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Schwarz writes: "Donald Trump's speech accepting the Republican nomination for president will probably go down as one of the most frightening pieces of political rhetoric in U.S. history."

Donald Trump. (photo: Carolyn Kaster/AP)
Donald Trump. (photo: Carolyn Kaster/AP)


Donald Trump's Convention Speech Rings Terrifying Historical Alarm Bells

By Jon Schwarz, The Intercept

22 July 16

 

onald Trump’s speech accepting the Republican nomination for president will probably go down as one of the most frightening pieces of political rhetoric in U.S. history.

Even for people who believe the danger of genuine authoritarianism on the U.S. right is often exaggerated, it’s impossible not to hear in Trump’s speech echoes of the words and strategies of the world’s worst leaders.

Trump had just one message for Americans: Be afraid. You are under terrible threats from forces inside and outside your country, and he’s the only person who can save us.

The scariest part is how Trump subtly but clearly has begun melding together violence against U.S. police and terrorism: “The attacks on our police, and the terrorism in our cities,” he said, “threaten our very way of life.”

This is the favorite and most dangerous message of demagogues across all space and time. After all, if we know our external enemies are deeply evil, and our internal enemies are somehow their allies, we can feel justified in doing anything at all to our internal enemies. That’s just logic.

And if anything, Trump’s speech is actually more terrific, fabulous and huge than those of previous fanatics, since he promises he’s going to fix everything overnight. “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon — and I mean very soon — come to an end,” Trump says. “Beginning on January 20th of 2017, safety will be restored.”

This use of fear to destroy democracy is so old that it’s described exactly in Plato’s Republic, written in Ancient Greece around 380 B.C.

Tyranny, says Socrates in The Republic, is actually “an outgrowth of democracy.” And would-be tyrants always in every instance claim to be shielding regular people from terrible danger: “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector.”

Trump said that he is going to “protect” Americans or some aspect of American life 13 times tonight.

That makes sense, since as he portrayed the world, we desperately need protecting:

Nearly 180,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records, ordered deported from our country, are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens. …

Egypt was turned over to the radical Muslim brotherhood. … Iran is on the path to nuclear weapons. …

This is the legacy of Hillary Clinton: death, destruction, terrorism and weakness. …

My plan will begin with safety at home – which means safe neighborhoods, secure borders, and protection from terrorism. …

I have joined the political arena so that the powerful can no longer beat up on people who cannot defend themselves. …

America was shocked to its core when our police officers in Dallas were brutally executed. … I have a message to every last person threatening the peace on our streets and the safety of our police: When I take the oath of office next year, I will restore law and order to our country. …

We must also address the growing threats we face from outside America. …

Men, women and children viciously mowed down. Lives ruined. Families ripped apart. … Only weeks ago, in Orlando, Florida, 49 wonderful Americans were savagely murdered by an Islamic terrorist. …

We Will Make America Safe Again.

As The Republic explains, leaders like this inevitably end up “standing up in the chariot of State with the reins in his hand, no longer protector, but tyrant absolute.” This is how liberty “passes into the harshest and bitterest form of slavery.”

The good news is that if you turn off cable news — apparently the only source of Donald Trump’s knowledge about the world — and go outside, you’ll find that the U.S. is probably safer today than it’s ever been.

Despite the misleading statistics Trump used again tonight, the rate of murder and crime overall remains far, far lower than in the past. You also don’t need to worry about ISIS: even after the massacre of 49 people in Orlando, it’s likely more Americans will be killed by bee stings in 2016 than by terrorism.

Nonetheless, anyone who knows anything about the past must be genuinely worried that a major party could nominate someone like Trump. As the German philosopher Hegel famously said 200 years ago, “What experience and history teach is this — that people and governments never have learned anything from history.”

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+35 # John Escher 2016-07-22 14:21
Schwartz on Trump
An equally frightening appraisal of Donald Trump comes from his co-author of THE ART OF THE DEAL, Tony Schwartz. Twice interviewed during the Republican Convention on MSNBC, Schwartz emphasizes the shortness of Trump's attention span. Evidence of this comes, I would submit, when Trump is not reading the words of somebody else on a teleprompter, whenever he is speaking off the cuff which happens most of the time. And Schwartz says he experienced Trump's limited attention span first hand in trying to work with him.

