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Memmott reports: "Army Pfc. Bradley Manning, who was responsible for the largest leak of classified information in U.S. history, was sentenced by a military judge to 35 years in prison."

Bradley Manning receives verdict from Col. Denise Lind. (art: K. Rudin/RSN)
Bradley Manning receives verdict from Col. Denise Lind. (art: K. Rudin/RSN)


Army Hands Down 35 Year Sentence to Bradley Manning

By Mark Memmott, NPR

21 August 13

 

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Scott Galindez for RSN reports Manning will be eligible for parole after serving one third of his sentence. With time served that could mean roughly 10 years.

ACLU Comment on Bradley Manning Sentence

"When a soldier who shared information with the press and public is punished far more harshly than others who tortured prisoners and killed civilians, something is seriously wrong with our justice system. A legal system that doesn't distinguish between leaks to the press in the public interest and treason against the nation will not only produce unjust results, but will deprive the public of critical information that is necessary for democratic accountability. This is a sad day for Bradley Manning, but it's also a sad day for all Americans who depend on brave whistleblowers and a free press for a fully informed public debate."

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rmy Pfc. Bradley Manning, who was responsible for the largest leak of classified information in U.S. history, was sentenced by a military judge to 35 years in prison Wednesday, according to reporters covering the trial at Fort Meade, MD. He'll get about 3 1/2 years' credit for time he's already spent behind bars.

More details (added at 10:30 a.m. ET):

  • Manning is also to be dishonorably discharged.

  • The maximum sentence possible was 90 years.

  • Prosecutors had asked that he be given 60 years.

  • Manning's defense asked for a 25-year sentence.

  • Manning's lawyer plans to speak to the news media at 1:30 p.m. ET.

Also: "Manning's sentence will automatically be sent to the Army Court of Criminal Appeals," The New York Times adds. "Before the next phase can begin, the entire court-martial proceedings must be turned into an official transcript, which both the defense and prosecution, as well as the judge, must approve; that process is expected to take considerable time. Pretrial hearings started in 2012, and the trial itself began in early June."

Our original post follows.

Army Pfc. Bradley Manning, the former intelligence analyst responsible for the largest leak of classified information in U.S. history, is to learn Wednesday just how many decades he'll be sentenced to serve behind bars.

Manning faces a maximum sentence of 90 years in prison for the crimes he committed in 2010. Prosecutors, as the Associated Press reports, have asked that he be put away for at least 60 years. "The defense," adds the AP, "has suggested a prison term of no more than 25 years, so that Manning, 25, could rebuild his life. Defense attorney David Coombs asked for a sentence that 'doesn't rob him of his youth.' "

Earlier this week, Manning told the military judge at Fort Mead, Md., that "I'm sorry I hurt people. ... I'm sorry that I hurt the United States. I'm apologizing for the unexpected results of my actions. The last three years have been a learning experience for me."

The judge has said she plans to begin spelling out Manning's sentence at 10 a.m. ET. We'll watch for that news and update this post.

Manning was convicted in July of most of the charges he faced, including multiple counts of espionage. But he was acquitted of the most serious: aiding the enemy. As we've previously written, he admitted that in early 2010 he gave WikiLeaks "more than 700,000 documents, including battlefield reports and U.S. Embassy cables."

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+31 # Darthvadersmom 2013-08-21 10:21
Outrageous!
 
 
-2 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-08-21 20:07
Wish I could remember the name of the movie. Dustin Hoffman played the role of an attorney who was paid by the "mob" to defend kids who shot a person who played a role in torturing kids in a boys home. One scene in the movie. One of the kids who "got out" of the boys home was speaking to a "mob" chief. Both were in a park and during the conversation, the mob chief was feeding pidgeons while speaking to the young adult. Young adult to the mob chief:"you like pidgeons." Mob chief: "I like things that don't talk." Manning talked. Mob didn't like that.
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2013-08-21 21:02
Quoting Eldon J. Bloedorn:
Wish I could remember the name of the movie. Dustin Hoffman played the role of an attorney who was paid by the "mob" to defend kids who shot a person who played a role in torturing kids in a boys home. One scene in the movie. One of the kids who "got out" of the boys home was speaking to a "mob" chief. Both were in a park and during the conversation, the mob chief was feeding pidgeons while speaking to the young adult. Young adult to the mob chief:"you like pidgeons." Mob chief: "I like things that don't talk." Manning talked. Mob didn't like that.

