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Franzen begins: "Remember, remember...to close your bank account and transfer your funds into a credit union on the fifth of November? That's what more than 32,000 people on Facebook have pledged to do as a form of protest against the much-reviled debit card fees that some of the nation's largest banks are testing or planning on introducing. "

Street art at the Occupy Wall Street expresses widely held sentiment towards banks, 09/22/11. (photo: jamie nyc/Flickr)
Street art at the Occupy Wall Street expresses widely held sentiment towards banks, 09/22/11. (photo: jamie nyc/Flickr)



‘Bank Transfer Day’ Protest Attracts Massive Facebook Following, As Well As “Bank Trolls”

By Carl Franzen, Talking Points Memo

15 October 11



emember, remember…to close your bank account and transfer your funds into a credit union on the fifth of November?

That's what more than 32,000 people on Facebook have pledged to do as a form of protest against the much-reviled debit card fees that some of the nation's largest banks are testing or planning on introducing.

Remarkably, all of those people came together in just over a week under the umbrella of a single Facebook event page, the aptly-named "Bank Transfer Day," created by Kristen Christian, a 27-year-old Los Angeles-based independent art gallery owner.

The explosive popularity of the event is no doubt due in part to Christian's savvy skills as a marketer: Seeing the Occupy Wall Street movement spread across the U.S. and knowing the appeal of "Anonymous" stories online, she recruited San Francisco-based artist Eddie Colla to design the "Guy Fawkes" mask logo for her Facebook page. The Facebook page also includes black and white imagery designed to be printed out as paper flyers and posted offline in the real world. One of the flyers contains a QR code linking back to the movement's Facebook page.

And yet, despite using the language of the Occupy protests and the "Guy Fawkes" imagery of Anonymous to promote her event, Christian claims that she's not affiliated with either the hacker group or the Occupy demonstrations.

"I'm not associated with Occupy Wall Street, and they aren't directly involved in Bank Transfer Day, though many supporters of that cause have shown support toward this one," she wrote to TPM in an email.

Christian also adamantly denied receiving any financial support for the project, saying that so far, she's only spent $20 of her own money to register the domain name "www.banktransferday.org," and bus fares to post flyers.

"I have not & don't plan to accept public or private donations," she wrote to TPM. "All funding has come out of my own pocket. Not to say I'm wealthy, by any means…This is entirely a word-of-mouth movement."

She's been getting a lot of media attention for her cause lately, including interviews with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and KLTA Los Angeles.

And don't think that the big banks haven't noticed. In fact, bank employees have allegedly "trolled" the Facebook event page, trying to sow dissent with critical wall postings, at least according to Christian.

"Several corporate-level banking institutions have sent 'trolls' to discourage the movement through the event page, including JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Merrill Lynch," Christian wrote to TPM in an email. "I've encouraged all supporters to respond civilly to these bank employees."

As proof, Christian provided TPM with screenshots of a wall post from a woman who's LinkedIn profile indicates she is a "Teller Ops Specialist" at Bank of America.

TPM has contacted the woman and will update when we receive a response.

"When 'trolls' have been confronted regarding their employment with a corporate banking institution, their posts & profiles have mysteriously disappeared," Christian told TPM.

A Wells Fargo spokesman emailed TPM a statement, writing: "We will always respect the rights of Americans to peacefully assemble, and we also hear and understand the concerns this movement is raising…We can't control what people do to make a statement. What we can do as a company is provide customers and communities with support during tough times by working to keep people in their homes, lend to businesses who are trying to grow and provide jobs. We feel that is the important work that many people want to see us do."

JP Morgan Chase declined to comment for this article. TPM has also reached out to Bank of America (which owns Merrill Lynch) and industry trade group the American Bankers Association to ask them about Christian's accusations and their responses to the event. We'll update when we receive anything from them.

But whatever you think of it, Christian's event has clearly struck a nerve with Facebook users. That's understandable, given the general populist outrage and confusion surrounding the interplay between the big banks, merchants, and governments surrounding the new fees.

Bank of America is set to introduce a $5 monthly fee beginning in January, according to an internal memo obtained by The Wall Street Journal. JP Morgan Chase and Wells Fargo are testing $3 fees in smaller markets, according to various reports. Sources at JP Morgan Chase told TPM that the bank has no plans to expand its debit card tests at this time.

