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Intro: Kuala Lumpur the War Crimes Tribunal has convicted former US President George W. Bush and seven of his associates as war criminals for torture and inhumane treatment of war crime victims at US military facilities."

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and five others have been convicted by Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal of war crimes. (photo: k000t2002/flicker)
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and five others have been convicted by Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal of war crimes. (photo: k000t2002/flicker)



War Tribunal Finds Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld Guilty of War Crimes

By Common Dreams

14 May 12

 

Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal orders reparations be given to torture victims.

ormer US President George W Bush, his Vice-President Dick Cheney and six other members of his administration have been found guilty of war crimes by a tribunal in Malaysia.

Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal president judge Tan Sri Lamin Mohd Yunus (center) delivering the verdict yesterday. He says reparations should be given to the complainant war crime victims. With him are Prof Salleh Buang (left) and Datuk Mohd Sa’ari Yusof. (Photo/Hasriyasyah Sabudin) Bush, Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and five of their legal advisers were tried in their absence and convicted on Saturday.

Victims of torture told a panel of five judges in Kuala Lumpur of their suffering at the hands of US soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Among the evidence, Briton Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee, said he was beaten, put in a hood and left in solitary confinement. Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi said she was stripped and humiliated in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.

Transcripts of the five-day trial will be sent to the chief prosecutor at the International Criminal Court, the United Nations and the Security Council.

A member of the prosecution team, Professor Francis Boyle of Illinois University’s College of Law, said he was hopeful that Bush and his colleagues could soon find themselves facing similar trials elsewhere in the world.

The eight accused are Bush; former US Vice President Richard Cheney; former US Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld; former Counsel to Bush, Alberto Gonzales; former General Counsel to the Vice President, David Addington; former General Counsel to the Defense Secretary, William Haynes II; former Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo.

Tribunal president judge Tan Sri Lamin Mohd Yunus said the eight accused were also individually and jointly liable for crimes of torture in accordance with Article 6 of the Nuremberg Charter. "The US is subject to customary international law and to the principles of the Nuremberg Charter and exceptional circumstances such as war, instability and public emergency cannot excuse torture."

The Star (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) reports:

Bush Found Guilty of War Crimes

KUALA LUMPUR: The War Crimes Tribunal has convicted former US President George W. Bush and seven of his associates as war criminals for torture and inhumane treatment of war crime victims at US military facilities.

However, being a tribunal of conscience, the five-member panel chaired by tribunal president judge Lamin Mohd Yunus had no power to enforce or impose custodial sentence on the convicted eight.

"We find the witnesses, who were victims placed in detention illegally by the convicted persons and their government, are entitled to payment of reparations," said Lamin at a public hearing held in an open court at the Kuala Lumpur Foundation to Criminalize War yesterday.

He added that the tribunal’s award of reparations would be submitted to the War Crimes Commission and recommended the victims to find a judiciary entity that could enforce the verdict.

The tribunal would also submit the finding and records of the proceedings to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, the United Nations’ Security Council.

On Thursday, head of the prosecution Prof Gurdial Singh Nijar said Bush had issued an executive order to commit war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Five former Iraqi detainees, who were tortured while being detained in various prisons, including Guantanamo Bay, were called to give their testimonies before the Tribunal during the trial which started on May 7.

The Malaysia Sun reports:

[...] In a unanimous vote on Saturday the symbolic Malaysian war crimes tribunal, part of an initiative by former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad, found the former US President guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Former Malaysian Premier Mahatir Mohamad said of Bush and others: "These are basically murderers and they kill on large scale."Seven of his former political associates, including former Vice President Dick Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, were also found guilty of war crimes and torture.

Press TV has reported the court heard evidence from former detainees in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay of torture methods used by US soldiers in prisons run by the American forces.

One former inmate described how he had been subjected to electric shocks, beatings and sexual abuse over a number of months.

A high ranking former UN official, former UN Assistant Secretary General, Denis Halliday, who also attended the trial, later told Press TV that the UN had been too weak during the Bush administration to enforce the Geneva Conventions.

He said: "The UN is a weak body, corrupted by member states, who use the Security Council for their own interests. They don't respect the charter. They don't respect the international law. They don't respect the Geneva Conventions... A redundant, possibly a dangerous, and certainly corrupted organization."

Following the hearing, former Malaysian premier Mahatir said of Bush and others: "These are basically murderers and they kill on large scale."

It was the second so-called war crimes tribunal in Malaysia.

The token court was first held in November 2011 during which Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair were found guilty of committing "crimes against peace" during the Iraq war.

 

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+121 # cadan 2012-05-14 07:29
The Malaysian court did the right thing.