Heh-heh! Interesting analogy -especially the Mob bit.
 
 
+35 # brux 2013-08-21 10:27
35 years is a reasonable compromise, better than 90 or 60 years, but Bradley Manning should not have gotten that much, or he should not have to serve that.

Releasing that video alone of civilians being blown away in the street for fun was a public service. Not to mention the other side of this that people who committed real crimes have gotten less sentence.

This is reasonable if he is either released for good behavior, or as I would like to see President Obama pardon him at the end of his term. We need to start getting a clue about the actions our government takes in our names and with our money.
 
 
+7 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-08-21 11:51
A soldier was sentenced for "good bahavior." He should be immediately released for his previous good behavior. And the Imperialists shout at us, "this is the greatest country in the world!" I hear that coarse "slogan" one more time, I'm going to puke.
 
 
+30 # EternalTruth 2013-08-21 13:13
" I would like to see President Obama pardon him at the end of his term."

I'd like to see about half a million of us swarm into DC and refuse to move, shutting the city down until he issues that pardon, along with an apology to Manning as well as the American public.
 
 
0 # Douglas Jack 2013-08-22 06:32
The problem in a SHOW TRIAL, such as Bradley has just gone through including his torture without sleep, the dignity of clothing, in solitary confinement & other life threatening insults for 9 months is the degradation of Bradley's ability to choose. Bradley was presented with David Coombs while in the midst of torture. Bradley was held basically incommunicado (without the ability to contact family & other life-supporters ) under life-threat for long enough to weaken his ability to choose legal representation. Bradley was not able to convene his supporters to research good lawyer representation options & hence Coombs, a firm believer-subscr iber to supposed 'military-justi ce' & asks for 25 years for Bradley's gift to the nation as a truth-teller.

This is the very essence of a show trial, to foist a military representative upon an accused (previously condemned as guilty by Obama) person with a Judge Lind all without the integrity of knowing how UCMJ is subsidiary to the US Constitution, Geneva Convention, Nuremberg Principles, Law of Necessity etc.

These Finance-Media-M ilitary-Industr ial-Complex GOONs (Wiki: A goon is someone that is employed as someone's personal enforcer, such as either a personal bodyguard or a ruffian who is kept on staff to intimidate or batter people.) in full control of all presentations then proceed with their Show Trial. When our ancestors invaded this land, they set the stage for 1000s of years of terminal injustice. www.indigenecommunity.info
 
 
0 # brux 2013-08-30 14:31
I think you are right about the history of western culture and the settling of this country. I recently read some of Lysander Spooner's writings, and the idea that I had never really thought much about before was that no human being should be held responsible to obey, respect or be controlled by situations that were decided before he was born or was conscious enough, educated enough to give consent to. This is a brillant idea, and so important, I think it is the primary new idea of the 21st century.
 
 
+30 # Texas Aggie 2013-08-21 10:52
How many of those years has he already served? And will he be subjected to the same treatment he got during that time he was serving?
 
 
+64 # fredboy 2013-08-21 10:54
The Army sent a message to every yes man and yes woman in its ranks: if you blow the whistle and report wrongdoing you will be severely punished.

The other message: Those who killed innocent civilians and even laughed as ground troops ran over their bodies went free. Perhaps that's the scariest message of all.
 
 
+22 # HowardMH 2013-08-21 12:36
How about adding the Wall Streeter's who screwed millions of families out of their homes and didn't even get a slap on the pinky. Until there are -- oh never mind.
 
 
+22 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:34
Crime is not a crime. Reporting the crime is a crime.
 
 
+61 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-08-21 10:58
The U.S. did not prosecute Bush/ Cheney for war crimes. Would not extradite Bush and Cheney to those countries who wanted to proecute them. Such a sad day for Manning. For the U.S. Yet, when a country like the U.S. takes over the role of Imperialism with the intent of stealing another nation's wealth, natural resources, lots of people get hurt. And the "big fish" who made millions off the wars got away. So sad!
 
