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Rudman reports: "Rep. John Lewis corrected Rush Limbaugh's ... suggestion that Lewis would not 'have been beat upside the head' during the march to Selma if he had had a gun."

Civil Rights leader John Lewis. (photo: Rudolf Wichert)
Civil Rights leader John Lewis. (photo: Rudolf Wichert)



John Lewis Schools Rush Limbaugh

By Chelsea Rudman, Media Matters for America

20 January 13

 

ep. John Lewis corrected Rush Limbaugh's misrepresentation of the civil rights movement, responding to Limbaugh's suggestion that Lewis would not "have been beat upside the head" during the march to Selma if he had had a gun.

Earlier on Friday, Limbaugh had asked on his radio show, "If a lot of African-Americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, you think they would have needed Selma?" He continued, "If John Lewis, who says he was beat upside the head, if John Lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge?"

During the 1965 march from Selma, Alabama, to Montgomery in support of voting rights for African-Americans, state troopers beat the unarmed protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Lewis suffered a concussion.

Responding to Limbaugh today, Lewis said in a press release:

"Our goal in the Civil Rights Movement was not to injure or destroy but to build a sense of community, to reconcile people to the true oneness of all humanity," said Rep. John Lewis. "African Americans in the 60s could have chosen to arm themselves, but we made a conscious decision not to. We were convinced that peace could not be achieved through violence. Violence begets violence, and we believed the only way to achieve peaceful ends was through peaceful means. We took a stand against an unjust system, and we decided to use this faith as our shield and the power of compassion as our defense.
"And that is why this nation celebrates the genius and the elegance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s work and philosophy. Through the power of non-violent action, Dr. King accomplished something that no movement, no action of government, no war, no legislation, or strategy of politics had ever achieved in this nation's history. It was non-violence that not only brought an end to legalized segregation and racial discrimination, but Dr. King's peaceful work changed the hearts of millions of Americans who stood up for justice and rejected the injury of violence forever."

Full Press Release From Lewis' Office:

In an effort to encourage people to resist new gun control legislation, a statement was made on The Rush Limbaugh Show today which misrepresents Civil Rights Movement history. In the shadow of the Martin Luther King Jr. Day of Service, in the year we celebrate the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington in August, and a little more than a month before the annual celebration of the events in Selma, Rep. John Lewis was glad to address this inaccuracy.

"Our goal in the Civil Rights Movement was not to injure or destroy but to build a sense of community, to reconcile people to the true oneness of all humanity," said Rep. John Lewis. "African Americans in the 60s could have chosen to arm themselves, but we made a conscious decision not to. We were convinced that peace could not be achieved through violence. Violence begets violence, and we believed the only way to achieve peaceful ends was through peaceful means. We took a stand against an unjust system, and we decided to use this faith as our shield and the power of compassion as our defense.

"And that is why this nation celebrates the genius and the elegance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s work and philosophy. Through the power of non-violent action, Dr. King accomplished something that no movement, no action of government, no war, no legislation, or strategy of politics had ever achieved in this nation's history. It was non-violence that not only brought an end to legalized segregation and racial discrimination, but Dr. King's peaceful work changed the hearts of millions of Americans who stood up for justice and rejected the injury of violence forever.
"

WHAT HAPPENED IN SELMA ALABAMA?


On March 7, 1965, 600 peaceful nonviolent Civil Rights workers attempted to march from Selma to Montgomery to demonstrate the need for voting rights in Alabama. The march was led by John Lewis and Hosea Williams. They were met on the Edmund Pettus Bridge by Alabama state troopers who beat the unarmed marchers. Lewis suffered a concussion on the bridge. A few days after the march President Lyndon Johnson introduced a bill to the Congress which became the Voting Rights Act of 1965, described as one of the most effective pieces of legislation Congress has issued in the past 50 years. An important section of the Voting Rights Act is currently in jeopardy and will be reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court in February.
 

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+255 # MainStreetMentor 2013-01-20 13:12
Mahatma Ghandi and Dr. Martin Luther King brought about massive awareness and subsequent changes in their respective countries following non-violent means. "Lush Rumball's" (a pseudonym for a fading radio personality) attempt of sarcastic incitement against gun control initiatives has been successfully rebutted by John Lewis. And, of course, you, I and "Mr. Rumball" know Mr. Lewis is/was correct.
 
 
+138 # RLF 2013-01-21 05:14
People are always thanking veterans of wars for their service and I think it is a sham! We should bee thanking men like Mr. Lewis for their service to our country...which like he says...actually accomplished something positive and not just made a mess. Until we can all get behind a similar movement against the corporate/fasci st state, we'll see no meaningful change in this country. Where is MLK when we need him?
 
