Excerpt: "Huckabee has just been caught on video, at a Christian supremacist conference, stating that Americans should be forcibly indoctrinated at gunpoint. The organization which hosted the 'Rediscover God In America' conference, United in Purpose, has edited Huckabee's comment from footage of his speech, but not before People For The American Way's Kyle Mantyla captured the unedited footage."
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee speaks to supporters and members of the news media after talking about his new book at the National Press Club, 02/24/11. (photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
Mike Huckabee Wants Americans to Be Indoctrinated at Gunpoint
31 March 11
id Mike Huckabee just flush his presidential aspirations down the proverbial toilet? Well, if American mainstream media has an ounce of journalistic gumption remaining the answer most certainly would be "yes". Huckabee has just been caught on video, at a Christian supremacist conference, stating that Americans should be forcibly indoctrinated at gunpoint. The organization which hosted the "Rediscover God In America" conference, United in Purpose, has edited Huckabee's comment from footage of his speech, but not before People For The American Way's Kyle Mantyla captured the unedited footage, in which Mike Huckabee states, "I almost wish that there would be, like, a simultaneous telecast, and all Americans would be forced - forced at gunpoint no less - to listen to every David Barton message, and I think our country would be better for it."
David Barton is the leading promoter of a brand of falsified American history altered to support the claim that America was founded as a Christian, rather than a secular, nation. As Chris Rodda, who has authored an entire book debunking Barton's brand of pseudo-history, writes,
I was quite surprised ... to come across a video clip from this conference on the People for the American Way (PFAW) Right Wing Watch blog with the headline "Huckabee: Americans Should Be Forced, At Gunpoint, To Learn From David Barton." I had watched Huckabee's speech. How on earth could I have missed a statement like that? Well, I didn't. It had been edited out of the webcast that I had watched.
Kyle Mantyla over at PFAW's Right Wing Watch had recorded Huckabee's speech when it was streamed live on Thursday, and posted the "forced at gunpoint" clip on Friday. By Saturday, when I watched the webcast on the United in Purpose website, that part of Huckabee's speech had been edited out.
The webcast that I saw showed Barton leaving the stage as he ended his presentation, then the screen going black for a moment, and then what appeared to be the beginning of Huckabee's speech. What was edited out was Barton returning to the stage to introduce Huckabee, and the first two minutes and forty-five seconds of Huckabee's speech, during which Huckabee made his "gunpoint" comment and praised David Lane, the man behind all of the American "Renewal" and "Restoration" projects that have popped up across the country during the past few elections.
[below: the unedited footage from Huckabee's speech, with the "joke" about indoctrinating Americans at gunpoint. Footage courtesy of Kyle Mantyla of Rightwing Watch, who might have almost single-handedly consigned Huckabee's presidential hopes to the dustbin of history.]
I should also note that what Chris Rodda has to say about this has especial weight given that she's arguably been the most indefatigable author to challenge David Barton's sprawling falsified American history oeuvre, as a Talk To Action site search on Rodda's extensive posts debunking Barton would suggest. Chris Rodda is author of the book Liars For Jesus: The Religious Right's Alternate Version of American History which prominently features David Barton, head of Wallbuilders and arguably king of the "liars for Jesus". Rodda is also Head Researcher for the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.
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That statement is itself un-American. All points of view should be heard in the political arena, including Bible-banging historical revisionists like Huckabee. They should be allowed to run for office, and they should be soundly defeated.
I have have a small suggestion. We should stop funding people who cannot be happy conducting their religious lives in private and are maniacally obsessed with making America into a Theocracy. It would pay off our deficit.
Uh... you know he already was elected to public office before, right? Not that I don't agree with you. I think he's an idiot too. There truly is no room for religion in our government with the way the Constituion was written. Anyone who knows the real history knows that Jefferson toiled for days over the line "inalienable rights". He wanted God-given rights but in the end he agreed with Ben Franklin and decided on the former because he, too, figured that God-given might be misconstrued as sectarian. How I wish we could have some of their good sense now.
Also the Founders were primarily deists, so their use of the word God is not the same as that used byu Huckabee and his ilk.
During the 18th century due to state Churches Religion was often profoundly secular in there activaties and priests often weilded or abused there secular power.
And then, *saturate* the media with this clip!!!
look at who we have for a president right now if you want proof.
Stupid is right.. Would you believe people were actually stupid enough to vote for Bush W.?? But that wasn't enough to win soo.. They stole it. That's Gods truth. And ever since then, we just get screwed more.. I wanna thank all those as you said, stupid people out there for the lesson.. grp
Bottom line: This guy is dangerous! No matter what his intention may have been, Preacher Huckabee's statement is SO egregious as to forever bar him from any consideration for any high office in the USA . . . or anywhere else, for that matter.
It's not just the Pastor Huckabee's who shouldn't be elected to office... it is anyone who serves these churches under any guise at all.
The Crusades, Christians vs. Muslims continued under Bush 2 & is kept inflamed by the right wing media.
Demonizing a group of people by defining them as barbaric, savage, uncivilized, etc has been a long employed tool for convincing people that another group of people can be displaced, disempowered, and murdered with impunity and 'moral immunity'.
I also understand your concern because using the term parenthetically without giving a reason or context does convey that the cruel stereotype still exist. I'd like to see what liberalman has to say for himself in this regard though.
he IS the joke. It's fortuitous that his true self is revealed before he does more damage. Also, it's a rare thing that a follower of the likes of Huckabee, Palin or Bachmann ever "get it." Because, after all, many of today's Republicans and Tea Partiers profess their partisanship based on the fact that their great grandparents were Conservative, so they are, too.......duh.
"Oh ye hypocrites and liars, how long must I endure ye."
There are many substantive reasons for not wanting Huckabee to be president and I personally wouldn't want him to be president. But this joke is not something any thoughtful person could possibly take seriously.
Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts
I have recently received a number of emails about how Muslims are supposedly going to annihilate the Christians who won't be converted. What is the difference between that and what Mr. Huckabee said, joke or not, "Americans should be forced at gunpoint to listen to David Barton". If he was joking, he should realize that it was a very inappropriate joke. It was more like an F-U on the American freedoms.
People who think like that, let alone joke like that, especially in public, violate everything it is to be American and all that those who have defended this country. What a shame that a political leader could rip his constituents' rights from them simply by invoking laughter.
Whether or not it was a joke, Mr. Huckabee owes all citizens of the USA, even the Christian right, a huge apology for advocating that America be returned to what we left back in England.
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