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Rushe reports: "Public records show that on the same day as the meeting, Ryan sold stock in troubled banks including Wachovia and Citigroup and bought shares in Goldman Sachs."

Is Paul Ryan guilty of insider trading? (photo: Getty Images)
Is Paul Ryan guilty of insider trading? (photo: Getty Images)


Paul Ryan Sold Shares on Same Day As Private Briefing of Banking Crisis

By Dominic Rushe, Guardian UK

15 August 12

 

Vice-presidential candidate denies he profited from a 2008 meeting with Fed chairman in which officials outlined fears for financial crisis.

aul Ryan, Mitt Romney's vice-presidential running mate, sold stock in US banks on the same day he attended a confidential meeting where top level officials disclosed the sector was heading for a deep crisis.

The congressman on Monday denied profiting from information gleaned from the meeting on 18 September 2008 when Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke, then treasury secretary Hank Paulson and others outlined their fears for the banking sector. His office said he had no control over the trades.

Public records show that on the same day as the meeting, Ryan sold stock in troubled banks including Wachovia and Citigroup and bought shares in Goldman Sachs, Paulson's old employer and a bank that had been disclosed to be stronger than many of its rivals. The sale was not illegal at the time.

Not long after the meeting, Wachovia's already troubled share price went into free fall. It plunged 39% on the afternoon of 26 September alone as investors worried the bank would collapse. It was eventually taken over by Wells Fargo for $15bn, a fraction of its former value.

Citigroup's share price fell soon after the meeting. In October 2008 Citigroup was among the largest beneficiary of the troubled asset relief program (Tarp), the taxpayer-funded bailout of the banking sector.

Ryan was a supporter of the Tarp bailout - a position that has put him at odds with the right wing of his party despite his otherwise conservative credentials. Goldman Sachs and Wells Fargo are now among his largest financial supporters, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

The trades were highlighted at the weekend by the Richmonder, a left-leaning political blog in Virginia.

After the story was picked up by the media on Monday, the Romney campaign moved to deny it. Talking Points Memo quoted Larry Gaffney, an independent accountant for the partnership that handled the trades questioned by commentators, said the shares were not controlled by Ryan.

"Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis," said Gaffney, in a statement to TPM that was provided by the Romney campaign. "In addition, this index was held at the time within a partnership in which Rep. Ryan had and continues to have no trading authority."

Until this year members of Congress were allowed to trade on price-sensitive information gathered at Washington meetings. Nor is Ryan alone in having done so. CBS's 60 Minutes criticised Democrat Nancy Pelosi for buying into Visa's initial public offering as the House discussed credit card legislation.

After the CBS documentary, pressure mounted for change. In April, Barack Obama signed legislation that bars members of Congress and other federal workers from profiting from non-public information learned on the job. As well as banning insider trading the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (Stock) Act requires members of Congress to post details of transactions exceeding $1,000.

In April the Office of Congressional Ethics cleared Spencer Bachus, Republican chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, of allegations of insider dealing. Critics had charged he had taken advantage of insider information to trade shares on numerous occasions.

Bachus was present at the meeting that Ryan attended with Bernanke and Paulson. The next day he traded "short" options, betting on a decline in share prices in the financial services sector.

Attendees at the meeting have said Bernanke and Paulson's warnings were met with stunned silence. "When you listened to him describe it you gulped," Senator Charles Schumer told the New York Times.


 

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+148 # RMDC 2012-08-15 15:28
What would anyone expect. It will be interesting to see Ryan's financial disclosure records. He's been in politics for all his life. Never had another job. Very likely he is a millionaire. He did not become a millionaire on his congressional salary.

I've read that Ryan lives in the mansion that used to belong to the Parker pen company owner. Parker is out of business. Corrupt politicians like Ryan are very much in business -- looting the public wealth for their own benefit and that of their billionaire patrons.
 
 
+31 # JSRaleigh 2012-08-16 06:39
Quoting RMDC:
What would anyone expect. It will be interesting to see Ryan's financial disclosure records. He's been in politics for all his life. Never had another job. Very likely he is a millionaire. He did not become a millionaire on his congressional salary.

