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Lopez reports: "Contradicting a statement by ex-vice president Dick Cheney on Sunday that warrantless domestic surveillance might have prevented 9/11, 2007 court records indicate that the Bush-Cheney administration began such surveillance at least 7 months prior to 9/11."

Bush and Cheney (photo: AP)
Bush and Cheney (photo: AP)

Bush-Cheney Began Illegal NSA Spying Before 9/11

By Ralph Lopez, Digital Journal

15 July 13


ontradicting a statement by ex-vice president Dick Cheney on Sunday that warrantless domestic surveillance might have prevented 9/11, 2007 court records indicate that the Bush-Cheney administration began such surveillance at least 7 months prior to 9/11.

The Bush administration bypassed the law requiring such actions to be authorized by FISA court warrants, the body set up in the Seventies to oversee Executive Branch spying powers after abuses by Richard Nixon. Former QWest CEO John Nacchios said that at a meeting with the NSA on February 27, 2001, he and other QWest officials declined to participate. AT&T, Verizon and Bellsouth all agreed to shunt customer communications records to an NSA database.

In 2007 the Denver Post reported:

"Nacchio suggested that the NSA sought phone, Internet and other customer records from Qwest in early 2001. When he refused to hand over the information, the agency retaliated by not granting lucrative contracts to the Denver-based company, he claimed."

Other sources corroborate the former CEO's allegations, which were made in the course of his legal defense against insider trading charges. Both and National Journal have published reports in which sources are quoted which support the former CEO's claims.

Speaking on "FOX News Sunday" this weekend in defense of the Obama administration's NSA PRISM program, which has caused a national uproar over the sweeping intrusion by the government into American citizens' emails, live chats, and other electronic communications, Cheney said:

"Now, as everybody has been associated with the program said if we had this before 9/11, when there were two terrorists in San Diego, two hijackers, able to use that program, that capability against the target, we might have been able to prevent 9/11,"

However, the presence of such powers in the hands of the present administration did not succeed in preventing the Boston Marathon attacks, even though the suspects were already well-known to the FBI, and one allegedly told law enforcement, while in the hospital, that they were able to "download plans for pressure cooker bombs from the Internet.

In the same interview on "Fox news Sunday" Cheney called NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden a "traitor."

In 2004, an AT&T technician filed a class action lawsuit against AT&T for engaging in an illegal domestic-surveillance program at the behest of the government. The Bush administration accessed major routers owned by telecommunications companies, in cities such as San Francisco, to divert traffic onto NSA mirror sites in order to capture vast volumes of data.

The Bush-Cheney administration fought fiercely to pass legislation which granted telecommunications companies immunity from prosecution for violating Americans' Fourth Amendment rights under the Constitution. The legislation was passed in 2008. UK Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald argued that the unprecedented "retroactive" immunity would also give the Bush administration immunity as well, by preventing lawsuits from moving forward into the discovery phase, where wrongdoing was likely to be uncovered.

Nevertheless, political accountability activists continue to press for action against the Bush, and now the Obama, administrations for violations of the Constitution and settled law. On April 19th of this year a California attorney, Inder Comar, filed two lawsuits in the Northern District of California against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and Paul Wolfowitz for planning and waging a "war of aggression" against Iraq, in violation of laws set down at the Nuremberg Trials in 1946. A radio interview of Comar can be heard on peace activist Cindy Sheehan's radio show HERE. your social media marketing partner


