Excerpt: "Mr. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent among likely voters in Ohio."
The crowd cheers as U.S. President Barack Obama arrives to speak at a campaign rally in Richmond, Virginia October 25, 2012. (photo: Kadie/Democratic Underground)
Obama Leading In Ohio, Virginia, and Florida
31 October 12
resident Obama has maintained a five-point lead in the crucial swing state of Ohio, according to a new Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll of likely voters. The survey found that Mitt Romney has gained ground in Florida and Virginia, where the race is now effectively tied.
Mr. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent among likely voters in Ohio - exactly where the race stood on Oct. 22. His lead in Florida, however, has shrunk from nine points in September to just one point in the new survey, which shows Mr. Obama with 48 percent support and Romney with 47 percent. The president's lead in Virginia has shrunk from five points in early October to two points in the new survey, which shows him with a 49 percent to 47 percent advantage.
The margin of error in the poll is plus or minus three percentage points. The survey was taken from Oct. 23 to 28 and completed before the onset of the "superstorm" Sandy.
Romney has taken the lead among seniors in Florida in the new survey and increased his lead among white voters, and he has a significant advantage among independents in Virginia. In Florida and Ohio, the candidates are now running about even on handling the economy. In Virginia, Romney has an edge.
In Florida and Ohio, the president leads among those who have already cast their ballots, with a significant lead in Ohio, 60 to 34 percent. In Florida, Mr. Obama is up 50 to 44 percent. Among those who have yet to cast their vote, the two candidates are even in these states. Just a small percentage of voters in Virginia have already voted.
There are few voters left in these swing states who haven't made up their minds. Now, at least 95 percent of likely voters - including both Obama and Romney voters - have decided who they will support.
Most supporters from both camps say they strongly favor their candidate, though Mr. Obama's are slightly more likely to say they strongly favor him. But Romney has been improving on this measure - especially in Florida, from 57 percent a month ago to 74 percent today - nearly even with the president.
As they have throughout the fall, in all three states Republicans remain more enthusiastic about voting this year than Democrats. Florida Republicans in particular have become far more enthusiastic than Democrats over the past month. There is now a 16-point enthusiasm gap between Republicans and Democrats in Florida, 63 percent to 47 percent, up from four points a month ago (52 to 48 percent).
The Race in Florida
President Obama continues to enjoy a double-digit lead among women, 53 to 43 percent, but that lead has been almost cut in half since last month. Romney has increased his advantage with men from three points last month to nine points now, 52 to 43 percent.
The president has the support of younger voters in this poll, 55 to 41 percent, while Romney leads with seniors, 53 to 42 percent. A month ago, the President had an edge with seniors.
Romney has expanded his lead with white voters and now leads the president by 22 points among this group, 59 to 37 percent. Four years ago, Mr. Obama received 42 percent of the white vote in Florida. In this poll, he is getting 37 percent.
The Race in Ohio
The race in Ohio remains largely unchanged from a week ago, with the president maintaining a significant lead with women (56 to 39 percent), while Romney is ahead by six points among men, 50 to 44 percent.
Seniors are backing Romney by 9 points, 52 to 43 percent, while Mr. Obama leads among younger voters, particularly those under 35, 58 to 36 percent. Romney leads among independents (49 to 43 percent) and whites (50 to 45 percent).
The Race in Virginia
In Virginia, the gender gap has narrowed slightly but it is still significant: President Obama holds a 10-point lead among women, 53 to 43 percent, while Romney holds a 9-point lead among men, 52 to 43 percent.
Virginia voters under 35 continue to favor the president, 54 to 41 percent, while Romney has made gains among voters between 35 and 64 - cutting down an eight-point Obama lead to three points among this age group, 50 to 47 percent. Virginia voters 65 and older support Romney by 13 points, 55 to 42 percent.
Among independents in Virginia, Romney has surged from a two-point deficit two weeks ago to a 21-point lead today, 57 to 36 percent. He has also increased his lead slightly among voters in military households.
Romney maintains a strong 22-point lead among white voters, 59 to 37 percent, while 93 percent of black voters are supporting Mr. Obama.
The Issues
The economy remains the most important issue to voters in all three states, and voters in Florida and Ohio are closely divided as to which candidate would do a better job handling it. In Virginia, where the candidates were neck-and-neck two weeks ago, Mitt Romney now has a four-point lead, 50 to 46 percent.