 
+18 # 666 2013-08-21 13:53
on a proper scale of justice, 35 years for manning essentially admits that the real war criminals--bush , cheney, obama et al.--should really be kicking up their heels at the end of short rope in the hague
 
 
+4 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:35
the U.S. takes over the role of Imperialism with the intent of stealing another nation's wealth, natural resources, lots of people get hurt.
Very succinct summary
 
 
-2 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-08-21 22:27
The tragedy. Lots of peole who got hurt are dead hurt-our and other nation's young men and women, soldiers, who "paid the ultimate price" for Dick Cheney and George Bush's war wealth.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2013-08-22 21:40
Quoting Eldon J. Bloedorn:
The tragedy. Lots of peole who got hurt are dead hurt-our and other nation's young men and women, soldiers, who "paid the ultimate price" for Dick Cheney and George Bush's war wealth.

So why is EJB getting thumbs-down for this? He's putting it mildly!
Something I must be missin' here!
 
 
-1 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-08-23 11:19
I have a few multiple personalitity sour faces who do not like me. No problem with me.
 
 
+4 # SeniorCitizen31 2013-08-22 10:16
"The U.S. did not prosecute Bush/ Cheney for war crimes. Would not extradite Bush and Cheney to those countries who wanted to proecute them."

Obama didn't prosecute Bush/Cheney.

Obama didn't extradite Bush/Cheney.

Obama did rescue an indicted/convic ted/sentenced CIA kidnapping thug named Lady from extradition to Italy while lecturing Putin on his duty to extradite the unindicted (that we know of) and certainly unconvicted Edward Snowden.

Obama, mind you, that great constitutional lawyer with his much touted academic record at Ivy League schools.
 
 
+24 # Vardoz 2013-08-21 10:58
Poor kid. He took a chance and got nailed.
 
 
+10 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:36
poor United States citizens.
 
 
+18 # Milarepa 2013-08-21 11:01
They've tortured and tried to kill Manning for a long while. Now they think they need 35 years more to torture and try to kill him. Yes, it looks bleak. But somehow I have a feeling something totally unexpected is going to happen to change all this. Who knows, maybe the old Jehovah will actually reach down and smite these infidels. Wring their necks, I hope!
 
 
+4 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:38
Truth has a way of coming out and right has a way of coming back, so there is some small hope.
 
 
+3 # LizR 2013-08-21 17:56
Quoting Milarepa:
They've tortured and tried to kill Manning for a long while. Now they think they need 35 years more to torture and try to kill him. Yes, it looks bleak. But somehow I have a feeling something totally unexpected is going to happen to change all this. Who knows, maybe the old Jehovah will actually reach down and smite these infidels. Wring their necks, I hope!

Dunno about Jeohvah but in a few years he may be seen as another Mandela.
 
 
+31 # treadlightly 2013-08-21 11:06
See what you can do locally to protest this miscarriage of justice. I believe we are at a critical junction and silence is not an option.
 
 
+1 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:38
Do what? What to do? Please reply.
 
 
+25 # jwb110 2013-08-21 11:11
There will be the usual right wing lunatic fringe, which may very well include the President, who will believe this BS and think that Manning got what he deserved. That said, there will be a substantial number of citizens that will question the treatment and the finding of a guilty charge for unmasking an administration that thinks it is OK to portray America and Americans as international bullies.
The rest of the world will also weigh in on this and their jaundiced eye when viewing actions they might have with the US may also have a chilling effect. The legacy of America and Americans is at stake here. The legacy of the President will also be on trial. I hope the people in leadership who are so sure that they "know best" are ready to take that wrap.
Rendition, torture, mass destruction of entire sovereign nations is not the legacy that I as a citizen want to shoulder after the "know bests" retire to their ranches.
 
 
+35 # reiverpacific 2013-08-21 11:19
I've said about as much as I can in Manning's support and admiration for his courage but just need to repeat, in the spirit of the ACLU statement, that the true criminals are walking about free and prospering, their shrinking travel options to other nations to which they are not welcome and who might even snag 'em for trial notwithstanding.
Still this is nothing new in America in which, since it's power and greed-driven, scorched-earth destruction of the nation and it's indigenous peoples, has manipulated it's self-declared sense of justice to the benefit of the wealthy elite, military and their earth-unfriendl y rape of our mother and all our relations.
I only hope that Manning has more luck when he comes up for parole, than Leonard Peltier, consistently denied his freedom for > thirty years in spite of being a model prisoner while enduring brutality, isolation and deprivation of medical treatment for a recently malfunctioning kidney.
Concurrently, US sergeant and Afghani -slaughterer Robert Bales, who has plead guilty in a plea-bargain to avoid the death penalty, will be eligible for parole in 10 or 20 years depending on which account you read. This for the wanton and fully aware murder-rampage of 16 innocent Afghani villagers.
So a courageous whistle blower gets 30 years with parole in 10 (maybe) and a murdering thug (who was seen chuckling over the murders with his wife) gets about the same or less!
"Use every man after his desert, and who should ’scape whipping?"
 