 
+23 # T4D 2013-01-21 12:29
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary to defend freedom in war and in peace. You are correct that people who go armed with nothing by the truth of life deserve more respect than soldiers who go armed with weapons of death. But, do not disrespect people who offer their lives in either event.
 
 
+116 # AMLLLLL 2013-01-21 07:01
Lamebaugh is living proof that money cannot buy class. Lewis has provided an eloquent, neutral response to the fountain of ignorance. Now THAT'S class.
 
 
+28 # mdhome 2013-01-21 11:02
Rash Limbo is the noisiest 12 year old I know of.
 
 
+62 # Trueblue Democrat 2013-01-21 07:41
Talk about throwing pearls before swine.

By the way, MainStreet, I always thought it was "Lush Rambo," but it doesn't matter. Shakespeare had it right, a Rush by any other name would still stink up the airwaves.
 
 
+32 # X Dane 2013-01-21 15:44
MainStreetMentor.
If Rush had a brain,..... instead of the drug mush, in his scull....He would know that if Lewis and the other marchers had guns, they would have been shot.
Rush would have liked that I think. He is always inciting to violence....Scu m.
 
 
+7 # wrknight 2013-01-22 14:57
You and I know that Mr. Lewis is right, but I would argue the point the Mr. Rumball, as you call him, knows this. Unfortunately, he is one of many people who are incapable of learning because they already know everything there is to know (or alternatively have such a low capacity for knowledge that they can't absorb any more).
 
 
+127 # treadlightly 2013-01-20 14:16
You would think that a man so full of disease as R.L. is, would eventually contract some kind of terminal illness and drop dead.
Every time we respond to one of his insane dialogs we inadvertently fuel the fire.
I was warned about the danger of arguing with a lunatic, I was told that a third party might mistake me for a madman as well.
Let the fool stew in his own juices and pray for a heart attack.
John Lewis need not stoop to that level it is undignified.
 
 
+41 # RLF 2013-01-21 05:15
I'm not wasting my dreams of a painful death on RL but save it for the right of the SCOTUS bench!
 
 
+35 # bigkahuna671 2013-01-21 07:57
RLF, you've got that right!! SCOTUS is the single-most barrier to really getting anything accomplished in our country because without them we wouldn't have the Koch Bros and Sheldon Adelbrained spending millions to defeat quality Dems as in AZ where flakey Jeff Flake defeated Richard Carmona, a true hero who not only fought for his country in Vietnam, but was a trauma doctor, a SWAT team member, and Surgeon General of the U.S. The only thing Flake ever fought for was avoiding paying the check for GOP blunders. People like John Lewis continue to be reelected because the GOP hasn't figured a way to gerrymander his district into oblivion. Thank God we have Rep. Lewis and the other warriors of the Civil Rights movement. Perhaps someday we can get men like Dr. Carmona to stand beside him in Congress and actually get something accomplished. Question: If Dr. Carmona came upon any right-leaning member of SCOTUS dying on the steps of the Supreme Court, is he morally bound to save them or could he consider them roadkill and ignore them?
 
 
+17 # suzyskier 2013-01-21 13:08
Please let's just ignore him. That will drive him crazy, the more we ignore him the crazier he'll get and eventually breakdown and leave. I hope.
 
 
+10 # bmiluski 2013-01-22 08:08
I agree, however, you've heard the phrase, "Keep telling the same lie often enough and people will start believing it"? So, yes my dear as much as we all would love to just shut him out and ignore him and the likes of him.......we cannot.
 
 
+194 # Scott479 2013-01-20 16:55
I have the utmost respect for John Lewis-read Parting the Waters : America in the King Years to learn what a giant he is among all of us in this country. Limbaugh doesn't warrant a footnote to the accomplishments of John Lewis.
 
 
+53 # juliajayne 2013-01-20 21:35
Very true. John Lewis is a true blue fighter for civil rights. He was also a freedom rider. In fact, "Freedom Riders" - the movie that was on PBS back in 2011 can be seen on Netflix and everyone who didn't see it when it aired should try and see it now. Very powerful story!
 
 
+5 # randrjwr 2013-01-22 08:30
Quoting Scott479:
I have the utmost respect for John Lewis-read Parting the Waters : America in the King Years to learn what a giant he is among all of us in this country. Limbaugh doesn't warrant a footnote to the accomplishments of John Lewis.


Another must-read is "The Children" by David Halberstam. They knew that non-violence was the only viable approach. To have had guns would only have given the police an excuse for mass murder in "self defense."
 
