Stiglitz writes: "Mitt Romney's income taxes have become a major issue in the American presidential campaign. Is this just petty politics, or does it really matter? "
Joseph Stiglitz speaks at the World Economic Forum annual meeting, 01/26/11. (photo: Getty Images)
Mitt Romney's Tax Avoidance Weakens Bonds of American Society
03 September 12
If politicians and those around them do not pay their fair share of taxes, how can we expect that anyone else will?
itt Romney's income taxes have become a major issue in the American presidential campaign. Is this just petty politics, or does it really matter? In fact, it does matter - and not just for Americans.
A major theme of the underlying political debate in the United States is the role of the state and the need for collective action. The private sector, while central in a modern economy, cannot ensure its success alone. For example, the financial crisis that began in 2008 demonstrated the need for adequate regulation.
Moreover, beyond effective regulation (including ensuring a level playing field for competition), modern economies are founded on technological innovation, which in turn presupposes basic research funded by government. This is an example of a public good - things from which we all benefit, but that would be under-supplied (or not supplied at all) were we to rely on the private sector.
Conservative politicians in the US underestimate the importance of publicly provided education, technology, and infrastructure. Economies in which government provides these public goods perform far better than those in which it does not.
But public goods must be paid for, and it is imperative that everyone pays their fair share. While there may be disagreement about what that entails, those at the top of the income distribution who pay 15% of their reported income (money accruing in tax shelters in the Cayman Islands and other tax havens may not be reported to US authorities) clearly are not paying their fair share.
There is an old adage that a fish rots from the head. And if no one does, how can we expect to finance the public goods that we need?
Democracies rely on a spirit of trust and co-operation in paying taxes. If every individual devoted as much energy and resources as the rich do to avoiding their fair share of taxes, the tax system either would collapse, or would have to be replaced by a far more intrusive and coercive scheme. Both alternatives are unacceptable.
More broadly, a market economy could not work if every contract had to be enforced through legal action. But trust and co-operation can survive only if there is a belief that the system is fair. Recent research has shown that a belief that the economic system is unfair undermines both co-operation and effort. Yet, increasingly, Americans are coming to believe that their economic system is unfair; and the tax system is emblematic of that sense of injustice.
The billionaire investor Warren Buffett argues that he should pay only the taxes that he must, but that there is something fundamentally wrong with a system that taxes his income at a lower rate than his secretary is required to pay. He is right. Romney might be forgiven were he to take a similar position. Indeed, it might be a Nixon-in-China moment: a wealthy politician at the pinnacle of power advocating higher taxes for the rich could change the course of history.
But Romney has not chosen to do so. He evidently does not recognise that a system that taxes speculation at a lower rate than hard work distorts the economy. Indeed, much of the money that accrues to those at the top is what economists call rents, which arise not from increasing the size of the economic pie, but from grabbing a larger slice of the existing pie.
Those at the top include a disproportionate number of monopolists who increase their income by restricting production and engaging in anti-competitive practices; CEOs who exploit deficiencies in corporate-governance laws to grab a larger share of corporate revenues for themselves (leaving less for workers); and bankers who have engaged in predatory lending and abusive credit-card practices (often targeting poor and middle-class households). It is perhaps no accident that rent-seeking and inequality have increased as top tax rates have fallen, regulations have been eviscerated, and enforcement of existing rules has been weakened: the opportunity and returns from rent-seeking have increased.
Today, a deficiency of aggregate demand afflicts almost all advanced countries, leading to high unemployment, lower wages, greater inequality, and - coming full, vicious circle - constrained consumption. There is now a growing recognition of the link between inequality and economic instability and weakness.
There is another vicious circle: economic inequality translates into political inequality, which in turn reinforces the former, including through a tax system that allows people like Romney - who insists that he has been subject to an income-tax rate of "at least 13%" for the last 10 years - not to pay their fair share. The resulting economic inequality - a result of politics as much as market forces - contributes to today's overall economic weakness.
