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Excerpt: "The United States has proof that the Russian government in Moscow is running a network of spies inside eastern Ukraine because the U.S. government has recordings of their conversations."

John Kerry said the US listened in on Russian calls to its spies in Ukraine. (photo: Landov)
John Kerry said the US listened in on Russian calls to its spies in Ukraine. (photo: Landov)


Kerry: US Taped Moscow's Calls to Its Ukraine Spies

By The Daily Beast

01 May 14

 

he secretary of state claimed in a private meeting that the U.S. intelligence community has recordings of pro-Russian forces being managed by government handlers in Moscow.

The United States has proof that the Russian government in Moscow is running a network of spies inside eastern Ukraine because the U.S. government has recordings of their conversations, Secretary of State John Kerry said in a closed-door meeting Friday.

“Intel is producing taped conversations of intelligence operatives taking their orders from Moscow and everybody can tell the difference in the accents, in the idioms, in the language. We know exactly who’s giving those orders, we know where they are coming from,” Kerry said at a private meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Washington. A recording of Kerry’s remarks was obtained by The Daily Beast.

Kerry didn’t name specific Russian officials implicated in the recordings. But he claimed that the intercepts provided proof of the Russians deliberately fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine—and lying about it to U.S. officials and the public.

“It’s not an accident that you have some of the same people identified who were in Crimea and in Georgia and who are now in east Ukraine,” said Kerry. “This is insulting to everybody’s intelligence, let alone to our notions about how we ought to be behaving in the 21st century. It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.”

Representatives for the State Department and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence did not respond to requests for comment. On Tuesday, however, State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki said Kerry was referring to Ukrainian intelligence in his remarks on Friday, adding The Daily Beast's story was a "mischaracterization." Kerry at no point in his remarks indicated that he was referring to Ukrainian intelligence.

Kerry has asserted publicly before that Russian intelligence officers were the “catalyst” behind the riots and government building takeovers in eastern Ukraine. But on Friday he told the private audience why he—and the U.S. intelligence community—were so sure of this assessment.

If U.S. intelligence agencies have intercepted proof of Russia’s destabilization operations, as Kerry claims, it means that the code-breakers and eavesdroppers in the National Security Agency and the broader American armed forces have overcome Russian efforts to hide their military communications. In March, the Wall Street Journal reported that U.S. agencies were surprised that it had not collected any telltale signs of the Crimea stealth invasion at the end of February, suggesting the Russians had managed to give such orders without the United States knowing about it.

The intercepts also come as more proof has mounted inside Ukraine that Russia is behind the provocations, uprisings and other actions aimed at ripping the country apart. On Monday Ukraine's internal security service claimed they caught the self appointed separatist deputy mayor of Slavyansk with cash and encryption equipment on a return trip from Moscow. Last month, The Daily Beast reported the first signs of a Russian shadow invasion of Ukraine, noting Ukrainian arrests in eastern cities of people suspected of espionage.

The U.S. European Command relies primarily upon the RC-135 Rivet Joint to vacuum up electronic communications from Russia. These jets—variants of the Boeing 707 model—are equipped with advanced sensor and signal intercept packages. The other primary spy plane used by U.S. Navy to eavesdrop on such communications is the EP3, flown out off U.S. naval stations in Rota, Spain and Sigonella, Italy. The EP3 is the same spy plane grounded by the Chinese military at the beginning of the George W. Bush administration in 2001.

The Russians are also listening in on the conversations of Ukrainian and Western officials. U.S. intelligence agencies believe that Russia has been behind a spate of such intercepted telephone conversations leaked out on the Internet and publicized by Russian state media. Traditionally the Russians use their own Beriev A-50 surveillance and early-warning aircraft to spy on the communications of its adversaries.

Kerry previewed to the group of influential world leaders Monday’s announcement that the Obama administration is adding a group of Russian officials, businessmen, and institutions to its sanctions list. He gave new details about the administration’s planning of economic assaults on broad sections of the Russian economy that the U.S. would impose only if Vladimir Putin decides to launch an all-out invasion of eastern Ukraine.