 
+146 # Liberalthinker 2013-01-20 21:02
I am a resident of Georgia. John Lewis is one of the reasons that that fact is not totaly embarrasing . Limburger smells up the airwaves with his asininity and flamboyant ignorance.
 
 
+72 # BobbyLip 2013-01-20 21:06
Limbo is nothing but a comedian. Too bad he's not funny.
 
 
+14 # mdhome 2013-01-21 11:18
He is something much less than a comedian.
 
 
+15 # Pickwicky 2013-01-21 17:29
Limbaugh is--what's the term?--a rabble rouser, one with a huge, poorly-educated , intolerant, gun-toting audience. He is also a fat slob drooling into a microphone for lotsa money--as such, he's as interesting as a bowl of gruel. But factor in the crazies that listen to him, and the morons who vote as he directs, and it adds up to serious trouble for this country. Indeed, for nearly 25 years Limbaugh has been dishing out very, very serious trouble.
 
 
+212 # DaveM 2013-01-20 21:08
I would assume that if the marchers at Selma had been armed, they would have been confronted by the National Guard and killed. And the headlines would have shouted about an "uprising" and the need for "more security" (does this sound familiar?).

Dr. King and those who followed him knew better. They knew they must not give anyone "an excuse". So they didn't. Who is more brave: the armed man who cracks an unarmed man's skull or the unarmed man who walks up to that armed man knowing his skull may well end up cracked?

Rush Limbaugh, please go away. You said you would go to Costa Rica. We'll take care of your airfare. Just go. Or at least put down that microphone.
 
 
+22 # Third_stone 2013-01-21 08:18
I will chip in for the air fare but can he get his drugs there?
It would appear that Lintball's purpose is to spread hate and divisiveness. He attacks this nation's heros. Where does he come from?
 
 
+5 # bmiluski 2013-01-22 08:10
It appears that lushball's purpose is to make as much money as he can in whatever way he can.
 
 
+24 # reiverpacific 2013-01-21 09:08
Quoting DaveM:
I would assume that if the marchers at Selma had been armed, they would have been confronted by the National Guard and killed. And the headlines would have shouted about an "uprising" and the need for "more security" (does this sound familiar?).

Dr. King and those who followed him knew better. They knew they must not give anyone "an excuse". So they didn't. Who is more brave: the armed man who cracks an unarmed man's skull or the unarmed man who walks up to that armed man knowing his skull may well end up cracked?

Rush Limbaugh, please go away. You said you would go to Costa Rica. We'll take care of your airfare. Just go. Or at least put down that microphone.

Costa Rica is too good for him (and has universal health care). More like Honduras, Colombia or better still Paraguay, next to e the Bush compound.
And he is wealthy enough to take care of his own airfare; agree with you but like a truly virulent virus, he is hard to budge and there are plenty others of his ilk in the US.
 
 
+111 # Evolouie 2013-01-20 21:08
I have the utmost respect for Rush Limbaugh's doctors, How they keep that vile piece of drug addicted, Dominican boy abuser, rotting racist bigot alive is beyond me.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2013-01-22 08:11
It's called MONEY.......
 
 
+1 # Terrapin 2013-11-12 13:24
... Kinda want to chase his fat, porky, naked ass through a teddy bear cholla forest
 
 
+24 # Cdesignpdx 2013-01-20 21:40
I happened upon an article on TreeHugger, "Bizarre Tongue-Eating Parasite Discovered Off the Jersey Coast."
Rush, Get thee to the Jersey Shore for a swim.
 
 
+44 # JAJ 2013-01-20 21:44
The Black Panthers were one African American group that *did* arm themselves, and they were heavily criticized for it by law enforcement officials as well as non-violent civil rights leaders. Ironically, the NRA in those days was not as much of a gun-manufacture rs lobby as it is today, and it tended to side with law-enforcement officials about gun access, i.e., it didn't support the Black Panthers' gun-brandishing .
 
 
+15 # Third_stone 2013-01-21 08:20
The NRA called for gun control when the negroes had guns.
Actually the Panthers were crushed and jailed, their lives destroyed.
 
 
+16 # Skeeziks 2013-01-21 11:26
"...the NRA in those days was not as much of a gun-manufacture rs lobby as it is today, and it tended to side with law-enforcement officials about gun access, i.e., it didn't support the Black Panthers' gun-brandishing."

Only because the Black Panthers were black.
 