Voters in all three states are more optimistic now about both the national and state economies than they were in the summer. Four in 10 voters in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia now think the national economy is getting better. Back in August, just a quarter thought so.
A similar trend can be seen when these voters assess their own state's economy, particularly in Ohio. Back in August just 33 percent said that the economy in Ohio was getting better; now that has risen to 52 percent.
Voters who think the economy is improving in their state do give credit to the Obama administration. 7 in 10 think his administration deserves at least some of the credit, including at least four in 10 who say it deserves a lot of the credit.
At the same time, among those who think their state economy is getting worse, majorities think the Obama administration deserves at least some of the blame.
On other specific issues, President Obama has the advantage. More voters in all three states see him as better able to handle health care, Medicare, education and social issues like abortion and same-sex marriage, foreign policy and terrorism.
In all three states, voters also pick President Obama to do a better job helping the middle class. But when it comes to who would do a better job working with members of both parties, Florida and Virginia voters pick Mitt Romney. In Ohio, voters are divided
Views of the Candidates
As he has throughout the campaign, Barack Obama wins on empathy. Six in 10 voters in all three states think Mr. Obama cares about their needs and problems. Voters in Florida and Virginia are divided over whether Mitt Romney does, and most voters (52 percent) in Ohio think he does not.
On the specific issue of understanding the needs and problems of women in the workforce, about two in three voters in each state say Barack Obama understands, while about half of voters say Mitt Romney does not.
Barack Obama leads on another measure as well: honesty. Most voters in all three states think Barack Obama is honest and trustworthy, while voters are less sure of Mitt Romney.
But Mitt Romney is ahead on leadership. Although most voters think both candidates have strong qualities of leadership, more think so of Mitt Romney.
Neither candidate, however, is seen as having clearly explained their specific plans for the next four years. Most voters in all three states don't think either candidate has done so, though President Obama does slightly better than Mitt Romney.
Overall, more voters continue to view Barack Obama favorably than view him unfavorably. Views of Mitt Romney are mixed, though they have improved over the past month in Florida, from 41 percent favorable to 48 percent.
Voters are divided in these states over the President's job performance. About as many approve as disapprove of the job he's doing as president.
The 2012 Senate Races
The Democratic candidates for U.S. Senate in Florida (Sen. Bill Nelson) and Ohio (Sen. Sherrod Brown) retain their leads over their challengers (Nelson leads 52 to 39 percent over Rep. Connie Mack; Brown leads 51 to 42 over state treasurer Josh Mandel). The race is closest in Virginia where Democrat Tim Kaine has a slim four-point lead (50 to 46 percent) over Republican George Allen.
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Don't forget Ohio, Virginia, and Florida too!
Obama is ahead big in all three so vote third party to your hearts content!!
Remember, it's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes.
And now we have the wholesale purchase of elections by corporations. Hmmm -- wonder if corporations have to present voter IDs when they make contributions to campaigns and strongly "persuade" their employees to vote the "right" way or risk losing their jobs if the wrong person wins the race.
As long as you also advocate for taking over the process of voting by non-partisan boards of election and replacing recordless machines now being counted by contract ONLY by companies that use software that, frankly, any decent programmer could hack in 10 minutes -- taking the power out of the hands of partisan hacks on either side AND agree that the needed voter ids have to be provided FREE OF CHARGE, rather than charged for, thus making them a new type of poll tax -- sure.
And if Obama wins the electoral count but not the popular, will you be calling for electors to abandon their commitment to vote for Obama? Vote for Obama to prevent a repetition of 2000.
That makes no sense. If he wins the electoral vote then he wins the Presidency. That point it is done and over with.
Congress needs to approve about 20 billion dollars more in a few months for FEMA to deal with Sandy. Do you think repugs will bother to cooperate with a President who lost the popular vote?
Do you care?
Obama had already declared a State of Emergency a couple of days ago. By declaring a State of Emergency this allowed FEMA to use money/funds to help with the devastation. So basically, the money was set into motion to help with all that is happening in the wake of Hurricane Sandy.
At this point 20 billion dollars is a ball park estimate. Half of that money will come from insurance companies that have to pay the damages on insured businesses, homeowners and other property that is covered by those who have insurance with their respective companies.
FEMA has $7.8 billion right now that is at their disposal and will be used for Hurricane Sandy relief. The Budget Control Act of 2011 made it possible for Congress to tap in to an additional $5.4 billion if necessary.