The banks reportedly began these efforts as a result of the so-called Durbin Amendment, a controversial piece of legislation proposed by Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL), tacked onto the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, specifically to limit the interchange, or card "swipe fees," big banks (those with over $10 billion in assets) could charge merchants for processing card transactions, to an amount to be determined by the Federal Reserve.

The bitterly contested amendment ended up making it into the final legislation, which was signed into law by President Obama in July 2010.

Obviously, banks weren't big fans of the idea, and have spent considerable resources lobbying against it, threatening to cut services and hike service fees even after the bill was passed and the Fed was deciding how much to cap the interchange fees (eventually settling on 21 cents per transaction in June). That cap went into affect on October 1.

Interestingly, though, credit unions joined in the banks in opposing the amendment, noting that they depend much more on interchange fees for their bottom lines than larger banks. Although the legislation contains an exception specifically for credit unions and institutions with less than $10 billion in assets, credit unions feared that the exemption would be enforceable, and eventually rendered meaningless in the market. As a result, credit unions warned that they too would be forced to cut services and hike other fees.

Since the swipe fee cap went into affect at the beginning of October, the political controversy has only escalated. On Thursday, five Democrats sent a letter to the Justice Department calling upon it to investigate collusion by the big banks to charge debit card fees. Meanwhile, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) and Bill Owens (D-NY) have introduced legislation to repeal the Durbin Amendment.

And all the while, numerous Web media outlets have reported on Christian's efforts as part of an Anonymous or Occupy Wall Street effort.

But Christian, repeatedly told TPM she is "not associated with any groups" including Anonynous or Occupy Wall Street, said that she created the event "out of frustration in the continued mismanagement of funds and unethical business practices of banks."

"My goal was to educate and inform my friends of these practices and to encourage them to move their money to local credit unions. From there the concept spread at an incredible rate," she said, explaining that she researched the Durbin Amendment and bank practices on her own.

When asked why she chose to employ the Occupy Wall Street mantra "the 99 percent" in the event's description and the now iconic imagery of Anonymous, including the Guy Fawkes mask from the graphic novel-cum-movie "V for Vendetta," Christian wrote:

The date and imagery were chosen in an effort to give new life to the infamous date. It was my hope that the date would no longer be known as the day an accused-terrorist attempted a violent act of rebellion, but as the day that the American people peacefully stood together in solidarity to stop funding big banks unethical business practices. This movement doesn't condone or support terrorism, violence or treason. It's very simply an effort to bring money to the community level where it can make a bigger impact.

Christian also said that the only support she's received is "calls from many credit union representatives offering their assistance in educating both myself and the public on the inter-workings of credit unions. "

Pat Keefe, a spokesperson for the Credit Union National Association, an industry trade group, couldn't comment on whether it knew of any specific credit unions who had spoken to Christian. But Keefe released the following official response to TPM:

We are very much intrigued, as we believe credit unions are the best option for consumer financial services. And if people are upset with big banks, we think they should look at a credit union, and they'll like what they see. But, each consumer has to make the choice of what works best for them, their families and their futures. So, we know that not everybody will ultimately decide to make the change - but we encourage all to give it a very close look.

However, Keffe noted that "given that, as of June '11 (FDIC) commercial US banks hold about $12.4 trillion in total assets (and all credit unions less than $1 trillion)," there probably wouldn't be much impact on the banks themselves. In fact, as counterintuitive as it might seem, if all of the events' attendees actually follow through with their stated intentions, the effect would actually challenge credit unions.

"For credit unions, a big inflow of funds like that can put some pressure on them to maintain earnings," Keefe explained. "Overall, however, we think credit unions could absorb the inflow."

Keefe also said that while credit unions have historically seen an uptick in new customers and funds during times of economic turmoil and uncertainty, the Bank Transfer Day Facebook event and its overwhelming response was unprecedented as far his organization was aware. However, he advised customers to consider their options carefully.

"If you can absorb $3 to $5 a month, and you don't want to go through the hassle of changing financial institutions (and it can be - some banks impose fees for closing accounts, etc.), then stay put," Keefe wrote.

