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MacAskill reports: "The White House promised a comprehensive series of measures, including gun control legislation, on Monday to prevent a recurrence of mass shootings such as the 'horrific' attack in Connecticut that left 20 children and six teachers dead."

President Barack Obama speaks at an interfaith vigil for the shooting victims from Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 16, 2012 at Newtown High School in Newtown, Connecticut. (photo: Getty Images)
President Barack Obama speaks at an interfaith vigil for the shooting victims from Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 16, 2012 at Newtown High School in Newtown, Connecticut. (photo: Getty Images)


White House: Obama Will Act Swiftly on Gun Control

By Ewen MacAskill, Guardian UK

18 December 12

 

 

First signs that Democrats are willing to take on pro-gun lobby as even NRA-endorsed senator Joe Manchin says 'we need action'

he White House promised a comprehensive series of measures, including gun control legislation, on Monday to prevent a recurrence of mass shootings such as the "horrific" attack in Connecticut that left 20 children and six teachers dead.

The pledge came as the first cracks began to appear in the seemingly impregnable opposition to gun controls. Less than 24 hours after Barack Obama signalled that gun control would be a second term priority during a powerful speech on Sunday evening at a vigil for the victims in Newtown, at least two Democratic senators strongly identified with gun rights shifted position in favour of reform.

The killings in Connecticut appear to be bringing about a change in mood that was not evident after shooting sprees over the last decade. They include Virginia Tech in 2007, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords last year and the Aurora cinema shootings in July this year.

The White House spokesman, Jay Carney, at the daily briefing went further than Obama the night before in elaborating on what kind of measures might be taken.

At the emotional vigil in Newtown, Obama appeared to abandon his reluctance to take on the gun lobby and delivered an impassioned speech in which he said change had to come.

Addressing an audience of about 900 local people, including about 15 families of victims, at Newtown high school he talked about the disaster at Sandy Hook elementary school, in which "20 beautiful children and six remarkable adults" had died.

Asking if the country had fulfilled its obligation to protect its children, he said: "The answer is no."

He added: "In the coming weeks I'll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens from law enforcement, mental health professionals to parents and educators in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this."

He did not specify what change he had in mind, or even whether it would include new legislation on gun control.

But Carney, when asked what kind of measures the president had in mind, said: "It is a complex problem that will require a complex solution. No single piece of legislation, no single action will fully address the problem."

Proposals that have been put forward since Friday range from the renewal of a lapsed ban on automatic and semi-automatic weapons and restricting the number of bullets in a clip. Other proposals suggest addressing how communities deal with mental health issues.

Asked if gun control legislation would be part of this comprehensive package, Carney said it would be.

Carney pointed out that Obama had long been an advocate of "common sense measures". Before his election in 2008, Obama had supported renewal of a 1994 ban on automatic weapons that lapsed in 2004.

Asked whether the president would move to exploit the present mood or wait until he had dealt with issues such as the fiscal cliff standoff and immigration reform, Carney suggested the former, reminding reporters that Obama had spoken in terms of "weeks".

The hopes of gun reform advocates rose when two Democratic senators, Joe Manchin and Mark Warner, came out in favour of reform. Both had been staunchly in favour of gun rights.

Manchin, in particular, was a surprise, given that he uses a picture of himself holding a rifle in his campaign literature, is backed by the National Rifle Association and, to publicise his opposition to trade legislation, once fired a shot through a copy of the bill.

Manchin, who represents West Virginia, told MSNBC's Morning Joe show that the Connecticut shooting had changed the dialogue.

"It's time to move beyond rhetoric. We need to sit down and have a common sense discussion and move in a reasonable way. This has changed the dialogue and it should move beyond dialogue � we need action," Manchin said.

He argued it was possible to protect gun ownership for hunting while banning other automatic weapons and large ammunition clips.

"I don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle," Manchin said. "I don't know anyone that needs 30 rounds to go hunting. I mean these are things that need to be talked about."

Warner, in an interview with CBS, expressed continued support for the constitutional right to bear arms as enshrined in the second amendment.

"I believe every American has second amendment rights; the ability to hunt is part of our culture. I've had a NRA rating of an 'A' but, you know, enough is enough," Warner said. "I think most of us realise that there are ways to get to rational gun control. There are ways to grapple with the obvious challenges of mental illness."

While opposition to gun controls is strongest in the Republican party, part of the reason for the failure to get legislation through recently has been opposition from many Democrats fearful of upsetting the gun lobby.

The Democratic leader in the Senate, Harry Reid, normally an opponent of attempts to reform gun laws, including a no vote in 2004 to extend the ban on automatic weapons, also shifted ground. Speaking on the floor of the chamber, he said every idea must be on the table. "We need to accept the reality that we are not doing enough to protect our citizens," he said.

His normal opposition to attempts to introduce gun regulations had won him the backing of the NRA up until this year, when it did not endorse him in the November Senate race.

