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Excerpt: "The chancellor of the University of California, Davis described the video images as 'chilling' and said she was forming a task force to investigate even as a faculty group called for her resignation because of the incident Friday."

UC Davis Police Lt. John Pike uses pepper spray to move Occupy UC Davis protesters blocking a walkway in the quad on Friday, 11/18/11. (photo: Wayne Tilcock/Davis Enterprise)
UC Davis Police Lt. John Pike uses pepper spray to move Occupy UC Davis protesters blocking a walkway in the quad on Friday, 11/18/11. (photo: Wayne Tilcock/Davis Enterprise)





"Chilling" UC Davis Video Launches Investigation

By Sudhin Thanawala, Associated Press

20 November 11

 

To View the UC Davis videos click here.

Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns


ideo surfaced online Saturday showing an officer at a California university calmly pepper-spraying a line of several sitting protesters, who flinch and cover their faces but remain passive with their arms interlocked as onlookers shriek and scream out for the officer to stop.

The chancellor of the University of California, Davis described the video images as "chilling" and said she was forming a task force to investigate even as a faculty group called for her resignation because of the incident Friday.

"The use of the pepper spray as shown on the video is chilling to us all and raises many questions about how best to handle situations like this," Chancellor Linda Katehi said in a message posted on the school's web site on Saturday.

The protest was held in support of the overall Occupy Wall Street movement and in solidarity with protesters at the University of California, Berkeley, who were jabbed by police with batons on Nov. 9.

The UC Davis video images, which were circulated on YouTube and widely online, prompted immediate outrage among faculty and students, with the Davis Faculty Association saying in a letter Saturday that Katehi should resign.

"The Chancellor's role is to enable open and free inquiry, not to suppress it," the faculty association said in its letter.

It called Katehi's authorization of police force a "gross failure of leadership."

At a news conference later on Saturday, Katehi said what the video shows is "sad and really very inappropriate." The events surrounding the protest have been hard on her personally, but she had no plans to resign, she said.

"I do not think that I have violated the policies of the institution. I have worked personally very hard to make this campus a safe campus for all," she said.

Images of police evictions have served to galvanize support during the Occupy Wall Street movement, from the clash between protesters and police in Oakland last month that left an Iraq War veteran with serious injuries to more recent skirmishes in New York City, San Diego, Denver and Portland, Ore.

The forcible Oakland protest eviction, the first of its kind on a large scale, marred the national reputation of the city's mayor and police department while rallying encampments nationwide beset with their own public safety and sanitation issues.

Police chiefs and mayors held conference calls to discuss containment strategies in the days after the Oct. 25 Oakland eviction. The use of rubber bullets and tear gas dropped off, though police departments have turned to pepper spray when trying to quell large crowds.

Some of the most notorious instances went viral online, including the use of pepper spray on an 84-year-old activist in Seattle and a group of women in New York. Seattle's mayor apologized to the activist, and the New York Police Department official shown using pepper spray on the group of women lost 10 vacation days after an internal review.

In the video of UC Davis protest, the officer, a member of the UC Davis police force, displays a bottle before spraying its contents on the seated protesters in a sweeping motion while walking back and forth. Most of the protesters have their heads down, but at least one is hit in the face.

Some members of a crowd gathered at the scene scream and cry out. The crowd then chants, "Shame on You," as the protesters on the ground are led away. The officers retreat minutes later with helmets on and batons drawn.

Ten people were arrested.

University spokeswoman Karen Nikos said nine people hit by pepper spray were treated at the scene. Another two were taken to hospitals and later released.

Nikos declined to release the identity of the officer in the video.

At Saturday's news conference, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said the decision to use pepper spray was made at the scene.

"The students had encircled the officers," she said. "They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."

Many Twitter and Facebook comments supported the students and criticized the response.

"Stomach churning video of police using pepper spray on seated anti-Wall Street protesters in Davis, Calif.," actress and model Mia Farrow wrote in a retweet of the video.

Elsewhere in California on Saturday, San Francisco public works crews removed tents at two Occupy sites in the city.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that the workers moved in on the encampments in Justin Herman Plaza and in front of the Federal Reserve Bank, removing dozens of tents on grassy areas.

There were no reports of violence, according to San Francisco police spokesman Albie Esparza. He said the action was not a raid.

Police were present but did not become involved.

In Oakland, anti-Wall Street protesters gathered for a rally and march, and vowed to set up tents at a downtown Oakland park, setting the stage for a possible confrontation with authorities.


Associated Press reporters Nigel Duara in Portland, Ore., and Meghan Barr in New York City contributed.