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+87 # indian weaver 2013-07-15 12:57
I'm not reading anymore dubya dick the prick stories. A million stories exist in the Naked City, remember that TV show "Dragnet"? Well, nobody wants to see dubya or dick the prick anywhere anymore. We know they deserve to be executed at The Hague.
-53 # Interested Observer 2013-07-15 16:21
"dubya dick the prick" ... a drift toward vitriol? ... Hardly, this is a 10 meter board plunge straight into the vat. Adding an incoherent jumbled reference to old cop shows doesn't seem to make a point either. Are you just intentionally testing the RSN guidelines? This has all the wit of Ann Coulter calling John Edwards "the f-word for homosexual" at very public right wing function which, big surprise, got her a big round of applause.
+44 # JSRaleigh 2013-07-15 17:16
At least it's alliterative instead of illiterate.
+20 # Interested Observer 2013-07-15 19:39
The crude invective and incoherence of the original post combined with the -19 so far on the reply demonstrates that the RSN stated concern is completely justified. I use "Dubya" myself, as it is not crude and expresses the appropriate contempt for a scion of American aristocracy, such as it is, and holder of two ivy league degrees (that rolled off like water off a duck it seems) who portrays himself as a good old boy and a bubba, whose highest priority in his last year in office in the midst of two wars, with no end in sight at the time, was his plans to "replenish the old coffers" on the speaking circuit upon leaving office and had the poor sense to say so out loud revealing his total lack of understanding of what a sorry excuse of a president he had been.
+17 # rockieball 2013-07-15 21:13
The truth really hurts doesn't it. Denial of the right to anything that the Bush administration did. In fact denial that the administration even existed.
+1 # RLF 2013-07-26 06:21
Let's not lose track of the fact that the Obama administration has done nothing to stop it in 6 by my accounting, they are as guilty as Bush. And by the way the FISA court is 100% appointed by John Roberts, the super right wing tool of industry sitting at the head of the supreme(not so much) court...hench a joke!
+19 # bmiluski 2013-07-16 08:15
First.....John Edwards is not a f-word for homosexual. Therefore coulter's remark was stupid and false.
Second....Thanks the dubya and dick thousands of American men and women have died and many thousands more have been maimed by the two illegal wars that d/d started for the enrichment of their buddies. Over 2 thousand men, women and childrend died in Katrina while dubya was vacationing. These facts are true. Therefore, the vitriol is justified.
+9 # zornorff 2013-07-15 19:12
Sorry...Dragnet was about Los Angeles. The expression "...there a a million stories in the naked city..." came from the program "Naked City", not Dragnet.
+2 # RobertMStahl 2013-07-16 07:41
The thing is Zimmerman's face is on the face of the dollar bill, now. Read Paul Craig Roberts about the bullying of the whole world to protect the criminals vying for world hegemony. Better you buy some silver.
+50 # Barbara K 2013-07-15 15:54
I'm not surprised. I heard about it long before 9/11. It was leaked and no one was paying attention to what the implication was or how serious it was. They just kind of slipped it under the radar, as the saying goes. Even Nixon was doing it all he could get away with.

-62 # egbegb 2013-07-15 16:42
Blaming 9/11 on Bush/Cheney is a bit of a stretch. 99.9% of the people involved in monitoring threats were held over from the Clinton era. Our government failed us. Blaming someone specifically for being surprised doesn't solve any problems.

If Bush did invent NSA spying on ordinary citizens, and there is no proof that is true, then Obama certainly kept it going. I'm against all warrantless invasions of privacy. I wonder how far back Snowden's stuff goes?

Snowden is definitely guilty of theft and should go to jail in my opinion. Were I the judge and with what I know now, I would sentence him to the slammer for 30 days. There is no way he would get such a reasonable, unemotional trial in America.
+14 # bmiluski 2013-07-16 08:22
The bush/cheney administration knew about the people involved in the 9/11 attackes. FBI agents noted middle-eastern men taking flying lessons that did not include landing proceedures. When they reported these finding to their superiors, they were told to disregard what they had learned. So the monitoring that was left over from the Clinton era worked. The results were then locked away in a draw.
+94 # Regina 2013-07-15 16:06
They were so damned busy spying on us that they couldn't respond to the mere-female field agent warning them about foreigners in flight training who asked only for instructions on steering large planes, never mind takeoff and landing. Indeed, they're delighted to have 9/11 as an excuse for abolishing all sorts of constitutional rights.
+110 # PABLO DIABLO 2013-07-15 16:16
What Constitution? We shredded that in 2000 when we allowed the Supremes to "select" our President.
+51 # NanFan 2013-07-15 17:05
What Constitution? We shredded that in 2000 when we allowed the Supremes to "select" our President.

Absolutely true!