 
+50 # unitedwestand 2013-01-20 21:48
America doesn't seem to care about what is right or decent, or at least, that is how it seems to me when some blowhard like Rush can continue to influence the dialogue of this country the way he has, and the people listen.
There should be no argument whatsoever that that man doesn't contribute to the health of this country and that he should be held accountable. If there was a rebuttal after every show, or he would actually have someone with an opposing view on, where he lets them talk, it might be a different matter. But propaganda can't work with opposition.
From what I've listened of Limbaugh, he never even lets a caller that opposes him on the air for long, and when one slips through, he is vicious & crude. I don't think we can reason with someone like that. Someday Rush will be remembered as trash. (Rich, greedy trash, but trash.)
John Lewis should be treated like the national treasure that he is, and how he will be remembered, as a hero., not only that, but we should let him know how much we appreciate what he did for his people and the country.
 
 
+24 # Third_stone 2013-01-21 08:23
Somebody has an interest in the hate and divisiveness Lintball generates. Somebody is willing to pay a lot of money to keep his kind on the air, keeping the nation raging. We need to know who is behind this activity, who is trying to destroy our nation.
 
 
+9 # treadlightly 2013-01-21 11:40
Bain Capital, Remember that name?
Clear Channel Communications, Inc. is an American mass media company headquartered in San Antonio, Texas. Founded in 1972 by Lowry Mays and B. J. "Red" McCombs, the company was taken private by Bain Capital, LLC and Thomas H. Lee Partners in a leveraged buyout in 2008; as a result, the company now operates as a wholly owned subsidiary of CC Media Holdings, Inc.
 
 
+4 # FatCharley 2013-01-22 08:04
Ah yes - Mitt's day job was Bain Capital. Think this could have been one of his bright ideas?
 
 
+4 # scorpio 2013-01-22 06:41
Maybe we should start with Roger Ailes and Richard Murdoch.
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2013-01-22 08:13
America does care for your right of free speech. As much as I hate/loath lushball, I will still fight for his right to speak/spew.
 
 
+42 # reiverpacific 2013-01-20 22:00
Just goes to prove that it takes REAL guts, man or woman, to do what these people -and actually some of their white "Yankeh" supporters did in the face of and knowing the consequences of their actions.
Contrast this with a highly paid coward who hides behind a microphone in a nice, warm, safe studio and won't even DEBATE anybody with half a brain, never mind stand up and be counted in public against injustice but in fact helps to perpetrate it. And he gets heard on most of Clear Channels hundreds of robotic stations nationwide.
I've been jailed and beaten on protests and rallies quite a few times in my youth and not-so-youth but had a hot temper, no bloody sense and fought like Hell until either beaten unconscious or subdued by cops and cuffs. I just don't know how Rep Lewis, King and the others did it, and they had it a lot harder than I will ever know.
That's real strength, as is Leonard Peltier in Max security prison for F.B.I. revenge only, and still sane after 37 years.
These folks are the saints of our time.
 
 
+4 # FatCharley 2013-01-22 08:11
Thank you for bringing up Leonard Peltier, who will never be forgotten by his fellow Minnesotans. We all knew he was railroaded big time. I lived near the AIM (American Indian Movement) Center on Franklin Avenue in Minneapolis back then.
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2013-01-24 18:59
Quoting FatCharley:
Thank you for bringing up Leonard Peltier, who will never be forgotten by his fellow Minnesotans. We all knew he was railroaded big time. I lived near the AIM (American Indian Movement) Center on Franklin Avenue in Minneapolis back then.

Sorry, I hit the wrong thumbs button -meant it to be a green one. Aging is a bitch!
 
 
+43 # vgirl1 2013-01-20 22:02
Only the right wing neocon, NRA supporting racists would continue suggesting that if only Black people had been armed they could have avoided slavery and the atrocities of crimes against them during the post Civil War, Jim Crow years and the Civil Rights movement. Have any of these ignorant folk stopped to consider just how absurd these notion are? First with respect to slavery. Yeah sure, if only at each landing of a slave ship the occupants brought here in chains had only grabbed some guns. They definitely could have fended off all those slavers and avoided being sold as they left those ships. Next if only Blacks had armed themselves to defeat racism, Jim Crow segregation would have ended so much sooner. Tell that to groups like the Black Panthers.

Any armed opposition by Blacks to change the society would have been seen as an uprising / riot and the perfect excuse for those in power and content on maintaining the status quo to gun them down.
 
 
-7 # Livemike 2013-01-21 13:55
Except that of course there were lots of armed actions by blacks at the time, with groups like the Deacons For Defence protecting their communities. So sad that you're even more ignorant than Limbaugh.
 
 
0 # Livemike 2013-01-30 04:24
Notice how everyone is down-rating me but nobody is disputing me?
 
