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Seipel writes: "Director Michael Moore on Friday warned Democrats that while the decision to pull the Republican ObamaCare repeal bill was worth celebrating, it wasn't time 'to gloat' but the opportunity 'for the resistance to step forward.'"

The filmmaker Michael Moore, near a closed factory in Flint, Mich., where his father worked. (photo: Fabrizio Costantini/NYT)
The filmmaker Michael Moore, near a closed factory in Flint, Mich., where his father worked. (photo: Fabrizio Costantini/NYT)


Michael Moore to Dems: Now Is Not the Time to Gloat

By Brooke Seipel, The Hill

26 March 17

 

irector Michael Moore on Friday warned Democrats that while the decision to pull the Republican ObamaCare repeal bill was worth celebrating, it wasn't time "to gloat" but the opportunity "for the resistance to step forward."

Republicans abandoned their effort to repeal ObamaCare Friday, when Trump and Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) agreed to pull the measure as it became clear they didn't have the votes. Trump said it would make political sense to let ObamaCare fail and hang it on the Democrats.

Moore, in an interview with MSNBC's Chris Hayes, said Democrats shouldn't take Trump's word as an empty threat, but get ready to fight back.

"This is not the time for the Democrats to gloat," Moore said. "This is the time we have to now double down. Please understand that Trump is telling you the truth when he tells you that ObamaCare is going to explode or implode ... they are going to actively make sure that that happens."

Moore said that it was time for people to look to progressive leaders such as Bernie Sanders to push for the fixes to ObamaCare that are wanted by Trump supporters, "the working poor" and "working class."

He also said Trump supporters are starting to see that the president isn't delivering on promises.

"A lot of people... they're getting it. They're getting that they were lied to," Moore said. "A lot of promises were held out to them that aren't going to come true. And they saw just how transparent the Republicans and Trump were with this bill.

"This was a tax cut bill for the rich, not a healthcare bill. This was an attempt now to try and kill ObamaCare in actually more cruel ways because they're going to try to nip and tuck and cut HHS to get in the way of what ObamaCare does."

Moore has been an outspoken critic of President Trump, often calling on people to protest the president's agenda and Republican policies. In his interview Friday, he continued to call for grassroots protests against the president, and fights to fix ObamaCare.


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+1 # Saberoff 2017-03-26 09:58
Michael, What are you working on?
 
 
0 # madame de farge 2017-03-28 05:02
I hope he is working on defeating Gorsuch, that corporate sycophant who will overturn any laws that are public good oriented...Afte r all, why would he want to prevent more Love Canals and PCBs...
 
 
+18 # giraffee23 2017-03-26 09:59
Agree with MM. And Dems can and should use the GOP failure on Repeal and Replace WAS the benefit to the ULTRA rich AND play on this theme when Trump tries to "reform" taxes - because the (again) the ultra rich are the ONLY ones who will benefit.
 
 
+10 # John Cosmo 2017-03-26 20:32
Even better, the Dems should start working on fixing what's wrong with the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and on plans for a public option.
 
 
+11 # kalpal 2017-03-26 10:24
I feel certain that Trump supporters who are not personally harmed by his actions will ever abandon him. He promised to be their savior and to punish all the impoverished criminals out there. The rich criminals are people he idolizes so no harm will come to them.
 
 
+20 # futhark 2017-03-26 11:12
Once again, Michael Moore tells it like it is. Any former Trump supporters who have been paying attention to the politics going on to replace the Affordable Health Care Act with Trumpcare will have to admit they have been played for dupes. Yes, the ACHA is flawed and deserves to be replaced. Democrats should seize the opportunity of public interest to seriously get behind a single payer program.
 
 
+7 # Annette Saint John Lawrence 2017-03-26 17:36
It is time for the citizenry to wake up. You can stop our Republican/Demo crat child games and get to the reality that what a mentally unstable man wants to take away everything that you and I held precious about what America was about? You want the security of healthcare and clean air to breath and pure water to drink and fixed road & bridges etc. Those thing do not have a Party label. It is about the that which is for the common good. What part of equality & justice for all do you not understand?. Think - what are our needs to have a form of safety and comfort. We with the exception of the mentally impaired who they say will follow a madman seeking only to enrich his fortune (and every one who knows him knows that), think he is going to save them. So did the people who raised Hitler up as their savior believed the same thing. See where that got them. And if you are one who didn't get a decent education in school, then go to your library.. Go to your search engine and type in "critical thinking skills" . You learn by practicing
 
 
+25 # Greg Scott 2017-03-26 11:38
The defeat of Trumpcare is not a vindication, it's an opportunity.

