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Woodward writes: "Petraeus, Ailes advised, should turn down an expected offer from President Obama to become CIA director and accept nothing less than the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top military post. If Obama did not offer the Joint Chiefs post, Petraeus should resign from the military and run for president, Ailes suggested."

In this June 29, 2012 file photo, Gen. David Petraeus testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington. (photo: Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP)
In this June 29, 2012 file photo, Gen. David Petraeus testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington. (photo: Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP)


Fox's Ailes Urged Petraeus to Run for President

By Bob Woodward, The Washington Post

04 December 12

 

 

Roger Ailes, the longtime Republican media guru, founder of Fox News and its current chairman, had some advice last year for then-Gen. David H. Petraeus.

o in spring 2011, Ailes asked a Fox News analyst headed to Afghanistan to pass on his thoughts to Petraeus, who was then the commander of U.S. and coalition forces there. Petraeus, Ailes advised, should turn down an expected offer from President Obama to become CIA director and accept nothing less than the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top military post. If Obama did not offer the Joint Chiefs post, Petraeus should resign from the military and run for president, Ailes suggested.

The Fox News chairman's message was delivered to Petraeus by Kathleen T. McFarland, a Fox News national security analyst and former national security and Pentagon aide in three Republican administrations. She did so at the end of a 90-minute, unfiltered conversation with Petraeus that touched on the general's future, his relationship with the media and his political aspirations - or lack thereof. The Washington Post has obtained a digital recording from the meeting, which took place in Petraeus's office in Kabul.

McFarland also said that Ailes - who had a decades-long career as a Republican political consultant, advising Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush - might resign as head of Fox to run a Petraeus presidential campaign. At one point, McFarland and Petraeus spoke about the possibility that Rupert Murdoch, the head of News Corp., which owns Fox News, would "bankroll" the campaign.

"Rupert's after me as well," Petraeus told McFarland.

McFarland said she had spoken "directly" to the Fox News chairman and the "advice to you from Roger Ailes is. ... He says that if you're offered [JCS] chairman, take it. If you're offered anything else, don't take it; resign in six months and run for president."

Petraeus demurred, saying he would consider the CIA directorship if Obama offered it, as the president did several weeks later. Petraeus was confirmed and sworn in as director on Sept. 6, 2011. He resigned a year later, on Nov. 9, after the disclosure of an extramarital affair with his biographer.

In a telephone interview Monday, the wily and sharp-tongued Ailes said he did indeed ask McFarland to make the pitch to Petraeus. "It was more of a joke, a wiseass way I have,"he said. "I thought the Republican field [in the primaries] needed to be shaken up and Petraeus might be a good candidate."

Ailes added, "It sounds like she thought she was on a secret mission in the Reagan administration. ... She was way out of line. ... It's someone's fantasy to make me a kingmaker. It's not my job." He said that McFarland was not an employee of Fox but a contributor paid less than $75,000 a year.

Petraeus, Murdoch and McFarland did not respond to calls and messages requesting comment.

When McFarland first said she had a message directly from Ailes, Petraeus said, "With no one else in the room, I hope?"

Later she said, "I'm only reporting this back to Roger. And that's our deal."

Petraeus said it was okay to relay his response to Ailes, adding "that has to be off the record."

"His deal with me was that I was only supposed to talk to you," McFarland said. "And he is a little paranoid, so believe me, he doesn't have anybody in that room."

At the meeting, some 18 months ago, Petraeus told McFarland that he thought the CIA was "a treasure. ... I think that organization is full of just heroes. Unsung heroes." He went on to say, "We're going to be retrenching militarily." In contrast, the CIA and the intelligence agencies, "I think, are going to be a growth industry," Petraeus said.

While rejecting Ailes' advice, Petraeus said, "I love Roger. ... He's a brilliant guy."

Petraeus said he "would love to see" Ailes on his next trip to New York, where Ailes has his office.