Trump's lawyers of course are coming at Schwartz for daring to say such a thing, also that Trump is compulsive and apt to fly off the handle (much more than his daughter Ivanka, I would again submit). The lawyers have asked that Schwartz return his royalties earned from the book.

Schwartz meanwhile insists that he wasn't co-author but rather the whole author. And relates calling his agent from a plane to try and give up on the project because Trump's limited attention span made completion of the book so impossible.

The solution came in a brainstorm Schwartz himself had. He decided not to question Trump any more but rather just witness him while he was on the telephone making deals.

Schwartz says the reason he is at this time coming forward is that no one else who really knows Trump well is willing to reveal such a negative truth.

His greatest fear, Schwartz said, is that Trump's compulsiveness will easily lead us into World War.
 
 
+12 # MainStreetMentor 2016-07-22 15:04
We now embark on a journey, (via easily impressed and quickly swayed conservative voters), towards the potential of the first kakistocratic, kleptocratic leadership of the United States of America in the person(s) of Donald J. Trump and those he will pick as his cabinet members (should he become POTUS). The journey, and its’ aftermath, will be a sobering education in the true definition of: chaos.
 
 
+11 # John Escher 2016-07-22 16:06
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trumps-remorseful-ghostwriter
 
 
+8 # economagic 2016-07-22 21:56
It has also been all over the internet.
 
 
-13 # RMDC 2016-07-23 08:23
"His greatest fear, Schwartz said, is that Trump's compulsiveness will easily lead us into World War."


This should not be his greatest fear. Who would Trump go to war against? Russia -- not likely. Putin would not go into a war. China -- not likely.

The US is already at war with most of the rest of the world, or controls their militaries.

And the Pentagon/CIA has a lot of control over who the US fights.

Schwartz's article is very good and his insights about Trump are important and probably very correct. But Trump's weaknesses don't seem to me to make him any worse than other presidents and candidates. Are Trump's weaknesses worse than McCain's? No. Worse than Obama's. Definntely not. At least Trump knows how to hard-bargain. Obama and Clinton both just cave in to the republicans without putting up any fight.
 
 
0 # RMF 2016-07-23 10:53
"And if anything, Trump’s speech is actually more terrific, fabulous and huge than those of previous fanatics, since he promises...."

No doubt Trump has strong potential to be the worst president ever. And perhaps Swartz was attempting sarcasm, but I would have chosen words differing from those quoted from his article.
 
 
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+36 # RMDC 2016-07-22 17:45
"Trump had just one message for Americans: Be afraid. You are under terrible threats from forces inside and outside your country."

This is not just Trump. It is all republicans since Reagan. I was present at Reagan's big terrorism speech in 1984. He said that terrorist from all over the world were focusing their sights on the US because they hate our freedom. This has been standard issue Republican rhetoric for a half century. It is just amazing that there is anyone left gullible enough to even listen to it.

Americans are far more likely to be shot, beaten, or terrorized by a US cop than by any foreign terrorist.

This author should not take Trump seriously. The best thing to do is laugh at him. The republicans will never stop saying this and they will never stop setting up false flag operations in order to make the mass media think the claims are true.
 
 
-20 # guomashi 2016-07-22 18:21
Quoting RMDC:
"Trump had just one message for Americans: Be afraid. You are under terrible threats from forces inside and outside your country."


This is just a lie.
In a 74 minute speech Trump delivered a variety of messages
- discard free trade agreements
- cease foreign wars and regime change
- accessible quality schooling for minorities
- child care for families (delivered by his daughter in her introduction)
etc. etc. etc.

The dog whistles were certainly there for the hyper-conservat ives, but there was a lot more than just one message.
 
 
+9 # ericlipps 2016-07-23 07:15
Quoting guomashi:
Quoting RMDC:
"Trump had just one message for Americans: Be afraid. You are under terrible threats from forces inside and outside your country."


This is just a lie.
In a 74 minute speech Trump delivered a variety of messages
- discard free trade agreements
- cease foreign wars and regime change
- accessible quality schooling for minorities
- child care for families (delivered by his daughter in her introduction)
etc. etc. etc.

The dog whistles were certainly there for the hyper-conservatives, but there was a lot more than just one message.

"Etc., etc., etc."?

