael Hastings-like in journalistic force and impact. Now perhaps I'll be wrong in this assessment, but the person we need to be watching now is not Glenn Greenwald but Edward Snowden--the person who did the really hard (and dangerous) work on this whole matter.
 
 
+9 # Jim Young 2014-01-08 08:32
I respect your opinions and didn't vote down the previous one. I think you are right about Snowden doing the really hard and dangerous work, and I believe he is rare in his abilities and partnered with others to try to reveal much less than they could. He has said that the reason he went outside was due to what they did to Thomas Drake, who tried to report suspicions and observed abuses, in my opinion, within a system so corrupted that they attack the whistle blowers much more severely than the abusers (effectively protecting and strengthening the abusers).

Though I believe Edward Snowden is a true, careful, whistle blower, and not like Frank Abignale (Catch Me If You Can), who's criminal exploits I followed long before they caught him, I do believe bringing him back to use his talents to clean up the real criminals (as Abignale did after serving about 5 years in jail for his real crimes). I don't believe Snowden committed real crimes (at least in comparison to those he revealed), and should suffer no more consequences than Daniel Ellsberg (and Russo) two other very smart and careful "whistle blowers" (fortunate enough to have a senator read the documents into the Congressional Record).

Ellsberg's Russo, and Felt's Gray, are just two examples of others who help in some ways. I believe there are more of them within "the system," that could do more with legitimate internal channels to report suspected or observed abuses.
 
 
+3 # Caliban 2014-01-08 15:35
Fair enough. One thumb up.
 
 
-2 # kalpal 2014-01-11 11:37
So only pretty routine matters are left? You know this because you have read through all of the documents and are pretty sure nothing of any consquence remains to be shown to the world.

BAH HUMBUG!
 
 
-2 # kalpal 2014-01-11 11:35
Nice bit of BS fanatsy you are creating there.
 
 
+20 # Pikewich 2014-01-07 14:09
Would be willing to back these rather strong accusations with some evidence?

Perhaps Glenn has a billionaire progressive backer BECAUSE he is one of 2 who is willing to risk publishing these documents, even knowing it is unsafe for him to travel in the US as a result. I would not put it past the Mosad to orchestrate an "accident" for him as a result of the Israeli information, and he probably knows that as well.

In short, I don't think he is in it for the money.
 
 
0 # ishmael 2014-01-07 20:20
Clearly Mr G wants to fight bg money with big money. A novel view of investigative reporting.
 
 
-20 # LAellie33 2014-01-08 06:58
Agree! Don't trust Greenwald's motives and think Snowden is a bought and paid for traitor. He's a Rand Paul supporter, against the government, so take it from there. Snowden endangered the United States and should be tried for treason.
 
 
-1 # kalpal 2014-01-11 11:39
How did he endanger the US? Is telling the truth about governmental lies a form of endangerment?
 
 
+30 # Helen Marshall 2014-01-07 11:33
I'm puzzled by the references to Israel as an ally. What makes it an ally other than the clout swung by AIPAC? It is at best a military client receiving billions in aid every year, which it uses to attack places like Gaza.

The suggestion that there is a linkage between the Pollard case and the NSA is hard to understand. Yes we are hypocrites. But we should not arrest and jail US citizens who spy on behalf of another country? Israel is considered to be a major counter-intelli gence challenge. It's hard to believe that the Israelis don't get what they need directly from the USG, but apparently not. In any case it is not the NSA that conducts counter-intelli gence operations and the subsequent prosecutions. Given that we are spying on the entire world, the argument that an Israeli agent should be freed because the US has spied on Israel would expand to abandoning any effort to detect and stop spying directed against the US. The ultimate in transparency?
 
 
-26 # jwb110 2014-01-07 11:46
What makes anybody think that the US Military doesn't have an anti-Semitic bent. There is still a lot of that thing in the US and other than the Christian Zionists to some degree we have seen it.
 
 
+20 # Douglas Jack 2014-01-07 12:48
The US military bombs Semites (Arabs & Aramaics), whichever way Israel points its fingers as well as arming Israel with such as enhanced uranium to bomb such as Damascus in winter 2013 or white phosphorus in Gaza. The violent Europeans who call themselves Jews are neither Semites nor Jews. MIko Peled The General's Son, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNON9VRV-wE
Max Blumenthal, Goliath: Life & Loathing in Greater Israel, http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10922------
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/10/4/max_blumenthal_on_goliath_life_and


Of course the US military is directed by the US government whose parliamentarian s are mostly owned by certain central banks. This film ‘Money Trail’ Rothschild Conspiracy International Banking Cartel & The Federal Reserve is one of 50 exposes available. What more does 'anybody' need to make this obvious association. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzyOtl4MDC4

Christian Zionists are a complete contradiction in terms being psychotic disturbed people in need of violent empire in order to justify their own self-worth completely at odds with the pacifism of Jesus or any other prophetic message.
 