(Here is the source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/01/how-congress-already-helped-hurricane-sandy-victims.html
This catastrophe alone will cost 60 BILLION - NOT 20.
http://business.time.com/2012/10/31/hurricane-sandy-estimated-to-cost-60-billion/
Twenty billion was last week's estimate. It was obviously wrong.
Of course I care about people.
Is there a follow up question?
Damage beyond that is enormous.
Insurance payment is NOT counted in what FEMA uses. Insurance is owned by private individuals.
Are you ANYWHERE near the disaster??? I am, the area that I used to live was evacuated and flooded. Many of my friends are living out of hotels. I frankly think that any person, on ANY of these disasters who starts talking about dollars and not people is unAmerican. Sorry, just my personal take.
I wouldn't say it is unAmerican to discuss the financial cost. In order to help the victims, get them back on their feet and begin the rebuilding process it is fair to talk about the financial cost. It is a reality.
Remember, when we vote for Obama we're voting AGAINST romney.
When you vote 3rd party, you're voting AGAINST Obama.
You're not voting "for" anything.
Romney wants to profitize FEMA. REAL LIVING HUMAN BEINGS will suffer and DIE if he gets elected.
Vote for the tooth fairie all you want, but if you ever grow up, you'll realize that being an adult often involves making decisions EVEN WHEN THE OPTIONS AREN'T BLACK AND WHITE.
Accusing me of voting against the victims is a cheap shot.
Accusing you of voting against the victims is an honest discussion of what it means to not care whether or not Obama gets re-elected.
Are you going to tell me you 3rd partiers haven't been saying all along that we may need to destroy this country first to fix it?
That would be a dishonest shot.
To make it clear, and I know I have said it before, I am a registered Democrat. I just won't vote for Obama but would rather go for a third party candidate.
Now, I can't speak about others and I am not a spokesperson for other people who are going to vote for a third party but you can't make a blanket statement about me like, "Are you going to tell me you 3rd partiers haven't been saying all along that we may need to destroy this country first to fix it?"
Get this straight, I have never said the country needs to be destroyed nor do I subscribe to that narrow way of thinking. Try and find a quote where I have said such a thing. I haven't said it here or anywhere else. Don't lump me with others who may have said such a thing.
I want this country to get better and want everyone to benefit in the process. We can make it better with what we have, with the country we have, and under the system that may be flawed but it can be turned around. I have proposed solutions and have contributed to an intelligent conversation and dialogue in this forum. I expect the same from others as well. Blanket statements really does not do you or me any justice.
Do you REALLY think that this isn't an us versus them situation? Do you REALLY think when I'm told to my face at a meeting of a bi-partisan city commission on which I serve that as far as (a certain GOP member) is concerned it doesn't matter if cheating is used as long as the Republican wins that this is not us versus them? Do you REALLY think that having religious right ministers RIGHT NOW telling people that they will burn in hell (Huckabee for example) if they vote Democratic and at least one Roman bishop (Peoria IL) sending a letter to all parishes which the priests MUST read under his ecclesiastical authority which OPENLY orders all practicing Catholics to vote Republican or disobey the church that they don't have an us versus them mentality?
REALLY?
Buddy, I used to be in the religious right, AoG and some other smaller Pentecostals -- ordained and left as a young man in the 1980s, never looked back) you do not understand at all if you think this is anything other than us versus them. Further I don't think that the corpratists would maintain power if the Right actually outright won control totally at any time, I think they would end up where the Persian merchants did after the Ayotollah took power -- dead.
Go ahead, call me paranoid. Sadly I may be, but I am also sure based on more experience than anyone that will quibble with me that I'm right, paranoid or not.
Your logic is the same as a football team that quits in the fourth quarter because the refs not working with them and because the score is tied. "If it ain't a blowout, it ain't worth fightin' fer".
Let me explain. You think that Obama seriously had the option to enact the entire liberal agenda. Do you realize how long it's taken conservatives to get this far? DECADES and GENERATIONS. Slowly but surely, they're chipping away at the New Deal, the Great Society, and the Voting Rights Act. They can't achieve it all in one Presidential administration. It takes decades.
If they had their way, they would have elected David Duke in the '80s, Gingrich in the '90s, and Dracula in 2000. They deal strategically. You don't. You pout when things don't go the way you REALLY REALLY REALLY believe they "could if only everyone would listen". The problem is that they're not listening. I'm not refering to Obama. I'm refering to the American electorate.