I've read that Ryan lives in the mansion that used to belong to the Parker pen company owner. Parker is out of business. Corrupt politicians like Ryan are very much in business -- looting the public wealth for their own benefit and that of their billionaire patrons.


It *WILL* be interesting to see Ryan's financial disclosure ... IF he makes one.
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 06:42
He has to file a disclosure annually. It is not optional. There are even deadlines. Extensions must be requested and approved.
 
 
+4 # AndreM5 2012-08-18 13:33
He definitely is a multi-millionai re, somehow accumulating several $M while in Congress. His wife was a lobbyist for a while and inherited some $$ as did Ayn Ryan. Like several others in Congress he exploited the insider-trading rules that exempt members of the House.
 
 
+129 # Kayjay 2012-08-15 18:07
With Rand.....er, Ryan, we get more of the same political corruption. Ryan scored several million, when his wife received an undisclosed pile from a trust fund. That new pile of cash has allowed Ryan to hobnob in the stock market.....and listen well to insider tips. That cash allows him to frolic amongst his Koch brothers masters in secret meetings.... and maintain the status quo for some. That cash keeps growing too. He threw his support behind TARP money allocation. What better way to make banking friends, who then indiscreetly slide behind you and stuff cash in your pockets!! Want democracy???? Get cash out of politics.
 
 
+152 # df312 2012-08-15 19:18
It sounds like insider trading. The very thing that Martha Stewart went to prison for. Hmmmmm?
 
 
+51 # robniel 2012-08-16 06:50
Another "blind" trust? Like Romney's "blind" trust that just happens to invest in Romney's sons' companies? Who got the gift tax when Romney gave each son $100,000,000, Switzerland? Let's see some jail time.
 
 
+16 # Capn Canard 2012-08-16 07:38
I believe members of Congress are effectively exempt from prosecution for insider trading, or at least very few have ever been prosecuted. must look into it...
 
 
+5 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 06:45
Right, but Congress was not proscribed from using insider information until the "STOCK" Act was passed. Nice exemption. The goose and the gander weren't treated the same.
 
 
+89 # natalierosen 2012-08-15 19:21
Par for the course. I'm shocked -- NOT! So until 60 Minutes reported on it I suspect this was not illegal IF you were a member of the Congress. Sickening of course. Still, it does NOT look good that the JERK Ryan did that. Vetting process anyone? Ridiculous!
 
 
+83 # FactsFirst 2012-08-15 19:57
So, if Martha Stewart was a member of Congress, she would not have gone to prison? Legalized criminal behavior, Mr. Ryan. Have you no shame?
 
 
+12 # tabonsell 2012-08-16 14:38
Martha Stewart went to prison for lying about her investments; not for insider trading.

If we sent Ryan and Romney and others to the pokey for their lying, we would have a nation without government, business, religion, sports, etc. etc.
 
 
+34 # dyannne 2012-08-15 20:05
People like Ryan and Pelosi see this kind of thing as smart on their part. They are very privileged people and they make all the laws and rules that we hoi paloi have to live by. At least Pelosi doesn't try to make it harder on us by championing the elimination of unemployment benefits, food stamps, birth control, and bigger and better tax cuts for the rich. That makes it even more galling!
 
 
+56 # PABLO DIABLO 2012-08-15 20:06
Check out his phone records for that day. HHHHMMMMMMMM.
 
 
-75 # FDRva 2012-08-15 20:27
Ryan is an ideologue and a fool.

But then there is that thing about living in glass houses.

Has anyone checked Michelle Obama's trading account?

The biggest single source of campaign funds for Pres. Obama's 2008 campaign was execs at Goldman Sachs.

And the crash of Goldman rival Lehman Bros--made Barry Obama president.
 
 
+40 # Ralph Averill 2012-08-16 00:00
"And the crash of Goldman rival Lehman Bros--made Barry Obama president."
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had more to do with Obama's election than the financial crisis, TARP, etc.
 
