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Dreyfuss writes: "It wasn't just Donald Trump who dismissed and rejected charges that Russian spies hacked the election last year. Now we know that pretty much the entire Republican party team did so, too - from the Republican congressional leadership down to GOP Secretaries of State in the states whose local electoral systems were under attack."

Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama. (photo: Dmitry Azarov/Kommersant Photo/Getty Images)
Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama. (photo: Dmitry Azarov/Kommersant Photo/Getty Images)


Latest Russian Hacking Bombshell: Damning Revelations About GOP, Trump

By Bob Dreyfuss, Rolling Stone

25 June 17


It appears Obama administration could have done a lot more to alert the public to Moscow's actions in election interference

t wasn't just Donald Trump who dismissed and rejected charges that Russian spies hacked the election last year. Now we know that pretty much the entire Republican party team did so, too – from the Republican congressional leadership down to GOP Secretaries of State in the states whose local electoral systems were under attack. They blithely served as Vladimir Putin's defense team, even as President Obama's national security aides were uncovering a vast Russian conspiracy to undermine America's electoral process.

That's just one conclusion from a blockbuster investigative piece published Friday by the Washington Post, telling the inside story of the Obama administration's effort to grapple with the evolving Russian hack-and-leak effort in 2016.

But, based on the reporting by the Post, it's safe to say that the Obama administration could have done a lot more – a lot more – to alert the public to Moscow's actions. That they didn't, out of timidity it appears – fearing that to do so would be too, well, political – will forever be a black mark on Obama's White House, the U.S. intelligence community and the FBI. (The FBI, you'll recall, started its inquiry into the Russian attack last July, but kept it secret until former FBI Director James Comey revealed it in March – however Comey didn't mind blabbing last July about the FBI's look-see into Hillary Clinton's email server. Even though that investigation had turned up nothing criminal or even especially noteworthy.)

It's a sordid tale, and presumably there's lots more to come. But the Post story goes a long way toward answering President Trump's June 22nd tweet asking: "If Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn't they stop them?" Now, we know why – or at least we know part of the story.

What we learn from the Post is that it wasn't just the U.S Conspiracy-Theorist-in-Chief, Donald Trump, who denied, deflected and ridiculed charges that Russia was a secret supporter of his (perhaps unwitting, perhaps not) electoral team.

We learn that, in August, when the Obama administration quietly approached Capitol Hill to seek bipartisan support from congressional leaders about the growing evidence of Russian involvement, CIA Director John Brennan couldn't even get top Republicans to meet with him. We learn that when a caravan of top U.S national security officials finally sat down with members of Congress, the GOP – led by Senator Mitch McConnell – flatly refused to cooperate. We learn that when Jeh Johnson, the secretary of homeland security, contacted people in charge of elections in various states whose election data had been possibly compromised, the Republicans in those states blew him off.

And we learn that Denis McDonough, Obama's chief of staff, toyed with the idea of a bipartisan commission to take on the Russia spy effort, the White House concluded that it would be impossible to get the GOP on board.

Besides all that, and it's a lot to digest, we also learn some important clues about the intelligence itself.

There is, of course, a whole segment of the American political class which pooh-poohs the very idea that Russia hacked into the Democratic National Committee, into John Podesta's email account, and state election systems. And it's not just Trump – who just yesterday, again, tweeted about the Russia story: "It's all a big Democratic HOAX!" Plenty of Trumpettes, various fringe and even a few center Republicans agree that it's a non-story. And there's a healthy contingent on the left, too, who fall into the camp of the Denialists, including Stephen P. Cohen of the left-leaning magazine The Nation, whose piece this week says, without any facts: "Recent public statements by Obama's top intelligence officials have indicated, perhaps inadvertently, that Russiagate may have been concocted by those officials. If so, what they have done far exceeds the transgressions of Watergate and should be fully investigated as a truly subversive Intelgate."