 
+51 # Malcolm 2013-08-21 11:22
Manning's defense asked for A TWENTY-FIVE YEAR SENTENCE???!!!

What a travesty of justice this whole so-called "trial" has been.

The defense should have asked for a frigging honorary PARADE!!!!!

I won't recap all the reasons why-we all know them, I'm sure.
 
 
+10 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:44
I agree. And I don't think Manning should have been held or charged until all the people whose wrong doings were exposed are charged with the crimes they committed and their trials are concluded and they are sentenced. But they aren't being charged, as far as I can tell. The crime has been to expose their crimes.
 
 
0 # EternalTruth 2013-08-21 20:46
I was a little shocked when I read the bullet points too. But if you read further:
"The defense," adds the AP, "has suggested a prison term of no more than 25 years, so that Manning, 25, could rebuild his life. Defense attorney David Coombs asked for a sentence that 'doesn't rob him of his youth.' "

So it sounds like his argument could have been something like, "hey judge, you really ought to let him go and give him a parade, but even if you believe all the prosecution's bullshit, anything over 25 years would be obscene."
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2013-08-21 21:05
Quoting Malcolm:
Manning's defense asked for A TWENTY-FIVE YEAR SENTENCE???!!!

What a travesty of justice this whole so-called "trial" has been.

The defense should have asked for a frigging honorary PARADE!!!!!

I won't recap all the reasons why-we all know them, I'm sure.

Good point.
I wonder if somebody took them aside and whispered sweet threatening nothings in their shell-likes such as "OK boyo, this is what's GOIN" to happen"!
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2013-08-22 21:49
Quoting reiverpacific:
Quoting Malcolm:
Manning's defense asked for A TWENTY-FIVE YEAR SENTENCE???!!!

What a travesty of justice this whole so-called "trial" has been.

The defense should have asked for a frigging honorary PARADE!!!!!

I won't recap all the reasons why-we all know them, I'm sure.

Good point.
I wonder if somebody took them aside and whispered sweet threatening nothings in their shell-likes such as "OK boyo, this is what's GOIN" to happen"!

You just reminded me of Bob Dylan's poem "The lonesome Death of Poor Hattie Carol" in which her society killer-on-a-whi m gets a six month sentence.
A bit upside down but still applicable reciprocally, innit!? Wonder what Dimwits/Cheyney would get in the Hague? There is no sentence other than the old hung, drawn and quartered punishment for stae treason that is suitable in today's repertoire of redress unless they be 'rendered (hoisted by their own petard) to a nation fully aware of and having suffered by, their cynical wanton destruction of humanity, the environment, the economy and that nation's credibility; aye -like the USA, Iraq or Afghanistan. Gitmo is too good for them.
 
 
-4 # Scott Galindez 2013-08-22 06:40
Your being hard on the defense...Remem ber Manning had already pled guilty to lesser offenses that carried 20 years...
 
 
+2 # Douglas Jack 2013-08-22 07:52
Scott, Interesting how as a lawyer, you justify the imprisonment of a War-Crimes Whistleblower acting on humanity's behalf. Does your mind excuse torture, false-represent ation (no choice), a show-trial & now imprisonment of a hero? Oppressive systems have profound impact upon the human mind. Manning pleading guilty to being a 'whistleblower' , without a free choice of representation, without access to his support network, on the edge of suffering 9 months of UN declared torture, doesn't stand up to legal scrutiny. Bradley after years of torture-impriso nment without due process, was unable to give his informed consent to the process which he was 'railroaded' into. Please re-evaluate as a person, lawyer & RSN journalist, how your mind is being impacted & prejudiced. As well you need a re-evaluation of the worldview which informs your decisions. www.indigenecommunity.info
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2013-08-22 16:25
Quoting Scott Galindez:
Your being hard on the defense...Remember Manning had already pled guilty to lesser offenses that carried 20 years...