 

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+132 # Billy Bob 2011-11-20 09:46
To all of the conservatives lecturing us to “stop whining” about the treatment American citizens receive (afterall, it isn't like we're being shot as they are in the Middle-East) -

Think about it:

1. This is AMERICA. How low do conservatives need to set the bar?

2. In the Middle-East there aren't as many cameras recording the event. Notice how angry the cops here get about those cameras. The pig in the picture above was so arrogant he didn't even care who was watching. If he wanted to shoot some “old ladies” he probably would have care who was taking pictures of it.

3. In the Middle-East, many of those victims of bullet wounds are throwing rocks at the cops. In OUR COUNTRY - AMERICA - the victims of lesser cop violence are guilty of such attrocities as holding hands, carrying signs conservatives don't like, being unarmed, and exercising their Constitutional rights.

Keep fighting for the banks and the war profiteers. Just don't be surprised when your fellow countrymen leave you behind for the immoral scum you are.
 
 
+20 # winson 2011-11-20 11:13
I don´t align up with either liberals or conservative, but what is conservative or liberal about such torture? Wake up! It is the
Banksters, politicos, establishment media, that is those in control who want more control. What is conservative about California? Obama? or UC Davis?

If RSN is alternative media, why not point your fingers at establishment media?
Personally, I vote for anarchy.
 
 
+29 # Billy Bob 2011-11-20 12:40
How do you define "conservative"?

Every definition I can think of for American "conservativism", aligns conservatives WITH banks and those who want more control.

The need of the big money interests, and the need to further control the populace in the name of "law and order", are VERY DEFINITELY CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ideals playing out.

-------------

Also, if you want "anarchy", there's plenty of it already in Africa. Better bring an arsenal to defend your food.

AMERICAN values are NOT "anarchist", and neither are yours, to tell the truth.

The only "Anarchists" involved are just paid conservatives trying to turn a non-violent liberal movement, into something to provoke violence and turn off people watching the same "establishment media" you're pointing your fingers at.
 
 
+21 # DLT999 2011-11-20 17:22
"Conservative" to me now means those want to retain rich white man's control. So the word now means FASCISM.
 
 
+38 # Alexis Fecteau 2011-11-20 11:45
So, what DO you do "when the gang wears blue"?

You watch them laugh in the face of the cameras that's what, and then watch them get away with it. Just like the trash up here in Seattle who pepper sprayed the 84 year old.
 
 
+43 # Billy Bob 2011-11-20 12:47
Well, you certainly don't win an armed conflict with them. In case you haven't noticed, they have guns too. They'd LOVE an open excuse to use them. That's why they got into cop work in the first place.

They can laugh at the cameras all they like. The British occupying military brass probably thought Gandhi was hillarious. Every PATRIOT that is sprayed or shot by rubber bullets is further proof that WE ARE WINNING and they've run out of ideas how to deal with us.

The first wave of the OWS tsunami is just now hitting the shore. This is a tidal force and a few local cops ain't gonna be able to stop it - even if they commit murder in the attempt.
 
 
+29 # bubbiesue 2011-11-20 13:55
What do you do? Read names and badge numbers, write them down or photograph them if possible, to create a case for a Grand Jury or other body.
 
 
+43 # michelle 2011-11-20 14:15
Write Gov. Jerry Brown demanding the resignation of Linda Katehi and the firing of Officer John Pike. Let them both experience some unemployment and they may understand the movement. Write an editorial for your local paper. The spraying incident is child abuse as well as assault. I'm putting support OWS on the back of every letter that goes in the mail. We need to be visible, all of us not just the occupiers. Numbers matter.
 
 
+42 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:26
The officer should be behind bars. This was simply a sadistic outburst by someone not fit to wear a badge. His kind make it a badge of dishonor. That is not fair to the majority who are doing the right thing-serving and protecting.
 
 
+21 # michelle 2011-11-20 14:25
Sign petition for Katehi's resignation here:

http://www.change.org/petitions/police-pepper-spray-peaceful-uc-davis-students-ask-chancellor-katehi-to-resign
 
 
+6 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:22
I wish I lived as close to the border as you do. I woudld be outta here right now.
 
 
+1 # Adoregon 2011-11-20 12:25
Huh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeYHYJst-tE
 
 
0 # Doubter 2011-11-24 10:35
Not exactly endearing...
 
 
+17 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:19
If the conservatives (fascists) were as small in stature as they are in principle they could stand flat-footed and kiss a gnat's derriere without bending their knees.
 
 
+5 # X Dane 2011-11-20 23:05
YES, that is exactly what you do. There will be ways of getting them one day, so prepare........ I just now heard on the news that two policemen were put on leave because of the pepper spray case.
Have patience.
 
 
+116 # tedrey 2011-11-20 09:54
'At Saturday's news conference, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said the decision to use pepper spray was made at the scene.

'"The students had encircled the officers," she said. "They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."'

These blatant lies are completely and definitively disproved by the videos. She shouldn't hold her job a day longer.
 