 
+20 # bmiluski 2012-08-16 06:33
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The biggest single source of campaign funds for Pres. Obama's 2008 campaign was execs at Goldman Sachs.

You can bet your neo-con vomit that Goldman Sachs hedged their bets by contributing to the McCain campaigne. And its President Obama.
 
 
-2 # FDRva 2012-08-18 21:24
McCain is actually irrelevant to the matter.

Goldman bankrolled Barry Obama to defeat Hillary. The wars and the impending crash made the Dems a sure thing. And Wall Street chose Obama over the pliable but independent-min ded Clinton.

And Obama continued the Bush/McCain war policy. Hope he does not throw me into the Guantanamo he pledged to close for saying so.

Sorry it doesn't conform to your preferred narrative.
 
 
+66 # karlarove 2012-08-15 20:28
Sounds like Ryan's index operates like a Superpac, he doens't control it:"Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis," said Gaffney, in a statement to TPM that was provided by the Romney campaign. "In addition, this index was held at the time within a partnership in which Rep. Ryan had and continues to have no trading authority." I wish someone could explain to me the "algorithm" that would cause those particular stock to be sold on the very same day as Ryan heard the dire details. Then to buy Goldman stock, that a very smart alogorithm! How did the algorithm know that Goldman was going to get $13 Billion from the U.S. Taxpayers?
 
 
+36 # feloneouscat 2012-08-16 05:44
It's MAGIC!

Oh, and insider trading.
 
 
+27 # ruttaro 2012-08-16 06:19
karlarove, you raise the questions that the media should be asking. A truly free press not owned by just few corporations would ask those questions. Principled investigative journalism would ask Gaffney and Ryan to answer those questions. However, the real world of journalism is controlled by just a few mega corporations, a cartel in reality, that decides what we need to know and what we should be kept in the dark on. Interesting that the Republicans always use competition in the market place as the saving grace for the consumer and loudly trumpet it as their rationale for undoing the Affordable Health Care Act but you never hear them call for breaking up cartels like those controlling the media and banking.
We are in very dangerous waters here and no leadership to get us out.
 
 
+18 # karlarove 2012-08-16 10:46
If you notice, Obama's team hasn't voiced those questions either. Not ONE person, or organization has gone to jail for the the outrageous takeover by the Banksters. And with the exception of Sen. Bernie Sanders, few in the House or Senate are seriously investigating the fraud and insider trading that has been going on. Why? Because they are being paid to represent the Elite, Occupy was right on with their movement and anger, what happened? That movement was taken down in the middle of the night by a coordinated effort all over the country. Until Americans wake up and realize that every single one of us has to do something, this is unfairness is going to only get much worse, not better. Look at Greece, that is the blueprint for the United States.
 
 
+9 # ruttaro 2012-08-16 18:09
Money has corrupted the Congress. The fact that you mention Sanders as the exception says it all. If our democracy was healthy than Sanders would be one of the many. It's all the proof we need on the extent of the rot. Obama's camp is as beholden to the cash as any other and it is too bad, because I think he is at heart a decent man captured by the monied lobbyists. So what to do?
You are right about Occupy, those brave patriots brought attention to what is fundamentally wrong with this once great nation. But the error of Occupy is that it did not and still does not challenge the structures of power in this country. Maybe that is asking too much of our heroes today but we, all of us who are troubled by this situation can take the lead and begin dismantling the power structures. And we do that by electing state officials who will vote for a constitutional amendment making public elections publicly funded.
Call me a romantic idealist but I still believe that when there are no leaders left out of the people leaders will emerge. And we need them now because so much needs to be done and as long as a plutocracy is in place the most vital issues for the people will not be addressed. This amendment is our best hope and the task is ours. Let's Occupy the voting booths and make the titans tremble!
 
 
+24 # bmiluski 2012-08-16 06:34
If these algorithms are so smart why do we need human traders?
 
 
+10 # Feral Dogz 2012-08-16 09:39
Quoting bmiluski:
If these algorithms are so smart why do we need human traders?