The first obstacle to getting legislation through is winning over Democrats such as Reid, Warner and Manchin. The next stage is winning over at least some Republican support.

Republicans have largely been lying low. The Guardian approached 28 strongly pro-gun Republican senators, all of them with 'A' grades from the NRA, and most declined to respond.

Republican senator Richard Shelby, normally a hardline supporter of gun rights, did not hint at any shift but did at least express a polite willingness to engage. A spokesman for the senator from Alabama said: "He believes we must consider any proposals very carefully."

Another Republican senator, Johnny Isakson, went further, expressing support for a broad inquiry into the whole issue.

"After 9/11, we came together to see what we could do to prevent another attack. The work of the 9/11 commission made flying safer and has helped us prevent another hijacking of a US plane by terrorists. We should evaluate in a thoughtful process gun safety, mental health, school security and all other components that contributed to this horrendous act of violence," Isakson said in a statement to the Guardian.

The Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein, who led the push for the ban on automatic weapons in 1994, said on Sunday she will introduce a similar bill in January next year that will ban automatic and semi-automatic weapons and the sale of clips containing multiple bullets.

Another Democratic senator, Chuck Schumer, is proposing to restrict bullet clips to 10 rounds.

Another Democratic congresswoman, Carolyn McCarthy, whose husband was killed in a shooting spree, called for background checks on all gun sales, in particular at gun shows which are not subjected to such checks.

A new poll in the Washington Post/ABC showed a shift in attitudes, with a majority, albeit slim, now viewing the shooting not as an isolated act but part of society's wider problems.

But there is little change in views towards gun control. While a majority favour a ban on ammunition clips containing a large number of bullets, the poll shows support for gun ownership remains ingrained in America, with 71% opposed to a ban on the sale of handguns.

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+30 # chrisconno 2018-05-20 10:24
With a torturer heading the CIA now what are we supposed to expect? Thank you Kiriakou for your sacrifice. Our country seems to be head over heels in love with intrigue more than world stability and the republicans are the great scammers of all time. I don't need to know all the gory details to know we are on the wrong side, the for profit side, in too many conflicts that we have created for the sake of ever more profits. We are the bad seed claiming all others to be the rotten ones.
 
 
+6 # elkingo 2018-05-20 16:27
Right cc. Capitalism gobbles human lives for profit. Always has.
 
 
+23 # elizabethblock 2018-05-20 10:48
Does torture work? Well, it depends on what you're trying to do.
It destroys bodies and souls. It is a powerful recruiting tool for the enemies of the U.S. It extracts false information. It was someone being tortured who said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. That's what the torturers wanted to hear, so that's what the torturee told them. (If Saddam Hussein had had WMDs, don't you think he would have used them?)
 
 
+18 # Dale 2018-05-20 10:48
 
 
+1 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2018-05-20 18:36
Dale -- yes, I agree 100%.

Also relevant to right now is operatino Glaudio, the CIA's covert op to rig elections in Europe from the late 1940s up through the 80s. The CIA got so good at election rigging that it began doing the same thing in the US. Now we have the CIA's meddling in the Trump campaign and its use of Stefan Halper, a long time election rigger, to develop plans to overthrow Trump. The war is coming home, but it has always been at home.
 
 
+26 # PABLO DIABLO 2018-05-20 10:59
THANK YOU. And, YES, keep up the fight. We need you.
 
 
+15 # DrD 2018-05-20 11:04
Thank you John
If you would like to support John for his selfless efforts to fight against torture see the link below.
https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/p/salsa/donation/common/public/?donate_page_KEY=11468
 
 
+19 # futhark 2018-05-20 11:59
Watching the 1977 TV mini-series "Roots" this past week has once again brought to mind the casual acceptance by European-Americ ans of the day of the atrocity that was slavery. It now seems incredible that people could live comfortably with their consciences, while at the same time exercising what amounted to a reign of terror over others disadvantaged by their skin pigmentation and geographic origin.

Now we have officers of the federal government, no less, who have used torture as a means to reveal what passes for "truth".

Anyone comfortable with this situation must be totally lacking in empathy and ignorant of testimony that those under torture tend to tell the torturer what they think the torturer wants to hear, not necessarily the truth.

I take personal offense in having my government employing such grossly unethical, inefficient, and unreliable means to gather information.
 
 
+5 # Salus Populi 2018-05-20 20:23
Unfortunately, a poll taken in Dec. 2012, the most recent I'm aware of, indicated that around 54 per cent of respondents with opinions -- or six out of eleven -- were in favor of torture, considering it either "always justified" or "sometimes justified." [YouGov Omnibus Poll]

Brainwashing in the United States of Amnesia [Gore Vidal's felicitous expression] is alive and well. I don't think any other country on Earth combines such a supercilious and arrogant attitude among the educated with such abysmal ignorance of what is really going on. We swim like fish in a propaganda ocean, all unawares of the sewage that makes up our _gestalt_.
 