What the Post reveals, in passing, is that the Obama administration's charge that Russia hacked the DNC, Podesta et al. wasn't based merely on some remote analysis of the digital trail left behind by Fancy Bear, Cozy Bear and other units allegedly linked to Russia's FSB and GRU spy agencies. (You can, of course, read the whole U.S. intelligence report, prepared and released in January by Obama's Office of the Director of National Intelligence.)

That report – which, by the way, steers entirely clear of the separate question of whether or not Trump, his campaign people, and his business associates, and other hangers-on colluded with Russia – doesn't reveal the underlying intelligence that led to its conclusions.

But the Post article, in its second sentence, states that the administration's conclusion was based on "sourcing deep inside the Russian government." In other words, the United States last year had either human collectors (i.e., spies) or electronic access inside the very heart of Moscow's inner circle – which is how they learned that Putin himself was involved. The Post, it appears, knows more than it's letting on, saying: "The Washington Post is withholding some details of the intelligence at the request of the U.S. government." The Post adds, without more details, that some of the intel about Putin's personal role came via "another country."

It's not at all unusual for the U.S. government to announce conclusions about events overseas without releasing the underlying intelligence, to protect the much-talked-about "sources and methods" that the CIA, the NSA, and other agencies utilize. For those who doubt the assertions in the ODNI report – representing the conclusions of all 17 U.S. spy agencies – it's this failure not to disclose the actual data (photographs, phone and other transcripts, debriefings of spies and agents, and the like ) that allows them to say that nothing has been proven.

But suffice it to say that among those on the Republican defense team, those who've actually had a chance to access that underlying intel – most of which has been made available to the members of both the intelligence committees in the House and Senate – haven't joined the Trump chorus. They're not the ones who suggest, as Trump did – and as Vladimir Putin himself recently declared – that the hacker may have been some overweight, Frito-eating kid. No, they're notoriously silent. So, if the intelligence was truly questionable, GOP members of the two Congressional intelligence committees – and some Democrats, too, we'd hope –would be questioning it. They're not.

The Washington Post provides a depressing tick-tock on how the Obama administration responded as the scope of the Russian attack emerged: direct warnings to the FSB and then to Putin himself, kicking out alleged Russian spies, closing Russian spy facilities outside Washington, imposing sanctions, etc. But the saddest part of the story is that, when the Obama administration had a chance to sound a loud alarm about Russia's role when it mattered – before November 8th – they didn't. Said one former top official quoted by the Post: "I feel like we sort of choked."


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+61 # dusty 2017-06-25 13:41
While progressives piss around lamenting some sort of Russian interference the Trump administrations actions continue to downgrade and destroy the quality of life over millions of Americans to favor the rich and the very upper "middle class". The frigging election is over and now the effort has to go into defeating the efforts by Trump to destroy the safety net -- not wringing hands over the Hillary who committed hari kari by calling the people who were supporting Trump, "deplorables". Now there is something to worry about and correct within the DNC -- get rid of the Hillary supporters before they completely destroy the party base.
 
 
+37 # sbessho 2017-06-26 00:12
Trump is beholden to the Russians; that much is clear by his own actions (never mind his denials). There is something there in the financial web of deals and payoffs that needs to be brought into the light of day. That's what the investigation is about. It's not about somehow vindicating Hillary, even though the things Trump said were far worse and should have meant political suicide for him.
 
 
+6 # lfeuille 2017-06-26 17:03
You should really worry more about Saudi Arabia. They are the ones leading him into war in Yemen and maybe soon in Qatar and are encouraging the hostilies against Russian allies in Syria. Russia is not trying to get us involved in more wars.
 
 
+27 # Caliban 2017-06-26 02:07
It wasn't HRC's "supporters" who made Hillary's mistakes. And she did get more votes than Trumpster even with the mistakes.

I'm all for prepping for 2018-20 in a better, more Bernie-ish way, but beating up on Hillary supporters is not going to help the cause.
 
 
-2 # lfeuille 2017-06-26 17:01
It is necessary. The continue to defend her disastrous campaign strategy and half a loaf policy positions. They continue to blame Russia and sexism and millenials, etc, etc etc. and ignore tt he fact that she herself was main cause of her defeat. They are not getting the message. They follow the stupid blame Russia for everything mantra. You can't have it both ways. Bernie's policies di
verge too sharply from hers are to paper over the difference.
 
