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Excerpt: "'There is no doubt that when you wrestle with the vicious legacy of white supremacy that you're going to sooner or later engage in a critique of capitalism and imperialism.'"

Cornel West and Chris Hedges. (photo: TeleSur)
Cornel West and Chris Hedges. (photo: TeleSur)


Chris Hedges Interviews Cornel West: 'White Supremacy's Roots Are in Capitalism'

By Chris Hedges and Cornel West, teleSUR

06 August 15

 

Speaking to Chris Hedges on the premier episode of teleSUR's �Days of Revolt," Cornel West described the essence of the Black Prophetic Tradition.

he Black Prophetic Tradition is a movement that does not only include political calculation but expands to a deep moral and spiritual form that keeps in mind compassion and deeper connections with humans, Dr. Cornel West told Chris Hedges on the premier episode of teleSUR's original show �Days of Revolt.�

Dr. West gave a glimpse of what the Black Prophetic Tradition movement is, which he profiles in detail in his recent book �Black Prophetic Fire�.

�When you look at the genocidal attacks on the one hand and the enslavement of Africans on the other hand, you have the two pillars from which constitute the lens from which you would look at the history of this nation, and that's is the best of the prophetic black tradition,� he told Hedges.

He added that some black public figures wrongly refer to the enslavement of Africans by the founders of the United States as �America's biggest sin.� He said that the violation of the humanity of th4e indigenous people was in reality the United States' biggest sin.

�The white supremacist beginnings of this nation really had to do with the indigenous people, the violation of their humanity, the dispossession of their lands and so on. But it is true that enslaved Africans would become the generators of wealth based on exploited labor that would become the precondition for American democracy.�

Commenting on the origins of the white supremacy, he said that one would have to see its roots in capitalism and imperialism, which the Black Prophetic Tradition clearly comes against.

�There is no doubt that when you wrestle with the vicious legacy of white supremacy that you're going to sooner or later engage in a critique of capitalism and imperialism.�

Calling his book a love letter to the youngsters in the U.S., Dr. West went on to describe his opposition to Wall Street and its supporters, calling on the younger generation to turn away from the propaganda of the mainstream media.

�The neo-liberals who dominate corporate media, they want to financialize, privatize and militarize. Lo and behold, the black prophetic tradition says, �No, we�re critical of pro-Wall Street policy to generate more capitalist wealth and inequality,� when it comes to privatize. �No, we want public life. We want a sense of what we hold in common��

He concluded that loving those who were and still being oppressed around the world, including the poor, Black people, the Palestinians under the Israeli occupation, Jews persecuted for their faith, and the LGBT community, was not just political resistance, but was also spiritual and sustainable resistance.

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+20 # Walter J Smith 2014-11-11 09:48
Neither the elected Democrats nor the elected Republicans have any problem with the practice.
 
 
+17 # DD1946 2014-11-11 10:30
That seems to be true... but I recall all of them talking about honoring that Constitution.
 
 
+7 # Johnny 2014-11-11 14:12
Quoting DD1946:
That seems to be true... but I recall all of them talking about honoring that Constitution.


They had their fingers crossed when they took the oath.
 
 
+15 # Yakpsyche 2014-11-11 10:23
I thought there was something in the Constitution against that. No?
 
 
+13 # ligonlaw 2014-11-11 10:48
Quoting Yakpsyche:
I thought there was something in the Constitution against that. No?

It depends upon who is reading the Constitution. It is unconstitutiona l to deprive anyone of life, liberty or property without due process of law. What process is due? That's for the justices to decide. The Supreme Court, in furtherance of police powers, has signed off on forfeitures. There are several forms of forfeiture including IRS seizures, civil and criminal seizures- tools for law enforcement for decades. If the property is alleged to be part of a criminal enterprise, everything can be taken - bank accounts, cars, boats, houses, cash, businesses, everything. The IRS can take your property without showing much proof. There is no requirement that the allegation be accurate or that the property seized be proportional to the offense. This began as a tool to fight organized crime, but over the years, it has become a cottage industry for local law enforcement. The right wing Supreme Court has expanded the powers of the police in this area. Another area of taking is the condemnation of land by municipalities allowing local government to take your home so that a mall can be built where you lived. No one cares much about the civil liberties of criminals, that is until law enforcement gets you in their sights. In Oakland, your lose your car for cruising prostitutes. Forfeitures have grown from a tool to stop drug cartels to a justification for taking stuff the police want.
 
 
+19 # ericlipps 2014-11-11 10:47
The Fourth Amendment protects Americans against "unreasonable searches and seizures" of their "persons, houses, papers, and effects"--but who gets to define "unreasonable"?

The Fifth Amendment, among other things, states, "Nor] shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." But if cops simply seize and hold it, that's not "use"--and if they take it for themselves, it's not "public use."

Police therefore have ways of justifying what is, in effect, theft by law enforcement.
 
 
+18 # Johnny 2014-11-11 14:10
In other words, the Fourth and Fifth Amendments now protect Americans against nothing.
 