In other words, Donald Trump really is the hero of the people? And the "dog whistles" don't matter?

Not to make too close a parallel, easy though it is, but Hitler offered benefits to ("real") Germans too: the autobahn, inexpensive cars (the Volkswagen, or "people's car"), support for impoverished veterans (Winterhilfe), action against undesirable minorities (need I go into details?), massive new job-creating programs (many of them aimed at building up the German military (expressly forbidden by the Treaty of Versailles) to attack its neighbors and "reclaim German territory" . . . etc., etc., etc.
 
 
+5 # RMF 2016-07-23 11:08
One problem, of many too numerous to cite, is that Trump provides almost zero policy detail, but even more importantly you can't believe a word he says (and you certainly cannot impute his children's comments to him -- this is just more Trump slight-of-hand, an age-old con job.)

And puleeze can we try to connect a few dots here -- if you believe that Trump/GOP is going to bring child care and improved public education to America you will be sadly mistaken -- it's the same old time-worn GOP BS about a strong economic tide raising all boats -- straight out of the Reagan/Laffer playbook -- it didn't work in the 1980s and it won't work now -- moreover, with the biggest tax cats ever proposed there won't be any money for child care or education.

When W applied the Reagan/Laffer model W had a federal budget surplus to cushion the deficits and provide the GOP free range in handing out tax code goodies to the plutocracy, but that's not the case now, even though the fiscal situation has improved substantially during Obama's presidency (some around here still refuse to acknowledge that Obama saved the US economy.)
 
 
+5 # Radscal 2016-07-23 01:24
"Liberals" have been laughing at Drumpf since he took his escalator ride into history.

Not working so well, is it?

This author, and those in the "liberal media" just don't get it. They may or may not know that Drumpf just got more votes than ANY OTHER Republican primary candidate in history, but they insist on minimizing and misunderstandin g what that means.

They are all in their own bubbles. Drumpf didn't give a speech for Democratic partisans. He gave a speech (like all nominees do) to the "undecided" and "independent" voters.

Lionel does an excellent job of explaining what that speech means. (spoiler alert: it will INCREASE his likelihood of beating Clinton).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhKmxBXYWJw

We MUST defeat Drumpf. And that means we MUST convince the DP to nominate the ONLY candidate who beats Drumpf with no problem.
 
 
+2 # ericlipps 2016-07-23 07:23
Groan. And that candidate, of course, would be St. Bernard of Brooklyn.

(1) The Democratic Party won't dump Hillary for Bernie no matter how many chairs the latter's delegates throw at the convention.

(2) Bernie's good showing in some preconvention polls has a lot to do with the fact that the GOP hate machine has concentrated its fire on Clinton (with the eager assistance of Bernieites) while ignoring him, just as happened with Clinton and Obama in '08. And just as in 2008, if he were the nominee the muzzles would swing toward him. Trump would use Bernie's own words ("I'm a socialist!") to frighten voters into abandoning him.

(3) so if you want to keep Trump out of the Oval Office, suck it up, go out and work for Hillary's election and then hold her feet to the fire (not literally, no matter how you might like to) to get her to deliver on the progressive ideas Sanders' supporters say their hero has "forced" her to adopt.
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2016-07-23 16:02
1. Likely true. In which case, get ready for President Drumpf

2. Bernie's policy stands are majority views amongst USians. But there will be MUCH more dirt on HRC coming out.

3. I have loved ones whose families live in Iran,which HRC has threatened to "obliterate" numerous times. She even got threats to Iran put into the Democratic Party Platform.

Hence, I will do everything legal and ethical within my power to prevent her from murdering those lovely people.
 
 
+38 # kyzipster 2016-07-22 17:46
Fox News and the rest of the rightwing media machine have been spewing this garbage for decades. There would be no Trump without this propaganda machine. Everyone's acting like Trump came out of nowhere, he was probably inevitable. This fear, anger and bigotry has been around for a long time.

I blame the whole country, especially the mainstream media. I remember the Obama Administration attempting to call it out early on and the so called 'liberal media' stepped in and condemned them, complaining about First Amendment rights. The Obama Admin wasn't trying to silence Fox News, they were trying to call a lie a lie, to get a conversation going, which is the job of responsible journalists. The only people doing it these days, the only people who get any air time, are comedians like Jon Stewart and Colbert.