 
+36 # PrimatePrincess 2013-01-20 22:06
Limbaugh is a paid mouthpiece designed to keep everyone distracted and all frothed up with his outrageous nonsense so that we aren't concentrating our energies on the path forward. We can get rid of him by not listening to him, not giving him a second of airtime, a second of acknowledgement . Let him rot alone in his own vile filth. We do not need to fuel his vitriolic misery or make it ours. Ignore him! It might make hime go away.
 
 
+39 # goodsensecynic 2013-01-20 22:14
If 600 armed Civil Rights workers had confronted the authorities on the Pettus Bridge, they'd have been slaughtered. And Rush Limbaugh would still be cheering for the forces of law and order who had done so in order to suppress a race war.
 
 
+30 # brider 2013-01-20 22:51
Rush really needs a history lesson. In 1922 in Tulsa Ok there
was what started as a Racial March on downtown Tulsa. Some of the Blacks were armed some not and what started
as a peaceful march became a race riot and the National Guard was called out. Unarmed Blacks were shot and killed as well as armed and major parts of the city were burned.
It took close to 50 years for Race Relations to be somewhat mended.
 
 
+29 # brider 2013-01-20 22:53
If Rush thinks Marchers being armed would help he needs to look at Detroit, Newark, Watts, Memphis, and many oter cities caught up in the civil rights struggle of the sixties.
 
 
+27 # Woodlander 2013-01-21 02:44
Scott479 - another great review of the Civil Rights Movement is Walking with the Wind, by John Lewis.
What a class response from Rep. Lewis!
 
 
+37 # flippancy 2013-01-21 02:53
One John Lewis is worth a million Rush Limpballs.
 
 
+27 # cordleycoit 2013-01-21 03:00
Lewis is doing the right thing in educating the misinformed Rush. Whit America does not understand the real victory that was won.
 
 
+3 # dovelane1 2013-01-21 23:50
Cordley - There is NO educating Rush or his followers. They are too afraid to hear any information that differs from their point of view.

Any attempt to challenge them leads them to dig their heels in, and get angry. Fear does that to people.

LETTER to the EDITOR-- MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE

Let's look at what we have learned from this election:
Twenty-one of 22 incumbent senators were re-elected, and 353 of 373 incumbent members of the House were re-elected. The American people have re-elected 94 percent of the incumbents who were running for re-election to an institution that has an approval rating of about 9 percent. This indicates, as an electorate, we are a nation of idiots. We're now stuck with the useless, dysfunctional government that we deserve.

You can't fix stupid......... ..........
 
 
+1 # BeaDeeBunker 2013-01-22 16:19
You can't fix stupid, but you can easily outsmart stupid!
Your assessment of the state of electoral politics is right on the mark, with this additional bit of crazy fact: only 50% of the eligible voters take the opportunity to vote. Can you imagine what would happen if 100% of eligible voters actually voted? I'm going for a 100% because I believe that if I'm going to imagine I'm going to imagine BIG!
We have been living the script of "1984" since January 1981 when the former host of "Death Vally Days" took on his finest role as B picture actor, in his longest running, best scripted, sublimely directed epic titled "POTUS."
I firmly believe that the free popcorn we were given to watch this saga was laced with something that was detrimental to our health and well-being, and enabled our national soul to be sold to the highest bidder.
 
 
+34 # Smokey 2013-01-21 04:28
The Black Panthers had guns during the 1960s. Guys like Rush Limbaugh were enraged. The cops persecuted the Panthers.
 
 
+26 # Jim 2013-01-21 06:05
And...if the Civil Rights movement had resorted to the use of guns, can you imagine the susequent bloodshed brought on by the rabid, gun-toting Clan? It could well have been all out civil war.

The NRA, Limbaugh and much of the political/relig ious right wing of America are deluded if they really think guns would have been anything but incendiary. Not only are they dim witted in their literalist interpretation of Bible and Constitution but also they lack the creative imagination to foresee disaster - as in Vietnam, as in Iraq, even as in imagining the disaster of MLK with a gun.
 
 
+21 # anntares 2013-01-21 06:25
Guess who beat Rep. Lewis and hundreds of other supporters of the right to vote and shop in stores and seat anywhere on a bus?... The people like Limbaugh who churn up anger against anyone who is different from them but dares ask for fairness and justice.
 
 
+16 # hd70642 2013-01-21 06:32
Can somebody coming from privledge really state what the most effective means of countering persecution is ?When it comes to Limbaugh you are talking about an individual whose only hard times are rocks rattling around in his head.
 
