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Goldenberg writes: "The National Security Agency's blanket collection of US citizens' phone records was 'not really the American way', Al Gore said on Friday, declaring that he believed the practice to be unlawful."

Al Gore testifies on Capitol Hill before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on global climate change. (photo: Susan Walsh/AP)
Al Gore testifies on Capitol Hill before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on global climate change. (photo: Susan Walsh/AP)



Al Gore: NSA's Secret Surveillance Program 'Not Really the American Way'

By Suzanne Goldenberg, Guardian UK

15 June 13

he National Security Agency's blanket collection of US citizens' phone records was "not really the American way", Al Gore said on Friday, declaring that he believed the practice to be unlawful.

In his most expansive comments to date on the NSA revelations, the former vice-president was unsparing in his criticism of the surveillance apparatus, telling the Guardian security considerations should never overwhelm the basic rights of American citizens.

He also urged Barack Obama and Congress to review and amend the laws under which the NSA operated.

"I quite understand the viewpoint that many have expressed that they are fine with it and they just want to be safe but that is not really the American way," Gore said in a telephone interview. "Benjamin Franklin famously wrote that those who would give up essential liberty to try to gain some temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Since the 2000 elections, when Gore won the popular vote but lost the presidency to George W Bush, the former vice-president has tacked to the left of the Democratic party, especially on his signature issue of climate change.

Gore spoke on Friday from Istanbul where he was about to lead one of his climate change training workshops for 600 global activists. Such three-day training sessions on behalf of the Climate Reality Project are now one of his main concerns.

Unlike other leading Democrats and his former allies, Gore said he was not persuaded by the argument that the NSA surveillance had operated within the boundaries of the law.

"This in my view violates the constitution. The fourth amendment and the first amendment � and the fourth amendment language is crystal clear," he said. "It is not acceptable to have a secret interpretation of a law that goes far beyond any reasonable reading of either the law or the constitution and then classify as top secret what the actual law is."

Gore added: "This is not right."

The former vice-president was also unmoved by some recent opinion polls suggesting public opinion was in favour of surveillance

"I am not sure how to interpret polls on this, because we don't do dial groups on the bill of rights," he said.

He went on to call on Barack Obama and Congress to review the laws under which the NSA expanded its surveillance. "I think that the Congress and the administration need to make some changes in the law and in their behaviour so as to honour and obey the constitution of the United States," he said. "It is that simple."

He rejected outright calls by the Republican chair of the house homeland security committee, Peter King, for prosecution of journalists who cover security leaks, such as the Guardian's Glenn Greenwald.

Gore did say, however, that he had serious concerns about some aspects of the testimony offered by national intelligence director James Clapper during testimony to the Senate intelligence committee last March.

Clapper, in response to pointed questions from Democratic senator Ron Wyden, had said during that appearance that the NSA did not collect data on Americans.

"I was troubled by his direct response to Senator Wyden's very pointed question," Gore said. "I was troubled by that."

Gore has long had qualms about the expansion of the surveillance state in the digital age. He made those concerns public this year in his latest book, The Future: Six Drivers of Social Change, in which he warned: "Surveillance technologies now available � including the monitoring of virtually all digital information � have advanced to the point where much of the essential apparatus of a police state is already in place."

Within hours of the Guardian's first story about the NSA, the former vice-president tweeted: "In digital era, privacy must be a priority. Is it just me, or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous?

He said on Friday: "Some of us thought that it was probably going on, but what we have learned since then makes it a cause for deep concern."

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+32 # fredboy 2013-07-10 11:20
No surprises. I passed up a reporting opportunity with the Post in the 80s when I visited and realized it was mainly a bunch of Ivy League journalism wannabees. Hard to be a focused, ball-busting, hardcore investigative reporter in that setting.
 
 
+18 # HowardMH 2013-07-10 13:22
I'm sure Obama the Wimp is approving the Post Story because it takes the attention away from what Snowden leaked about the NSA. Everybody talking about Snowden, NOT the Leak about what the NSA is doing.
 