CONT.
BEFORE you convince President Obama to do something more liberal than he ever has, FIRST you have to CONVINCE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
You haven't bothered, because that would take OWS times 10.
It's HARD work. It's a lot easier to sit back, assume the President will do it all for you, and then whine about it when he can't.
Maybe Jill Stein will prove magical and enact all of your wildest dreams.
Then again, 98% of the electorate has never even heard of her and she didn't bother to challenge the President DIRECTLY when it mattered - IN THE PRIMARIES.
She and all the 3rd party candidates are like fat guys sitting on the sidelines saying, "yeah but I could have kick Mike Tyson's ass if I had the chance." Um... No you couldn't. Jill Stein couldn't kick the repug Congress and Blue Dog Democrats asses either, if she had the chance. But of course, she doesn't really want the chance. If she did, she would have taken the President head-on in the primaries. It's much easier to be a cult figure than to be the real deal however.
What's the 3rd option?
The fact is that you're voting AGAINST OBAMA, AND NOT against romney.
You're not voting "for" anything, because your candidate can't win. Sorry to break it to you.
This is where reality hits home. Our votes have consequences. Allowing Obama to lose this election will have consequences that will kill thousands or millions of people.
Once again, do you care?
However, I do believe that the majority of people, regardless of party affiliation and their belief system want what is best for others and care about others. Maybe we all have a different opinion and some of those opinions are different from yours but that does not mean they have less heart and compassion. Tolerate others and this is not some kind of war. We are all in this together.
It's just that it seems a little bit disengenuous for you to now suddenly be trying to convince us that "we're all in this together", when you're trying to convince us to vote against Obama for working with republicans?
Think you're sending a message? Wasted votes.
- I don't approve of candidates who are for the NDAA
-I don't approve of candidates who think Indefinite Detention is constitutional
- I don't approve of candidates who believe in bailouts of big banks
-I don't approve of candidates who use drones to kill
- I don't approve of candidates who think a secret kill list is right
I wouldn't call this wasting a vote.
You make it seem like I sit here with a master plan, a conspiracy to turn the system upside down. I have never talked about destroying anything, having less compassion for others or have some agenda.
Read my list of the things I don't approve again. Your answers are there. Nothing hidden, no callous calculations.
Now go ahead and read the NDAA 2013 and read more on how war with Iran is likely the way things are going under Obama. Tell me who has callous calculations then. It ain't me.
Once again, Obama has had 4 years to instigate the war with Iran that repugs have been BEGGING HIM INTO. He hasn't done it and there's absolutely no reason to believe he will, unless you think he's waiting until his 2nd term to do things he wouldn't be brave enough to try in his 1st. You CAN'T make that argument however, because it's MY argument regarding the fact that the finance and fossil fuel industries are scared shitless of him in this election.
He shouldn't have signed the repug written NDAA. Then again, any 3rd party candidate on your plate would be totally caught like a deer in the headlights against the onslaught of conservative media resulting from a total refusal to comply with funding for the military. These guys play hardball, and you can't play in their league by being so caught up in your idealism that you're unwilling to cut a deal.
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I want someone capable of doing whatever it takes to move this country inch-by-inch to the left. That all we can possibly hope for in this political environment. You're naïvely believing that we can move in giant leaps against all the prevailing forces. The last President who tried that had his brains splattered all over Dallas.
This is the real world and it's a HUGE pain in the ass. Still, the only other alternative is curling up in the corner and crying yourself to sleep in a fetal position. Nixon's "southern strategy" has been slowly chipping away since 1966 when he first came up with the idea. It's a big picture strategy covering decades, that has informed repug politics ever since. Gingrich's "contract on America" couldn't have worked in 1966. If Nixon had tried anything that bold, the entire idea would have been discredited immediately. Incrementalism is stupid when it's unnecessary. For us to enact a liberal agenda, it becomes absolutely necessary. Obama understands that. The 3rd party left doesn't.
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What I'm refering to as a callous calculation among so called "progressive" 3rd partiers applies to two things:
1. The idea that we'll vote against Obama to punish the Democratic Party. The logic in this is that the Dems will lose this election, the repugs will win, this country will be destroyed, and the Dems will BEG us to join them and will be at our mercy.
2. The fact that many of these so called "progressives" are really conservatives disguising themselves and on the GOP payroll. How can we tell the difference? Their goals are EXACTLY THE SAME!
