Suebsaeng writes: "If TrumpCare dies, the White House won't forget who killed it - and plans on keeping a 'shit list' of Republicans who stood in their way."
Donald Trump and Steve Bannon. (photo: Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty)
Bannon Tells Trump: 'Keep a Shit List' of Republicans Who Opposed You
24 March 17
Trumpcare is in trouble and if it fails, Steve Bannon has pledged to remember who defied the White House.
f TrumpCare dies, the White House won�t forget who killed it � and plans on keeping a �shit list� of Republicans who stood in their way.
According to multiple Trump administration officials speaking to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity to talk freely, the president is angry that his first big legislative push is crumbling before his eyes�and his chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon is advising him to take names and keep a hit list of Republicans who worked for Trumpcare�s defeat.
�[Bannon] has told the president to keep a shit list on this,� one official told The Daily Beast. �He wants a running tally of [the Republicans] who want to sink this�Not sure if I�d call it an �enemies list,� per se, but I wouldn�t want to be on it.�
One aide described it as a proposed �hit list� for Republicans not sufficiently loyal. Courses of action stemming from any related tally is yet to be determined, but the idea and message is that �we�ll remember you.�
Two senior Trump administration officials with direct knowledge of the process told The Daily Beast that Bannon and Trump have taken a �you�re either with us or against us� approach at this point, and that Bannon wants the tally of �against� versus �with us� mounted in his so-called West Wing �war room.�
�Burn the boats,� Bannon (in his typical, pugnacious style) advised Trump, according to one official involved. Burning one�s boats is a reference to when military commanders in hostile territories order his or her troops to destroy their own ships, so that they have to win or die trying.
Sources also said that others including Mick Mulvaney, Trump's director of the Office of Management and Budget and co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus, endorsed the idea of the running list, and that Trump agreed with the idea.
Emails to the White House and Bannon seeking comment were not immediately returned.
Freedom Caucus members, of course, are no strangers to barely-veiled threats from Trumpworld, and have remained undeterred this week by earlier attempts. On Tuesday, when Trump made his high-profile visit to Capitol Hill to try to rally Republicans to get behind his and Ryan�s plan, Trump specifically called out Rep. Mark Meadows, chairman of the Freedom Caucus, several times. According to those in the room, the president made it clear that he expected Meadows� vote and support when push comes to shove. (As of Friday late morning, Meadows is saying he�s not budging yet.)
�Mark, I�m coming after you,� Trump said, only half-jokingly, on Tuesday.
Freedom Caucus aides said they were similarly unperturbed on Friday. One simply responded to The Daily Beast�s question regarding potentially getting on Trump and Bannon�s �shit list� with one word: �Meh.�
�From day 1 in this fight, conservatives have been far more focused on keeping their promises and doing what�s best for their constituents versus any hypothetical political challenges,� another conservative congressional aide said. �That remains unchanged.�
Republican House members jumping ship on the AHCA, both in the hardline-right and so-called �moderate� camps, are hardly alone in their buyer�s remorse. On Thursday night, The New York Times reported that Trump himself has told four people close to him that he regrets going along with Speaker Ryan�s plan.
Bannon, for his part, is hardly pleased with the bill as it stands. According to Trump administration officials, Bannon himself hates the current AHCA��he thinks it�s a piece of shit�and he told me as such,� one source described bluntly. �But, I mean, he's not going against [the president].�
If Trumpcare/Ryancare goes down in flames, a great share of the blame will inevitably be shoveled onto Speaker Ryan and House GOP leadership�a Republican leadership that just two short years ago Bannon was calling out as �all cunts.�
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in 2016 hillary beat dickhead in each debate! - so what? it didn't matter! it didn't count!
debates are not places where dickhead? or anyone debating against him? loses an election
this minute? isn't dickhead honing his attacks on bernie? and biden? in today's speeches? in today's tweets? a new spin every day? - free-associatin g the latest breitbart? to the latest cable news?