If these algorithms are so smart, why would there ever be a financial crisis and a need for a bailout?
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 06:50
Somebody has to receive and spend fees don't they?
 
 
+39 # DPM 2012-08-15 20:42
I'd be surprised if he wasn't involved in criminal activity. Just like most of the rest of them. Jerks!
 
 
+41 # jooberdoober 2012-08-15 20:45
He's a bum. Insider trading, anyone else would be in jail, yet he can freely profit. Not right at all.
 
 
+71 # michellewey 2012-08-15 20:57
I read that Ryan will only release 2 years of his tax returns, keeping in line with Romney. I think it's a mistake to let that fade from the public eye. Romney should continue to be hounded to release his returns. I know this is not the subject on discussion here, but it has fallen off the table since Ryan was announced as the VP running mate. It is relevant to the theme of abuse of power for personal financial gain by politicians now that we live in a corporate state.
 
 
+52 # Ralph Averill 2012-08-16 00:15
I think Romney won't show his IRS records because he paid no taxes. Harry Reid is right. Maybe Ryan's returns contain similar embarrassments. Whatever flak they take for secrecy is less than the firestorm that would result if it was known that they paid little or no taxes.
You're right! Keep the heat on!
 
 
+14 # Feral Dogz 2012-08-16 09:40
Feet to the fire!
 
 
+53 # Archie1954 2012-08-15 21:21
I believe Mr. ryan's actions in selling his shares upon receipt of inside information to be both unethical and immoral in the extreme. It would also be illegal except for some funny business with Congressional perks. What he did was sell his shares to unknowing buyers who purchased in good faith not realizing that he was getting rid of a pig in a poke.
 
 
+44 # KrazyFromPolitics 2012-08-15 21:40
New qualifications for vice president of US. Be a criminal. How things have changed. Thomas Eagleton had to resign his candidacy in '72 for having been treated for depression. I still can't understand why Americans aren't more pissed off about what is happening to our Constitutional Republic. Liars and criminals, totally lacking in empathy feel entitled to be our leaders?
 
 
+63 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-08-15 22:11
Ryan is one matter. I watched MSNBC tonight. Pure speculation but suppose Willard (Mitt) Romney was caught by the government not avoiding but evading (which is illegal) taxes generated on off shore accounts. The U.S. government sued certain overseas banks to force them to legally reveal names of which American citizens had cash and other assets in these certain banks and how much was being held in those bank accounts. The banks in question lost the suit, particularly a well known Swiss bank. Then, names were documented and account assets. Criminal charges could have been brought against these account holders. Rather than face felony charges, the U.S. government offered amnesty to those who then paid taxes and penalties due on those off shore assets. The speculation (and it is merely speculation)is that Romney paid the taxes and penalties for previous years rather than face a U.S. government-IRS felony charge. And if this is the case, Romney would be a "DEAD DUCK" as a presidential nominee much less winning the presdential election. Americans would most likely be enraged over what he did. Still, the wealthy can negotiate a settlement while the less lucky may go to jail under a tax evasion conviction.
 
 
+28 # bmiluski 2012-08-16 06:37
Aaah, where is Wiky Leaks when you need them.
 
 
+6 # KrazyFromPolitics 2012-08-16 17:15
Quoting bmiluski:
Aaah, where is Wiky Leaks when you need them.

Hopefully, burrowing to Ecuador.
 
 
+44 # angelfish 2012-08-15 22:11
Phony, pious, psalm singing HYPOCRITE! Go, therefore, and do as I SAY, not as I DO! Notice how he's distancing himself from Ayn Rand as her toxic attributes seem to clash with his "Christianity"? What say you? How's about a little CENSURE in Congress?
 
 
+26 # Virginia 2012-08-15 23:02
I'm surprised these Congressional representatives have time to work with all the trading they do. Maybe they don't need as much staff since they apparently have plenty of extra time to take care of personal business...
 
 
+17 # pbbrodie 2012-08-16 07:22
Republican Congress members have all the time they need. All they do is vote no on everything and anything that might benefit the middle class and go on about their main business, accumulating cash.
 