“I’m not convinced he’s made the decision to cross the line with his troops because then it’s absolutely no question that its full force sector sanctions, energy, banking, finance, technology, arms, you name it, they are all on the table,” Kerry said. “We are trying to find a way to do sector sanctions so it is minimal negative impact on Europe and Canada and the U.S. but maximum impact on Russia. We believe there is a way to do sector sanctions with a scalpel, not a sledgehammer.”

Kerry said that he believes there is discord within the camp surrounding Putin and that Putin is now feeling pressure to relinquish his policy of aggressively interfering inside Ukraine.

 

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+31 # Valleyboy 2014-05-01 09:13
Kerry. “This is insulting to everybody’s intelligence, let alone to our notions about how we ought to be behaving in the 21st century. It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.”

From a man who said things like "The whole world is threatened if we don't take out Saddam now" in the run-up to the Iraq war.

The word "Hypocracy" doesn't even begin to cover it.
This is to hypocracy what hubris is to arrogance, hubris coincedentally being another word necessary to describe the American Empire.
 
 
+21 # dsepeczi 2014-05-01 09:47
Quoting Valleyboy:
Kerry. “This is insulting to everybody’s intelligence, let alone to our notions about how we ought to be behaving in the 21st century. It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.”

From a man who said things like "The whole world is threatened if we don't take out Saddam now" in the run-up to the Iraq war.

The word "Hypocracy" doesn't even begin to cover it.
This is to hypocracy what hubris is to arrogance, hubris coincedentally being another word necessary to describe the American Empire.


Furthermore, I'm willing to bet that, although Kerry claims to have proof of Russia's involvement, nobody will ever actually be allowed to listen to that proof. If anyone asks, they'll be told it's "classified". Is this "proof" as concrete as his proof that Syria launched a Sarin gas attack on the rebels ? Is it as solid as the US claims that Saddam had WMDs ? If so, I'd demand that the tapes be released for public scrutiny before I'd believe anything that idiot claims. Lol.
 
 
+12 # harleysch 2014-05-01 11:23
Don't forget his "evidence" that Assad's forces were responsible for chemical weapon attacks last summer, violating Obama's so-called red line? Sy Hersch's report shows just how honest Kerry is, in promoting his 21st century imperial doctrines.
 
 
+8 # Granny Weatherwax 2014-05-01 13:40
Or for that matter that UBL did 911, a set of proofs that was supposed to be made public and to my attentive knowledge never was.
 
 
+2 # RMDC 2014-05-02 07:36
as Putin said during the Syrian false flag sarin episode -- "if you have the proof, then show it. If you don't show the proof, then you don't have it, so shut the fuck up." Well Putin did not put in the "fuck" part but he should have. This is the response that all the world should make to Kerry and his lies.
 
 
+8 # Activista 2014-05-01 11:24
Kerry completely made it up (or listens to the script from Kiev)- The Daily Beast and Kerry are insulting to everybody’s intelligence. Psychologists call it projection .. projecting our/US actions on Russia
 
 
+6 # Radscal 2014-05-01 16:08
I"ve no doubt that the current mess in Ukraine was fomented by the U.S. and our State Department is lying about most everything related to foreign policy.

However, I'd be very surprised if the Russian government was not in contact with, and even giving advice to their friends in Ukraine. With NATO missiles aimed at Russia appearing ever closer to Russia, they'd best be doing what they can to keep those missiles from being installed right on their border.
 
 
+18 # Anonymot 2014-05-01 09:51
The new, revised Kerry is not known for his truthful, straightforward self of yore. He can say ANYTHING and he knows that no honest member of the public has the wherewithal to check it.

Noticably absent is any comment on the existant tapes of Hillary, Vicky, Brennan, Clapper and that crowd, Kerry included, speaking with our spies and Ukranian shills.

Once again State & the CIA have opened Pandora's box and don't know what to do with what's crawled out.
 
 
+18 # tedrey 2014-05-01 09:52
“It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.”

Only if they do it. If we do it, it's just business as usual.
 
 
+13 # TomThumb 2014-05-01 10:27
Why should we believe anything that comes from the US State Dept., or any US govmnt agency, anyway. The US State Dept. has become a subsidiary of the CIA and Defense Dept. Besides that, its only for show. At least the Russian govmnt still believes in diplomacy. The only tactics the US govmnt have are subterfuge and force. Tommy Rimes
 
 
+9 # Mike J 2014-05-01 11:00
Our leaders seem to have learned something, at least, from Colin Powell's U.N. debacle. Now they're saying "everyone" recognises the different accents.
I just hope we, the people, learned something from that, as well, mainly to not accept anything like this at face value. We should always be asking ourselves, "What are they trying to hide?"
 