Twit wants to get rid of FEMA.
Yes, the New York area needs food, which is why the roads and trains must be cleared, provisions brought in, and people able to work again. The Republicans in the Federal government would wait until the "private sector" got back on its feet. Local Republicans are not as bad, but they have more limited resources.
As to Benghazi: Republican cutbacks to Consulates led to that, and also a general lack of Republican will to help out in Libya, especially recorded statements that Romney had made earlier. No talking point at all here.
As for Benghazi, you talk as though Obama personally instigated the attack on the consulate. North Africa and the Middle East are unpredictable and very volatile parts of the world. Things happen. It was the 9/11 anniversary in every corner of the world, not just in Libya. It was not possible to reinforce every diplomatic post in every country. Since the Republicans cut the budget for embassy security, don't blame Obama for what happened there, or for the confusing information that came out of North Africa when it was the middle of the night in the United States and the rest of us were asleep.
If you want to roast Obama alive, find a better reason. Drone attacks for one. The roll back of civil liberties for another. Or support for fracking and nuclear power. But don't expect Romney to be less of a hawk, a fervent civil libertarian, and a friend to local communities affected by fracking and mountain top removal.
Wonder where Romney was during Katrina? Probably not sitting on the roof of a flooded house.
I am more worried about food supplies and people getting back to work; NOLA after Katrina had the worst problem when people were stranded and starving. Luckily, there aren't too many dead considering the severity of the storm, but the aftermath is just beginning. And there is one big difference between Katrina and Sandy:
Obama started Federal aid immediately and was right there, even in the most important campaign week. Compare that to Katrina where the FEMA horse manager didn't send in aid for days, and by that time, there were people dying of thirst, and being shot. Right now, I am very impressed with the massive clean-up of the subways, and I hope that things get rolling again very soon.
Voting in disaster areas will be very difficult, especially for those who are now living with relatives and not near polling places, and especially in Virginia where they can only vote on election day.
Thank you for that Anti-American rant!
Go live in a dictatorship and leave freedom loving people alone!
Now you are right about Fast and Furious and the cover up from the Whitehouse.
Would that include the Freedom of Speech? The conservative definition of "freedom" always seems to be "freedom to do, say and think as we tell you to". Why is that?
You are ridiculous and bordering on that of a lunatic!
Look at any post that does not walk your left wing line.
Mostly no substantive replies, just "down thumbs"!
You can only sit around in your little circle jerks...with an emphasis on LITTLE!
I have not ever seen and conservative reply attempting to cut off your freedoms!
Calling someone "anti-American" for saying something you don't like is not what I'd call "substance".
Perhaps if you learn to read you will see I NEVER called the writer anti-American I said that the rant was anti!
Words have meanings!
And if you also think that the Ambassador deserved to die (" killing arm dealer masking as a diplomat was more justice ")then you are on the side of terrorists, IMO.
Our laws are written to preserve the privileges of corporate interests and the rich, not to preserve the rights of citizens.
It's being Anti-American to toss aside the very freedoms the Constitution was supposed to guarantee. "Freedom-loving " has become just a platitude thrown about by people who have no concept of what real freedom is, but are content to wrap themselves in the flag regardless of the horrors perpetrated in their name.
Americans are not freedom-loving anymore when they act like sheep.
Or elect Republicans and bring the dictatorship here.
If you believe the "private sector" should profitize national disasters and make a pretty penny cornering people who have no option left, then try to elect Upper-Class Twit.
You're also right about another thing. FEMA DOES please the masses. That's called "DEMOCRACY". The unwashed masses get their way, and people like you whine about it.
If you believe the "private sector" should profitize national disasters and make a pretty penny cornering people who have no option left, then try to elect Upper-Class Twit.
And which "private sector" entities will provide satellite coverage to track storms, etc.?
Obama is simply doing his job as president, and, I must say, a far better job than Bush did with Katrina. It's laughable (and embarrassing) for you to claim that Christie is being "conned" by Obama. That's a stretch that even your most ardent conservative colleagues would consider ludicrous. Christie, by all estimations, is far too smart to be conned by Obama or anyone else for that matter. He'd be the first to take offense at such a comment.
As for FEMA's past effectiveness, or lack thereof, maybe you should go back to how Bush treated it and the droves of experienced professionals who left as a result? We all know what a "heckuva job" Brownie, an Arabian horse breeder, did in New Orleans, don't we?