 
+1 # David Heizer 2014-11-11 23:01
Quoting ericlipps:
[W]ho gets to define "unreasonable"?


"Reasonable" does not mean what it means in common usage; it means the cop has to to supply a valid reason. Suspicion that you are going to use it to commit a crime has been held to be a valid reason.
 
 
+5 # lewagner 2014-11-11 23:13
It means the cop can do what he wants -- whether reasonable, legal, moral, or not -- and the courts will back him up. This even includes killing people in cold blood.
 
 
+16 # riverhouse 2014-11-11 11:37
Why do American citizens tolerate this?
 
 
+4 # Saberoff 2014-11-11 12:08
Like everything else, riverhouse. What's to be done? They're pig cops, with full battlements (and they smell bad). Come on man! Want your brains spilled on the sidewalk? Just take it; quiet as a mouse.
 
 
+6 # Diane_Wilkinson_Trefethen_aka_tref 2014-11-11 14:51
First, most Americans do not KNOW that the police are allowed, as a matter of law, to seize their property AND NOT RETURN IT in the absence of motions filed for the return of said property, even if
1) no charges are filed,
2) charges are filed but dismissed,
3) the charges are adjudicated in their favor,
4) the property seized is greater in value than the fines resulting from any conviction.

Second, since they don't know these seizures are legal, they don't know there is a problem until THEIR property gets confiscated.

Third, in not knowing there is a problem, people don't realize that the best remedy is to seek to have their State laws governing seizure of property amended. In States that do not have a ballot measure process, this means the only course of action is to persuade the State legislature to act, not an easy thing. For States like California, should the legislature prove unresponsive, people could organize to write amendments to State law and submit them to the voters. Frankly, if I were a California legislator, I would much prefer my house amend the law rather than trust amending to a group whose focus was on retrieving personal property and who probably didn't give a rat's ass about the valid reasons to allow seizure AND RETENTION of personal property.
 
 
+2 # Nominae 2014-11-11 20:55
Quoting riverhouse:
Why do American citizens tolerate this?


In many cases, i.e. "U.S. v.s. $4,000", or "U.S. v.s. White Cadillac", the costs to the citizen in both time and money will far exceed the value of either the cash or the property described above.

Local Statutes will also see to that.
The New Mexican Clown is not kidding.
It *IS* a "gold mine".

The ACLU is the only organization fighting this insanity.
 
 
0 # lewagner 2014-11-11 23:14
Why tolerate it, when you can vote against it? (sarcasm)
 
 
+4 # babaregi 2014-11-11 11:51
Cops are the same everywhere, ese!
 
 
+5 # suejeffers 2014-11-11 13:18
This has been happening for decades
 
 
0 # futhark 2014-11-11 13:21
As with militarized police, once again the self identified "left" is a step behind libertarians:

https://downsizedc.org/blog/lets-attack-asset-forfeiture-in-the-supreme-court

https://downsizedc.org/blog/asset-forfeiture-laws-endanger-your-right-to-an-attorney
 
 
+12 # Buddha 2014-11-11 14:52
But let's all keep playing make-believe that we are the "Land of the Free". Everyone used to mock Tijuana cops for their pulling over drivers and extorting money from them? Ours are worse now.
 
 
+4 # Nominae 2014-11-11 21:00
Quoting Buddha:
But let's all keep playing make-believe that we are the "Land of the Free". Everyone used to mock Tijuana cops for their pulling over drivers and extorting money from them? Ours are worse now.


Indeed.

"None are more helplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
~ Goethe
 
 
+3 # Diane_Wilkinson_Trefethen_aka_tref 2014-11-11 15:18
 
 
+5 # brenda 2014-11-11 17:59
When the police can get away with doing something that is unethical and illegal, they make themselves no different than the German NAZI SS.
 
 
0 # mim 2014-11-12 09:38
Sarah Stillman had an excellent story on this last yesr in the New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken
 
 
0 # John Puma 2014-11-12 21:30
Any whisper of an objection from those continuously howling about the sanctity of property rights?
 
 
+2 # RODNOX 2014-11-12 22:57
and top this off with the feds arming the cops as soldiers
 
 
+1 # tom paine devotee 2014-11-13 14:03
All of these aberrations to our Constitutional Rights have been around for years. It has only been since 1980 that they have expanded to their current level. Now the both houses of the Congress has been turned over to the republicans you can expect such thing to happen much more frequently
Also we have voted in a bunch of scientific deniers so the things that have to be done to prevent the exponential rise in the climate crises ,
will be on the back burner, possibly until it is too late.
 
 
0 # Corvette-Bob 2015-01-04 18:30
As a retired attorney, I could tell many outrages stores how police departments seize property and require people to pay large sums to get them back. One example, a city in Michigan hired a good looking woman to stand on a street corner dressed real sexy. If men said anything to her, they would seize their cars, and say that he was soliciting her. One man, I represented was walking and they went to his house and seized his car and said that was an instrument in the crime.
 

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