"Tell him if I ever ran," Petraeus said, and then laughed, "but I won't ... but if I ever ran, I'd take him up on his offer. ... He said he would quit Fox ... and bankroll it."

"Bankroll it?" asked McFarland, who served as a senior aide to Henry Kissinger and later as a Pentagon spokeswoman in the Reagan administration.

"Or maybe I'm confusing that with Rupert," Petraeus said.

"I know Roger, he's done okay," McFarland replied, "but ... no, I think the one who's bankrolling it is the big boss."

"That might be it," Petraeus said.

"Okay," McFarland said, "the big boss is bankrolling it. Roger's going to run it. And the rest of us are going to be your in-house."

"Yeah, right, okay," Petraeus said.

"We're all set."

"It's never going to happen," Petraeus said. "You know it's never going to happen. It really isn't.

"My wife would divorce me," he added. "And I love my wife. ... We have a beautiful house." Both Petraeus and McFarland laughed. "With his-and-hers bathrooms, believe it or not. I just want to live in it. I've never spent a night in it."

* * *

The digital recording also provides a glimpse into the close relationship Petraeus had with the news media, especially Fox News. At one point, McFarland declared that "everybody at Fox loves you," adding that Ailes had directed her to ask Petraeus whether "there [is] anything Fox is doing, right or wrong, that you want to tell us to do differently?"

Petraeus didn't hesitate. "The editorial policy of Fox had shifted," he said. "It was almost as if, because they're going after Obama, they had to go after Obama's war as well." He said he had discussed this with Bret Baier, a key Fox anchor.

"Papers and news outlets have editorial policies," Petraeus said. "They know sort of how their bosses feel about things ... and it causes a certain shading," Petraeus continued.

One example, according to Petraeus: "Off the record, the New York Times was never going to give Bush or Iraq a break. I don't care what happened.

"In fact, one time Thom Shanker [a Times military correspondent], who I think very highly of, wrote a piece. And it was on me, before I was going to testify one time, and they had — a pretty good piece, I mean, factual, in other words. Again, all we want is the truth. We're not out to spin. But then it had this sort of really odd thing inserted in it. And it was something that had been proven unfounded, but it sort of bounced around on the MoveOn.org kind of Webs. And I said, "Thom, where did that come from?' He said, "Oh, that was added by the editors.'?"

Both journalists had different recollections. Baier said he recalled no such conversation with Petraeus. "That's B.S.," he said. "We cover the war the same way no matter what administration is in power."

Shanker also said he did not remember saying anything resembling what Petraeus asserted. "I don't blame the editors for what appears under my byline," he said. "It undermines your own credibility."

* * *

In the meeting with McFarland, Petraeus gave his standard line about the Afghanistan war, saying there had been significant progress, but "that progress remains fragile and reversible."

McFarland mentioned her conversation with Petraeus in a FoxNews.com piece on April 27, 2011. "Our discussion was off the record, and to respect that I will not quote the general," she wrote. By that time, it was clear that Petraeus would be nominated as CIA director. "I can't help thinking that the Obama administration has done something a bit underhanded but politically shrewd by tapping Petraeus for the CIA," she added, because it would remove him as a "potential rival" in the presidential contest.

On Monday, Ailes, 72, said there was "zero chance" he would leave Fox to reenter politics for Petraeus or anyone else. "The money is too good," he said, declining to say how much he earned, although reliable reports have pegged the amount at roughly $20 million per year under a new four-year contract.

"I left politics in 1988 because I hated it," Ailes said. "My main interest is seeing my 12-year-old's basketball games."

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+29 # Rustyhank 2013-05-24 09:48
If we do not rein in BigAG, BigPharma, BigBanks, BigMedia andBigGov, we will become mindless robots and sell our souls to the the company store. Awake and Act before it is too late!
 
 
+20 # Arden 2013-05-24 10:35
They think they need to control us. The truth is we need to control them.
 