*unless we are not paying attention* we know -
1. what conspiracy theories dickhead will campaign against bernie! and biden! *Note* IT DOESN'T MATTER if the conspiracy theories are lies; IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER if you can prove the conspiracy theories are lies!
dickhead is a demagogue - he slings alternative facts with the worst
2. it takes time to fend off conspiracy theories; no theory can be absolutely disproven; just to phrase a conspiracy theory creates some doubt in the mind of the hearer; and absolute conviction in one who hears what s/he wants to hear
3. it takes time for bernie to explain policies
whereas relying not on policies but "soul?" biden has a lower burden of persuasion!
4. if you believe debate performance matters? watch joe whip paul ryan's butt in 2012
5. pramila needs to compare the dollars of "medicare for all" with "public option"
1.Throw out a bunch of conspiracy theories, doesn't matter if they are true as long as they damage the opponent.(Russi a, Ukraine) Meanwhile the democrats actually paid for the fake Russian born dossier on Trump and there is a yet to be investigated actual scandal involving Biden in Ukraine.
2.It does take time to fend off phony accusations. 3 years on Russia, and a year of impeachment garbage that weakened the country and produced nothing. (democrats played right into Putin's hands on that one)
3.It does take time to explain policies. Try to kill the conversation by calling the opposition racist, misogynists, homophobic, xenophobic, etc. It is easier to just tell everyone that everything will be free in the new socialist paradise. Just make sure you don't try to explain how you will pay for it. (Warren learned that lesson the hard way)
4.Did he get the questions in advance like Hillary did?
5. Just outright lie about what you want to do, don't worry the media has your back. There is no public option on the table with Bernie. It is government healthcare. That means the the medicare program will no longer exist in it's present form and everyone who has employer sponsored healthcare will no longer have it, and it will be replaced by a government program. (don't worry though, it has worked out well for our veterans.
In America in my home city of Philadelphia a major teaching hospital (Hahnemann University Hospital) closed in July 2019. Last week another Philadelphia hospital announced the closing of its in-patient facility. Rural hospitals, as well as urban hospitals, depend on Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements, which are inadequate to cover costs. Many hospitals are cutting services like obstetrics.
The American healthcare system costs much more per-person than European systems.
Medicare-For-All would be a good start for reducing costs and improving service and health outcomes.
I'm not voting for ANY evil anymore, as it screws us just the same as Trump and Bush. These corporate hacks use pretty words instead of vulgarity and people have figured them out, hence we get Trump. I will show the DNC the same "unity" they have shown me for at least 30 years: disdain, derision, and contempt
His association with the "centrist" Obama, who did nothing special about the Climate Crisis and INCREASED the nuclear threat while maintaining and in some cases expanding the warmongering of his predecessors, did a lot to impress me about his policy orientation, all bad.
Trump got votes because most people were sick of living paycheck to paycheck, with half a million people sleeping on American streets at night and another half million going bankrupt each year because they had the misfortune of getting sick.
Five million taxpayers lost their homes (even as taxpayers bailed out Wall Street), and Democrats under Obama lost 1000+ legislative seats around the country. Not so golden.
Joe Biden and the corrupt establishment backing him are neither safe nor sane. Au contraire!
And if you think Biden is non-polarizing, you are only partially correct. Both parties' establishments like him -- the GOP he emulates and the DINOs who've hijacked the party of FDR.
But I think you'll find he's QUITE polarizing within the party. There are millions of us who will not vote for the LOTE, war mongering, racist misogynist who's spent his entire career trying to cut Social Security and Medicare.
Biden's supporters don't have passion. They have fear. It's Sanders supporters who will get out the vote. It's Sanders who can defeat Trump.
It's easy to tell which one you are. You always crawl out from under your bridge when poor HRC is not properly worshipped.
What a sad calling .. but at least you'll never run out of work.
I think it's fascinating that people (and I note this especially in neoliberals) tend to project their own bad behavior onto others. Remember how she/they said Bernie wasn't dropping out soon enough (even though he dropped out earlier than she did against Obama) or that Trump would never accept losing the election (even though it's the Democratic party thats been torn apart by their unwillingness to take an honest look at why Trump won)?
I see the same inclination in you. What you accuse others of is usually a fairly accurate indicator of what you're up to.
Please. Try some 'factual content'. It would be such a refreshing change.
Hahaha. I'll bet you did magic tricks (very badly) when you were a kid.
The wall was going to be paid for by Mexico.
All the good high paying jobs would be back and factories would be back in the US.