 
+36 # jcadams 2012-08-16 00:30
"Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis ..." Sure! And I still believe in the Tooth Fairy.
 
 
+39 # feloneouscat 2012-08-16 05:48
Quoting jcadams:
"Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis ..." Sure! And I still believe in the Tooth Fairy.


Um, I work with algorithms. Have for 30 plus years. In fact i write them as well.

Here is a thing about algorithms - they can't predict the future. They can only react with what they know. Since nothing "happened" on the day of the meeting, the algorithms were oblivious.

This is nothing more than coverup for insider trading. Not even a good lie.
 
 
+37 # James Smith 2012-08-16 02:40
Surely this was just a coincidence and he had been thinking of revising his investments for some time. Riiiiggghhhhhttt!

This would not be the first criminal trying to become vice-president. Nor even one being aided by another criminal trying to become president.

If this pair are elected, the financial rape and ruin of the USA will be completed before the end of their first term.
 
 
+41 # ThinkRodan 2012-08-16 03:20
Sounds like INSIDER TRADING to me! It is illegal for OTHERS to do it,the same standards should apply to CONGRESS MEMBERS!
 
 
+34 # lin96 2012-08-16 03:55
You know, if one or two Congressmen or Senators are practicing insider trading, you know there's more than just the ones who got caught. Senator Bill Frist was caught doing insider trading the way Martha Stewart did. She went to jail...he had his hands slapped...resig ned from the Senate and went free. He's probably working for the banks now.
 
 
+22 # anarchteacher 2012-08-16 04:15
Congressman Paul Ryan was simply applying one of the oldest principles in politics, that of "Honest Graft," as set forth by the esteemed Tammany Hall ward boss George Washington Plunkitt. Reporter William L. Riordon was Plunkitt's renowned chronicler in his Plunkitt of Tammany Hall: A Series of Very Plain Talks on Very Practical Politics, an American classic in wit, wisdom, and Realpolitik. I have my Political Parties students read it to absorb its timeless insights on political plunder as the lifeblood of the state. Much ado has been made of the congressman's Randian reading habits. But has anyone asked if rather than reading her it is Plunkitt who is his true mentor and inspiration?
 
 
+40 # walt 2012-08-16 04:17
Every day that goes by shows the USA has become a total oligarchy run by the corporate elite and the elected members of Congress they own. Meanwhile, the likes of Goldman-Sachs are always surfacing in all arenas as noted in this article.

Ryan is also a millionaire and made plenty from his wife's job as a D.C lobbyist.

When will the electorate wake up and clean the corruption out of government? Romney and Ryan should be dismissed by every American who wants to have government of, by, and for the people!
 
 
+9 # Capn Canard 2012-08-16 07:43
I trust that the electorate won't wake up. Their and our personal security is the greatest sleeping pill. Money is the carcinogen.
 
 
+23 # lin96 2012-08-16 04:23
It's time the rules that apply to the rest of America also apply to our House and Senate. Wouldn't you say it's time to clean house and start over with new rules made by the people and not the House and Senate themselves? How far away are the rules they have now compared to what's outlined in the Constitution for them? What applies to every American should apply to them. That means they no longer govern themselves, they have to participate in Social Security and Medicare and no full salaries when they retire, no more lavish benefits, enact term limits, insist on campaign finance, and more stringent rules that are followed by ramifications. If they're caught taking lobbiest money... they're automatially out, and normal ethical practices that don't require a mental giant to understand. If Grover Norquist, who most people don't even know, can force Congress to sign a paper saying they won't vote to raise taxes can do this...why can't the American people collectively do this?
 
 
+7 # X Dane 2012-08-16 15:55
lin96
My thoughts precisely. I totally agree with you. And Grover Norquist is scum.
I DO NOT understand that the jerk could say ....publicly... that it didn't matter who (of the republicans) became president, as long as he had five functioning digits to sign their laws???

The American people are too darn LETHARGIC!!!
Also I think the reason WE can not get anything done, is that half the citizenry is hypnotized by the Fox crap. I was told that some years ago, the country got together and in 18 month pushed through the vote for 18 year olds!!