 
+6 # Doll 2013-05-24 15:22
Beautifully said.
 
 
-16 # jwb110 2013-05-24 09:49
Capitalism is a sink or swim system. The gov't that rules least rules best. Bad products or badly run businesses should fold under their own management. Gov't subsidy of business and I'll include all farm subsidies and soil bank, and dairy are a very bad idea. The Dept. of Agriculture should save the time factoring these subsidies and give that time to see how crops are produced and what the effect of farming has on the people. None of that cannot be done in an office and should not be. The safety and purity of the food for US citizens is their specific job.
Let the courts sort out the rest.
 
 
+11 # Doll 2013-05-24 15:26
So, you are saying you'd rather live in Somalia?

They have not had a working government for about 20 years - and the war lords move in the vacuum and take over.

We need more good government and less bad government. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 
 
+22 # Gibbous 2013-05-24 10:50
monsanto is trying to hold our government and us hostage. Isn't this the definition of terrorist?
 
 
+13 # dquandle 2013-05-24 12:57
The government is a completely willing hostage in that case. A better description would be a conspiracy between Monsanto and the government to hold the American people and their food supplies hostage. That qualifies as terrorism, and treason, all wrapped into a nice neat little package.
 
 
+8 # MindDoc 2013-05-24 13:01
Who needs food, anyway? (sarcasm of the 'let them eat GE cake' variety). As mainstream US media remain focused on human disaster (rightfully, when not exclusively US-centric), we get some relief from the carnival formerly known as Congress, turned partisan battlefield. Yet important stories and undone work, along with travesties like this further stealing of America, get still further from the national consciousness radar screen.

I've seen no mention at all of this 'protest' (or issue) in the print or television media of New York. I see no discussion of how this came to be, much less the implications for monopoly-owners hip of our planet's food supply. Not important? Try living without food. That seems to be the idea... Want food? Pay Monsanto. Want real, naturally evolved and grown food? Fughhetabout it . Gotta pay Monsanto first for seed.

Better living through chemistry and monopoly? Is anyone (besides readers 'here') paying attention - to the issue, to the law, or to the lawmakers? Maybe not, too many distractions.
 
 
+9 # reiverpacific 2013-05-24 13:33
@jbw110.
Capitalism is an exploitative "Winner-take-al l" and "Devil tak' the hindmost" system that encourages shabby but flashy products made in sweatshops with huge marketing budgets that only large corporations can afford thumped into dumbed-down consumer heads by a totally commercial owner-media monopoly, similarly shoddy in it's lack of content and a government for. of and by the corporations bought and paid for by lobbyist "burrowers".
If THAT doesn't describe Monsanto and their ilk, I don't know what does.
And letting the courts sort out the rest is pure piffle!
Monsanto especially, moves their huge batteries of corrupt lawyers into vulnerable countries (not yet Europe but they're trying hard), gets into the pockets of their mostly corrupt governments and takes over and patents seeds and crops that have been sustainably cultivated for millennia, causing mass suicides of farmers who can no longer afford the "patented" crops like Atta (Chapati) flour and many kinds of rice.
Hell they just sued an Indiana farmer who tried to locally trade his soybean seeds allegedly with a hint of Monanto's GMO crap. So the courts here are complicit too!
They are after nothing less that domination, in the worst, ruthless totalitarian way, what is grown, sold and eaten worldwide.
And YOUR leaders and judiciary whores are all part of the master plan by turning heads or worse, cashing in.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2013-05-24 19:23
reiverpacific.
II was curious and sent an e-mail to you.At reiverpacific@j bw110, but got it back as
permanent failure. No address like it.
I'm disapppointed.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2013-05-24 19:35
reiverpacific. God, I am stupid I just realized that you were responding to jbw.

I just saw that several women' groups are going after Facebook because they have some INCREDIBLY OFFENCIVE postings depicting rape of women as a big joke. And they refuse to take them down.