Today so many journalists cower in fear of being labeled 'liberal bias'. Well the truth is 'liberal bias' in this country while the lies of the GOP cult are treated as a legitimate point of view. That is what has legitimized Trump as a candidate. Decades of lies all across the media. This alternate reality is very real to the GOP base, Trump didn't create it.

What a mess of a country.
 
 
+20 # Radscal 2016-07-23 01:37
The corporate media are exactly as "liberal" as the trans-national corporations that own them want them to be.

Corporate media talking heads are afraid of only one thing: Saying something their corporate owners don't want said.

"News is what powerful people don't want you to see; everything else is just publicity,"

~ Bill Moyers December, 2004 last episode of NOW
 
 
-6 # RMDC 2016-07-22 17:52
"Tyranny, says Socrates in The Republic, is actually “an outgrowth of democracy.” And would-be tyrants always in every instance claim to be shielding regular people from terrible danger: “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector.”


Anyone who cites Plato on politics only reveals he went to a bad college. I know there are some colleges that still teach this crap and still expect students to believe it. But anyone who reads a little more about political philosophy just dumps his Plato in the trash.

Tyranny is not an outgrowth of democracy.
Tyreanny is the opposite of democracy.
Tryanny is an outgrowth of tryanny.
Plato hated democracy. Plato hated the "demos" [Greek for people]
Tyrants can say whatever they want. No one is fooled. They want tyranny and the total control of people by a ruling elite -- just what Plato wanted.


Trump tried very hard to show himself as a typical Republican. That was just nauseating. He had something as an outsider; now he is part of the shithole that is the republican party.
 
 
-7 # guomashi 2016-07-22 18:26
Quoting RMDC:
"Tyranny, says Socrates in The Republic, is actually “an outgrowth of democracy.” And would-be tyrants always in every instance claim to be shielding regular people from terrible danger: “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector.”


Tyranny had a different meaning in the ancient world: it meant someone who unlawfully seized power (whether they were good or bad).
Elected leaders were always tyrants in the minds of the aristocracies (which socrates favored.) because they had seized their power from its rightful source: those who were born to it.

Stupid article, only possible because of the poor educational system in US.
 
 
+19 # PeacefulGarden 2016-07-22 18:02
Okay. I have had it. I am living in Pennsylvania, and I am very concerned. I will vote for this year against the Republican ticket.

We have no choice. I must vote against the Puritan Party. I will not let the nation move back to 1690.
 
 
-3 # guomashi 2016-07-22 18:55
Quoting PeacefulGarden:
Okay. I have had it. I am living in Pennsylvania, and I am very concerned. I will vote for this year against the Republican ticket.

We have no choice. I must vote against the Puritan Party. I will not let the nation move back to 1690.


An interesting choice of dates.
America grew out of 1690.
Moving forward into WW III, on the other hand....
 
 
+3 # economagic 2016-07-22 21:59
I think that is exactly what "they" want you to think. "Be very afraid."
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-07-23 01:40
Mission Accomplished.

We're being played, or at least, we're listening to "The Mighty Wurlitzer."

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1743770.The_Mighty_Wurlitzer
 
 
+24 # Buddha 2016-07-22 18:50
I told the wife after seeing our fill last night that we might need to move up the pace on the refit of our cruising sailboat, I am NOT going to just hang around in a Trump America for his Stormtroopers to bash in my door once they move on from Hispanics and Muslims to the "Socialists".
 
 
+12 # guomashi 2016-07-22 18:56
Quoting Buddha:
I told the wife after seeing our fill last night that we might need to move up the pace on the refit of our cruising sailboat, I am NOT going to just hang around in a Trump America for his Stormtroopers to bash in my door once they move on from Hispanics and Muslims to the "Socialists".


Several countries are offering free land to Americans who want to move out if Trump is elected.
 
 
+12 # economagic 2016-07-22 22:00
Could you please elaborate, or are we stuck with Google?
 
 
+8 # guomashi 2016-07-22 22:26
Quoting economagic:
Could you please elaborate, or are we stuck with Google?


There is an island 9 miles off of ireland which is open to settlement.
There were a bunch of houses given away in Sicily on condition that they be renovated within 4 years. i will look for other examples.
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2016-07-23 16:04
I read that Canada is offering great deals in Nova Scotia for USian expats.