 
-134 # katela 2013-07-10 11:52
Glenn Greenwald is a self-serving opportunist who is on his ass at Ipanema while his naive puppet is sitting on his at the Moscow airport. How come schnook Eddie is on the line and Glenn isn't?
 
 
+29 # engelbach 2013-07-10 13:36
Your post is as much a lie as the incredibly false information it seems to be based on.

Your love for the Constitution-ha ting NSA is duly noted.
 
 
-15 # Johnny 2013-07-10 13:38
C'mon, folks. Where's your sense of humor? Can't you tell that Bro. Katela is parodying the official Washington Post hasbara?
 
 
+13 # Billsy 2013-07-10 14:28
While Greenwald deals in facts, facts whose exposition causes much anger and consternation among the power elite, you deal in petty name calling. I can't take your comment seriously.
 
 
+7 # DPM 2013-07-10 20:41
Quoting katela:
Glenn Greenwald is a self-serving opportunist who is on his ass at Ipanema while his naive puppet is sitting on his at the Moscow airport. How come schnook Eddie is on the line and Glenn isn't?

Walter? Did you write this?
 
 
+27 # mdhome 2013-07-10 12:04
Why I am no longer a subscriber to the Post
 
 
+1 # rhgreen 2013-07-11 07:55
Quoting mdhome:
Why I am no longer a subscriber to the Post

The Canadian equivalent is the Toronto Globe&Mail which likes to fancy itself as Canada's "newspaper of record". I parted company with them when they recommended electing a Conservative majority govt (Stephen Harper as PM) in the last federal election campaign. They got their wish - I often wonder if they regret it. Common sense would suggest that they should. Anyway, for that and other reasons I gave up on them and shifted to the Toronto Star - which is also partisan but unlike the G&M doesn't pretend it isn't - and is partisan in a more civilized way. Also, the Star has much better columnists: Haroon Siddiqi, Heather Mallick, Linda Mcuaig, Thomas Walkom, Tim Harper, Rick Salutin, Chantal Hebert, ...
 
 
+1 # Douglas Jack 2013-07-11 10:17
There are two characteristics to publicly responsible media:
1) Participatory Media who's shares are owned by all Founder, Worker, Supplier & Consumer stakeholders who are represented in systems of Progressive Ownership in distinct associations & on the corporate board of directors. Time-based accounting in participatory companies accords credits for each stakeholder's exceptional natural contributions. When each of these 4 stakeholders exceptionally contribute expertise, time, resources, money, property, good, services or patronage, there are ways to measure the market value & accord shares.
https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/7-participatory-companies

2) The news presented covers all perspectives, reporting from all sides with often conflicting vantages given. If media is not presenting all sides, they have a particular agenda, are lazy & usually are deliberately lying. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
 
 
+44 # dkonstruction 2013-07-10 12:13
Why anyone would be surprised at finding shoddy journalism in the WP is beyond me. The problem with the WP though go far beyond shoddy journalism (though this is of course bad enough) and goes back decades.

In 1975, the WP's unionized printers went out on strike. The post's response was to fire them and replace them with non-union labor. One can I think make a reasonable case that this became the precedent for Ronald Reagan doing the same thing to the unionized air traffic controllers in 1981 (hard to imagine Reagan's staff was unaware of this move on the part of the "liberal" WP and figured hey if the "liberal" WP can do it it's a no brainer for us to do the same).
 
 
+32 # Lgfoot 2013-07-10 12:19
So why is this bastion of the "liberal media" working so hard for the neocons and plutocrats? Has the beltway bubble engulfed them too? Or have they been pretend journalists for quite a while, enabling invasions with their coddling of the government and its industry masters?
 
 
+1 # DontBuryLead 2013-07-11 07:58
Corporations are not individual human beings. They are unnatural individuals. They are a legal creation. Stop with the "labels". The Washington Post is a newspaper. A Corporation is not a real person. It isn't liberal, conservative, green, libertarian, et al. It has a board and editors, but each article and/or writer must stand on its own in understanding or critiquing an article. GG has pointed out obvious skill, knowledge, and generational facts about a "seasoned" journalist and the response of that employee's board and the editor's. The 1970's, 80's era of Wash.Post vs. (Moon's)Wash.Ti mes has passed into history.
 