So.....the women are going after Facebook sponsors and tell them they will boycot their products if the support such crap.
And they are going after a lot, and there are MANY groups.NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF WOMEN. especially when they get angry.

Could WE figure a way of "getting" Monsanto??
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2013-05-25 10:05
Quoting X Dane:
reiverpacific. God, I am stupid I just realized that you were responding to jbw.

I just saw that several women' groups are going after Facebook because they have some INCREDIBLY OFFENCIVE postings depicting rape of women as a big joke. And they refuse to take them down.
So.....the women are going after Facebook sponsors and tell them they will boycot their products if the support such crap.
And they are going after a lot, and there are MANY groups.NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF WOMEN. especially when they get angry.

Could WE figure a way of "getting" Monsanto??


Well, the people of both genders are taking to the streets world wide including this country (there's a big rally in Portland OR and many other cities including DC, over the weekend and this anti-Monsanto movement is growing.
 
 
+6 # She Cee 2013-05-24 13:54
So, with all the information coming forth and the need to stop Monsanto, where is the action. Are their no demonstrations, no petitions?

We are reading about how dangerous GMO crops are but who is out there demonstrating and fighting against Monsanto and those in our government who support all of Monsanto's dangerous practices?
 
 
+1 # DPM 2013-05-24 22:47
There are world wide demonstrations on Saturday, 05/25/2013. In 100 countries. I'll be marching.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2013-05-25 17:29
reiverpacific

I am glad to hear that.Unfortunat ely my marching days are in the past. my feet do not allow it anymore. But I do what I can in other ways.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2013-05-25 17:30
DPM

THANBK YOU
 
 
-4 # wherefore 2013-05-24 13:55
There is nothing called the Monsanto Protection Act. I agree with the sentiments here, but if we use over-the-top emotional language, we lose a lot of people. In any case, that provision in a much, much bigger act of Congress will expire in September.
 
 
+3 # Cassandra2012 2013-05-24 22:20
not over-the-top, at all, just the underlying unvarnished truth.
 
 
0 # David P 2013-05-26 23:54
There is nothing called, "Obamacare" but that didn't stop the term from being used...
 
 
+6 # George Orwell 2013-05-24 17:32
Join the World-wide March Against Monsanto tomorrow (Saturday, May 25 2:00 pm. Find the nearest venue at: www.march-against-monsanto.com.
 
 
+2 # X Dane 2013-05-24 18:33
Arden, Yes we sure need to control THEM and Mind Doc, reiverpacific and the rest of you,....except jvb 110,.....who is dead WRONG, SO what do we do. i sign any petition I can and forward them to friends, and ask them to sign too.

I write my senators and representatives,
I even talk to relative strangers and ask them how they feel about the gm foods and labeling..."Wou ld you not like to know what is actually in the food you eat?"

dquandle is so right, Monsanto are terrorists, and should be exposed as such, so people would see and understand what they are doing not just to us, but to so many other countries.

I have mentioned to several of my friends, how Monsanto is causing so many suicides in India, because they go bankrupt when they can not use the corn as seed corn, but must by new every year.

But I am just ONE Grandma, a very concerned grandma. How can I do more, how can I be more effective?? Oh I also write letters to the editor.
 
 
+2 # Cassandra2012 2013-05-24 22:20
Yes, Xdane, me too... well, old enough to be a grandma, though my sons have not yet deigned to produce any kids.
And am in no shape to actually go marching in a protest these days, though I've done so in my time. So my pen and computer have to do the 'marching' ... I have sent on the clear articles on Monsanto in emails to friends all over the country too. What else can we do?
A CONCISE ACCURATE LIST OF PRODUCTS WITH GMOs TO BOYCOTT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO PUBLISH SO WE CAN INFORM THOSE WE KNOW... anyone have such a list?
 
 
+1 # DPM 2013-05-24 22:48
Join us tomorrow, grandma. March against Monsanto.
 

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