 
+2 # Guy 2014-01-08 17:22
Totally agree with your comment.I read both books ,Max and Miko,both very enlightening about the Israeli condition.
 
 
0 # TomThumb 2014-01-10 12:33
Whoever accused Christian fundamentalists or Christian Zionists, these two words being fundamentally in opposition to each other, of being intelligent enough to even have a coherent philosophy? Other than for justifying selfish violence, that is.
Tommy Rimes
 
 
+2 # ishmael 2014-01-08 02:14
The military does whatever the politicians in charge tell it to do. Look at Iraq.
 
 
+3 # TomThumb 2014-01-10 13:09
Recently an 'at risk youth' came to me, sent by others, who were observing for laughs. He said, "I want to join the Marines and fight for my country." My response was, "boy, your country doesn't give a s*&t about you, if it did you wouldn't be where you are now." However, he was just the victim of the propaganda in media, and most recently and more insidiously, video games that pervade our culture. These games foster a desire for violence, and train the young, and some might say, dumb, for the military or the prisons. Don't feel sorry for the troops though. The behavioral school of psychology says everyone expects to get something out of every action. They expect, the intangible, glory, or maybe just a job.
It is generally considered that when anyone becomes part of the general staff, he becomes a politician also. (ie. Colin Powell, Alexander Haig, etc.) This is very pronounced in the US, probably more than other countries, except Israel.
The military is part of every dirty idea the politicians manufacture, many of them having nothing to do with the military. They are there in the person of the Secretary of Defense, if no one else.
They share in the glory and spoils too, in the revolving door between government, industry, and, more pronounced recently, finance.
In short, the military command structure is part and parcel of the whole mess. They are then the ensurers that the troops are thoroughly and effectively indoctrinated in political policy.
Tommy Rimes
 
 
-1 # kalpal 2014-01-11 11:41
The dominionists in the US military are looking forward to the so called end-times when they can struggle against the evil that is Judaism and entice Jesus to return to earth and show him how much they love him by killing his co-religionists .
 
 
+47 # Alternative 2014-01-07 11:56
Not surprised and extremely glad to hear this.

Personally I am outraged that we continue to subsidize an apartheid regime and that almost all of our politicians must pledge support to AIPAC and Israel or else they will surely lose their seat. A foreign tail is wagging the dog.
 
 
-4 # ishmael 2014-01-07 18:20
Not much of substance from Mr Greenwald really, in this RSN piece. Just an announcement of "more to come".

The alleged spying activities don't sound unconventional at all.
 
 
+3 # DaveM 2014-01-09 10:11
Mr. Snowden would be a fool to release everything he has, particularly if he has important material that American authorities know he has. Such information, which I dearly hope he has placed in the hands of others unknown to authorities, is a fine life insurance policy.

If it is necessary for some secrets to be kept to save Edward Snowden's life, I say: by all means, keep them. He has already done a service to this country far above and beyond what I suspect even he imagined.
 
 
+1 # Jim Young 2014-01-09 17:38
I believe his motives are more to protect the secrets he believes should be protected, and has only released what he has in order to force those in power to start reforming the abuses (instead of abusing whistle blowers like Thomas Drake, who did try to keep it all within the system). Snowden and Ellsberg seem the most exceptionally competent and careful whistle blowers to reveal themselves, willingly risking everything on principle). Others have stepped up to varying degrees, some trying to protect themselves much more, like Mark Felt (most significant Deep Throat), who had access to somewhat similar levels and perhaps breadth of secrets, was able to stay secret with the help of the reporters and editor. Others openly contributed somewhat smaller pieces of the puzzle, I think as completely as they could, like Mark Klein (and his wife Linda). I met them and do believe they may have a smaller piece of the puzzle but are absolutely fearless about telling the truth as they see it, completely, and on principle, more than any money could buy.

Others (Manning, etc) tried to keep their identities secret, and were less able to reveal information as carefully as I would have hoped they would have. I blame the lack of legitimate internal channels for trying to block their actions in accordance with their consciences.

Where are the stories of legitimate internal channels working in the last decade or two?
 
 
+2 # Rainfeather 2014-01-09 21:30
i think he should share them and then show the world Israel is not an ally
 

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