+24 # wwway 2013-07-15 20:12
Bush v. Gore is a case that is revisited in mock SSCs in teaching constitutional law. To my amazement every mock court stent the case back to the state of Florida for nearly the same reasons. Recently, I believe it was Sandra Day Oconnor who said that in hind sight that was what the court should have done. No kidding!
+2 # RobertMStahl 2013-07-16 07:44
They turned Indira Singh into a chad. Where the hell is she, now?
-13 # mwlaird 2013-07-15 16:30
This form of spying on emails and international phone calls goes back to the Clinton administration and the ECHELON program...
+60 # JSRaleigh 2013-07-15 17:14
They weren't looking for terrorists. Before 9/11 bush/cheney didn't believe in terrorists.

They were spying on domestic political opposition, particularly opponents to the bush/cheney energy "policy" allowing Enron and other crony oligarchs to loot the state of California as a prelude to taking energy "deregulation" nationwide.
+31 # bbaldwin2001 2013-07-15 17:21
This is the work of Dick Cheney and his frat boy, George Bush. Cheney the evil one of there two. Frankly, I now believe that George Bush was merely a puppet President - and he let Cheney run things. So, Cheney was responsible for this illegal spying..Bush knew about it I am sure...but stuck his head under a rock.
+3 # JSRaleigh 2013-07-17 20:22
Quoting bbaldwin2001:
This is the work of Dick Cheney and his frat boy, George Bush. Cheney the evil one of there two. Frankly, I now believe that George Bush was merely a puppet President - and he let Cheney run things. So, Cheney was responsible for this illegal spying..Bush knew about it I am sure...but stuck his head under a rock.

Junior doesn't get a pass on this. Don't let the incompetent frat boy image fool you. He may be a dry drunk & dumber than a box of rocks, but he's got the soul of a rattlesnake.

The Bush family history with the CIA goes back to 1947. George H.W. Bush was operating CIA business front companies long before Nixon tapped him for Director of the CIA.

He's the linchpin between Wall Street money, Texas Oil and the shadow government.

And don't forget Iran Contra. It was GHWB whose contacts brokered the deal for Iran to keep the hostages until after the 1980 election.

Cheney may have been the BRAINS of the administration, but GWB was it's malevolent driving force.

After 9/11 they didn't want to go after bin Ladin, they wanted Saddam, who had nothing to do with 9/11. The Iraq war was a Bush family personal vendetta. Chaney just wanted the oil.

They kept bin Ladin in reserve as a boogeyman to be trotted out for every subsequent election to scare the rubes into voting the homeland security party line.

Do you really believe they couldn't have found bin Ladin if they'd wanted to?
+56 # Art947 2013-07-15 17:23
The most important fact that was presented here is that once again, Cheney has been shown to be a liar. It is so pathetic that every time this individual opens his mouth another lie passes his lips.

What is even more disturbing is that the lame-stream media continues to give this deceitful hypocrite a public forum to spew his venom.
+17 # Interested Observer 2013-07-15 19:41
Wasn't that already apparent when he continued to claim links between Iraq and 9/11 into the 2004 election cycle.
+39 # Rita Walpole Ague 2013-07-15 17:30
Absolutely, Pablo D.. Rule of law and constitutional rights shredded and in the toilet. Full of critical thinking, courage and determination we have to get, and follow in the footsteps of our brave real heroes, our true Uncle SAM (Snowden, Assange, Manning).

Lots and lots we've gotta do to.....

+12 # Floe 2013-07-15 21:58
Disengage from the system and engage with alternative systems. Many options today with the internet. Buy local, buy used not new, buy organic and take your money out of the big banks.
+50 # roger paul 2013-07-15 17:46
If Dick Cheney were to look in the mirror he would see what a real traitor looks like.
+34 # vitobonespur 2013-07-15 18:38
Quoting roger paul:
If Dick Cheney were to look in the mirror he would see what a real traitor looks like.

Have you forgotten? Beings of Cheney's ilk do not make reflections in mirrors.
+9 # photonracer 2013-07-15 19:06
So true according to legend. That is why hanging won't work. A well placed stake through his purchased custom harvested heart would be appropriate. In the Hague, in New Jersey, where ever.
+3 # DPM 2013-07-16 13:55
The Devil won't take him. He is the "undead".
+31 # fredboy 2013-07-15 17:49
Remember, before 9/11 their approval rating was 28 percent...
+21 # Billy Bob 2013-07-15 18:31
Remember, a few years after 9/11 it was down to 23%... I guess allowing 9/11 to happen bought them just enough "capital" (as george II put it) to get re-elected (with the help of stealing Ohio).