 
+16 # timgil1 2013-01-21 06:38
Don & Mike, "Shock Jocks" based in DC used to air clips from Rush's previously failed top 40 disc jockey career. It was very similar to his act today except there were no ugly attacks & insane partisan rants. It was the EIB, Talent on loan from God, etc. He just got lucky finding an uneducated following who are willing to ignore truths. I don't see a Rush Limbaugh holiday in our future.
 
 
+9 # hd70642 2013-01-21 07:38
Well What about halloween and sonedody dressed as a horse's well you know what? There is nothing professional or informed about those reactionary regressive corporate shills be it Limbaugh Beck Coulter O Really Mike Savage thier acts seem like dummed down comic book /tabliods and I am surprised Sea monkeys Xray Glasses and itching powder are not advertized on their programs
 
 
+17 # Citizen Mike 2013-01-21 06:50
YES, let us remember that back in the 60s and 70s there were very loud separatist factions and activists in the Black Community who did advocate armed resistance to racist oppression.

The Black Panthers did exercise their Second-Amendmen t Rights, They sent carloads of riflemen to follow police cars on patrol to discourage racist brutality. They claimed the police were a foreign army of occupation and demanded to patrol their own streets as a volunteer militia.

But they did not gain much traction in the Black Community or the general public and their armed resistance position did not prevail over the use of nonviolent means of protest.
 
 
+19 # Amir Mashay 2013-01-21 06:51
Hey, when the Panthers APPEARED to be a threat with guns they were systematically and effectively taken apart through an array of means. And if you look at any group, right or left, that challenged the government or the status quo with guns, they were crushed, from John Brown, to Waco Texas. And folks like Limbaugh should be careful 'cause they might give someone the idea to shoot them up!
 
 
+8 # Gnome de Pluehm 2013-01-21 06:54
Is Limbaugh still around??!!!

Haven't seen or heard him in years!
 
 
+16 # Big Jake 2013-01-21 06:56
What has Costa Rica ever done to deserve Rush? We need to deal with our own trash.
 
 
+10 # kalpal 2013-01-21 07:00
It is the current BS meme in the right wing that slaves should have had guns and then they would not have been slaves. This reminds of the the, we could have ham and eggs if we had ham and if we had eggs."

So I am fascinated by how a slave should have managed to buy a gun? Who would have sold it to him in the community he was enslaved in? Would his owner be so "liberal" as as to say to his slaves, "Go ahead and buy guns if you wish."

I am often told to stop insisting that right wingers were raised by their parents to ignorant fools. If that is true how did they get that way? How is it they are oblivious to the obvious disconnect between being a slave and being a gun owner? Would slavery have been possible? Should each slave have been issued a musket as soon as he set foot on noth American soil? Bah Humbug!
 
 
+11 # Corvette-Bob 2013-01-21 07:13
I believe that we the liberals should do everything that we can to keep Russ on the radio since he is completely delusional and his stupid remarks whip our base. He does not convert his base but only inflames those who already support the far right agenda. We want the Republicans to maintain their far right agenda that is only embraced by the Southern white males and the rural areas which are becoming less and less relevant to the issues of this country. Want proof, the Republicans did not even pass a farm bill since the rural portions of the country flex almost no political power in Congress. The urban areas drive the political process. The Republicans have slowed down this proces by their drawing of the congreassional districts but the changing of the demographics will change our politics.
 
 
+17 # SixStringSlinger 2013-01-21 08:00
I would like to second the comments mad by goodsensecynic and brider above. It's appropriate to answer Lim-blaugh as John Lewis did, stay on the positive side of the argument. But it's also appropriate to answer his suggestion with a realistic assessment of what would have happened and what would happen if people in a social movement were to arm themselves as many pro-gun people have been suggesting lately. Slaughter is what would have happened, what has happened and what would happen if it occurred today. Just try to imagine the students at Kent State in May of 1970 if some of them had been armed. The slaughter that did take place would have been ten times worse. Guns do not win the argument. There are only losers afterward. Guns do not make you safe. It was the realizing of this that led Gandhi and King to utilize the power of non-violence.
 
 
+19 # Vauban 2013-01-21 08:01
If only Jesus and the apostles had guns........... .
 
 
+23 # chinaski 2013-01-21 08:27
Rush Limbaugh believes that a black man in 1965 can pull a gun and fire into a group of Alabama state troopers and claim what...self defense? Do we need to describe what the result of that would have been?
This is an incredibly crass, stupid and racist statement to make. Showing no understanding of history or humanity.
This walking talking malignant tumor of adipose tissue that masquerades as a quote human unquote being possesses neither the courage to appear at said bridge unarmed nor the intelligence to see its necessity.
Kick back and pop another oxy fatboy, it could only serve to widen your untelligence.
 