Romney may not be a tax evader; only a thorough investigation by the US Internal Revenue Service could reach that conclusion. But, given that the top US marginal income-tax rate is 35%, he certainly is a tax avoider on a grand scale. And, of course, the problem is not just Romney; writ large, his level of tax avoidance makes it difficult to finance the public goods without which a modern economy cannot flourish.
But, even more important, tax avoidance on Romney's scale undermines belief in the system's fundamental fairness, and thus weakens the bonds that hold a society together.
Joseph E. Stiglitz, a Nobel laureate in economics, has pioneered pathbreaking theories in the fields of economic information, taxation, development, trade, and technical change. He is currently a professor at Columbia University, and is the author of "The Price of Inequality: How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future."
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The Price of Inequality: How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future by Joseph E. Stiglitz
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/02/biden-claims-romney-wants-war-with-iran-and-syria/
Stiglitz is really excellent in his book on laying out how and why this happened and what we can do about it. If we do not know what to do, perhaps the best thing is to express unhappiness and disapproval about what is happening in the country - BECAUSE OF BOTH PARTY'S "BROWNNOSING" TO THE RICH AND POWERFUL AND CORPORATIONS,
It was not just the Republicans you know that allow Mitt Romney to get away with paying such a low rate of taxes ... 13% last year, but even by his own standards Romney said he didn't think he ever paid under 11% ... that is just reprehensible, but it is the same thing with some Democrats too.
Look at Warren Buffet, he pays less than his secretary, talks about it and says it's wrong ... but what does he do to change it or make it fairer. That is what we get from Democrats.
Of course these people are not going to drive the change, it has to come from all of us screaming about it that we will not take it anymore!
Thats the republican mantra, I got mine so screw the rest of you!
Also, unfortunately true about the majority of our electorate & citizens. It's just more understandable when you are operating hand-to-mouth rather than making $24 million a year on investments...
If Romney is a scumbag on taxes then so are the Obama's and the Clinton's!!
Quoting freeportguy:
One thing we know is that Obama doesn't up have accounts in Caymans or Switzerland.
OH REALLY?
Obama's 2009 Tax return shows FOREIGN INCOME from "various Countries" as $820,751.00 and last year FOREIGN INCOME "other countries" $269,710.00
That is income from OUTSIDE the US, so check the Tax Returns before you spread those lies!
http://www.barackobama.com/tax-returns/
As hard as your try to rationalize things, your just not telling the truth...period!
The President DISCLOSED his Tax returns. WHY won't Mittens? Do you have a site we can go to to check HIS?
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/obama-paid-nearly-double-the-tax-rate-of-mitt-romney-112016.html
Please read and think. Where is NYT? Do powers let him on TV. Would call him Einstein of Economics - he deserve 2nd Nobel Price.
And, a second huge ray of hope - we the sheeple actually have grabbed hold of important, basic Stiglitz understandings, and applied them to signs and chants as we have and still do all we can to...OCCUPY WALL STREET !
Activism based on "...arguments supported by facts." Of course the 'mess' media does not allow Stiglitz on TV, any more than Occupiers get coverage. Cannot have truth being told, now can the greed and power addicted, evil villainaire rulers.
If only we were smart enough to understand that jobs to the Mitts are beyond his comprehension - but alas, his rhetoric has as much truth and credibility as his way of life.
He's a "me me" kind of guy who cannot comprehend "you guys" and as president he will sleep with "his guys" and to hell with "you guys"
VOTE OBAMA and Dem and for g'ds sake VOTE and don't use a Diebold machine. Ask for paper ballot
Activista, You called that on right , correct spot on, etc. JUST what did he create of value? He created jobs in the southeast Asia, fired Americans, and pocked tons of money while getting very favorable tax expenses, IF he paid ANY!
...committed by those who have no loyalty to any nation, no sense of responsibility for humanity and our planet, and who are aided and abetted by treacherously prevaricating politicians, our Supreme Court majority, as well as the delusional political party loyalists who have lost the capacity for intelligent analyses. While they are destroying civilizations worthy of saving, they insult even their own god-head by portraying god as greedy, ignorant and racist.