There were always problems with the ACA and the Republicans...a nd the Republican justices on the Supreme court...took every opportunity to weaken it.

So don't let those corporate Dems who took out the public option set the agenda. You wanna make healthcare less expensive? Repeal the prohibition against Medicare negotiating prices with the drug companies. Make the insurance companies actually compete.

Bernie is about to introduce legislation for single payer healthcare in the Senate and House. He knows it won't pass but he also knows that the conversation has changed.

Republicans can't get away any more with riling up people against something that does them good, simply because a black man enacted it.
 
 
+12 # Saberoff 2017-03-26 14:19
"So don't let those corporate Dems who took out the public option set the agenda. You wanna make healthcare less expensive? Repeal the prohibition against Medicare negotiating prices with the drug companies. Make the insurance companies actually compete."

Taking out the public option is not all the Democrats did. Bernie already ran "(Repealing) the prohibition against Medicare negotioating prices with drug companies" up the flagpole. It was the Democrats (13 of them) that killed the bill!

And it's thumbs-up-time for Greg Scott!
 
 
0 # Bloomington 2017-03-28 09:04
I never understood why NOT allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices was promoted as a good thing. My Dem congressman at the time ACA was being debated was proud to say he worked to make sure that ACA would not be allowed to negotiate prices at Medicare's rate.
 
 
+18 # Wise woman 2017-03-26 11:38
Moore is absolutely spot on. Now is the time to continually engage your elected officials in Washington if anything comes up from the sociopaths in the republican party that doesn't help the 99 percent. Enough with their greed and destruction!
 
 
+17 # Robbee 2017-03-26 12:10
high time for people to look to progressive leaders to push for the fixes to ObamaCare that are wanted by Trump supporters, "the working poor" and "working class." - go bernie!
 
 
+14 # Moxa 2017-03-26 13:39
Whether or not Bernie affiliates himself with the fossilized Democratic party, his new-found visibility is allowing his voice to be heard by greater numbers of people, including Republicans. Americans want single payer health care--who wouldn't? By bringing up the issue--along with other never before uttered ideas like free college tuition and $15 minimum wage--Bernie is allowing the obvious desirability of these ideas to be recognized. As they become familiar and accepted, the ideas will gradually become expected and demanded.

However, don't expect any leadership to come from the Dems. It will come from the people. This is Bernie's revolution, which is beginning to happen despite his not becoming president. Normal people are naturally attuned to the truth when once it is articulated. It is only the politicians who
are a bit slower to catch on.
 
 
+15 # librarian1984 2017-03-26 17:30
Wrong, Michael. This is not the time to settle for fixing ObamaCare. This is the time to demand single payer.

Trump needs a win and he wants to be loved. He's angry with Ryan and the Freedom caucus. Democrats should start out calling for Medicare for all. We have to make the politicians try. Then we'll see what Trump says.

Single payee is the only way to put it in place quickly, save money and cover everyone. If we wind up with ACA fixes, fine, but that's not what our initial demand should be. Does anybody know how to negotiate anymore?

Trump is ready to deal and the people's eyes are finally focused on healthcare. I'm even hearing conservatives on CSPAN calling for single payer. We have to try.

Demand Medicare for all!
 
 
+1 # Annette Saint John Lawrence 2017-03-26 17:38
It is time for the citizenry to wake up. You can stop our Republican/Demo crat child games and get to the reality that what a mentally unstable man wants to take away everything that you and I held precious about what America was about? You want the security of healthcare and clean air to breath and pure water to drink and fixed road & bridges etc. Those thing do not have a Party label. It is about the that which is for the common good. What part of equality & justice for all do you not understand?. Think - what are our needs to have a form of safety and comfort. We with the exception of the mentally impaired who they say will follow a madman seeking only to enrich his fortune (and every one who knows him knows that), think he is going to save them. So did the people who raised Hitler up as their savior believed the same thing. See where that got them. And if you are one who didn't get a decent education in school, then go to your library.. Go to your search engine and type in "critical thinking skills" . You learn by practicing
 
 
+1 # Annette Saint John Lawrence 2017-03-26 19:02
Robert Reich "Trump a loser"