Before you go off on the FEMA we have today, headed up by Craig Fugate, a Republican (tapped by Obama in 2009), maybe you should reserve judgement and then ask those along the coast how effective FEMA was in making them whole?
The voice of a spoon-fed parrot.
HEY! I have parrots, they're far smarter than our resident Republitards, and two of them actually have rational conversations with us. They both have well over a thousand words they understand, and that's more than most Republicans. 8^)
Typical Republican puke inducing stupidity. True, under Bush it was run by a twit with no experience, but Under Clinton and Obama it was run by pros and more than met expectations. Republicans appoint the unfit because they're so moronic that they think the government shouldn't work.
FEMA wasn't exactly a rapid response dynamo under the Bush regime, regarding Hurricane Katrina. The "bluebloods" sure made out O.K. while the "commoners" weren't exactly partying.
So what is the actual hidden agenda? Russia. Evil because they might have oil? Yep, evil because they are beginning to stop the arctic warming by managing Siberian land, and the Repubs. want the arctic ice-free and ruined so they can make more money on arctic oil and shipping. I wave the American flag like everybody else, but I really don't want to go to war with the whole world over the arctic. Look at maps of arctic ice right now: notice that it is re-forming next to Siberia this winter: the ice actually started forming from the land this time.
That's why Darth Cheney stated in a recent interview about Mittsy: "THAT'S the kinda man I want in the White House."
BLEEECCCH!!!
from spenel334
As to the count afterwards: in 2004, small polling places were as screwed up as large ones, and in some rural places there were more votes for Bush than registered voters, and there were Democrats in those districts who knew they had not voted for Bush.
Every vote counts; please vote early with a paper ballot.
We have our resources and have been preparing for this for some time now. don't lose heart; just GET OUT THE VOTE!!! And tell your friends to do so as well. I recommend that you write down all of your ballot selections BEFORE AND AFTER you vote, to be on the safe side.
If people have time to volunteer, handing out these Democrat cards outside of the Board of Elections for early voters is needed, and also at polling places on election day.
Give me a break...
The really sad part of the situation is the people who are making up their minds to vote for this clown show. Especially women, who would stand to lose the most under RoMONEY/ryan et al.
Married women: If your husband supports you, and you are on his insurance, you will still grow old someday. Then, if Romney wins, you will be on vouchers instead of Medicare, and if you are a widow by that time, you will run out of coverage for medical conditions very fast. Nursing care costs $5000 or more a month. Medical care can cost more than that per treatment; double or triple that if you need surgery. Essentially, Romney-Ryan is worse than a death panel, the ticket is a massive death camp for the elderly.
Mr. Romney represents the interests of the 1% and especually the intersts of the .001%. Everyone else is either misled or masochistic.
Now, THAT's shocking!
Joe Hill, as he was about to be executed in (where else?) Utah, told his comrades: "Don't mourn, organize!"
So, please, "Independentgal " and "readerz"... don't be shocked, organize as well.
Romney wants to cut Social Security, AND Medicare ... how these seniors think?? Was not 2007 - 2008 clear enough what privatization/m edicare will do?
No matter who wins, after this election, please, we need a real campaign to educate people about what we used to call the "Woodstock Nation," what it might mean to live in harmony. Not only do we need to help the poor, but we need to tell the Middle Class what America is about. We need to be very active in textbook writing and buying for communities. We need to be the other side of the equation, putting our minds to the development of clean energy, and finding funds, public and private, to make it work. People were just starting to think about these things when Pres. Obama first took office in 2009; it was almost too late then, but it really is never too late. The "occupy" movement is important, but how about forming our own banks? How about rewriting the Constitution, or some of it, such as getting rid of the Electoral College, and then pushing through the Constitutional Amendment? Why isn't America mobilized? New York City right now has been shoved off its complacency, and I hope they are helped, but I also hope this is a wake-up to action.
I'm a senior, but not senile. It appears that 53% of us are.
It's great that Obama is leading in Ohio, but that removes all doubt that the Republicans or the voting machine owners will mess with the results. Whether there will be a mysterious change in the results overnight we don't know, but it will happen somehow. And how that can be prevented or dealt with after the fact is the million dollar question. Obama's winning in Ohio, doesn't mean Obama will win in Ohio, since hacking can be carried out from parts unknown. The fact that the machines were tampered with in 2004, was only ascertained later, though I'm sure suspicions were high the day after the voting took place. Apparently the perpetrators believe they can tamper with results to the tune of 10%; a win for Obama greater than that would negate the effect, but that's not likely to happen this year.