What a recipe for disaster...unle ss they are neutered. This is not the time for accommodating such treachery. They must be successfully opposed and prevented from destroying our beautiful planet and all those who honor justice. Let's not just talk about it...let's unify and be successful in our actions.
years in this Country! Thank You!
We have seen how "privatization" and low tax rates for the rich and corporations have not worked and plunged us into debt while those desperate to keep the corporate control spend millions attacking our own people and their needs.
This should be a "no-brainer" for intelligent people. Romney, a classic vulture capitalist, and the Republicans would be the wrong choice for America!
The Republicans are counting on the non-votes of cynics and disillusioned progressives. They even funded Nader ads in Oregon in 2004.
Think back to 2000. Think back to 1968, if you can. If you can't, ask a Boomer.
If you still need persuading, I have two words for you: Supreme Court. There will almost certainly be a vacancy on the Court in the next four years, and the Justice most likely to leave one is Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Which would you like to see, another Sotomayor or another Scalia? The latter would be the final nail in the coffin of our democracy.
Aint that the truth Barbara, their excuses would become rage if a dem wouldnt disclose his taxes, but as if by magic, because its a republican they make excuses for him. Its lunacy!
He should show us his past tax returns. He must have done something the American people would not approve of or he would let us see them.
"Whoever decided to publish that didn't think through what was written. The Stiglitz article today is an example of that.
Stiglitz commented that the 'tax issue' about Romney's just releasing what the law requires "weakens American society". Really. Does he honestly believe that the fabric of American excellence, and zeal for independence will really unravel because one candidate does not give in to his opponents?
How could RSN maintain a high level of integrity and print such a thing.
Suppose a supporter of Romney made a statement at a public forum that Obama's attack against the U.S. Constitution was going to eliminate American freedom of thought. Well, for what it is worth, at least half of the U.S. Congress (Republican and Democrat) have private trusts that enable them to reduce their tax responsibility.
Just a request to think through to the logical conclusion of your opening lines. Heaven help us !
Nevertheless, keep going RSN. It helps reduce the division between left and right.
I'm so tired of hearing about the liberal media - what a crock - they all bend over backwards, erring on the side of the far right, so as to appear as fair as possible!
I already know the answer, they would be screaming bloody murder, and Fox news would be going nuts. I asked the question on the off chance it would bring some rational thought into the minds of the right...one can always hope anyway.
Romney is calling the electorate to trust him based on the pieties he repeats and probably also on his presidential appearance. "Trust me" won't wash.
2) Gov. Romney is departing from decades of tradition. As Stiglitz explains, taxes are largely on the honor system; audits are few. Voters should be given the information, in this case tax returns, which demonstrates a candidate is honest and trustworthy in his/her financial dealings. Gov. George Romney understood this and set the standard his son is now refusing to live up to.
3) While I am quite concerned about the Obama Admin's actions relative to the 1st and 4th Amendments(warr antless searches, actions against whistleblowers, etc.), I'm guessing your comment relates more to the Affordable Care Act and other Conservative canards. First, if I tried to refuse health insurance even pre-Affordable Care Act, MY EMPLOYER would not let me. This is still the case for 90% of employed people since group health plans MANDATE that all group members participate. Given this, the good that comes with 47 mil more insured, no denials for pre-existing conditions, coverage for children through age 26, and numerous other benefits that lead up to lower costs for everyone much more than offsets the requirement that every citizen who has a body must take responsibility for caring for it by purchasing insurance. This is individual responsibility. Isn't that something Conservatives support? They did when they proposed the mandate.
Regards,
Yes, there is excellence in America, such as is expressed in the forms of honest compassion and love, hard work, sense of fair play, and a desire for true enlightenment. If you read with understanding, these are among the examples of American Excellence that are expressed by most of the contributors to sites such as this. These are the forms of American Excellence that you American Taliban types want to destroy.