And yet I wonder, still I wonder, if the defense was taken aside.
It has been known y'know.
Abuse and threatening of witnesses, juries and defense attorneys is nothing new -especially in the FBI COINTELPRO reign of terror on Pine Ridge, non-investigati ons of Indians murdered. -Don't even get me started on the C.I.A.!
And this is the US military we're talking about in all it's shiny-buttoned hubris!
I listened to Chelsea (as he/she now wishes to be called) Manning's attorney on"Democracy Now!" this morning who, to his credit, described at some length how, if a subaltern is compromised, threatened or indicted in some way, is superior officer normally spends a large amount of his waking hours trying to shield, understand and counsel him but in Mannings case, he was thrown to the wolves arraigned against him with the resultant torture, isolation, humiliation and brutalization.
Such as case simply adds homophobia to the list of crimes committed against one who was "different".
If I'd have been that attorney, I'd have rubbed this act of blatant homophobia and further degradation of human rights all over their smug and hostile mooshes!
He did admit -almost it seemed with hesitation- that Chelsea had NOT had a fair hearing.
This is where we miss and need the balls-out, give 'em hell William Kunstlers of earlier times!
 
 
+51 # A Different Drummer 2013-08-21 11:24
I expected nothing less from the criminal cabal that has hijacked our entire legal/military system.

I'm writing with tears pooling, not just for Bradley's continued torture, which is unfathomable for most United States's citizens, but for our nation's founding ideals and documents. Bradley followed US Army orders by reporting war crimes.

I'm a veteran of the US war against the sovereign nations of Vietnam,Cambodi a, Laos and the United States of America.

I was in country during the
mass murder press coverage of one of many war crimes perpetrated by the US military. I'm speaking of the My Lai massacre. I served in a unit that routinely took war trophies. I disciplined several members of my platoon for such barbarity. Needless to say my actions didn't save a single life, and I still don't sleep knowing what I supported. I only wish I had the courage of conviction of Bradley.

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+32 # Brooklynite 2013-08-21 11:28
And the perpetrators of the war crimes that he revealed still are free.

What an evil and foul miscarriage of justice. The U.S.A. has no moral right to do anything except go crawl in shame to some dark hole. (But I guess that would be the dark hole it is taking all of us into, at the bidding of its corporate masters)

Enjoy reading my post NSA.

God help us. God help the planet.
 
 
0 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:48
agree
 
 
+8 # Jack Gibson 2013-08-21 11:47
Although, obviously, it could have been much worse, this sentence of Bradley Manning is a travesty; and, even though he will be eligible for parole in eleven or twelve years, that does not mean that he will be granted parole, and that the federal prison system will not seek to hold him for longer. If one considers the climate against whistleblowers and those allegedly guilty of violating the Espionage Act at the present time, one can well imagine that, since things are only getting worse and worse over time, the climate against those like Bradley Manning will very likely be much worse in ten or twelve years.

All we can reasonably hope for now is that the appeals court and/or other higher courts lower his sentence even more; or, because of the torture and pre-trial punishment that he underwent, it is lowered considerably if not commuted or thrown out. Murderers who are convicted of involuntary manslaughter, and people convicted of rape, get lower sentences. The former, in California for example, often get sentences of no more than six years; of which, with "half-time" good-time credit, they only do three years. The latter, also in California for example, are sentenced to three, six or eight years; of which, again, with good-time credit, they only serve half that time.

- Continued -
 
 
+14 # seeuingoa 2013-08-21 12:23
And the helicopter pilots are still free men !



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Do it as from today as a tribute to Bradley Manning.
 
 
+10 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:53
you left out wal mart, one of the worst!!! Boycott WalMart and shop at a locally owned shop. Get to know the shop owner. Shop for food at farmers markets or small locally owned whole food/organic food markets. Live in accord with the principles you want business to live with. Actually, it's not hard and it feels very good.
 
 
+8 # LizR 2013-08-21 17:57
Quoting seeuingoa:
And the helicopter pilots are still free men !



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Do it as from today as a tribute to Bradley Manning.

Quoted for truth. Copy this post and send it to your friends, maybe it will go viral.
 
 
+12 # intheEPZ 2013-08-21 12:27
No point in voting. The system is rigged. Heroes who speak out in the name of human rights, decency, and the Constitution are thrown in jail, and the real traitors, war criminals, and psychopaths who lust to shoot innocent civilians reap the benefits of their crimes. Disgusting. I'm done with this charade.
 
 
+3 # futhark 2013-08-21 15:58
Don't give up on voting, but tell both the Demo-cans and Republicrats where to shove it. Vote for candidates that think outside the prison cell of the corporations and mainstream media.
 