 
+21 # James Marcus 2013-07-10 12:49
There is no News, anymore. A Difficult Swallow.Though perspective always colored reporting, 'deliberate Propaganda' now colors much of what is 'News'. Once propaganda is prolific, now, far beyond any single news Source, how are we to discern Truth?
We cannot.
And All Scoundrels Rejoice.
 
 
+7 # Arden 2013-07-10 20:39
Yes, we CAN still discern the truth, once we understand the underlying modus operandi of the propagandists who have replaced true reporting at major newspapers.
 
 
+29 # Douglas Jack 2013-07-10 12:54
Thank you Glenn for keeping us informed about the nature of corporate media today. Truth is so important for social creatures such as humans. The Washington Post of the corporate Finance-Media-M ilitary-Industr ial-Complex earns our disdain, distrust & contempt. Consequences of their deliberate corporation-ser ving lies are many 10s of millions of deaths in Al CIAda financed arming to create civil wars & our illegal invasions & bombing campaigns over the past 50 years in the 3rd world but as well many more deaths due to pharmaceutical- drugs, complex synthetic pesticides, toxins in our plastic material world & unsafe body damaging technologies coming from the 1st world, which kill everywhere in greater numbers.

What goes around comes around. What do we expect for the invasions & destruction of humanity's sustainable vastly abundant worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') cultures? Do we expect to just continue on in the destructive colonial patterns we worship? If we want to move forward as a sustainable people, then we will have to address our foundations. www.indigenecommunity.info
 
 
+6 # cordleycoit 2013-07-10 13:02
The Post throw soft balls and knuckle balls along with spit balls? Bet you not one reporter there can name the pimp for JFK's partner? Much less the rag he owned. To expect honesty from Harvard men? you know they are from the corporate class with better pedigree's than an Irish Setter. At least the setter will come home when hunger sets in. Harvard guys seem to bask in ignorance.Thank you Glenn for your work with th a difficult story. One question where does Hastings fit in and why the silence of the sheep over that tragedy? RemeberDon Bowles.
 
 
+20 # Alternative 2013-07-10 13:10
I like your tenacity, your ethics and your courage Glenn. Thanks for what you do for all of us. What can we do to help you?
 
 
+16 # larrypayne 2013-07-10 13:22
What puzzles me is--what did Snowden reveal that we didn't already know? We have known for years that NSA is reading our emails and listening to our phone calls. James Bamford informed us of the massive HSA facility in Bluffton, UT, which will store the results of their spying on us. We had also been informed that Corporations such as Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Verizon, Yahoo, etc. were giving our personal information to NSA. So where is the traitorous act? And why did Snowden get so much press for telling us what we already know?
 
 
-4 # crinvegas 2013-07-10 14:10
You'd have to be deaf, dumb, or blind not to know about this years ago. And most of the populace belongs in at least one of those categories, or we would not be reading all of this press coverage. The Snowden story is a non-story, IF you'd been paying attention. He wasn't even paying attention, or he wouldn't have 'leaked.' Nevertheless, he did leak, so he has commmitted a crime.
 
 
+5 # Arden 2013-07-10 20:53
I gave you the green thumb in error. What I meant to do was say that "years ago", 20-somethings now, were just children. People are continuously learning the truth, so Snowden's revelations ARE new to many people.
 
 
+4 # larrypayne 2013-07-11 11:51
But isn't it curious that the media would reveal Snowden's leaks when they won't reveal the leaks of experts which have much more importance.

Major General Albert Stubblebine, a member of U.S. Military Intelligence Hall of Fame,
tried to get the truth out that no plane hit the Pentagon and the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition. No mainstream media including The Guardian would cover his statements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E

Ted Gunderson, former head of FBI for Los Angeles, Houston and Memphis, gave his opinions on why 9/11 was an inside job. No mainstream media would cover that either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaezLTU2a0

So why is the media covering Snowdon?
 
 
+1 # Arden 2013-07-11 20:31
Not really, because that was then, and this is now. Over time, things evolve, and what is known about 9/11 can now no longer be contained. Back then, maybe they thought they could still contain it. So the game changes. Pardon me for calling it a game. It is very serious.