Indeed, the National Credit Union Administration, the independent federal agency that regulates the industry, says much the same thing. As a spokesperson wrote to TPM in an email:

"It is prudent for consumers to weigh the pros and cons of what type of financial institution they choose to bank with. NCUA offers the following general guidelines. As the regulator and insurer of credit unions, however, it would be inappropriate for NCUA to comment specifically on the protest you state.

Still, the event shows no signs of slowing down. And if all of the attendees do end up transferring their money out of the big banks on November 5, it will certainly be a day to remember.

Correction: This article originally misstated the Durbin Amendment applying to banks with over $10 million in assets, rather than the correct $10 billion. We regret the error.

 

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+44 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-15 15:26
For those who may be "fence-sitting" concerning transfer of accounts from a bank to a credit union: I'm a credit union member and I enjoy: FDICA insurance - same as a bank; Credit union loan rates are competitive; ATM use is FREE; Blank checks (when ordered) are comptitively priced; The staff is friendly, helpful, and very knowledgable in financial needs. I've been a member for several years - all because I got fed up with the fees, attitudes and "stuffed-shirt" attitudes of banks.
 
 
+1 # NanFan 2011-10-18 04:26
Any ideas for those of us who live outside the state now as disgruntled expats, but who work tirelessly for U.S. educational institutions (online professors) that have their pay directly deposited to a "big bank" and who NEED to use their debit cards internationally to get their money???

I'm thinking PayPal, but it still would funnel through the big bank that I can't close unless I'm physically there to do so.

Ideas, please!!!

N.
 
 
+1 # rojo 2011-10-19 06:43
Nooo, not PayPal! PayPal is not FDIC insured, and is not a bank at all! They have many foul practices that are perhaps beyond the scope of this discussion. Suffice to say, there are better alternatives.

Credit unions provide accounts with routing numbers and online transfers and so forth. Would it be feasible to have your checks direct deposited into a credit union, then simply use an electronic funds transfer via the web to transfer to a European / Canadian / whatever bank? All that would be required is to maintain a minimum balance, probably $50 or so. But lots of credit unions offer Visa and Mastercard debit cards, so even that might not be necessary.

In any case, it's good that you are at least considering the move, even if ultimately decide that it's best for you to leave your money where it is now. It's important that you know your options.
 
 
+41 # seniorcitizen 2011-10-15 15:36
The concept of having a"run on the Banks" is something that I have been thinking about doing and advocating.The OWS sends the message that we are really fed up with the way the big banks have gambled with our money and then refuse to loan to businesses and people in need. We need to take the protest a step further and take action. This action would be in the form of taking out all savings and checking account monies and putting them into community banks, credit unions or other , smaller banks.If the 99% would do it, it would make a big impact.Cancel credit cards and pay them off too. It is time to take the bull by the horns.
 
 
+15 # Anarchist 23 2011-10-15 16:00
Guy Fawkes and the rest of the Nov. 5 'terrorists' were a bunch of patsies recruited by Lord Cecile to prevent James I of England from making peace with Catholics and Spain, continuing the war and thus laying the first foundations for Britain's empire. Lord Cecil employed a 'tame Spaniel' one Sir Thomas Percy of the influential Catholic family of Percy (Lords of Northumberland at one time) as his agent provocateur, who was hanged with the rest so as not to give away the 'false flag' plot. Unfortunately offspring of that family still endure-one was President Franklin Pierce, mentioned by Lincoln in his famous 'House Divided' speech, another was Barbara Pierce who married and had a child: her son- pResident George W. Bush. You know what they say: 'Blood will tell' 911, the present source of many of our ills contravenes the laws of physics but sure delivered an end to our civil liberties, any chance of a peaceful and prosperous future for our children and the bankrupting of 99% of the society.
 
 
+6 # jon 2011-10-15 22:34
WOW!

What a great piece of history.

Thanks 23.
 
 
+35 # pernsey 2011-10-15 17:07
Credit Unions are great!! I think its great people are switching over. Let the too big to fail crew see how we dont support them!!
 
 
+33 # DurangoKid 2011-10-15 19:45
By all means vote with your dollars. Hit the banksters where it hurts. If I weren't already out of the banks, I'd switch on Nov. 5 to add my bit to make a big splash! Let's see if the corporate media picks up on this. Wouldn't it be cool to have 1,000,000 people switch on one day?
 