Whatever the Great Creator is about, it's not as is described by your preachings and actions. You may wish to read the teaching of Christ with understanding, rather than using religion for purposes of mind control of the disadvantaged. In the military, we have a doctrine of "Leave no wounded behind". Well there are those who are wonded by a gluttonous society...and an honorable person would not leave them behind.
Man up and reveal:
*** how many members of the cloth participate in book censorship and burning (like they did during the reigns of Fascism and Communism);
***how you champion a destruction of the constitutional guarantee of Separation of Church and State;
*** how you don't want to pay any taxes that pay for education, national infastruction, healthcare et al...while at the same time use the funds you fleece from the flocks to get envolved in politics;
*** how you loath science, because it serves to make people more educated and free from the tyrrany of ignorance...and how you believe that an enlightened flock is a threat against church tyranny that's taken the forms of burning at the stake, hanging of witches, excommunication s for those who challenge your decrees. Ah yes, and then there's the need to bend women low to the demands of male dominence. Keep them uneducated and pregnant, all in God's name of cource.
***how you portray God as a vengegul, rapacious, fear-mongering, prevaricating, war loving, enslaver of minds and bodies;
***how you desicrate Christ's messages of helping the poor, healing the leapers, and throwing the money changers from the Temple.
What fabric of American "Excellence" and "Zeal for independence" would that be (Additional parentheses mine), prithee?
The current American attitude to (financial and material) wealth, not to be confused with "excellence" almost a redundant phrase there days, is not to produce anything but use the means of others in risky gambles for obscene profit, avoid paying taxes towards the common good, pay workers as little as possible and eventually enslave them for the aggrandizement of the owner-rulers. As you hinted at, wealth is mandatory to run for office and abuse of power is almost a default result.
"Zeal for independence" is a phrase very much open to interpretation, especially if one is able to afford independence and manipulate it's protection for personal power and insulation from the masses. Independence from what? Government? Community? The Church? -Add to taste.
And pastor (respectfully). Do you seek to influence your flock in how they should vote, and does your church pay taxes?
Personally, I don't envy anybody material wealth if that's what blows their kilt up, but I do object to them begrudging their fair whack of support to the civil society that they seek to dominate rather than govern equitably.
What would Jesus do?
If your Mitt-ler has not NOT paid his fair share, then he would have no trouble sharing that information with those he wants to vote for him =Americans who do pay their fair share.
RSN has more integrity in each article than any "Conservative Evangelical" I've heard in my 70+ years. In fact, what does "Evangelical" stand for or indicate? The Christians I know play fair and help those in need. Not being a religious person I usually respect a person's choice to a religion but when I read what you wrote - and I mean this in the nicest way - I cannot respect your "double speak"
Rest of you guys - Please VOTE 2012 and VOTE straight DEM. Vote OBAMA. And get all you can get OUT to vote for DEM/OBAMA
As you can see from the red negative check marks you received, you 'opinion' as if based on something higher than us common folks who don't brag a "title" was not well received.
1.) Your tirade is a copy of the GOP/TP memorized mantra
2.) Us ave/poor folk pay our taxes and cannot hide earnings to avoid paying taxes
3.) If Mitt had nothing to hide - well "that partial sentence" speaks for itself.
4.) Your lecture only solidifies us liberal, left-wing, caring individuals - more than you can imagine.
Good Bye PastorEd until you open your eyes to TRUTH about your Mitt (or Ryan) -- Is Mittler or Paul-ler leading on that ticket? (please don't answer me PastorEd - bc we know - the $$ people who put them on the ticket!)
Romney reminds me of the ungrateful spoiled rich kid and his middle class followers "wana bes" think they can really be like him if they vote for him. They are in for a shock! Romney wants to transfer the cost of society onto the poor and middle class. His ilk don't want competition and if they get the chance they'll finish the destruction of the working man that Bush started.
WAIT before making it into a big deal--THEN, the last couple of days before the election slam the public with it. That's smart politics. Good people, decent people, can be conned, and Karl Rove is the master con artist of our era, the Goebbels of the 21st century.