We'd have a 'much better much cheaper' health system.
Our troops would be home. The wars would be over.
The intelligence community would be neutralized.
Unemployment is low because people have two and three low paying jobs -- and still can't pay their bills. Wages are NOT going up. They have been stagnant for 45 years ... AND STILL ARE.
Rebuilt the military?! BOTH parties fellate the bloated military. They can't throw $$$$$ at them fast enough.
'Everything in the country is going great'?!?!?!?
60% of people can't afford a $400 emergency. 500,000 people sleep on the streets every night. 20% of American children live in poverty. 22 veterans a day commit suicide.
You are brainwashed.
Believe me, I have MANY problems with Democrat sheeple. But you have such blinkered vision it causes pain.
The wall will be paid for many times over when we don't have thousands of people pouring over the border that we need to deal with.
Companies are reinvesting in the US, and good paying jogs are everywhere, don't know where you have been. This is the best time in decades for a non educated or a college educated person to be entering the workforce.
Healthcare and entitlement reform will be second term after we win the house. House currently will not work with our president.
Trump is anti war and has tried to bring troops home. Unfortunately as long as there are radical Muslims in the world we aren't going to be able to do that.
The 2-3 jobs thing makes no sense, that was a ridiculous comment AOC made and was roasted for it. The only people not working right now are those who would rather live at the survival level and not work rather than do something with their lives. (like socialism). You must not be in the workforce, wages have gone up dramatically, especially on the low end.
People can't afford a $400 emergency because they are stupid with their money. Skip the Starbucks and pack a lunch for a few weeks and they will have that covered.
Yeah, but he cut those of Bill Gates by maybe 20 percent, and mine (middle class on Social Security) by zip. People making poverty wages got a slightly better deal: He cut their taxes by 0.1 percent.
As for the rest, you actually made me guffaw.
Re the wall: that is just sad.
Re companies reinvesting: I know because I'm living it, I know my coworkers' situations, and I am informed with, you know, actual statistics. I'm not referring to anything AOC said. I am talking about the life I live -- and I drive to work on bad roads too.
You need to get out more and talk to people. They are working hard but still hurting, but you, like many Limbaugh lovers, have constructed a world of lazy hippies and hostile feminists.
In the 50s, when banks were regulated, one income could support a family. They could even have a car and go on vacation once in a while. Since then wages have stagnated while prices have not.
While worker productivity is some of the highest in the world, compensation has not risen. Do you know the minimum wage hasn't gone up in 10 years (and even then it was inadequate).
Please, show me one believable statistic about rising wages.
They are the most profitable companies in the history of the world BUT TAXPAYERS STILL SUBSIDIZE THEM!
Some might even call it corporate socialism.
99.6% of all climate scientists agree that human activity is leading to catastrophic climate disruption but you're all la-la-la don't-bother-me-with-facts.
Remember the Cheney Doctrine? If there's a 1% chance of terrorist activity you're allowed to ignore the Constitution. But with more than 99% consensus among, you know, scientists ... you just want to ignore it?
If we're wrong, we (boo hoo) live in a world with cleaner air and water; if you're wrong, the planet burns, probably resulting in our own extinction. So YOUR decision is to be paranoid and ignorant? Mind boggling.
This is actually the exact opposite of reality. Trump has been targeting Biden (what was the whole Ukraine thing about) while saying Sanders is getting screwed. He clearly would prefer to run against Sanders than Biden as well as stir up hostility among Sanders supporters. He may be right or he may be wrong, but let's work from facts.
Nathan, it's absolutely true that Biden has weaknesses, but so does Sanders. That's what those of us who haven't drunk the Kool-Aid are trying to figure out. And as far as your ability to know what's going to happen, wasn't it your article that after Nevada said basically the fight for the nomination was over, Sanders was going to be the clear winner, and everyone should unite behind him ("After Bernie Sanders' Landslide Nevada Win, It's Time for Democrats to Unite Behind Him", 2/24/2020). A little humility seems in order.
I'm glad you're holding Robinson's feet to the fire. Too often, pundits pontificate and when they're wrong (especially in their predictions) they act as if they had never said it..
You're right to say the both Biden and Sanders are vulnerable to the shit storm Trump is sure to unleash. I would have loved to see a debate between Warren (who has her own liabilities) and Trump. She'd spit right back in his eye.