 
+1 # librarian1984 2017-06-27 07:26
First, it is not progressives 'beating up' on Hillary people, for goodness sake. The Hillary people were abusive and nasty during the nomination race AND during the election AND since Trump's victory.

Secondly, yes we DO need to settle this. IF the establishment had been willing to examine the cause(s) of our defeat, if they had adapted and changed to accommodtae the lessons of the past year, then we could leave it behind and unite. But they have been unwilling to talk about what happened or why and have, indeed, continued to use a strategy that has failed over and over again.

They are not learning. They have not learned. THAT is why the DP is not unified.
 
 
-74 # ReconFire 2017-06-25 14:04
Oh my god!
Dear Rolling Stone, parroting the CIA infected WoPo is not going to help you're credibility in the news world.
What's next Big Bird knew of Russian hacking, but didn't report it. Dam dirty bird.
 
 
+18 # Kiwikid 2017-06-25 16:44
Interesting response Recon. I don't get unwillingness to trust the oneness of voice from your intelligence agencies. You come out sounding like you're on Putin's payroll. Are you?
 
 
-3 # ReconFire 2017-06-26 18:37
"oneness of voice from your intelligence agencies", hell no I don't trust my intel. agencies, anyone who does is a fool. They've proven time and time again they are not trustworthy.
As far as you're unpatriotic accusation, as my name here states, I've sweat and bled more than the average bear for my country and my fellow citizens. What's you're patriotic credentials?
 
 
+3 # Salus Populi 2017-06-27 20:38
Why all the negative reactions? Have supposedly progressive, or even liberal, posters so completely drunk the KoolAid that they now demand we all toe the line and lavish praise on the perjurers, Stasi-type spies, fixers of intelligence over Iraq's non-existent WMDs, propagandists who, under Reagan, ran campaigns from behind the scenes whose philosophy was that the American people are the enemy?

Every time the U.S. government or its secret police have claimed other countries' governments are lying -- and I can't think of a single exception going back to their creation under the NSA of 1947 -- it has ultimately been established that the foreign government targeted was closer to the truth than "our" government.

Whether it be KGB sponsorship of the attempt on the Pope in 1984, or "we got there just in time" when invading Grenada, or Bush senior or junior or Clinton on Iraq, or the "white powder" "cocaine" of Noriega's kitchen, or the unending lies during the Vietnam War, or the reaction to Israel's Operation Cast Lead, or Clapper's claim before Congress -- rank perjury -- that the NSA doesn't spy on Americans, or the "secret plan" for "honorable withdrawal" of the Nixon candidacy and presidency, or the U.S. missiles in Turkey that, combined with the Bay of Pigs invasion and the lies that we weren't involved, precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis -- truly, trusting these professional liars when they say they have "secret evidence" is a fool's errand. Trust the WaPo?!
 
 
-19 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2017-06-25 16:03
Another Bombshell. ZZZZZZZ. snore, bore. We get a bombshell in our news ever day and they are all the same. "blockbuster investigative piece." First of all it was hardly a "blockbuster." It was not an investigative peice. It was a planted story by the CIA, something the Wapo does all the time. Russia rigged the presidential election -- ZZZZZz ZZZZZZZ, Always the same. No proof. No evidence.

If Obama even saw this story from the CIA, he probably judged that it was bogus and false and so just ignored it.

This is the CIA's lame attempt to mobilize the Obama haters out there to get into the story. Now they can blame it on Obama. The CIA is throwing their "house negro" under the bus or out as bait to his republican haters and racists. That's what news here. I hope Obama lashes back this time. He's doesn't have to be the CIA's "boy" anymore.


Here's something funny in this sotry -- "There is, of course, a whole segment of the American political class which pooh-poohs the very idea that Russia hacked into the Democratic National Committee," Well, no shit. It is a lot more than a segment of the political class. It is everyone with half a functioning brain.
 