 
-26 # RLF 2018-05-20 12:02
Seems like a legitimate criticism that K. is working for a serious Russian outlet but not knowing the content of the pieces leaves me unable to comment further.
 
 
+16 # AldoJay69 2018-05-20 12:27
DON'T QUIT!
 
 
+6 # DudeistPriest 2018-05-20 12:36
America needs a regime change, and voting isn't going to bring it. What is needed is more than a political change. The military-indust rial-security-f inancial complex needs to be destroyed, and only a real revolution will bring it about. I believe that it is not so far away, and that a military defeat with high casualties will bring it about. With F*ing Moron's foreign policy it could happen any day now.
 
 
+20 # DudeistPriest 2018-05-20 12:37
Thank you, John. You are a true hero. I listen to "Loud And Clear" every day.
 
 
0 # glyde 2018-05-20 16:32
Quoting DudeistPriest:
Thank you, John. You are a true hero. I listen to "Loud And Clear" every day.

Which station (channel?) in Los Angeles, please?
 
 
+2 # JKiriakou 2018-05-21 12:50
Thanks for your support! We stream at www.sputniknews.com, and we're a podcast at iTunes, iHeartRadio, and Spreaker. In the DC area, we're on from 4:00-6:00 pm at 105.5 FM and 1390 AM Monday through Friday.
 
 
+1 # DudeistPriest 2018-05-21 13:25
Radio Sputnik. It's also available as a podcast. It's my #1 news source.
 
 
+1 # DudeistPriest 2018-05-21 13:33
https://sputniknews.com/radio_loud_and_clear/
 
 
+1 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2018-05-21 20:29
glyde -- you can stream it or listen to back shows on Sputnik's website -- https://sputniknews.com/

Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page.
 
 
+3 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2018-05-20 18:33
So do I -- well, not every day but often. It is very good.

I really pity people who listen to NPR or watch MSNBC or CNN or Fox. They don't know what they are missing. It is also very ironic that it takes a Russian owned station to do this. Sputnik offers OK salaries, healthcare, retirement, and other benefits -- not things that small media outlets often do.
 
 
+3 # Kootenay Coyote 2018-05-20 14:35
 
 
+6 # Benign Observer 2018-05-20 14:58
Ed Schultz, a great labor reporter who was fired from MSNBC, went to work for RT. He said MSNBC's head, Phil Griffin, often told him what to report on, what he couldn't cover (he was yanked from Sanders' presidential announcement five minutes before an interview), and even how to slant stories.

He says he has never been told what he can or can't cover while working at RT.
 
 
+4 # windhorse 2018-05-20 15:46
I just finished reading Kiriakou's book, "The Reluctant Spy". An insightful and revealing account of the how the CIA manipulates public opinion and politicians to carry out their agenda. If you want to support him in what he does, consider getting it.
http://www.johnkiriakou.com/books/the-reluctant-spy/
 
 
+5 # krazykwiltkatt 2018-05-20 15:49
The CIA has brought us many 'gifts' from regime changes to MK Ultra and 'Mockingbird' which specifically targeted news outlets. Anyone reading the declassified 'Northwoods' operation (vetoed by JFK) might draw an eerie preview of 9/11, an event whose many vectors have Still not been addressed by the official media, let alone the bulk of citizens. Good luck USA as the creeping Fascism slowly strangles your voice. PS Gina Haspel: Even Elizabeth I's spymaster Sir Francis Walsingham in the 16th century knew torture did not produce accurate information. Therefore the only conclusion one can draw from the use of torture is that it is used to verify 'false' information. It's all 'fake news' now.
 
 
+5 # elkingo 2018-05-20 16:22
Yeah John, we need you. And I need hardly tell you to watch your ass.
 
 
+5 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2018-05-20 18:30
I actually listen to John's Radio Sputnik show quite often. Radio Sputnik is on FM 105.5 where I live. He's on with Brian Becker of the Answer Coalition. Their show is really good. Both are very well informed. Becker is good because he used to run travel programs to N. Korea for people who were interested. He's been there many times. He offers a good anecdote for the mass media's lies about N. Korea.

The American Deep State hates Sputnik and RT because they often have very good programs, something totally absent from US TV and Radio.

I have no doubt that the CIA planted this story in the New Republic. They do this in very many media outlets. This is part of how the American oligarchs rule. They can plant fake news anywhere they like, though they seem to prefer the NYT or Wapo, but any publication from New York works just fine.
 
 
0 # Angels 2018-05-23 04:44
I firmly believe there are many organizations that are infiltrated with various law enforcement undercovers. I also believe these law enforcement people have a long and overpowering reach into every aspect of our lives. People do not want to believe this because it is totally frightening...
 

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