We could use a few more losses. Trump is a legend in his own mind. Finally a loss that hopefully put a crack in belief that he is superior to everyone else living. I am a certified Neurolinguistic Practitioner. I pay attention to body language.Recent ly I was watching a piece on that was Trump at a meeting with all these big wigs. All the men were sitting straight up and Trump was bent forward listening I suppose . He had the look on his face of someone who is absolutely Lost and Clueless & insecure because he didn't know they were talking about. In another frame they show him walking with some guest official from another Country -with Trump donned in his snake oil clothes selling his delution of himself and looking for a way to make mega bucks for himself at the expense of the American people.. It is well documented
that is what he does.
 
 
+1 # PeacefulGarden 2017-03-27 05:50
I love neurolinguistic s also. I am just a student though. It is because I am a musician. I love nonverbal communication.

The tonality and rhythmic patterning of a person's voice is also extremely important.

I have noticed that Trump,s body language is that of a drug addict who is hiding his high. I think he is on something.
 
 
-1 # librarian1984 2017-03-27 09:21
I think for non-psychologis ts you both are jumping to some outrageous conclusions about Trump, and that goes for people who say he's a sociopath or a psychopathh too. Not even an experienced psychologist would make such diagnoses from a distance.

Bill Clinton was charming, people say W could be a lot of fun, and Obama had a great smile .. but what did any of them do for US?

People on shows who've met Trump have said they're struck by how different he is in public, where he is bombastic. They say he is quite charming in person. Hell, people say Hillary seems almost human in private.

If one wants to criticize based on actions and words that seems fair. But to say the man is insane, etc. is beyond the pale and frankly makes us look like whiners and sore losers. The guy was elected. He is the president. Fight him on the issues, not on bogus, petulant character assassination. We watched the GOP's efforts to demonize and delegitimize Clinton and Obama, and we said it wasn't right. So why are we doing the same thing? Especially when we can beat him ON THE ISSUES.
 
 
0 # PeacefulGarden 2017-03-27 18:27
Sorry. He is out of his mind. He is Mad King George. I love the new stuff from Jared, the bit about making Government more like a business. Yep, that is what we need. Our government to profit off of the people it is serving.

Any sane individual, who would have to engage in a conversation with Mad King George, after 5 minutes of exchange, would quickly realize he is out of his mind.

There is nothing you can say to change my mind.
 
 
0 # kyzipster 2017-03-28 07:46
"In the several days since psychologist John Gartner posted a petition on Facebook declaring that Donald Trump must be removed from office because he has “a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States,” more than 18,000 psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals have signed their agreement."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/brainstorm/201701/shrinks-battle-over-diagnosing-donald-trump
 
 
0 # kyzipster 2017-03-28 07:57
I think he's clearly a narcissist. Most people have narcissistic traits and it's a spectrum. Someone on the extreme end, narcissistic personality disorder, can be dangerous. They cannot accept any information that might negate their belief in their own perfection and entitlement. They will attempt to destroy anyone who might challenge it, if not in a position to destroy, they will reject this person absolutely.

Trump embracing fake news about the number of people at his inauguration and voter fraud accounting for losing to Clinton by 3 million votes is not some political strategy, imo, it's his reality. It shows how petty and self centered he is. It's very dangerous considering the scenarios he will be presented with over the next 4 years as POTUS. I think the media and mental health professionals have a responsibility to debate this issue. This is not politics as usual.
 
 
0 # heartofnests 2017-03-27 06:47
If we are ever fortunate enough to elect a President of the caliber of Michael Moore, who is truly a man of the people, and/or Bernie Sanders on the same ticket (!) we would finally be taking the country in the right direction. The Problem with a capital P is the Democratic Party bigwigs, who are NOT FOR THE PEOPLE. They are just as elitist and narcissistic as the Republicans. Worse.
 
 
+2 # davehaze 2017-03-27 09:12
NATIONAL HEALTH CARE!! YEAH!!

Oh, did you see the face of the Democratic Party Senator Charles Schumer on the talk shows. He wants Donald Trump to join him in protecting and expanding Obamacare. Now that's a leader! A sleepy-eyed, mumbly-mouth leader offering compromise after a rare win, he had no part in. Fantasy! Now that's a way to Inspire your base.

BERNIE BERNIE!! YEAH!
 

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