 
-25 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2017-06-26 07:50
According to a new Harvard Harris poll, 73% of american voters don't believe this Russiagate story and believe that it is seriously distracting the congress from doing its work.

This is a case of the mainstream media, including Rolling Stone, ramming fake news down our throats. But we are not swallowing. Just because the Wapo has a new Deep Throat, it does not mean that anyone is swallowing except for the journalists who are paid to swallow. Free people don't swallow.
 
 
+12 # Kiwikid 2017-06-26 14:16
Sounds like something Vlad would say
 
 
0 # librarian1984 2017-06-26 20:07
Okay that's twice now. Fact: Just because somebody has a different opinion doesn't mean they're a troll or on Putin's payroll or a Vlad surrogate.

The Hillary people were the ones who trolled and insulted people all during the nomination race, and then during the election .. and continue to do so NOW.

I am super sick of it. Most Bernie supporters are too nice to fight back. But I'm not.

Find something substantive to say. Quit the name calling and smearing. McCarthyism is dead .. or SHOULD be. This is a discussion forum. People can disagree, and they should be able to without being smeared.

I will live through Trump. Most of US will. But I don't see how the DP can survive this schism between principled progressives and the low-road, reality-avoidin g, poorly behaved neoliberals.

The progressives were always ready to be persuaded, while establishment types had only one tactic: abuse.
 
 
0 # Jaax88 2017-07-02 10:44
I wonder who you are to speak out. Your efforts got us trump as a terrible president with his money minded agenda which is likely to put millions at risk due to denying climate change, give us a ridged right wing ideologue for a Supreme Court Justice in Gorsuch, a lying disaster for a Attorney General, danger on the streets by trump's willingness to invoke violence as a means of handling problems, support for the NRA and many other negative ideas and policies that will injure America.
 
 
+3 # lfeuille 2017-06-26 17:11
This isn't exactly true. They are withholding judgment on the truth of Russia-gate, they just don't think it is very important compared to domestic financial issues like healthcare and jobs which effect them directly and they resent Democrats spending so much time and energy on it. There is a good article by Norman Solomon in Consortium News today about it:

Democrats Face Failing Russia-gate Scheme
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/26/democrats-face-failing-russia-gate-scheme/
 
 
+10 # Texas Aggie 2017-06-26 08:55
" everyone with half a functioning brain."

But that's all they have. Other people with a whole functioning brain including the frontal cortex realize that this is a problem.
 
 
0 # Jaax88 2017-07-02 10:34
To hell with your false "facts," and outrageous and nonsensical opinions. The good thing about what you write is that you are an open troll indicating to the more thoughtful, honest and concerned citizens the danger that lurks behind the motives and mind-set you and the comradely deplorables you stand in for have for a decent, enviable America..
 
 
+1 # tedrey 2017-06-25 20:11
'Stephen P. Cohen of the left-leaning magazine The Nation, . . . says, without any facts: "Recent public statements by Obama's top intelligence officials have indicated, perhaps inadvertently, that Russiagate may have been concocted by those officials"'

Except that Cohen does present several very relevant facts which this author doesn't want you to examine. See:

https://www.thenation.com/article/was-a-cuban-missile-crisis-averted-in-syria-the-trans-atlantic-alliance-ruptured-and-intelgate-exposed/
 
 
-10 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2017-06-26 08:04
ted -- thanks for the link. I'd not seen it. It is a good summary of the problems with the Russiagate story. The article concludes:

"Cohen wonders why mainstream media outlets have not explored these revelations by an apparently paranoid CIA director, an ethnically biased director of National Intelligence, and an admittedly duplicitous FBI chief. Instead, those outlets have simply ignored these statements and continued to parrot the core allegation of Russiagate. "

Clearly the mass media has been tasked with ramming this fake news down the throats of Americans and, indeed, the people of the world. What a job.
 