I imagine this will be largely ignored in the west---the media in fact had a news blackout on earlier attempts to get Bush impeached---but thanks RSN for reporting it.
 
 
+5 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-14 11:07
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+70 # NanFan 2012-05-14 11:26
This is a day that will go down in history. I have been waiting for this day, working for this day, for years! And to have this conviction sent to the Hague and the UN is stunning!! and right on!!

Feet to the fire they started themselves, not caring about anyone or anything but their power.

I am in a state of GLEE!! Bravo to Malaysia. I only wonder where Condo Rice is. Why wasn't she found guilty?

It's time for the rest of the world to follow this example, and hold these tribunals against Bush-administra tion criminals who truly RUINED the world and are still living in luxury and hubris, without anyone holding them accountable, until now.

N.
 
 
+19 # CandH 2012-05-14 12:55
Yes, after all, Rice was one of The Vulcans. Who are they? Here's the tame version of what/who they were: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vulcans. Do the math as to who/what they were REALLY about, particularly after these said events in Kuala Lumpur.
 
 
+16 # Pickwicky 2012-05-15 14:52
Why isn't Colin Powell among the convicted?
 
 
+1 # fdawei 2012-05-17 20:12
Pickwicky...Yes ,I agree. Where's the conviction for the guy who said this was a "slam dunk?" Also Condo Rice should have been included among those convicted.
 
 
+70 # pernsey 2012-05-14 07:48
You can see what the verdict would be, when the courts and media arent being paid off to shut up. The Malaysian courts got it right.
 
 
+79 # Carol R 2012-05-14 07:54
I was thrilled to read this article. I've sent it to friends in Kuala Lumpur and wonder what comments I'll get back from them. None of my friends supported George W.

It is good that the crimes of the war haven't been forgotten by the rest of the world, even if they can be swept under the rug by politics in this country.
 
 
+58 # luvdoc 2012-05-14 08:01
May these American war criminals suffer their own special hell. May they reap all that they have sown. May they live with the ghosts of 'the collaterals.' luvdoc
 
 
+69 # DaveM 2012-05-14 08:13
A brave and long-overdue move. One can only hope for a similar investigation by a ruling body which has some judicial power. With any luck, the International Criminal Court will in due course take up the cause.
 
 
+57 # spanky 2012-05-14 08:23
"Power corrupts." It's unfortunate that the American public is so easily led by fear tactics into giving up its values. The home of the brave? Hardly.
 
 
+6 # Pickwicky 2012-05-15 14:53
The home of the knaves.
 
 
+45 # CoyoteMan50 2012-05-14 08:43
I'm just happy to see any nation would indict Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld.
The put a huge black mark on the US that will take years to erase.
Sorry it couldn't be a US,Canadian or UK court indicting them.
 
 
+45 # jwb110 2012-05-14 08:59
I want the reparations to come from the war criminal's personal funds. That is a real message.
 
 
+23 # Dale 2012-05-14 09:05
We need the present day equivalent of the 1060s Bertrand Russell War Crimes trial of the U.S. war crimes in Vietnam--and it should be in the U.S. with noted jurists or if that is not possible in Europe
 
 
+55 # pernsey 2012-05-14 09:12
The picture of this terrible trio still sends chills down my spine. They literally in 8 years ruined this country.
 
 
+35 # MEBrowning 2012-05-14 09:52
Amen. Why Republican voters in this country can't or won't see that is a crime in itself.
 
 
+29 # NanFan 2012-05-14 11:32
Quoting pernsey:
The picture of this terrible trio still sends chills down my spine. They literally in 8 years ruined this country.


Agree...very creepy to see them again. What they did not only ruined the US, it crippled the world, and the results of their actions continue to take and take and take and foul and foul and foul everything and everyone.

ARREST! INDICT! CONVICT! IMPRISON!
 
 
+2 # Pickwicky 2012-05-15 14:54
Will this country recover?
 
 
+35 # chuckw38 2012-05-14 09:56
AT LAST !!!! Now, how will these War Criminals be MADE TO ACCOUNT for their War Crimes?? Ignore them? Make them sit in the corner??? Take their cookies away??? Or... will these people TRULY be Held to Account??? And I DO mean HELD-TO-ACCOUNT ??!!!!????
 
 
+27 # propsguy 2012-05-14 10:08
hopefully, other countries will get on this bandwagon!
 
 
-43 # Michael_K 2012-05-14 10:25
I find it quite chilling and it gives me pause and it bodes ill for the future of the US, to see all these comments rightly lamenting the criminality of the preceding Bush/Cheney Republican administration, whilst steadfastly REFUSING to acknowledge the equally criminal actions of the Obama administration under the pretext that he's nominally a Democratic candidate. Y'all make me sick to my stomach... Party over Country, eh?
 