Rove will fail miserably; even the slipperiest fish still get caught. WE LEARNED from 2004, and we refuse to let that happen again!
And almost half of the electorate want to turn it over to a beginner under the cointrol of the Cheney crowd? Idiotic.
Go Obama/Biden and go DEMS in gaining seats in congress too. Make sure you and all you know vote in 2012.
OBAMA/BIDEN -- DEMS ALL THE WAY 2012
The alternative is a snake in the grass.
The flaw in 2004 was in the Windows OS, which allows for hacking of that kind. The best defense is the paper ballot, which cannot be hacked.
What gets me is that after listening to Romney make promises to do any number of 'opposites' to each promise--- who can believe him.., especially with a Social Security-Medica re Budget Gutting Fanatic like Ryan as his running mate just a heartbeat away from having at it..?
Who are these people who are voting for more and more Corporate control over EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE.., especially after witnessing the serious declines on all fronts in America ( Wealthy Class aside of course) after 30 years of exchanging what Corporate conservatives labeled as so-called 'Big' Government for the current Government by 'Big' Corporate Lobby we are all stuck with now...?
Sure anyone wants him to be Commannder in Chief? He is already itching to take our kids to war. Want him near the "red button"? Better think hard before choosing Romneyhood and his merry band of Liars, Cheaters, and Thieves.
What they got was a president who took the entire defense department bureaucracy of a previously discredited administration into his administration inclusive of the Generals, Secretary of Defense and all the rest ( this has never happened before); then gave us more phony war. While president Obama was receiving the “Nobel Peace prize” he respiratory simultaneously and successfully defended the architect of torture in a San Francisco federal court. In addition, he sidetracked attempts of the ACLU to remove the illegal overseas prisons and never gave even a feeble attempt to close the infamous Guantanamo prison. He has never tried to return our revered habeas corpus or remove the immoral, illegal, Patriot Act. As this is written he has placed ill advised military intimidation and economic sanctions over innocent Iranian people and continues to fund the illegal Zionist settlers three generations removed from WWII, (many from New York) in the Middle East. Recently Obama signed a law (National Defense Authorization Act) making the “Patriot Act” permanent and the USA is now officially a military/police state with the habeas corpus long gone.
Dickmail, you’ve not even listed all this doctor’s faults, yet you list not one of his achievements. Not least: to have stood his ground against the endless tide of toxic sewage directed against him.
I’m not blind to his faults. A pragmatist, over-dependent on his intellect, his sponsors and the alliances they commended to him. Saying the right thing but failing to ring true because too much in his head. Riding to power on a wave of popular support, yet failing to keep surfing on it.
He let the people return to couch and TV, while he withdrew amidst a coterie of elite advisers – including some you name. This might have worked in less extreme times and against less extreme foes – not so much the enemy without, but the enemy within. He thought he could negotiate with the extremists who’ve hijacked GOP, as Chamberlain and Daladier thought they could negotiate with Hitler.
People voted for a hammer but chose an anvil.
Having said this, it’s essential that we keep Obama in power. The alternative is unthinkable – GROSS KARL’S 1000 YEAR REICH. Once in power, we must pressure him relentlessly.
IN THE ELECTION OF 1936, A CONSTITUENT APPROACHED FDR WITH A LIST OF THINGS SHE WANTED HIM TO DO IF REELECTED. "MA'AM," HE SAID, "I'D LIKE TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT IF I’M REELECTED, YOU MUST MAKE ME."
And FDR saying "you must make me" is one of the most powerful and important statements. Progressives cannot sit silent any more, but we also cannot just wait for the Federal government either; we can't wait for them to do everything. The right-wing has acted as though Pres. Obama is far to the left, when we all know he is centrist, but allowing the far-right-wing in, which wants to attack Iran, and possibly also start a war with Russia over arctic oil, is unthinkable.
The actual position is that if it helps the Mormon church it's just fine to lie, cheat and steal. The ascendency of Mormon is the only thing that counts. Not unexpected coming from a cult started by a convicted con man. Just another kind of Scientology.
That said, I have some Mormon friends whom I value highly, but they are decent people, not church elders, who are not.
The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwnwEPfLEIE
THERE'S A REAL RISK OF MASSIVE ELECTORAL FRAUD AND A 5% MARGIN WON'T BE ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THAT.