 
-1 # Realist1948 2017-06-28 06:38
WRT "Clearly the mass media has been tasked with ramming this fake news down the throats of Americans..." Tasked by whom? Yours is the sort of remark I'd expect to see in the comments on a Breitbart article, perhaps posted by a fan of Alex Jones. IMHO there are far too many people who now believe in a fantasized conspiracy involving the Associated Press, Thompson Reuters, the BBC, PBS, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. I find this idea ludicrous.
 
 
+1 # tedrey 2017-06-28 11:28
Note that the Seymour Hersh article which Salus Populi refers to below has already been fully reported in media all over the world, including the U.S, but not by the NYT, Wa Po, and most of the outlets you list. Seemingly you only consult American mass media.
 
 
-2 # Realist1948 2017-06-28 13:26
Are you aware that BBC stands for British Broadcasting Corporation? British, as in Great Britain. You know, that big island that is the home of the United Kingdom. There is a city there called London. London was the headquarters of Reuters, before it became part of Thompson Reuters. Thompson Reuters is based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. That makes them "American" in the sense of "North American" but Thompson Reuters is still largely a British organization. Seemingly you don't know much about mass media or geography.
 
 
+4 # Salus Populi 2017-06-27 20:51
You should also check out the exposé in Counterpunch based on the always-reliable and diligent journalist Seymour Hersh, as to the deliberate lies that were used to justify the "retaliation" against a non-existent chemical attack in Syria.

Since the Anglo-Saxon media is, as usual, in lockstep with the foreign policy establishment -- the empire builders, if you will -- Hersh had to go to the German magazine Die Welt for publication of his research, even though an English speaking outlet had paid for the project. It didn't want to publish the results for fear that it would damage its own credibility.

Imagine, publishing Hersh is now a sign of disloyalty and parroting Putin. What is still more extraordinary is that by and large, the progressive community has leaped on the bandwagon as it hurtles toward an inevitable war with nuclear-armed Russia.

Whatever happened to the skepticism that used to accompany unsourced and anonymous smears by our homegrown Stasi?
 
 
-3 # Realist1948 2017-06-28 14:37
Historian and former John F. Kennedy aide Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. called Hersh "the most gullible investigative reporter I've ever encountered." Although Hersh did win a Pulitzer Prize, that was 47 years ago. Should we believe Hersh when it comes to his writings on Syria? I honestly don't know.
 
 
+4 # mashiguo 2017-06-25 21:37
"In other words, the United States last year had either human collectors (i.e., spies) or electronic access inside the very heart of Moscow's inner circle"

?!?!?!?!?!?!?
And that's OK??????
Does no one see the irony here?????

How about we deal with policy issues and with hacking of our own elections by our own parties?
Is that too much to ask?

The Democrat party is dead, and it just seems to want to keep hammering more nails into its own coffin.
 
 
-7 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2017-06-26 07:56
Well and the CIA is also burning its source "deep inside the Kremlin." If a story like this came out in Russia and identified sources and methods even if in a vague way, there would be lie-detector texts and internal investigations of everyone to find the mole. Russia will do the same. You can tell how desperate the CIA is since it was willing to reveal its sources and methods and burn those sources and methods.

Consortiumnews. org has a good story today, "Democrats Face Failing Russia-gate Scheme." All of this was a gamble by democrats and the CIA to defeat or control Trump. They are failing. It was just too reckless and poorly thought through.

The democratic party will probably never recover. The CIA will just move on. Fake news has been its stock in trade for decades.
 
 
+37 # solartopia.org 2017-06-25 21:57
all american elections are now totally compromised by the stripping of voter rolls with Jim Crow computer programs like Crosscheck, and the flipping of electronic voting machines by any secretary of state who feels like doing it.

whether the russians are part of this Grand Game remains to be seen. but until we face the inconvenient truth that our elections are a total sham, we have nothing resembling a democracy or even a government.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2017-06-26 23:08
It would indeed be easy to flip elections if the other side isn't watching.

But the "other sides" -- no matter what their party -- ARE watching -- if they care about winning.

I mean which campaign organizations have not read Palast, Wasserman, and Fitrakis by now, assuming any of them needed these fine journalists to tell them what was going on.