 
+14 # maroon1 2013-01-21 09:20
Rush Limbaugh is suggesting that African-America n's should have fired on duly sworn law enforcement officers, to further their cause. Interesting. Rush Limbaugh is advocating killing police to further civil rights. Must be some powerful oxy's he be smokin'.
 
 
+11 # cvahr2 2013-01-21 11:02
Can you imagine what would have happened if a crowd of black men and women WITH GUNS had marched from Selma to Montgomery? They were unarmed and they were beaten. Armed they would have been shot and killed. Rush is a dangerous loon from another planet.
 
 
+12 # rp7943 2013-01-21 11:06
Whenever I think of Rush Limbaugh, I see a fat pig wallowing in his own ignorance. His remarks on guns at Selma underline his ignorance. I wonder when the companies who own the stations he broadcasts to will finally see him for what he is--a rambling, stupid, drug-addicted, drunken fool who doesn't deserve airtime.
 
 
+1 # FatCharley 2013-01-22 08:25
Quoting rp7943:
Rush Limbaugh,His remarks on guns at Selma underline his ignorance. I wonder when the companies who own the stations he broadcasts for will finally see him for what he is--a rambling, stupid, drug-addicted, drunken fool who doesn't deserve airtime.
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Rush is possibly all of the above, but he clearly provides entertainment/" truth" to any number of good folks in small towns and rural communities. Decent people, even, who believe in the dangers he spouts and his ideas. They don't know better - or just don't want to find out more. But some of us do end up "fact checking" and no longer listening.
 
 
+9 # Craig Jones 2013-01-21 11:39
My wife says he is going deaf because, " even his own ears don't want to hear what he has to say".
 
 
+8 # Diareo Knabo 2013-01-21 11:39
Rights for people of colour, rights for women, have made extraordinary strides. Even GLBT rights, though still a huge problem of homophobia still unfortunately exisis, there is just one more civil right that has yet to be covered. The rights of the POOR! The right to climb out of impoverished circumstances! Even iternational immigration conventions through the UNO STILL have their scapegoat, their loophole in one element of the human population that has all but been forgotten: the POOR! It is only to this day,the POOR who are so adverselydiscri minated agaist immigration on the planet from one country to another! Infact all the laws are geared to 'weed out' the impoverished as they might become a 'burden uponthe State' inthe view of most civilised andindustralise d nations!

This perhaps is the last true area that needs serious work, the rights of the POOR as to escape thebonds of poverty (and thus not be poor any longer)!
 
 
0 # David Starr 2013-01-21 12:41
I'm now certain that the likes of a Limbaugh were born without a conscience. Right-wingers/c onservatives, at least the majority, then, would have not only opposed the March on Selma, but would have supported police violence on the marchers themselves. Limbaugh probably would have been one of them.
 
 
+4 # suzyskier 2013-01-21 13:03
Rush Limbaugh loves attention. That is why he says the looney things he does. Pay him no attention because he just craves it and maybe we can starve the beast.
 
 
+11 # Sweet Pea 2013-01-21 13:36
The City of Flint Michigan is a good example of what arming the population can do. Last week,one boy had shot another boy. While the funeral of the first murdered boy was being held, the gang came in and opened fire on the people at the funeral, killing another boy. The minister had to order everyone onto the floor. Something is wrong with a population that has to "hit the floor" to protect themselves while in a church.
Our lack of gun control is definitely allowing guns to get into the wrong hands
 
 
0 # heraldmage 2013-01-23 15:31
It is not just the guns but the lack of respect for the rights & opinions of others.
Of parents preferring to be friends rather than disciplinarians and allowing the schools to treat their children as criminals & using the criminal justice system instead of parenting to discipline children who are only doing what children are suppose to do in the process of becoming adults, test the limits.
The economy is also at fault forcing parents to work instead of caring for their children.
We need to re think our nation determine what is important. Is it more important to fund drones attacks, assassinations, multiple war, militant terrorist mercenaries, colonizing of sovereign nation to enhance corporate profits, punish nation for refusing to follow USA policy or for overthrowing USA puppet government or should we be funding schools, health care, infrastructure, creating jobs in USA rebuilding our crumbling nation so that our children can have a home where at least 1 parent is available for advice & discipline when required.
It's time the 99% were given the choice in the direction of this nation not the 1% wealthy rulers.
It's time to end corporate USA & the militaries quest to conquer the world using our taxes to fund it.
How many more children must die or become murderers before we as a nation take action to return us to civility?
 