9/11 is the key to ending war forever, in my opinion.
 
 
+1 # larrypayne 2013-07-12 06:14
Unfortunately, the mainstream news media is still concealing the truth about 9/11 from the majority of the world.

If the majority knew the truth, it would certainly end the fake war on terror. But would that cause our illusion of democracy to be replaced with the very apparent police state that is lurking in the background, stockpiling millions of rounds of hollow-point bullets?
 
 
-1 # Arden 2013-07-12 15:44
Not necessarily, and hopefully not. But it depends on what kind of world they want. They are scared, and trying to scare us into leaving them alone. It won't work, because the truth is like water. It flows.
 
 
+2 # larrypayne 2013-07-13 19:52
They may be concerned, but not much.

They have the wealth. They own the media.
They have the police state in place.

And most of the people I talk to have bought their lies.
 
 
+8 # crinvegas 2013-07-10 14:28
He gets a lot of press coverage, because most people haven't been paying attention to the Patriot Act and what has followed. What I care about is our collective ignorance of the facts. Snowden gets a lot of cheap publicity by telling us things we should have known.
 
 
+4 # Kootenay Coyote 2013-07-10 19:40
'Snowden gets a lot of cheap publicity by telling us things we should have known.'

So why is he cheap if you didn't know?
 
 
-1 # Timaloha 2013-07-10 19:31
Quoting larrypayne:
What puzzles me is--what did Snowden reveal that we didn't already know?....And why did Snowden get so much press for telling us what we already know?

The answers are 1) Nothing, and 2)Because the rightwing (and extreme left) saw this as an opportunity to vilify Obama.
 
 
+5 # larrypayne 2013-07-10 20:21
An alternate answer to your #2 would be that by criminalizing Snowden for leaking that information, the spying would be judged by the public as being legal.

The uninformed majority in this country would most likely buy the false premise that if it is criminal to reveal the spying, the spying must be legal.
 
 
-7 # Timaloha 2013-07-11 04:50
I'm pretty sure it's the physical removal of US government classified files and records and providing access to them to foreign governments - not the actual "leaking" (which as we've seen reveals essentially nothing new) - that moves his actions into the realm of criminality.
 
 
+6 # larrypayne 2013-07-11 08:27
Sandy Berger, Clinton's National Security Adviser, was fined $50,000 for stealing and destroying classified documents requested by the 9/11 Commission.

Are Snowden's actions worse than Berger's who only had to pay a fine?
 
 
-6 # Timaloha 2013-07-11 19:30
"Are Snowden's actions worse than Berger's who only had to pay a fine?"

Yes, of course they are! Snowden stole and SHARED classified US intelligence with foreign powers who do not necessarily have our best interests at heart. That's textboook espionage and probably legally treasonous.
 
 
+4 # Johnny 2013-07-10 13:36
Glenn is a brilliant journalist. So it is obvious he is just pretending when he expresses surprise that the Washington Post perseverates in propaganda. It has been obvious to all journalists for many years that the Washington Post publishes only Zionist hasbara, not news.
 
 
+12 # seeuingoa 2013-07-10 15:07
Dear Glenn,

Just keep tracking !
 
 
+12 # Kootenay Coyote 2013-07-10 19:41
How about a Pulitzer Prize for Greenald?
 
 
0 # RobertMStahl 2013-07-10 15:17
Wikileaks has become Moby Dick for Ahab, propaganda in other words, to 'get stinking.' I guess they think if something smells of anything, a smell they generate like excrement, it is equivalent to death. That is how covert our system is.

Anyone read today's Paul Craig Roberts article about Putin's remarks at the G8?
 
 
+20 # Stuart McDonald 2013-07-10 15:49
The Washington Post is the newspaper which printed The Pentagon Papers and defended the leaker, Daniel Ellsberg, as the hero whistleblower he truly was. Today's Washington Post is a complete embarrassment in comparison. That old venerable newspaper would have never treated Julian Assange, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, The Guardian, or any other hero whistleblowers or news media which published their leaks -- now targeted by our current, lying and corrupt President and his administration -- the way today's version has done and continues to do. Now it just prints paid-for false propaganda as news.
 