 
+31 # Risa de Angel 2011-10-15 20:30
I've been a member of my local credit union for many years. The service is great. Fees are fewer and lower than bank fees. I do most transactions online even though my CU's nearest branch is just a mile away. Another great thing about credit unions is that they lend to and invest in the local community.
 
 
+12 # jon 2011-10-15 22:38
And - with local credit unions - if you need to talk to "The Man" that is holding your paper, you can walk right in and talk to him. In fact, I know mine and we call each other by our first names.

Try THAT with a Reagan de-regulated, too-big-to-fail commercial bank!
 
 
+24 # propsguy 2011-10-15 21:54
a bunch of people trying to close their accounts at citibank in NYC today were arrested. there's some footage of it on youtube. i'm pretty sure citibank account holders hearing of this won't wait until nov 5 to close their accounts. there is a Move Your Money site which lists small banks that didn't get any TARP money. that's how i found my credit union which is one floor below my office (duh! clue phone). i'm very happy there. they have 7 employees and the bank president is on the premises.
by all means, move your money- for the debit card fee, for the bailout, for the 30,000 employees BOA is going to layoff so their CEO can get another raise, so they can't gamble with your money, because the government thinks they are too big to fail and we have to prove that untrue.
there are a zillion reasons- MOVE YOUR MONEY
 
 
-6 # Tim@GGTR.com 2011-10-15 22:20
Remember it is not the gun, but the one who aims and pulls the trigger.
It is not the bank as much as the president, managers and directors.
I am all for localizing our economy, our energy our jobs and our food. But there will be a place for spices from the orient and international banks to do a job. Localization is the key to a healthy economy and environment. But some international connections should be to our benefit. Not cause us harm
Love always
Tim
 
 
+11 # ADNK 2011-10-16 02:21
I have had a vestigial credit union account for years. I will be money shifting on Nov 5th. It takes awhile to unsnarl oneself from long standing bank associations. I will be out of B of A's reach in a few months.
 
 
+13 # Barbara K 2011-10-16 04:25
I changed to using the Credit Union and my small town bank several months ago when I first made this suggestion on AlterNet. The only language that the banks understand is money. We made them wealthy and we can make them unwealthy. They've screwed us over and over in every possible way they could, most anyone out there has had an undesirable experience with these big banks and corps who are NOT too big to fail. It is time for us to let OUR money walk right on out of their grips. We have alternatives and don't have to take their greediness any more. Just be sure you choose a Credit Union without ties to one of the giant banks. Glad to see it is finally catching on on a larger scale; may even release the grip of Republican/Tbag gers at the same time; who have been standing in the way of regulations to stop the pillaging of the citizens of this country of OURS.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN
 
 
+9 # satx 2011-10-16 06:17
I fully support screwing the big national banks, all of them, by switching to community banks, FCUs, etc.

But the TBTF national banks have many 10s of millions of accounts, so even a huge success of a million switchers on transfer day would be trivial.

But the banks might feed the switching movement by compensating the money lost by the switching by hitting their account holders with more fees.
 
 
+5 # epcraig 2011-10-16 07:06
If, as I did, you find that the credit union chooses (stipulate good reason) not to accept your deposit they are likely to recommend a good local bank when asked. I am very happy with the local bank recommended by the credit union.
 
 
+5 # LeeMG 2011-10-16 07:18
I am planning how to transfer my funds. Due to automatic deposits and automatic payments, it is not a simple process. I may not make the November 7th target date, but I hope Chase Bank management be influenced to show the personal interest that their local employees already do.
 
 
+8 # reiverpacific 2011-10-16 08:05
Credit Unions are actually truly democratic in structure and practice (One automatically becomes a 'shareholder' just by opening an account). We have had good experiences with Southern Oregon FCU and will now be transferring my business account to a more local CU from US Bank.
Hit the evil doers where it hurts most.
This is also a good start to getting money out of elections (as far as I know, C.U.'s don't have lobbyists by charter but I'm open to correction on that).
 
 
+9 # michelle 2011-10-16 08:14
If you are not already in a credit union or small, local bank, do so quickly. It would not surprise me to see the big banks slap a hefty fee on closing out accounts.

Closing accounts is a good way to send a powerful message if enough people do it. My own credit union offers a 7% Visa card. I need a minimum balance of $300 to have a free checking account and billpay and other online services are free.