 
+2 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 17:01
Don't give up on voting, but definitely don't vote for someone supported by the big money reeled in by the democratic party and the republican party. No one who is not a politician wants to run for president, but we need someone who is not a politician to do it. To make it possible to take on the job and to give a person confidence to try it, we need about 99 other people to commit to being advisors, aides, staff, cabinet, vice president, and supportive press. The whole group needs to get together soon and decide to run for president in the next election. Do you have any ideas how to contact some worthy cabinet members like Chris Hedges, Bill Moyers, Bill McKibben??
 
 
+8 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 16:56
Don't vote for a republican or a democrat. Don't vote for someone whose background you don't already know. I think we people need to motivate a group of non politicians who are informed, competent people to support each other in a campaign for president--one for president, one for vice president, some for cabinet members, some for staff members and advisors and all of them committed to work together and stay together for the term of office--to work for the people. We cant vote for someone that either major party selects.
 
 
+13 # futhark 2013-08-21 15:57
Ralph Waldo Emerson eulogized abolitionist John Brown in advance of Brown's execution, saying his fate "...will make the gallows as glorious as the cross."

Bradley Manning is in the position of being made the martyr to the causes of truth, justice, and, what he doubtless thought, the American way.
 
 
+15 # Kathymoi 2013-08-21 17:03
I feel like there was a death. I am grieving ---not only for Bradley Manning whose hope must be very low today, but for all of the United States citizens and for all the world affected by the US government/mili tary.
 
 
-3 # djnova50 2013-08-21 18:44
Bradley Manning was sentenced to 35 years. The prosecution had asked for 60 years, the defense had asked for 25 years. So, the judge compromised by giving him the 35 years. While I don't agree with her decision; because, I don't believe Brad should serve any more time than he has already completed, I do think she showed leniency in a way; because she could have given him 90 years, maybe even death.
 
 
+4 # EternalTruth 2013-08-21 20:57
Yeah, thanks a lot, judge. You're a true humanitarian. May your noble and merciful leniency get you to a slightly cooler level of hell, right alongside those noble souls who in their righteousness agreed to wear a condom while raping their victims.
 
 
0 # Scott Galindez 2013-08-27 14:00
The defense did not ask for 25, there was a reference out of context to less than 25 and some reporters ran with that. The defense didn't suggest a number, they instead asked for the judge to not take away his youth...

I was unable to file right away after the verdict if I was, we would not have reported that the defense asked for 25 years like this NPR report. the reporter above was likely not there for closing arguments...
 
 
+1 # Caliban 2013-08-21 20:08
As I mentioned elsewhere, I believe that NBC news reports that Manning will be eligible for release/parole in approximately 7 1/2 years.
 
 
+5 # Dave45 2013-08-21 22:01
The American military continues aggressively to carry out its self-assumed mandate to ruin human life. Its preference is always, of course, for the most efficient procedure of killing those who oppose its policies or cast light on its inhumane and immoral policies and actions. However, when killing has unacceptable PR consequences (for example, when the "culprit" is an American citizen), the choice is rather simply to ruin the life of the one unable to escape the clutches of the Drone Ranger. Why do Americans keep electing such despicably inhumane people as George W. Bush and Barack Obama?
 
 
+2 # Douglas Jack 2013-08-22 08:35
Dave45, People didn't freely elect W. Bush or Obama. Computer-manipu lated voting put the whole system in doubt beyond the ignorance of a generally consumption-add icted self-serving US population. Targeted assassinations by US, Canadian, NATO & Israeli agents & drones of the Finance-Media-M ilitary-Industr ial-Legilative- Complex. A supposedly 'democratic' (Greek 'power of the people') system combines 10s of 1000s of issues into every voting choice. Elections are determined upon false media communications controlled by money elites. Media articles are 'monologues' continually indoctrinating the beliefs of one side without balanced 2-sided presentation. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues

American 1st Nations & humanity's 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') ancestors worldwide, whose sovereignty & welcome we've so violated, built culture through auspice of ECONOMIC DEMOCRACY. Every person's labour contribution to community is recognized. In Multihome (Apartment, townhouse & village-like) dwelling, women are brought into proximity where they form Production-Soci eties. PS labour is accredited through time-based accounting including Capital ownership & decision-making , Currency for spending, Social-Security insurance, Education (youth progressive ownership accreditation) becoming foundation for specialized decision-making . https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy/8-economic-democracy
 

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