After that, the mask came off and we saw their original agenda more clearly.

Bush Jr.

I hope this isn't the "Ten-Headed Beast", which would mean we have 4 more to go!

P.S. Sorry for the pessimism.
+2 # Walter J Smith 2013-07-15 19:00
It is traditional for professional liars to forget which lies they have told.

Some, of course, are far more forgetful than others; some obviously do not care what they forget. Or which lies they have told, or are telling.

Remember, our politics makes professional liars out of most of the ones who stick around in the business for a few years.

Then they go on to super lucrative positions. Experienced professional liars are in high demand. Look at the speech fees Hilary Clinton is collecting, and the ones her husband has been collecting for 12 years.
+11 # ishmael 2013-07-15 19:59
Of course, the GOP 's travesty is now all Mr Obama's fault. Just like the economic mess he inherited from the American Taliban.
+14 # psadave 2013-07-15 20:20
Cheney agreed with Nixon: "If the president does it, it's not illegal!"
+8 # reiverpacific 2013-07-15 20:29
Again, no surprise here.
I've still never had a satisfactory answer as to how the conception, planning, land acquisition, preliminary and final architectural and engineering design, preparation of construction documents and award of contracts (albeit "No-bid" to cronies of Cheney's at KBR/Haliburton) and construction, including buying off the nationals who could joint-venture them into the construction of the biggest global US Embassy compound known as the "Green Zone" in the middle of Bagdhad, which can be seen from space, could have been anything but long and carefully pre-planned, long before 9-11 and actually linked in a back-door way as a prelude for, if not actually carrying out the 9-11 attacks, or at least allowing them to happen.
I'm one of the architects and engineers for 9-11 truth who have never bought the official line, and one who has actually looked much deeper logistically and strategically into the whole sequel of this as but steps in the "Project for a new American century" envisioned by Krystol, Cheney, daddy of Dimwits Bush.
Those of you who are trying to de-fink Dimwits and Ghoul Cheney forget that Condosleazy Rice, utterly incapable of doing the job she was tokened into, and Rummy Rumsfeld, declined to acknowledge many warnings of an imminent Al-Queda attack on the US, including from these two disparate sources Israel and Iran, with their customary hubris.
Amnesia is a poor excuse for wanton head-in-the-san d insouciance and suspicion of motives.
+8 # Floe 2013-07-15 21:55
"In the same interview on "Fox news Sunday" Cheney called NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden a "traitor.""

Snowden is spot on to welcome Cheney's hatred.
+6 # reiverpacific 2013-07-16 09:20
Quoting Floe:
"In the same interview on "Fox news Sunday" Cheney called NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden a "traitor.""

Snowden is spot on to welcome Cheney's hatred.

No doubt: I can't watch Fox as a danger to my outrage-o-meter blowin' it's top, so I'll take y'r word for it.
But isn't this the same mentality that, like Thatcher, Reagan and a young David Cameron, that called Nelson Mandela a "Dangerous Terrorist", even when he was in jail.
Cheyney (and his former puppet Dimwits) be a-skating on thin ice as their travel options shrink while more and more of the world nations see them for what they are -war criminals, human rights abusers, cowards and yes-traitors and call for their arrest and trial (hence the Dimwits clan's refuge in Paraguay perhaps)!
+8 # kalpal 2013-07-16 05:22
GW has spent a life being a conman and Cheney has just been plain evil ever since he flunked out of Yale.

Of course its important to blame every bit of incompetence on the guys who left office as the new guys who frequently stated to the media that the adults are finally in charge kept screwing up and insisting that it was all a carryover from teh past and in no way their doing. I recall Bush's first treasury secretary telling someone that before the end of February 2001 Bush was asking his cabinet to come up with an excuse to attack Iraq. The conman denied this of course just as he denied his criminal past till proof that had not been erased showed up.
+8 # bmiluski 2013-07-16 08:29
It's hard to correct past errors when the opposition has a meeting and declares that their number one priority is to make sure that President Obama is only a one term president. Not the economy, not the enironment, not the welfare of this country. Those are your real traitors.
+12 # Kootenay Coyote 2013-07-16 07:42
Perhaps Obama’s greatest betrayal has been the steadfast refusal to charge the Bush Gang with their War & anti-Constituti onal crimes. Till that is done, US Justice is moot.
+1 # kumquat 2013-07-16 10:58
Quoting Kootenay Coyote:
Perhaps Obama’s greatest betrayal has been the steadfast refusal to charge the Bush Gang with their War & anti-Constitutional crimes. Till that is done, US Justice is moot.