BTW: Please stop using "don't be evil."

duckduckgo.com is a great search engine that does not keep records of your searches or sell your information.
 
 
+2 # economagic 2016-07-23 19:41
Didn't know about that one, but I've been using goodsearch.com, which rents time on the Yahoo search engine and contributes a penny per search to your favorite non-profit. Got that one from Economists for Peace and Security, with some remarkable mainstream people on the board, some of whom probably do see the contradiction.
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2016-07-23 21:04
Once again, you've taught me something, and entertained me with a piece of remarkably polite-sounding snark in the conclusion.
 
 
-30 # Depressionborn 2016-07-22 19:29
Read the speech for yourself. It is what we need. Our present governing elite are destroying us. Help is finally on the way.

Less gov; more good jobs; less war; controlled borders... All good rsn goals. Even repeal of Glass-Segal.

what's the problem with that?
 
 
+30 # PeacefulGarden 2016-07-22 20:05
Honestly, being honest to yourself, your family, and friends. Do you think the Republican ticket is what the USA needs right now?

I am at a loss. I have to vote against the Republican ticket. If the opposite of the Republican ticket was the rabbit in my cucumber patch, I would vote for the rabbit.

The Republicans are completely insane.
 
 
-33 # Depressionborn 2016-07-22 20:37
Less gov; more good jobs; less war; controlled borders... hardly bad things.

What's our problem peaceful? You afraid to be truthful? Our present governing elite are destroying us. You really want more of it. THAT is insane.
 
 
+8 # revhen 2016-07-23 08:05
I, too, was born during the depression. Trump is outside the parties, both Democratic and Republican. He is running for dictator: "I will do this, I will do that -- immediately." In one week some years ago both an attorney and a priest said to me, "We are in such a mess. Don't you think we need a benevolent dictator?" To which I replied, "Dictators don't stay benevolent very long." I will agree that when parties and elites become more important than the people then we are in deep trouble. But dictatorship is not the solution.
 
 
-1 # Depressionborn 2016-07-23 09:20
the parties have become the dictatorQuoting revhen:
I, too, was born during the depression. Trump is outside the parties, both Democratic and Republican. He is running for dictator: "I will do this, I will do that -- immediately." In one week some years ago both an attorney and a priest said to me, "We are in such a mess. Don't you think we need a benevolent dictator?" To which I replied, "Dictators don't stay benevolent very long." I will agree that
when parties and elites become more important than the people then we are in deep trouble. But dictatorship is not the solution.


Yes, but, the parties have become the dictator you fear. They are one now.
 
 
+2 # economagic 2016-07-23 19:43
The parties, bad as they are, are NOT "the dictator." The "dictator" is named "Global Megacorp," and it owns both parties, lock, stock, and barrel.
 
 
+1 # lfeuille 2016-07-23 17:07
No, but neither is the Democratic ticket. Nothing has changed since last week.
 
 
+3 # nogardflow 2016-07-23 12:52
Ah come on, Depressionborn, repeating Politician Speak, I'm sure you know as well as I that saying what you are going to do without saying how you're going to do it, is nothing but hollow platitudes.
Meanwhile, sometimes you can read between the lines, so you tell me Depressionborn, how do you, (“The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon — and I mean very soon — come to an end,” Trump says. “Beginning on January 20th of 2017, safety will be restored.”) stop all crime and violence in a free society, read some history and you will see that question has been answered many times.
 
 
+7 # guomashi 2016-07-22 20:55
"Trump had just one message for Americans: Be afraid. You are under terrible threats from forces inside and outside your country, and he’s the only person who can save us."

So how is that different from the

"Fighting for us" signs on all of Hillary's rallies?

http://kstati.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/hillary-fighting-for-us-1.jpg

I have stated repeatedly that this election offers us a choice between cow manure and horse manure. Both candidates have overwhelming problems to an extent greater than any time in US history.

However, I have to say, there is something grotesquely creepy in the way news sites are lying and slanting their news and analysis.

Can't they make their points on the facts? If not, what's in it for them?
The propaganda machine surely has enough to critique in both candidates, but it never does.
Lies, innuendos and more lies are all we get.
 