In the end, cheating wins far fewer elections than strong candidates and attractive policy proposals. And nothing in these recent articles on voter fraud has shown otherwise.
 
 
+31 # twocents 2017-06-25 22:37
While various factions hem and has about Russian interference,TO P Secretaries of State are using the Crosscheck program to disenfranchise millions of voters of color and others presumed to be left-leaning. E9 states are now in the process of rigging the voting lists to ensure GOP victories. The democracy is no more.
 
 
+13 # 11brenda11 2017-06-25 23:29
I wouldn't doubt for a minute that the entire Republican Party echelon, the officers of the Trump campaign group, and a select number of the Rethugnican congressmen all knew about this. WHAT REALLY BUGS ME is that no one in charge of investigating this Republican circle-jerk conspiracy probably wont do a damn thing about it. There should be warrants and subpoenas issued to the whole filthy lot. And they should be tried for treason.
 
 
+14 # wrknight 2017-06-25 23:51
Unfortunately, I really don't know what to believe. I still have a vivid recollection of all those weapons of mass destruction that were reported by the WP and NYT which, for me, completely destroyed their credibility.

Maybe they did and maybe they didn't, but at this point, there's bigger fish that need frying. I have to agree with Dusty. We have a lot to do ahead of us if we want to avoid George Orwell's 1984 scenario. But sadly, I don't think the DNC is up to the task.
 
 
+7 # MidwestDick 2017-06-25 23:52
Russkies hacked it. Trump is one of theirs.
Many wise and well meaning people didn't believe it because ... well, the CIA said it.
Stopped clock, etc...
It is possible that the whole Russkies hacked us thing is bullshit, but anyone that moves forward with this idea is doomed to irrelevance. That political battle is over. History will produce the truth..sort of, as it usually does.
Now is time to focus on the real shit the party in power is putting us through and not be distrracted by the Spy V Spy sideshow.
 
 
+13 # sbessho 2017-06-26 00:07
Which is the most plausible conspiracy theory--that the Russians and Republicans are in cahoots to subvert US democracy for short-term political gain and international influence? Or that the story of the Russian/Republi can conspiracy is itself the product of a conspiracy between intelligence agencies and the Democrats? Maybe the question to ask is Who gains by muddying the waters with these competing claims? Whose shenanigans are going unobserved as a result?
 
 
+14 # ahollman 2017-06-26 00:44
Rank the following 3 in terms of their unreasonable and inappropriate influence on US national elections.
1. Congressional gerrymandering.
2. The large amounts of money contributed to Congressional and Presidential candidates by large corporations and wealthy individuals.
3. The Russians.

Notice: I put the Russians #3.
 
 
0 # MidwestDick 2017-06-26 09:38
Jim Crow voter suppression 3.
Jim Comey voter suppression 4.
Russkies 5.
And actually the Russkies were just part of an enormous effort carried out in Congress to discredit Hillary.
Please note that Warren is keeping her head down, but as she emerges as the likely, the shitstorm will start.
 
 
+5 # wrknight 2017-06-26 19:35
It's not just congressional gerrymandering, it's the states' legislatures gerrymandering. It's the state legislators that do the redistricting, not the congressional representatives . They do it first for themselves to guarantee their own re-election and then for the "party". And since Republicans fully control 32 of the states' legislatures, they can guarantee a majority representation in Congress.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2017-06-26 23:11
Good corrective. And even #3 may be on the inflated side when it comes to actual election victories.
 
 
+23 # ericlane 2017-06-26 04:14
What remains hard to understand is the Republicans. If there ever was a party that fed off the fears of Russia, it was the Republican Party. Now they are in bed with them. What it shows is that the Republicans have absolutely no moral compass. The only thing that matters to them is power to give tax breaks to the rich. And, through privatization, everything else as well. As long as Americans keep electing Republicans, we are headed toward, if not already there, a banana republic.
 
 
+1 # lfeuille 2017-06-26 17:14
Nobody but McCain and Lindsey Graham really believe or at least believe it really matters. That was during the cold war. this is now.
 