Humility, meet kettle.
Oh wait, MY taxes go to a bloated war machine bombing a dozen countries in my name and a corrupt political system that can't be bothered to put a functional voting machine in my district.
MY taxes subsidize history's most profitable corporations and bail out kleptocrats in suits.
You know public colleges WERE free 50 years ago (back in the good ol' days you purportedly yearn for), right? Our public schools were funded -- and considered the best in the world. We had the world's longest lifespans and best roads.
I'm sure you have a very interesting take on what happened to change all that ... and I suspect it's quite ill informed.
But hey! No problem, right? Everyone has the right to be loudly arrogant and deplorably ignorant. This is America.
Yeehaw, Cowboy!
Your taxes don't subsidize corporations, they get tax breaks on income for reinvesting in the business which is what gives us all the wonderful things we have in our lives that we didn't have 100 years ago, including life saving procedures and medicine. The only time we need to bail them out is when the government gets involved and does something stupid like dictating to the banks that everyone should get home financing, and then guaranty the bad loans.
Public schools were free 50 years ago. That was when professors taught more than 1 class per week, didn't have a staff of people working for them, and the university's weren't the bloated bureaucracies they are today. That was also before the government took over the student loan program making unlimited money available to anyone willing to sign for it which in turn drove up the tuition costs.
In Bernie's world we should pay for other people's child care, the guy who saved his money and worked through collage should help pay back the loans of the guy who partied and took 6 years to graduate and borrowed money for "living expenses". The guy who goes to work out of high school as a carpenter gets to subsidize the medical student who graduates as a surgeon making millions of dollars. Could go on.
When oil corporations get subsidies, where do you think that comes from? MY schools. MY roads.
Life saving procedures and medical research were subsidized by government funded academic research.
We bailed out Wall Street because deregulation in the Reagan and Clinton administrations have given us a roller coaster market with spikes and bubbles, not stability.
The collapse was from bundled derivatives passing losses down to small players while the fat cats looted the economy.
Academic bureaucracy was infinitely expanded with the corporatization of universities. Read the Powell Memorandum.
When the government ran the student loan program the interest rate was 3%; it was when it became privatized that tuition and interest rates skyrocketed.
In MY world, not just Bernie's, yes we should INVEST in an educated population because it's of benefit to all of us and our country. We should all put our share in for fire and police protection, and good roads, and kids who understand history and science. Why shouldn't Amazon pay any taxes? Even Warren Buffet agrees!
How is the guy who worked hard helping to pay back the deadbeat's loans? What are you talking about?
Most people work hard, but you construct fantastical hippie deadbeats and pretend every Democrat is like that. I suppose because somewhere deep down you know your ideas don't hold up.
I don't agree with subsidies either, hey we agree on something.
Government and corporate investment in research. Corporations R&D is what you guys call tax breaks because that investment is not taxed.
Market has had spikes and crashes since the market began, look at a chart of the S&P 500. We are in another bubble now. A crash is sure to follow.
Those bundled derivatives were full of shit loans that had no chance of being paid back because the government decided we should have more minority home ownership. You need to look at the cause, not the symptoms.
The government runs the student loan program now, was taken over during Obama's term. Has gone crazy since then. When it was private the people making the loans actually had to worry about them being paid back.
Amazon will pay an obnoxious amount of taxes as soon as it is no longer in expansion mode.
Under Bernie's free College or loan forgiveness plans, those who didn't go to College are subsidizing those who did. Hence the plumber is paying for the surgeons medical degree. The guy who was responsible and worked his ass off to get through College with little or no debt would be paying for the loans of the guy who borrowed 20K on top of his tuition so he could have a good time at College and graduate with a degree in gender studies.
Those bundled derivatives were full of shit loans that had no chance of being paid back because the government decided we should have more minority home ownership. You need to look at the cause, not the symptoms."
Again, you simply don't know what you're talking about, cherry picking your "alternative facts" from sources that don't deal in actual facts, or if necessary out of thin air.