When congress is not doing their work, as has been the case for about 3 years, they should NOT GET PAID. And NOBODY should be able to be a lobbyist, until FIVE YEARS AFTER they leave office. Let them get HONEST work for a change.
 
 
+3 # independentmind 2012-08-17 08:27
Nobody should be able to become a lobbyist EVER.
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 07:00
Norquist aspires to be Joseph McCarthy. Since he laundered money for Casino Jack for a fee, sluicing sin money to Christian icon, Ralph Reed, for a "taste" to borrow Tony Soprano's term, I have always wondered what part of his 501(c)(4)'s tax exempt social service that was? I have looked for information regarding any investigation and disposition without success. Apparently, Norquist's stance against taxes allows him to cheat. His filings show different stories to different agencies about percentage of non-mission related, political activity.
 
 
+19 # lin96 2012-08-16 04:25
Paul Ryan came from an affluent background. Perhaps they need to look at his taxes when he began in Congress and now. There's one thing everyone in the House and Senate agree on, it's they protect themselves so we'll never be able to get rid of them. They vote on term limits and they'll never vote in favor of them. The people are the only ones who can stop this lopsided method of justice. We need "Justice For Everybody That Harms Nobody". Romney, Ryan and anybody who wants to get away with defrauding the American people and this country can do so because somebody set up goofy rules and loopholes, and it wasn't our Constitution. They've elitest and act like celebrities who know they are above the law. If Romney and Ryan say they're only releasing two years of tax returns, while the people and the country want more... Why isn't that happening? They're servants of the people, right? There is an outcry for more taxes to be released. The GOP is redistricting and stopping people from voting, which is the only legal right we have left. So what would you call them if not dictators? Whose in charge? Who are they accountable to? Apparently,no one.
 
 
+15 # wrknight 2012-08-16 05:31
Not quite true. Voters are still in charge. But voters need to vote and they need to vote intelligently. Typically, half of eligible voters don't vote at all. So if you want to do something about it, get out the vote. Help register people in your community. Take the day off work on election day and get people to the polls.

Voting is like exercising, if you don't use it, you lose it.
 
 
+1 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 07:02
How are voters in charge with an electoral college that can go with the vote or not?
 
 
+31 # Stormy 2012-08-16 04:52
"In April, Barack Obama signed legislation that bars members of Congress and other federal workers from profiting from non-public information learned on the job."

. . . .yet one more good, positive thing President Obama has done

ended a ward

helped lead the killing of Osama Bin Laden

signed the Fair Pay Act

took away Don't Ask Don't Tell and has led in a positive way the countries acceptance of homosexual

Great things have been done that we MUST be active and vote and get others to also vote for Obama to continue them!!!
 
 
+31 # wrknight 2012-08-16 05:23
If Paul Ryan is the intellectual leader of the Republican Party. what does that say about the Republican Party?

Reminds me of the quote "Think about how stupid the average person is and then realize that 50% of them are stupider than that".
 
 
+4 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 07:09
Reminds me of an exchange I had concerning an administrative officer in our "entity" who was off-the-wall evil. I said she was dumb. An associate said that she was cunning. My reply was that you can't be dumb and cunning at the same time. The friend responded, "Yes, you can." A light bulb went off in my head. "Good Lord, such people are like a deadly virus that operates instinctively in defense of self without thought of consequence to the surrounding population." Scary, very scary. These people aren't dumb. They are cunning as well as well-organized and well-armed with pseudo-studies from Koch-funded lobbying organizations masquerading as public concern groups.
 
 
+7 # freeportguy 2012-08-16 06:04
Coincidence of course...
 
 
-51 # JackB 2012-08-16 06:32
Three things.

If he did something illegal tell Holder to get off his ass & prosecute. If he didn't do anything illegal what are all these dumb rants about?

2. The article points out Pelosi did the same thing. How come she gets a free ride?

3. This isn't about Ryan. It's about Divine Barry. He can't run on his record so the acolytes in his Adoration Society are in attack dog mode to muddy the waters.
 