 
+9 # Time Traveller 2017-06-26 04:36
Clearly our system of government is broken from top to bottom. Too many people are clueless as to how BIG Big Brother is, so they can't see the forest for the trees.

But with trillions of dollars in play, following the damned Money Trail thru our entire military industrial financial media academic congressional judicial executive complex is as easy as following a giant D-10 bulldozer thru a crowded Christmas tree farm in the snow, people!
 
 
-15 # Rodion Raskolnikov 2017-06-26 06:02
According to the Hill, a large majority of US citizens find this Russia-Trump story to be "fake news" and believe that it is distracting the nation from the really important business.

"But far more — 73 percent — say they’re concerned that the Russia probes have caused Congress to lose focus on the issues important to them. That figure encompasses 81 percent of Republicans, 74 percent of independents and 68 percent of Democrats."


We know why the Russiagate stories were launched in the first place -- it was a CIA/Hillary campaign team tactic to smear Trump and win the election. That failed. Then the Russiagate fake news was hauled out again in order to drive a huge wedge between Trump and Russia and turn his foreign policies toward those of the neo-cons and generals. That on is working but it has about reached the end of its usefulness.

So only about 20-something percent of Americans are suckers for this fake news and CIA disinformation campaign. Why is the mass media about 80-90% sucked into this fake news?

The three most distrusted institutions in the US are: 1. the US congress, 2. the mass madia, 3. the Pentagon.
 
 
+1 # oakes721 2017-06-26 08:33
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Putin is looking more and more 'presidential' all the time...
.
Our house is on FIRE and republicans can only think to roast marshmallows, whistle blowers and leaks about arsonists.
.
 
 
+4 # Kulak 2017-06-26 11:04
I think you mean "a large majority of Republicans" NOT "a large majority of U.S. citizens" don't credit the Russian interference story.
And it's silly to say that the Russia story was leaked by the Dems to win the election. EVERYBODY was sure that Trump was going to lose, and he very likely would have if Comey had stayed out of it.
As far as Congress--what fantasist could believe that those tools of the 1% have any interest on focusing "on the issues important to them" (the public at large)?
 
 
0 # Shaas 2017-06-26 11:16
With "Russian spies hacked the election...", you want to say that they uncovered and publisized the undemocratic and unlawful happenings at the Democratic Party DNC - a thing that should have been uncovered by FBI?

Probably FBI did know about it but they did not publisize it.
 
 
+1 # dusty 2017-06-26 12:23
So often we forget when dealing with these stories from the "intelligence" (oxymoron) community that these are the same people who swore there were "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq" to foster our invasion and destruction of that nations infrastructure as well as kill a lot of plain old folks. Then this same intelligence community had us funding Al Qaeda and ISIS groups in Syria, etc. Our democracy is in very serious trouble -- our military-indust rial-intelligen ce (MII) complex believe they have the right to lie to we the people that they are supposed to serve. The existential threat to our Constitutional nation is our own MII that cares nothing about democracy, just their budget and power.
 
 
+1 # Realist1948 2017-06-28 16:58
Your words about the intelligence community and Iraqi WMD echo a common misconception. The George W Bush administration set up their own "intelligence" operation to essentially go around normal channels and manufacture their own "intelligence." . Magazine "Mother Jones" had an excellent in-depth article about this back in 2004. See "The Lie Factory" at
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory/
 
 
+8 # boomerjim 2017-06-26 13:03
The GOP was not the Obama Administration' s "loyal opposition," and it is not now our loyal master. It is by and large a self-interested machine that has done what it can to destroy democracy. It serves the interests of the wealthy either (or both) because of an attachment to a fantasy ideology of "free-markets," or (more likely) because GOP politicians plan to make much money as lobbyists once they are finished destroying the country as pols. They talk a game of patriotism while damaging the nation.

As to the fantasy of free markets, the only place that has actually been enacted recently was in the wake of the break up of the Soviet Union wen Milton Friedman's theories were adopted there, leading to a total economic collapse and the rise of gangsterism that has culminated in the current kleptocracy under Putin.