 
+19 # kyzipster 2012-05-14 10:44
This article isn't about Obama's crimes and I've seen plenty of heated criticism of these crimes at RSN. Your logic makes me sick.
 
 
-36 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-14 11:03
His logic is fine with me; it's Obama and his war crimes which makes me sick.
 
 
+49 # MEBrowning 2012-05-14 14:15
Obama didn't start the war, bluepilgrim. Bush & Co. and their neocon cohorts deserve 100% of the credit for that. They were itching for a fight, and 9/11 was their "trifecta" — remember? They needed a "Pearl Harbor-like incident" to galvanize Americans into supporting a war to keep the Military-Indust rial complex happy and keep the oil flowing westward. That is not to say that many Democrats in Congress are blameless for their part in the war. But I believe with all my heart that if a Democratic president had been in power on 9/11, we wouldn't have gone to Iraq, we wouldn't be in Afghanistan today, and we might even have averted what happened on that terrible day altogether.
 
 
+8 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-14 16:24
Democrats supported it -- they voted for it. Obama started the war with Pakistan -- and it is a war -- escalated the war in Afghanistan, and started the war against Libya. Democrats also are wagin war on other African nations, like Yemen.

Obama and his Democrats also trashed the constitution and civil rights, going right along with Bush -- who he let off the hook.

I don't want to hear these miserable excuses. They don't hold up, but just point up that the moral depravity of the Democrats is just as nasty as with the Republicans. You can 'believe in your heart' all you want -- tell that to the Libyans and the victims of the drones. The facts are the facts.

Do I remeber the crap around 9/11? Sure do. I spoke against attacking Afghanistan, and was out on the street protesting going to war on Iraq. And you know something -- I got all kinds of crap for doing that, and everyone weas making excuses, but now, ten years later, people are finally waking up to the fact that we were right all along -- but still resist the truth, kicking and screaming, because they still don't want to hear the truth about both parties being instruments of the plutocracy and their empire.
 
 
-22 # Michael_K 2012-05-15 07:43
"miserable excuses" are all I hear from so-called Democrats who are hell-bent on re-electing a fascist lying criminal, telling us "he'll still be better than the exploitative capitalist pig on the other side" (completely ignoring his comparatively benign record, next to Obama's). I advocate voting Republican for President, and Democrat for everything else. Hopefully we can achieve complete gridlock, neutralizing all these evil creatures until we can re-group with a new progressive party.
 
 
+2 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-15 08:46
Nah -- voting for a Republican gangster is no better. If you are going to vote then vote for someone worthy.

I'm voting for Jerry White of the Socialist Equity Party (probably have to write him in), but there are others people can vote for who are not criminals or fascists.

It's important to know that the two-party duopoly is NOT all there is, and we are NOT constrained to vote for part of that. We CAN vote for decent people. (We will still need to do most of the work on the streets and in other actions, of course -- including rebuilding society both locally and networked in national organization.)

You put a Republican in for president and Democrats in Congress and you will still end up with the fascists being in charge, and they will cooperate enough to do more evil -- don't we see the Democratic president cooperating with the Republicans, at least under the surface, to pursue fascist imperialism?
 
 
-7 # Elusive Pimpernel 2012-05-15 14:47
In the meantime, until a "progressive party" is elected, you need to help the groundswell for Ron Paul, a non-criminal and proven advocate of human rights as well as constitutional rights.
 
 
+15 # MEBrowning 2012-05-16 10:48
Unless you're a woman.
 
 
+7 # MEBrowning 2012-05-15 22:06
You're not the only one who took to the streets to protest the war. I did, too, and more. And you're not alone in your dislike for Obama and many elected Democrats. But voting third-party in 2012 is not the magic elixir that will solve our problems. Not this year. Remember Ralph Nader in 2000 and 2004? Look what that got us.

One huge problem with people on the left is that they disagree with each other on just about everything, often in destructive, rather than constructive, ways. Your post above is an example. Your veiled insults actually distance you from potential allies rather than bring them on board. Republican voters, on the other hand, will march in lockstep to whatever drumbeat the Limbaugh/Fox/No rquist machine spews out. It's a lesson we progressives must learn. Until we do, we will continue to enable the plutocracy.
 
 
+4 # kyzipster 2012-05-15 19:23
I wasn't defending Obama, I was criticizing his critique of this forum. I've seen excellent debate at RSN between liberals about the Obama Administration, both pro and con.
 
 
-2 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-14 14:06
Note the negative votes on our comments -- now 07 for you and -4 for mine below -- apparently from people who support war crimes as long as a democrat does them.