It was not the requirement that banks lend to people in low-income neighborhoods who DID have sufficient income, but the aggressive marketing of mortgages by the big banks to people whom they KNEW could not pay. We even have their people on tape joking about "liar loans" and NINJA loans (No Income, Job, or Assets). They then buried those IOUs in packages with thousands of others, some of which were OK, and sold shares in the packages to their "investors,"* pocketing ALL of the proceeds and stiffing the buyers with the losses they KNEW would ensue. They even crafted similar packages to order for their FAVORED clients, who then cleaned up by betting heavily that they would fail.
*Misuse of the term "invest" is another story. Much of what is called "investing" today is speculation, aka gambling, according to the occasional honest economists who study them.
'Amazon will pay'
Wow. Speechless. You will believe anything.
Under Bernie's plan vocational school and apprenticeships are included. Do you remember all the lies about how, when we lost jobs to factories moving and technology, workers would get retrained to adjust to the new economy? That never happened.
Sanders will follow through on FDR's second phase, which included worker protections and health care -- which EVERY OTHER civilized country manages.
Do you realize the benefit to companies not having to insure their employees?
All VERY WELL SAID!! Could you be persuaded to run for President?
Apparently you favor the "business as usual prior to Trump" notion, that if we can just get Trump out of the oval office we can go back to the "good old days," say 1992-2016. Do you honestly believe that Biden would even attempt to rebuild the governmental infrastructure that Trump has savaged, in particular the EPA, the Departments of the Interior, State, Education, Justice, Commerce/Labor, and HHS (public health and the social safety net)? I don't.
Furthermore, we are staring the Climate Crisis in the face (unless "we" are pretending it doesn't exist) including a possible ecological collapse. We are 30 years behind on all that, with only ten years left to do a job that would have been challenging to do in 40. If another four years of Trump would be akin to being shot in the head, four years of Biden, who was a rudderless bumbler before he became demented, would be akin to being shot in the stomach, a long, painful death.
Dementia and Alzheimers happen to people as they get older. They are just normal parts of aging and don't need to be a cause for alarm since there is nothing that can be done about them. But they are signs that someone should not take on the most responsible job in the world. A president has to juggle a thousand issues swirling around him every day. Biden won't be able to do that.
Trump will make a mess of Biden. Why couldn't the power elites in the Democratic party pick a much better candidate? Was Gropin' Joe all they had?
A number of older presidents have had brain issues and folks covered for them. If Biden has a true brain issue, then yes, Trump will shred his credibility, but Biden has other concerns (and relatives) who will bring him down when Trump digs in and cuts him down.
Well, these "folks" are unelected and often unknown. Is that the kind of government we want. I don't think so. These behind the scenes "handlers" are precisely what we don't want.
I agree with you that Biden has other issues that are more crucial. He's just a bad candidate to send up against Trump. Why can't the power elites in the Demo party do better than Biden? Don't they have anyone else? Or is this just what they think of the presidency -- send in a near brain dead zombie like Reagan into the presidency and then let his "handlers" do all the work.
Were going to have the most enlightening presidential campaign in our country's history: The two candidates accusing each other of losing their minds. It's fodder for comedians such as Dore, who seems to be your prime source of information. How about going to Kimmel, Trevor Noah, Joh Oliver once in a while?
Btw, you're over 80. How's your Alzheimer's doing? Better than Trump's, I hope, who you think is able to handle thousands of issues. For real?Just look how he's doing with corona. His self-admitted "hunches" are treated on FoxNews as scientific wisdom chiseled into stone.
Trump is an idiot but not from any dementia or brain degeneration. He's always been that way. Gropin' Joe is just fading out.
Many polls have shown that there is majority support for the individual items on Sanders' agenda, even among Republicans, and in a poll a couple of months ago Sanders was ranked FIRST in every one of ten issues (environment, economy, foreign policy, etc) on being best able to lead US in the right direction.
The gaslighting you are getting about comparative electability is the result of years of media and political misinformation and fearmongering -- and it seems to have worked on you just as planned.
By 'realistic' I must suppose you mean Social Security cutting, warmongering, Wall Street loving 'centrist' -- but I must disagree that it will attract voters, any more than Hillary's feeble incrementalism did.
Didn't we just see this movie?
Do you remember Einstein's definition of insanity -- doing the same thing but expecting a different result?
Try thinking outside your manufactured consent. It's quite liberating.