 
-14 # Depressionborn 2016-07-23 02:46
trump has a plan for change. read it. it is imperfect but a good start. JFK and his brother had a plan too. So watch trump being destroyed, first by lies, then other means.

billary follows the orders of NWO.

good luck.
 
 
+4 # ericlipps 2016-07-23 07:34
Quoting Depressionborn:
trump has a plan for change. read it. it is imperfect but a good start. JFK and his brother had a plan too. So watch trump being destroyed, first by lies, then other means.

billary follows the orders of NWO.

good luck.

And Trump EMBODIES the New World Order,or, in his case, der Neue Weltordnung.
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-07-23 21:07
The New World Order is embodied in GATT, WTO, NAFTA, TPP, TTIP and TiSA.
 
 
+2 # economagic 2016-07-22 22:02
All of the above. Well, OK, MOST of the above. But it all strengthens my suspicion that it is ALL part of a grand plan to assure the coronation of Hillary Clinton. One problem (of many) if that is the case is the ease with which such plans are co-opted or spin out of anyone's control. I'm pretty sure Radscal will cite chapter and verse when he checks in. ;-)

Regardless of who actually assumes the office of president in January (or whenever, and note that I did NOT say "elected"), we are going to be in deep and deeper doo-doo for the next four years at a minimum, more likely more like four centuries. Fasten your seat belt; I'm pretty sure we're in for a rough ride.
 
 
+3 # ericlipps 2016-07-23 07:37
Quoting economagic:
All of the above. Well, OK, MOST of the above. But it all strengthens my suspicion that it is ALL part of a grand plan to assure the coronation of Hillary Clinton. One problem (of many) if that is the case is the ease with which such plans are co-opted or spin out of anyone's control. I'm pretty sure Radscal will cite chapter and verse when he checks in. ;-)

Regardless of who actually assumes the office of president in January (or whenever, and note that I did NOT say "elected"), we are going to be in deep and deeper doo-doo for the next four years at a minimum, more likely more like four centuries. Fasten your seat belt; I'm pretty sure we're in for a rough ride.

Oh, please. Donald Trump's nomination is part of a plot to get Hillary Clinton elected?

If the so-called "Clinton machine" had that much power, Hillary could simply announce she was president and dispense with the election altogether.
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-07-23 18:40
"Hillary could simply announce she was president"

She pretty much did. One of the first articles about her candidacy here on RSN was that her people announced they already had something like 25% of the delegate votes necessary to claim the nomination.

And that was 1/2 year before the first actual human being had cast a vote!

The corporate media treated her as the presumptive nominee from day one, and did everything in their power to fulfill that prophecy.
 
 
+10 # Jaax88 2016-07-23 00:11
All Americans other than people who want authoritarians or dictators to govern America should look at all the implications of Trump's acceptance speech right down to the nitty gritty. He seems to have caught himself in a box of delusions. If we are to believe his pompous declaration that he will stop the crime and terror "rampant in America" as soon as he takes office we must ask how is he going to do that. In my judgment he is lying if he believes that. Or, if he really means it I think we can look forward to several nasty possibilities.
Since the President does not control local and state law enforcement there is the initial question of how can he accomplish what he claims he can do? There are several ways. One as President he could try to declare martial law and we would see troops all over the streets and byways militarizing normal life, running people into custody without probable cause or perhaps threaten individual states with withholding federal funds to force local law enforcement to do his bidding. That is just one of the braggart's
boasts. Each one needs circumspection to see what dark, unconstitutiona l and unAmerican actions could result from an
authoritarian like Trump who is fixated on getting the results he wants. Believe me!
 
 
+4 # librarian1984 2016-07-23 00:16
Where's the companion article, about how HRC's lack of transparency and election high-jinks endear her to the loyal base?
 
 
+3 # RICHARDKANEpa 2016-07-23 00:34
A picture is worth a thousands words,
Kim Jong-un, Donald Trump, Mao Tse-tung and Joseph Stalin lightly clap when being praised, with a slight smirk on their face. Kim, and Trump,
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSqrjWgYMxsJOUC20Lhhe3yMQWRKboeev-uHvYIVcY-qyzsIg-RpQ

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l46CAPzswmb3qjGgg/200.gif

Please watch Trump's speech at the Republican convention.