 
+21 # pbbrodie 2012-08-16 07:26
The rants are about unethical and immoral behavior by someone running for Vice President.
Pelosi isn't running for Vice President and her actions are irrelevant here.
This IS about Ryan and not about President Obama.
 
 
-10 # JackB 2012-08-16 18:39
I do hope you share your liberal brilliance with other people on this blog who appear to be unaware that discussing anyone other than Ryan is a no-no.

It was a great stroke of luck that you showed up because as a brilliant liberal I am certain that you can advise us on what constitutes immoral & unethical behavior.

Apparently being named Ryan & running for VP is a prerequisite. Can't forget being a Republican. Obviously on a collision course with Hell. But some things are hard to fathom. Anyone in Congress can do these things but the immoral & unethical behavior only kicks in if you are a Republican running for VP. Sure does look like Obama & the rest of Congress get a free ride.
 
 
+16 # Mamazon 2012-08-16 08:17
This was legal insider trading as only congress is allowed to legally rape and pillage and there ain't no trickle down for the 99%... just another bump on our national slide into total corporate fascism. Romney and Ryan are truly the corporate master's dream team and we the people must resist by voting the bums out and supporting Obama as he is much more one of us than one of them.
 
 
+15 # jwb110 2012-08-16 09:17
The appearance of his insider trading should be quite enough to question his ethics. To be within the letter of the law is not enough to expunge any guilt.
 
 
+6 # Mrcead 2012-08-16 16:27
Ryan, as a self confessed Randroid, would have acted according to his best interests, no?

Besides, according to Republicans, "We don't believe in coincidence" - their words.
 
 
+6 # Electricrailwaygod 2012-08-16 16:34
Using an expression from the former Cold War of the 1960's he is such a 'capitalist pig'! This is only a spoke in the wheel of the broader picture that is now showing face in America today of just what Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov Lenin, and Karl Marx had written about from the more recent past to all the way back some two centuriies ago! This phenomenon has been predicted by these two great thinkers and revolutionaries way before 2008 had hit the fan!

This is BY DESIGN, just the way the capitalist system operates, by design it ds supposed to disenfranchise the vast majority of people for the 'good' of the privileged very few! This system is simply NOT DESIGNED -- and cannot work -- in its original archaic form as such is practised today on Wall Street here today in Amerika! The very name is CAPITALism! What is capital? M O N E Y ! G R E E D !

What is SOCIALism? Just look at the very word! The ROOT is SOCIAL! What is social? From the Latin Socialis, a COMMUNITY working in harmony T O G E T H E R! (i. e. NOT competing A G A I N S T one another)! (Maybe I am still not getting through to some of you) Shanmeful.

Thank you!
 
 
+3 # ghostperson 2012-08-17 07:15
We don't have capitalism anymore we have greed operating under the banner of capitalism. Capitalists used their own money. Many of the big financiers were partnerships. Now they are groups with strange names that put up a small percentage of capital, borrow the rest and rely extraction of funds before the fit hits the shan. Those funds are then shielded by tax credits, deductions, loopholes. Buy the book, Red Ink, we lose as much in revenue as we take in from vampire capitalism. It would be easier just to lower the rates and make a savings off the reduced administrative costs for processing their b.s.
 
 
+10 # Mannstein 2012-08-16 18:28
Listen up folks Ryan is entitled to his entitlements which he didn't pay for unlike the rest of us who are not entitled to our entitlements which we paid for. Do you finally get it?
 
 
+3 # Old Man 2012-08-17 15:47
How can anyone trust these two slim bags Romney & Ryan running for the highest office in the land?????? Talk about cheating and lying, man-o-man.
 
 
+1 # Buddha 2012-08-18 19:57
This will be a non-topic during this election, because many Congressmen of BOTH parties do this insider trading, and it is perfectly legal. Of course, when someone like Martha Stewart gets an insider tip, she goes to jail. Welcome to the two different standards of justice in our country, the politically connected vs everyone else, the rich vs the poor, whites vs the minorites, all have quite different judicial outcomes.
 

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