And Karl Rove is the Goebbels of the 21st century so far. The century is still young.
Imagine what could have and would be done if the president had the support he needed and I do not mean blue dog Dems who are Republicans in sheep's clothing I mean REAL support along with the ditching of at LEAST three members of the right wing extremist court. Ah, I can only dream!
So, there are real political implications to ones analysis of the current crisis and discussions of how to get out of it and ignoring production (and its profitablility) which is what the capitalist economy (and profits) is ultimately based on is problemmatic at best.
on the relationship between capitals falling rate of profit and the current crisis see Andrew Kliman's "Failure of Capitalist Production"
The problem is the tax law, the confusing tax regulations and mostly, the pureaucrats who perpetuate the foregoing.
Well I get your drift mgrosent, my questions to you are...if Mitt is doing things legally...then why wont he just release his taxes and put this to rest?
Every president releases several years (meaning more then a year and a halfs worth) of taxes, this exemption for Mitt just baffles me. If he has nothing to hide, then why doesnt he just release the taxes if hes all above board on everything?
Oh I just thought of another question for you...if Obama was not willing to submit all his tax returns you would all be screaming bloody murder. Oh and please dont bring up Obamas college records thats so irrelevant, he was a grade A student. Bush was the dummy that passed on his families donations to school. Why werent you screaming about that? Cuz it was a republican and you make excuses instead of holding them accountable...t hats why!
I'm much more interested in candidates' ideas and ideaologies than their finances. I expect that a full bore audit would find something wrong with my tax returns, and if you are a limosine liberal as you appear to me, with yours as well.
Remember, TR, FDR, JFK cane from wealthy families, and they did well for the cuntry. "It's no sin to be rich" (Tevya)
So if President Obama didnt show full disclosure of his tax returns, you wouldnt have any problem with that because its a confidential thing? Really? Mgro I suspect you would make any excuse possible for Mitt, but if the roles were reversed there would be no excuse. Thats my point...not whether someone is rich or poor. Im not the type of person that thinks because I got mine I will screw the rest of the world to keep it. Thats why what your saying doesnt wash with me. If I thought you would react the same if this happened to a democratic candidate, what you say might have some merit.
I suspect Mitt has something to hide, and if your running for president, its something people should know. Would you interview a key employee and hire him, if he wouldnt disclose all that was required of him? I sure wouldnt.
Do we have to live through a further devolution of compromise, fairness, common sense, consensus and rational policy positions before we wake up? Do we have to actually see an expanded version of the New Orleans Superdome during Katrina, this time brought about not by force majeure but by conscious economic cruelty, brutality or, worse, abject indifference to the suffering of our fellow citizens? How much more empty sophistry do we have to listen to on the media airwaves before we throw a heavy household object into the LED screen while we scream obscenities? Was that really what Clint was saying in his demented little psychodrama to the whole cabal of lawyers and politicians: "Shut Up! "Go F**k Yourself!"??
We'd better find our way back to some measure of rational, coherent public dialogue soon, where people begin to actually see and feel REAL progress on the galactic issues before us, or we're headed over the cliff into true Wiley Coyote territory, where We The People just keep dropping, dropping until there's that little thud and puff of dust way down "there".
Not paying your taxes though, is a real issue. So lets's keep pounding away at that until Mitt phonies up some fake returns.
501(c3) organizations should be abolished. Much of the mud-slinging by Super-PACs is done under this federally-appro ved method of avoiding taxes in the interest of education. Take it away. At the very least the federal government ought to be able to collect normal taxes on this money.
Some legitimate 501(c3) organizations will be hurt, but the loophole that allows money given to Super-PACs to be tax-exempt must be removed.
If I was hiring someone and they didnt show me what I asked for, I would not hire that person. Making these excuses doesnt cut... and saying the big bad dems will look closely at his returns...so what! Sorry that is just sad and just says a whole lot of nothing and doesnt answer the question, why Mitt wont submit his tax returns beyond a year and a half?
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