GET OUT THERE AND VOTE, TO DEFEND DEMOCRACY. AND REMEMBER:
IN SWING STATES, A VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR THE 0.001% AND THE END OF DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT!
For Mitt Romney, it’s one scary Halloween. The Presidential candidate has just learned that tomorrow afternoon (November 1) he will be charged by the United Automobile Workers (UAW) and other public interest groups with violating the federal ethics in government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bailout.
At a press conference in Toledo, Bob King, President of the United Automobile Workers, will announce that his union and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) have filed a formal complaint with the US Office of Government Ethics in Washington stating that Gov. Romney improperly hid a profit of $15.3 million to $115.0 million in Ann Romney's so-called "blind" trust.
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Know why? There are a MULTITUDE of things in there that could spell real trouble AND Romneybot knows the fix is in. The fix is in pass that around..Rommney bot's rancid kid owns the company that provides the voting machines to Ohio and other swing states! This will be an ILLEGAL election but another stolen election because it's e-voting no one will be able to have a paper trail and they will simply push a button. There needs to be a whisleblower... will there be? NO of course not and when he is untouchable after he wins forget about ever knowing!
Everything you stated is absolutely true. There is one fact you must take into consideration. The Supreme Court. There is no doubt that if Myth Romoney get elected, it will be game over.
This is the only reason I am voting for Obama. It is the only chance to save the Court for the people. If we get one or two more right wing wing-nuts, we will long for the day of just fascism.
If Obama stacks the courts with two more Libs, there is a chance to toss out all the shit bag draconian laws. Maybe that is what he wants anyway.
Lets say he stayed just enough to the right to get re-elected knowing if he hadn't, the neocon-men would have beaten weakness into the minds of the masses.
You could count on that happening and it would have been successful. As a people we don't like the dark, snakes, and Boogie men under our beds.
Since Obama doesn't have to run again it could provide a certain amount of free wheeling for him. I know this is probably nothing more than optimistic speculation on my part.
This, however, is not speculation. If the Myth man is elected, we get two to the right. As they say in the Bronx, "Forget about it."
It is all about the Supreme Court! I urge all the disappointed to keep this in mind when stepping into the voting booth.
Activism begins there and finishes in the streets.
And at the ready to comment first when a page like this springs up on RSN.
Who is willing to bet with me that we don't hear anymore of them after the elections?
The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwnwEPfLEIESTRONG.
Vote only Democrat.
Not only is the vote for the Greens a vote for an agenda that is what we, THE PEOPLE need and not the 1%, but it is a protest vote for the WAR PARTIES’ policies. The bigger that vote, the better.
Don't be shocked. When you vote 3rd party, you're just voting against Obama.
After Hurricane Sandy are you still going to tell me it doesn't make a difference which of them gets in office? Try telling that to one of the homeless, and tell them you wouldn't mind romney profitizing FEMA.
Get back to us when you do.
Unfortunately, this is a moral Catch 22 situation.
Do you really believe that voting Green in a swing state (or not voting at all) will prevent the killing of thousands of innocent people? In reality, whatever you may think of Obama and the methods he uses for protecting Americans, the option you propose signifies support for the main War Party. Thus, it too is tantamount to complicity in killing.
My motivation differs little from yours and my support for green politics goes back a long way. But don't we need a residually democratic state to advance a humane agenda? Try reading Juan Cole's article on capitalist dictatorship and you'll see what's at risk.
The great danger today is a Romney presidency and the Republican Party, become a Trojan horse for pure oligarchy, in control of Congress and appointing new justices to the Supreme Court. A one-party State under men committed to militarism, the destruction of the environment and passing the bill for unbridled corporate greed to the country's and the world's poor - and above all to our children and the unborn.
Remember: "FOR GREED, ALL NATURE IS TOO SMALL." Seneca
Secretary of State Husted (in charge of Board of Elections) just won an appeal. Voters who are misdirected to the wrong polling place (or wrong line within the polling place) will NOT have their votes counted after all.
On top of that, polling places have been consolidated and changed, and are modeled after the off-year election which had very light turnout. By itself, this will prevent people from voting.
The best way to overcome all this is early voting.
VOTE ANYWAY.
The only poll that matters is the ELECTION.
repugs WILL steal as much of the vote as they can. Of course they did it in 2008 too. We still win if so many of us vote that we clog their efforts.
Sorry for sounding abrassive.
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