Comeon Coyote,,, remember who we are talking about.. the corporate wish to kill 2 bil;lion of us and keep all theat's left of the earth. Even saying he will put them on tiral would be suicide; please, don't imagine he isn't aware of the danger to his wife and daughters...I am positive that this president (and all presidents since JFK) is painfully aware of his own "accidental" assassination if they try it. How can you forget the viciousness of the GOP from the moment our deviants in SCOTUS installed them in order that they could carry out the end game of the 30 + year Reagan/Bush master plan. Go to Youtube and watch "the speech that got JFK killed"... then remember Paul Wellstone and and just put two and two together.
+3 # bmiluski 2013-07-16 11:03
To what end? President Obama can't even get a jobs bill that would have given jobs to thousands of American men and women passed by the bush gang supporters.
+5 # Kathymoi 2013-07-16 10:11
We the people of our country are not out numbered. We are out moneyed but if we come together in unity, we may be able to recreate a government by the people for the people of the people. I think, before we get together in small groups to confront multinational corporation owners and get stun gunned and arrested, we need to come together, just us together, and affirm our togetherness. Song is a strong unifier. Remember in the 60's there were popular folk songs that everyone knew and sang together? We need that kind of really peaceful, coherent, non confrontive, unity building among ourselves. We are the people. We are the world, in fact, and we need to come together and know ourselves as "us". ---You know what? The billionaires have been getting together, just them, in regular meetings to affirm their togetherness and to make their plans and set their goals for decades. We too need to come together and know ourselves as a group with united goals, just among ourselves first.
+3 # kumquat 2013-07-16 11:16
Only this time.. their plans are so far advanced, they ARE the CIA-ruled government and a military mere mortals cannot withstand ... they keep SAYING they need to get rid of 2 billion of us!! Never forget what these guys are... what they're up to and how they value us far less than already-chewed gum. And NEVER forget how the transfer/sale of this nation's prisons, the destruction of public education, utilities, civilian police force and so much you can't count it all..With their military might and distorting neighborhood police into an invading army targeting citizens... you have to know what is going on here... and who stands to lose... the citizens America was created as a democracy and until 2000, we had made such progress we inspired the whole world... our founding documents and principles have inspired the desire of people to live free.. which can only happen in a funtioning democracy...the y KNOW what theocracy is and are smart enough to NEVER go back to it. Just as early Americans did, they understand that to gain freedom from the Tyrants some of us will die in the struggle.They seek life under sectarian rule even as we are being drowned in a tub full of religious cults who think democracy means they get to force the majority of Americans to live under their own already VICIOUS American Shariia laws......
+3 # angelfish 2013-07-16 11:03
Bush and Cheney are two of the most Mendacious, Incompetent Officials to have EVER been elected to Public Office! WHY have they NOT been charged with the War Crimes they inflicted on Afghanistan and other Middle Eastern States? They are ALSO responsible for the maiming and murder of THOUSANDS of our Military, not to mention Civilian men, women and children! WHERE is Justice?
+4 # bmiluski 2013-07-16 12:58
They were NOT incompetent. They set out to make billions for themselves and their cronnies and they suceeded.
+4 # Paul Scott 2013-07-16 14:47
5 years past the Bush/Cheney raping of the world and the bastard's still lying about it?
+1 # dusty 2013-07-16 21:50
if one looks back to the breakup of the Soviet Union then the desire for US hegemony becomes clear and the actions of the US military-indust rial-intelligen ce complex have worked ceaselessly since then to control both external and "internal" threats and to make use of any event as provocation to use military clandestine operations to attack.
+2 # pernsey 2013-07-17 14:13
Dingleberry and Darth Vader are still kicking around huh? These 2 are pathetic. They ruined the country and now Fox News is blaming Obama for all these idiots mistakes. Why wasnt Hannity and Fox news screaming for blood when these 2 morons were lying out their asses? They were to busy covering for their sorry butts thats where!

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