 
+7 # jwb110 2014-05-01 12:03
It's kind of the "pot calling the kettle black", don't you think?
 
 
+10 # dsepeczi 2014-05-01 12:14
Kerry on Syria: "We know rockets came only from regime-controll ed areas and went to only oppositon-contr olled or contested areas".... WRONG ! Turns out those rockets were likely fired by people we're working with in Turkey, in the hopes that they could pull it off to use Obama's "red line" statement to draw us into another war.

Kerry on Russia: "You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pre-text." ... So wrong on so many counts that I literally chuckled reading that one. I guess he already chose to forget about Iraq and all the other countries, including Ukraine, itself, that we started trouble in without provocation.

So typical. I can't trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Does he really think we're that dumb ? Oh, I have proof ... you can't see it or listen to it .... but, trust me, it exists. You just have to trust me. Blah, blah. blah. Sorry, Kerry. I don't. With Iraq, the US lost all credibility and should now have to prove all it says is true. Ugh. John Kerry .... I think we'd be better off if the nation was run by Jim Carrey. Ace Ventura could do a better job running our foreign policy. Lol.
 
 
+10 # Polfrosch 2014-05-01 12:15
Q: How can you tell Kerry is lying?

A: He moves his lips.
 
 
+8 # dsepeczi 2014-05-01 12:20
“It’s not an accident that you have some of the same people identified who were in Crimea and in Georgia and who are now in east Ukraine,” said Kerry. “This is insulting to everybody’s intelligence, let alone to our notions about how we ought to be behaving in the 21st century. It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.”

Notice how Kerry, again, tries to make a veiled reference to the photographic evidence that was mentioned in the NYT but later thoroughly debunked. Again, wonder if he's really that stupid or if he's just counting on everyone else being that stupid.
 
 
+10 # vladzo 2014-05-01 12:37
kerry has totaly forgotten about the thousands of serbians in the area of the city of KNIN who were evicted when the croatians changed that border. yes borders have been changed since the end of the cold war. it was in the former yugoslavia.
kerry does not know anything about the many national and ethnic groups of peoples in eastern europe. - vlad
 
 
+4 # dsepeczi 2014-05-01 12:39
Quoting vladzo:
kerry has totaly forgotten about the thousands of serbians in the area of the city of KNIN who were evicted when the croatians changed that border. yes borders have been changed since the end of the cold war. it was in the former yugoslavia.
kerry does not know anything about the many national and ethnic groups of peoples in eastern europe. - vlad


I'd go a step further. I'd say Kerry does not know anything .... about anything.
 
 
+7 # Kootenay Coyote 2014-05-01 12:53
& of course the USA has done nothing at all to foment all this. Nothing...& it never eavesdrops on anyone, either.
 
 
+6 # Activista 2014-05-01 20:27
Another scheme Kerry swallowed ..
"leaflets are being spread throughout the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk saying that government officials controlled by pro-Russian forces are ordering Jews to register with local authorities and pay a fee, or they could be deported and their assets could be confiscated.
Secretary of State John Kerry today called such actions “intolerable” and “grotesque.” But pro-Russian separatists flatly deny the allegations that they have been distributing leaflets requiring Jews to register....
Only people with limited intelligence or "smart" guys with no conscience can use the propaganda above ...
 
 
+2 # RMDC 2014-05-02 07:38
What is so strange is that the US is actively taking part in the new coup government in Kiev. Victoria Nuland said the US spent $5 billion in overthrowing the democratic government of Ukraine. It is true that the government was corrupt and ineffecitive, but that can't justify an outright foreign overthrow of a nation and its sovereignty and the installation of a Nazi regime.

At least Russia is a next door neighbor to Ukraine and the population of Ukraine is about half Russian. Putin had better intervene in Ukraine.

What is the US excuse for intervening?
 
 
0 # chizables 2014-05-02 12:50
Kerry's a LIAR - just like all the rest of them.
 

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