I hope the detailed effort to show similarities, between Obama's and Trump's wife speaking would be repeated with the various “Dear Leaders”
 
 
-1 # RMF 2016-07-23 15:46
Good point RichardKane...I also thought Trump was channelling Mussolini....
 
 
+12 # treespeaker 2016-07-23 01:08
The purpose of Trump is to bring the evil darkness of the republican party above the ground so it can be exposed to the Light, so this evil group of dirty old white men can be destroyed forever. Their convention reminded me of the lemmings jumping off the cliff and into the ocean to die and disappear into the sea forever. All they offered was fear and hate - what a sick group all of them.
 
 
-16 # Depressionborn 2016-07-23 02:50
treespeaker 2016-07-23 01:08
for Gods sake get a life. Your hate must be a huge stone around your neck. Whatever has caused it? I am sorry for you.
 
 
+4 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-07-23 08:14
The lemmings drowning in the Disney film were being chased by unseen aides behind them. Keep that analogy here & see where we arrive....
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2016-07-23 16:10
Wow! I'm so impressed that someone KNOWS that!
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-07-23 16:10
Were you considering voting for one of the "moderate" Republicans? [or at least foresworn NOT to vote for HRC?]

If not, you were not Drumpf's target audience and your views of him are irrelevant.
 
 
-17 # Depressionborn 2016-07-23 03:00
Frank Luntz said there was one moment from Donald Trump's convention speech that truly stood out, that his focus group rated higher than anything that preceded it in the past four days.

That was when Trump talked about Hillary Clinton and corruption, specifically in regard to her emails.

"Republicans, Independents and Democrats dialed it through the roof," Luntz said.

Said one panelist who entered the RNC "Never Trump":

"I'm 39 years old. That was the best speech by a presidential candidate I've heard in my entire life. And I don't say that lightly, 'cause I've heard them all."

Another panelist who came in supporting Bernie Sanders is now going Trump....

Someone please tell Ash rsn is out of touch with reality
 
 
+5 # RICHARDKANEpa 2016-07-23 04:15
Quoting Depressionborn:

Someone please tell Ash rsn is out of touch with reality


The country joined the suicide bombers when not complaining about a police killer being blown up by robot instead of knocked unconscious, and the county will, as things stand press the suicide button for Trump on election day.
 
 
-3 # Depressionborn 2016-07-23 07:29
sure, yes we have been bombing for quite while. So what has Trump got to do with the sins of bilary and nobomba the bathhouse bomber and the Bush NWO patriarchy???
 
 
+6 # Mountain Man 2016-07-23 05:53
What in Trump's speech indicates that he would destroy the hold of the governing elite? Why would anyone automatically believe any politician's campaign promises? Anybody remember 1964? "I will not send our boys to die in Viet Nam." So much for promises.
 
 
+3 # guomashi 2016-07-23 06:39
Quoting Mountain Man:
What in Trump's speech indicates that he would destroy the hold of the governing elite? Why would anyone automatically believe any politician's campaign promises? Anybody remember 1964? "I will not send our boys to die in Viet Nam." So much for promises.


Unfortunately, if that is true it applies to all candidates and there is nothing left to do but flip a coin.

That may be the reality of the situation, but it would apply to Hillary as well AND there would be zero justification for any mud slinging, fear mongering or discussion at all.
 
 
-6 # Depressionborn 2016-07-23 09:15
Hi Mountain Man
I made a bet a rsn poster would say Trump sounds good but can't be believed, and therefore what rump says is no good. You just made me a six pack, thanks.
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-07-23 16:13
Yes. The only metric voters have by which to draw informed conclusions is the records of candidates.

Which is why I will never vote for HRC.

Nominate Sanders or get ready for that Drumpfian counter-revolut ion.
 
 
+2 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-07-23 08:15
I trust everyone got the Big Brother reference from the photo supplied here. The convention also had nasty echoes from Nuremberg 1934.
 
 
+2 # RMDC 2016-07-23 08:33
I did not get it but I see it now. Thanks. But I do think we are in a different situation. We have the choice between two very striking evils: Trump and Hillary. Both have very high negative ratings. Both are untrusted by a majority of people. Hillary's unstrustworthin ess rating is about 67%. Trump is in the 50s. Never before has the choice for the lesser of two evils been so dire.