For those wondering what's what's wring with this country and why it sunk into such a moral pit, here's your answer. It's not a matter of condemming the crimes, but the politician who is from the 'other' party.

As if someone in some other country whose family members were blown up, or shot, or captured and tortured, cared what party the US 'commander in chief' belonged to.

Expect a lot more blowback, and expect it to be directed at all Americans, regardless of party or the fine words they spout as they go about their mass murder and torture.

And expect the nation to continue to sink into the swamp and destroy itself because of the evil actions in preference to doing the right thing for people both abroad and right here at home. The US has become a nation of criminals, and it's everywhere.
 
 
+38 # OligarchyNot 2012-05-14 15:35
Quoting Michael_K:
I find it quite chilling and it gives me pause and it bodes ill for the future of the US, to see all these comments rightly lamenting the criminality of the preceding Bush/Cheney Republican administration, whilst steadfastly REFUSING to acknowledge the equally criminal actions of the Obama administration under the pretext that he's nominally a Democratic candidate. Y'all make me sick to my stomach... Party over Country, eh?


I haven't heard anything about Obama ordering the torture of prisoners of war in violation of the Geneva Convention. Bush not only did the things he's been found guilty of, he bragged about it. Obama is simply dealing with the aftermath of the chaos Bush reaped upon the world.
 
 
+4 # bluepilgrim 2012-05-14 17:07
You having not heard does not mean it isn't happening. I've seen a fair number of reports about it, and the black sites, renditions, etc. There are also some things right in the open, such as the torturous treatment of Bradley Manning.

Obviously, these are not widely reported in the state/corporate media, but you can find it at various foreign and alternative news sites. One can't rely on 'main stream' news to find what is really happening.
 
 
+7 # fishmother 2012-05-16 10:29
Sorry to add to your belly ache, but the trio you mentioned started 2 unnecessary wars, took torture to unspeakably gross levels and lied to the American people over and over again about everything from weapons of mass destruction to water boarding without ever mentioning the word oil. So let's get real. They are war criminals. At the same time I am willing to give Bush his due where he's earned it, which is certainly true of PEPFAR. He saved lives with that, but no where near to the number he condemned to death in war, including American military lives.
 
 
+18 # RCW 2012-05-14 17:16
Although I don't expect anything to come of this just charge. I would hope that any suit for reparations be made against each individual "in their person" so that our nation pay no longer for their crimes.
 
 
-6 # James Marcus 2012-05-15 08:40
So...Will arrests, charges, and prosecution follow?
As all have here noted. This is only one tip of the Iceberg.
Obama is also guilty. Even More So, as he has more brains than all three combined. Therefore, his actions, mimicking theirs, is more calculated and deliberate.
Bush is a moron. You don't punish an 'ignorant child' in anything like the way you hold a responsible adult accountable.
 
 
+20 # Old Man 2012-05-15 09:16
Why did we let this happen? We were asleep at the wheel and let the radical right-wing take this wonderful country and trash it.
Now we ( the older generation ) have left our children in an impossible task of cleaning this mess up.
Oboma 2012.
 
 
+16 # teineitalia 2012-05-15 12:37
pictured above: one village idiot- a dry drunk to boot- and two of the most vile men in history. A pox on all their houses.

Our nation may never recover from the clusterf*ck they created. ( I would add Condie and Wolfowitz to the list)

But we need to try, beginning with electing progressive Democrats up and down the line. The presidency is one man... and the presidency can be stolen (see elections 2000 and 2004)

Congress is where we need to concentrate our money and our effort. Give whoever is president a good, forward thinking, progressive Congress and watch what happens.
 
 
+17 # Elusive Pimpernel 2012-05-15 14:49
The best possible outcome is that the world court delivers a guilty verdict that sends a clear message to President Obama and his successors that the United States is not above the law, American Exceptional-ism be damned. It’s a lesson we’ve forgotten and need to relearn.
 
 
+6 # tuandon 2012-05-16 10:53
As a former Peace Corps Volunteer in Malaysia, I can only say "Itu dia lah! Way to go!"
 
 
+6 # medusa 2012-05-17 07:41
The invasion of LIbya can't be compared to the invasion of Iraq. It wasn't, in the first place, an invasion. It was also international, a "coalition" not in name only. Etc.
It isn't clear to me what has caused such a blunting of Obama's principles, once in office. He has at least got semi-public trials going in Guantanamo. Pray that he will regain courage!
Few public figures swim at the depth of Cheney and Bush.
 
 
+2 # inventing2change 2014-04-02 22:55
ThrowBack To The Following Comment:
"Bring It On" I believe Mr. Bush you have gotten your Wish.....A warrior of Country who's "Leaders are never above the Law" (under a silent oath)
 

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