 
+19 # MindDoc 2013-07-10 16:13
So sad to see that now when one refers to "The Post" in terms of fantasy 'reportage' and clueless "reporting", coupled with "go for it" editorial indifference to actual facts -- there's less and less difference between the Washington Post (once lauded as the "good" Post) and Murdoch/Fox's NY Post, which is a step below even yellow tabloid make-it-up-as-y ou-go-along shock 'journalism' passing as a 'newspaper'. (Remember paper? News?)

So thankful for anyone (like Greenwald) who believes that facts are good things, and competency should be a requirement in journalism. Or call the reports and paper, "opinion", not news.
 
 
+2 # Rita Walpole Ague 2013-07-12 07:45
Great comment, MindDoc - and so thankful to Greenwald and other real McCoy journalists/whi stleblowers/act ivists I am, such as the great, brave and determined to restore rule of law plaintiffs in the Hedges, et. al. v. Obama, et. al. 'case of the century'
 
 
+5 # Jack Gibson 2013-07-10 22:59
Man, Glenn Greenwald, Pincus and the Washington Post are "digging their own grave" for a potential libel suit. I hope you sue to them for all they're worth; because, on top of "simple" libel alone, they have, with that libel, intentionally sought for repressive action(s) to be taken against you by the government by painting you as a so-called "criminal" and "national security threat", intentionally helping the government to make such claims. But, Glenn Greenwald, you certainly weren't born yesterday, and are highly intelligent, so I have no doubt that you are already preparing to take legal action(s) against them, if you haven't already, as I speak. It is my sincere hope that you prevail to the tune of millions of dollars in damages or in an out-of-court settlement; because, needless to say, this is what Pincus and the Washington Post more than deserve for this flagrant violation of civil law, and threat to your health, safety and liberty at the hands of a now completely out control, repressive, totalitarian, national "security" militarized police state that the U.S. government has become, and a distinct example of the "Ing Soc" (English Socialism) totalitarian militarized police state of George Orwell's seminal "novel-of-warni ng", "1984".

God protect and preserve you, and the nothing but True Liberty and Freedom, and True Journalism, that you represent and uphold, Glenn Greenwald. God speed, True Patriot; and may you live long and prosper in those continued pursuits!
 
 
+7 # RMDC 2013-07-11 04:45
Major papers like the WaPo see their role as disciplining any journalists who steps outside of the bounds of what they consider "responsible" journalism. By responsible they mean supporting the US regime and its foreign policies.

The case of Gary Webb is monumental. When he published his stories in the San Jose Mercury about CIA and cocaine traffic to gangs in LA, the WaPo lead the attack on Webb for his reporting. I recall Pincus was a leader in that attack.

We must remember that Walter Pincus was one reporter exposed in the 70s as having taken payments from the CIA. The Church Committee exposed 300 US journalists who took bribes from the CIA -- regular payroll they called it.

The WaPo story on Greenwald is not new. This is what Pincus and the Post have done over and over. They are the gatekeepers of news. They break the stories that they think americans should know and they cover up what they think americans should not know. Katherine Graham, long time owner of the Post, said exactly this in an interview, "there are some things the people should not know." Hardly, the right attitude for an owner of a major newspaper.
 
 
+3 # kochadoodledoo 2013-07-11 05:24
What kind of newspaper would allow claims they know to be false to remain uncorrected for 15 hours? One owned and controlled by the wealthy.
 
 
+3 # Paul Larudee 2013-07-11 11:15
Glenn, would you agree that the Washington Post is one of the best mainstream newspapers in the U.S.? If so, it puts the depths of depravity in American journalism into focus.
 
 
+4 # annbromm 2013-07-11 12:27
What happened to the paper that published the Pentagon Papers? How the mighty are fallen. Are ALL major "news"papers catering to stinking (rich) corporations?
 
 
+2 # wleming 2013-07-12 09:31
Pincus and the Post are legendary... thats legendary- as State Dept. schills. This is a paper that helped talk the country into the Iraq war, and more. Is that fact now seen more clearly? Hope so.
 

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