I remember back when many GOP pols could be seen as good-intentione d, albeit wrongheaded, actors worthy of some respect. But I've grown old now and may have faulty memories. ;-)
 
 
-2 # librarian1984 2017-06-26 17:11
Latest Russian Bombshell!!! Here It Comes!!

Wait for it!

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Okay previews are OVER. Now it's time for the Real. True. Evidence.

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Oops. Time's up. Tune in tomorrow, suckers!
 
 
0 # Questioneer 2017-06-27 14:54
QUESTIONEER-- The logic of many of these commenters escapes me. There are many reasons to question the strategy, tone and actions of the Clinton campaign, and to have favored a different candidate. But that does not explain WHY those real or perceived political offenses justify these commenters easy, flippant or impassioned dismissal of either proved or credibly suspected efforts to undermine the US electoral process. No one is suggesting that anyone must accept as proven whatever is offered as the basis for suspicion of and inquiry into possible intervention by Russians. But their easy and ungrounded dismissal of those possibilities bears a weird parallel to an even more troubling actor on our national stage whose preferred strategy is simply to disparage the credibility of any information that does not fit his biases.
 
 
0 # tedrey 2017-06-28 11:53
I do not dismiss "either proved or credibly suspected efforts to undermine the US electoral process" when any is available. Innuendo, anonymous sources, and claims by intelligence officials who already should have been fired for lying to Congress do not count.
 
 
-1 # Salus Populi 2017-06-28 16:39
Indeed.

To me, the most convincing case for extreme skepticism, aside from the history of the agencies and personnel making the allegations, as I posted upstream -- and note that even the announcement last January that the "unanimous" conclusion of *all* the intelligence agencies regarding the purported interference was a blatant lie, which hardly inspires confidence that the leopards have changed their spots -- is the information of ex-NSA legend William Binney, who designed the bulk of the systems in use today, and has stated categorically that the NSA has the capability of tracking all internet communications to their source, and has had it for years.

This means they could pinpoint exactly who "hacked" and gave the information to WikiLeaks -- if there *was* hacking. Julian Assange, the founder and head of WikiLeaks, has said the information was not hacked but delivered to WikiLeaks by a disgruntled insider at the DNC.

If the NSA knows otherwise -- and Assange has not once been proven to lie about any of his sources in the 12 years WikiLeaks has been around -- why have they not, "sources and methods" be damned, especially since Edward Snowden has already let that litter of kitties out of the bag, simply presented the raw data, fingered the exact source, and published the proof? As Binney said, they have that capability.

There is also the sinister possibility, as shown in more recent Wiki releases, that the CIA mimicked the CIS signature.

False flags, anyone?
 
 
0 # librarian1984 2017-06-28 19:12
We have known for twenty years that blackbox voting, voter roll purges, machine movement, obstruction, theft, gerrymandering, voter ID, CrossCheck and the electoral college have decimated election integrity in this country -- yet neither party has moved to correct ANY of these problems -- nor does the press. They won't even talk about it, even though the polls often don't match the vote -- and the Democrats figured out how to 'fix' that -- they cancelled the polling! The Democrats!!

We can see that the Russians have been blamed for hacking our election -- but no trustworthy evidence has been produced for months -- and every charge has become a dead end.

Further, there are easily discernible political motivations for the Russia hysteria -- for Democrats, the GOP and the msm.

We also note that in ALL the excited talk about our elections, not one pol or media outlet has talked about the multitude of internal problems mentioned above.

It has becomes obvious we're being manipulated and no one intends to do anything to improve the process.
 
 
+1 # Jaax88 2017-07-04 23:58
I wonder who you are to speak out. Your efforts got us trump as a terrible president with his money minded agenda which is likely to put millions at risk due to denying climate change, give us a ridged right wing ideologue for a Supreme Court Justice in Gorsuch, a lying disaster for a Attorney General, danger on the streets by trump's willingness to invoke violence as a means of handling problems, support for the NRA and many other negative ideas and policies that will injure America.
 

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