 
+7 # Sensible1 2013-01-21 14:14
Rush is a phoney. Rush began his radio spree by reading the morning news and then making comments based upon others intellectual commentary, for he had really no knowledge or experience of his own. Speaking to a listening audience that was more ignorant than himself, he was able to make an impressive wave of noise and misinformation into the homes of the dittoheads who thought Rush was a God. Everything he spews forth to christian believers is a lie, and contrary to the way he has lived his own life. What Rush says is worthless.
 
 
+3 # dovelane1 2013-01-22 00:05
I see Rush as being the master of the half truth. He tells people the part of the truth that supports his belief system, or his point of view.

He will say what makes him look good, or, at least, doesn't make him look bad. As has been said, most people love the lie (or half-truth) that saves their pride, but never the unflattering truth.

His audience must be in need of having their egos stroked. Flattery would gain no traction with those listening were it not for the vanity and ignorance of the listener.
 
 
+2 # ishmael 2013-01-21 16:03
Isn't someone from the right, with its phenomenal grasp of history, going to accuse Rev King of having been a "fascist"?
 
 
+3 # bmolloy124 2013-01-21 18:01
R.L. represents ignorance steeped in cowardice. As a lot of commenters have said, he's a lousy 'entertainer' -- self appointed via $$$ to be a "radio jock." Can there be any job requiring less basic intelligence and human dignity than to be one of these loudmouths propped up by N.R.A., oil, Heritage Foundation and the Koch's, etc.? Medved and Hannity--what have they accomplished in their long but small lives? Yet they congratulate themselves daily -- Hannity recently told a fellow shock-jock he'd see him at "The Pearly Gates." If there are Pearly Gates, that means there's also hell and if there's hell, there's a special row of booths there w/ Hannity's and Medved's and all the violent anti-everything s but big$$$$ radio "personalities" names on them. I take them on at www.dearpundit.com Please visit!
 
 
+2 # Diareo Knabo 2013-01-22 01:15
Rush Limpballs really needs to retire and get off the damn air! He needs some serious psychiatric treatment for his condition.

He is BEYOND mentaly ill, his brain (if one could conceivably call that grain of wheat size brown matter between his ears a 'brain', I suppose one is entitled to their opinion!) is decrepit, ailing, full of dementia, and simply out of order, a sad malfunctioning unit!

Really, he has no business ever to have been on the air in his pathetic but sad mental state.

Rush, PLEASE! You may leave the studio now -- uh... for good! Allow me to show you the soundproofed door! Thank you Rush for all the vile mental poisoning you have spewed out contributing to the air pollution out there over the years!
 
 
+3 # Jean Louise 2013-01-22 07:45
Proud to be one of Representative Lewis's constituents. : )
 
 
+1 # BeaDeeBunker 2013-01-22 16:35
Rush Limbaugh is the poster boy for a system of justice gone astray. If there was real justice, he would be in prison for drug possession, without a gun, and only his forked tongue to protect his fat ass. How do you think that would work out?
The mere thought gives me the strange, dual, simultaneous feeling of both disgust and glee. I could live with that...no problem!
 
 
+2 # wilhelmscream 2013-01-23 03:45
Racist redneck Limbaugh the Hutt
 
 
0 # heraldmage 2013-01-23 15:09
That's like saying the Peace Protesters at Kent State wouldn't have been shot, killed, or injured by the National Guard if they were armed.
Guns are not weapons of peace. Putting guns into the hands of more people will not stop gun violence.
Even the sanest person can snap. Family problems, job loss, financial problems, classroom of rowdy children, resentment, harassment,envy , illness or death can suddenly be to much to bear. Even the most devote religious person can snap. There is no way to predict who or when some one will lose it & choose a gun to solve the problem.
We need a national reset where violence & killing are not acceptable. We must return to a time of respect, where children are taught to respect their elders. Where parents are in charge & violence is punished not glorified.
We must change our governments approach to dissent. End drone attack, assassination, torture, funding of militant terrorist & wars for profit. We must end the dehumanizes peoples of different religions or national origins by our military.
The USA is not under threat if it has enemies it is due to the unjustified military actions to impose USA & USA corporate will on other nations. To replace the leadership & economic policy in order to expand USA corporate control over natural resources of the world.
It is time our taxes were spent at home rather than funding corporate expansion.
It's time to end the influence of Limbaugh & other like him replacing them with truth
 
 
+1 # hoodwinkednomore 2013-01-23 19:21
Love it: Lintball, Limpball, Lushball, Lameball...make a few of these names plural to really laugh!! This guy is a complete waste of breath. May he live a long and healthy life by himself with no electricity, no money, no fancy this and that, and in the middle of a township in South Africa, perhaps, where HIV/Aids has ravaged communities and families...to gain a little insight. If he can...
 

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