In 2008, I was naive enough to think Obama was clearly better than McCain, so I did not vote Green. In 2016, no one with any political consciousness could say that one of these candidates is better than the other. They may be better on single issues. Trump is better on foreign wars (if we believe him); Hillary is better on Supreme court nominations (if we believe her).

But in the end they are both just evil. That is where the two hegemonic parties have brought us. There is no indication that they will ever do any different.
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-07-23 16:15
"I trust everyone got the Big Brother reference from the photo supplied here."

If not consciously, then certainly subconsciously. That's how propaganda works.
 
 
-2 # Robbee 2016-07-23 14:08
asks - # librarian1984 2016-07-23 00:16
Where's the companion article, about how HRC's lack of transparency and election high-jinks endear her to the loyal base?

- good question! - how is it that a story about rump's convention theme? - that inaugurating him instantly, automatically cures fear? terror? homeland insecurity? - is allowed to divert us from hill's inadequacies? - is rump any different from hill? - should we not give hill-hate equal time? for objectivity?

i've read enough about what rump's art-of-deal co-author confesses to know about how rump's romance with his own lies creates a special bond - beyond the norm of even a politician? - where lying appears to be stock-in-trade for repugs, more than a few dems

for repeating what rump said and saying that rump had said it - for example - rump called bernie a liar! - likewise crud and rabidio got called "liar" under similar circumstances - something about rump desperately craves to believe whatever personal history he says when he says it - rump so needs it to be true - what he talks about now is closing the biggest deal of all - becoming prez - rump literally says - whatever helps him close the deal! with the voting public! - rump is pathologic? sociopathic?

i took in rump's speech -
 
 
-2 # Robbee 2016-07-23 14:09
theme, part 2

- i felt like rump was laying out what one needs to say in order to sell america on rump - like rump auditions to be america's ruler-apprentic e? - i felt like i was watching machiavelli's amoral "the prince" - acted out live! during RNC!

rump handed-out olive branches to women, lgbtq, chicago, detroit and ferguson, to "bernie supporters", students in debt, women who lack equal pay, evangelicals, christians, cops and active duty troops

rump promised scalia judges - greatest, by volume, tax cuts - no regs - to void all of obama's executive orders - no gun control - trade deals on a country-by-coun try basis only - trade war with crooked china - nato protection on a pay-as-you-go basis - law and order, by cop and active duty armed forces - wall - full guantanamo - to rebuild our military, roads and bridges - to stop immigrating muslims - to win the war on drugs - the war on isis - the war on crime that he says we're losing

because every candidate always promises vets best care - there is nothing significant about this rump promise - unless you forget to make it, it doesn't count

all he says rummp believes he must say to become prez - rump believes he is closing his deal with america - moreover any opponent who repeats what he says is a liar - welcome to 1984! welcome to rump's world!

whatever rump will do as fuhrer? - anyone who does not vote for his only real opponent! shares responsibility!

- go bernie! and go dem!
 
 
+2 # Mountain Man 2016-07-23 16:11
I never said Trump sounded good. I asked if there is ANY indication that Trump will ever do anything to oppose the ruling elite, which IS destroying us. Considering his billions, he may very well be a part of that elite.

Trump is truly scary because his speeche of racism & xenophobia are reminders of campaign speeches in the late 1920s & early 30s in the German election cycles.

The content and tenor of so much of whet Trump says raise the Spectre of the Third Reich. And no, Trump is not another Hitler. More like a low-level hack politician running under that party's banner.
 
 
0 # treespeaker 2016-07-23 18:08
Depressionborn your comments are very similar to Trumps. You definitely have a "six pack of beer mentality" that is easily dupped by Herr Trump and his lies.
When you do a fact check on his acceptance speech you will find out that he lied and stretched the truth most of the time. What Trump is selling is fear and hate and by your comments you believe what he says. There is no stone around my neck so do not feel "sorry" for me.

PS: Have you seen a picture of Trump without his hair piece. It reminds me of you, pretty scary.
 
 
+2 # economagic 2016-07-23 19:52
Despite his years, DP has a pretty simplistic outlook on geopolitics. (He will probably nail me for that one, but he and I have already acknowledged our differences.)
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2016-07-23 21:23
I trust you mean "DB," not "DP."

When he graces our pages, we should pay attention. I do not agree with much he writes, but he is expressing views that are held by a sizable portion of the USian public.
 

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