Remember every dime you leave in a big bank only makes them stronger.
 
 
+7 # Lolanne 2011-10-16 09:42
I've been using small local banks for years, at first just because I like to get to know the people I deal with and the personal touch small banks offer appeals to me. Since the big banks' duplicity hit the fan, I am even happier that I keep my business local. I also enjoy the convenience of using a credit card for just about everything, but the trick is to buy only necessities with it and pay it off in full every month - no interest charges that way. If I don't think I can pay it off completely, I do without whatever it is I want until I can. The card I use offers 'points' with use and has ties to lots of merchants offering a variety of merchandise, so I use the points to get e-certificates or gift cards and use those when I need to buy gifts. This plan has worked out really well for me; I highly recommend it. But it does require a lot of self-discipline and solid knowledge of what your income will cover. I get a lot of satisfaction from feeling I'm gaming the system -- I'm not paying anybody any interest or fees (my credit card does not charge an annual fee), I'm getting free or nearly free gifts for my family's and friends' special occasions, and I am not supporting ANY of the big banks!
 
 
+7 # mwd870 2011-10-16 10:28
Today, October 16, we are already seeing videos where the big banks are refusing to let customers transfer their money. Is this legal? It is a perfect illustration of why OWS and the 99% movement are so important.

I do all my banking at my local bank.
 
 
+1 # greengeekgirl 2011-10-16 12:25
I really don't like how this article keeps insinuating that she's somehow involved with OWS or Anonymous "despite protests" just because she used the Guy Fawkes image (something that, if you have a high school education, you SHOULD be familiar with) and is using some of the OWS language. The OWS movement has been all over the internet, and Anon is always all over the internet, so it's not as though she couldn't have been inspired by both without being involved in either.
 
 
+8 # J.B. 2011-10-16 12:46
I kept saying "I should switch" and about 8 months ago I went into Chase and talked to 'a rep' who tried to give me many reasons why I should not withdraw my savings and close my checking acc't. When she was done she admitted that if she did not work there herself, she would do the same. I'm very happy with Pacific Trust Bank, which is a credit union.
 
 
+3 # signalius 2011-10-16 19:29
I don't really HAVE any money in my Bank of America account. But it does fluctuate from upwards of $4000 on down to… let me check here… ah! Negative $14.58.

Hmmph.

While no bank is crazy enough to give me a credit card, I do enjoy the perks of having a free debit card, like when I need to fill my gas tank at 3:00 AM or order exotic drugs online. And at times, $5.00 doesn't seem like much to ask for such a cute card (mine has Hello Kitty on it... hrmmm). But when I'm down to bark and chips in my account $5.00 could equal half of my net worth. Or more, like this week.

Perhaps they should assess a percentage fee based on a what you have in your account, say .05% so that I'd be charged $5.00 only if I actually had enough money to hardly notice. If you were Mr. Moneybuckets and you had $1,000,000 simmering in your account you'd nary bat a lash at the $5,000 fee. And wow! With my account 14.58 in the red I'd eventually be back in black in under four years!

Don't call it Socialism…

Call it Awesomism.
 
 
+3 # bubbiesue 2011-10-17 07:42
Just remember even Credit Unions are not necessarily the only answer. Local banks are an excellent option compared to Bank Enormous. We found one and have had terrific service since Day 1. Every time I think about moving I realize we're better off where we are. Yes, I have a lot of respect for CUs. They serve a lot of people well, but would not serve me well so I stay local.
 
 
+2 # Allison 2011-10-18 11:42
"A Wells Fargo spokesman emailed TPM a statement, writing: 'We will always respect the rights of Americans to peacefully assemble, and we also hear and understand the concerns this movement is raising…We can't control what people do to make a statement.'"

Bullshit. There's no way a huge corporation like Wells Fargo doesn't have a social media policy saying what its employees can and cannot say on social media sites.
 
 
+4 # pernsey 2011-10-18 15:44
Im in process of paying off my Bank of America credit card with a loan from my credit union. The sooner I quit paying BoA the better I will feel. They will get no more of my money!
 
 
+1 # mortsa1171 2011-10-20 20:26
Great idea. If you REALLY want to do to
the banks what they have done to us,
leave just a dollar or two in the account
instead of withdrawing 100% of your
money! This should screw up their
operation big time!!!
 

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