 
+71 # vitobonespur 2011-11-20 11:05
Quoting
'At Saturday's news conference, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said the decision to use pepper spray was made at the scene.

'"The students had encircled the officers," she said. "They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."'



This just illustrates the astonishing stupidity and arrogance of Chief Spicuzza and, I suspect, most of the 1%-ers. Does she, or they, really think people are unable to watch the videos and conclude that she's lying through her teeth? What a crock of shit!

And Chancellor Linda Katehi's referring to this travesty as "inappropriate" is like calling the Iraq War "a disagreement."
 
 
+16 # Bluesguy 2011-11-20 12:42
I would suggest that ALL the WOMEN-a majority in this country (as in many, I suppose) be asked to join together, like the "Disappeared" in S. America, Code Pink, the "Women in Black", and the many other women's groups.

We need more Dorli Rainey's, Naomi Wolf's, many other famous and also millions of mom's, daughters, sisters (all), wives, and grandmothers=the rest of us will support and PROTECT them=as a human, man, and former marine, I would like to find/figure out a way to act as their...security/support ? Please understand, I'm not looking for a fight-it is brought to us-
That may be the most powerful group we can muster; should their/our children be out there, too?

i honestly don't know; I do believe that the women would be the strongest against these group-punishment/brutalize one person ("leader") as example Nazi tactics.
I think the women could be so powerful, and/or at least we would really see the gov't's naked response, to demonstrations.
A country's good treatment of women is directly proportional to its success.
Perhaps something along the lines of "Lysistrata", on a more individual level; there are many things that can be done, or undone.
Other things are needed; there are a lot of smart people
"man smart, woman smarter" plus who is the true survivalist ?
We cannot give up; we just can't.
 
 
+2 # michelle 2011-11-20 21:19
Sadly one of the more disturbing aspects of the police brutality is their focus on brutalizing women. I don't think gender would discourage their actions. In fact, I think they would become even more brutal. Think about how long and hard they fought the idea of female police officers.

In Argentina with the Disappeared you have a very different culture (and time). Women controlled the domestic sphere of life and when they marched it was always framed as a domestic sphere situation. Women carried photos of lost and missing members of their families making it domestic rather than public sphere (political) arena. To attack the women would be to attack the division of labor by gender. Women were requesting knowledge that was rightfully theirs to request.

When I really start to worry about our situation I think about a colleague of mine in Argentina. She survived the Disappeared era and one day when discussing the USA I asked her how you survive that. She said you become unconscious about the world around you. You don't look, you don't talk, you don't think, and you never, ever notice anything. Her words haunt me.
 
 
+63 # wwway 2011-11-20 10:18
The other day someone posted on their facebook page a mocking OWS statement. They said they were going to Occupy Starbucks and demand free coffee and cake. It didn't go over very well. You see, the Bankers and Corporations have Occupied the Middle Class with social lies like: If you work hard and invest you'll have a great future. If you get a college education you will have greater earning power. If you don't make the job creators pay taxes you'll have a job. If you are favored by God you will be lucky enough to afford health care..........How have those social lies worked out for you?
Oh, Billy Bob, the Middle Easterners are well equipped with cameras. They've enjoyed better technology (European) with satelite phones 20 years ahead of American's Droid or IPhone technology. The reason you don't see their video is a result of 1) censorship gate keeping by corporate owned media and 2) uncoordinated technology on our side.
 
 
+75 # CL38 2011-11-20 10:27
"The chancellor... said she was forming a task force to investigate."

Does anyone have faith that her 'investigation' will fire both the cop who pepper sprayed students or the person who ordered the police action -- the Chancellor, herself -- for gross mishandling of this situation???
 
 
+53 # warrior woman 2011-11-20 10:53
THe person ordering the cops is in charge of the investigation? Fire her.
 
 
+56 # Timaloha 2011-11-20 10:29
If you feel like expressing your (polite?) disgust to the cop who did the spraying, here is his contact info: Lieutenant John Pike, Records Unit Manager, Phone: 530-752-3989. Cell: 530-979-0184 japikeiii@ucdav is.edu
 
 
+53 # Bejeebers 2011-11-20 10:48
Unfortunately, the above email address is already non-deliverable. Too bad. Here's a copy of my email to this thug in police clothing:

Lt. Pike,

You're the star! People all over the world have seen you in action. Doesn't that make you proud?

Unfortunately, millions of people think that your actions were entirely inappropriate and would like to see YOU held down and covered with pepper spray like you treated those that presented no risk to you.

So, why don't you should think about changing careers. You are a bully and a disgrace to the "thin blue line".

Shame on you...................
 
 
+25 # phrixus 2011-11-20 11:00
Well done.
 
 
+25 # soularddave 2011-11-20 11:30
If half a million of us decided to give Lt. Pike a jingle and politely tel him that we thought he was off-base in choosing to pepper spray the peaceful kids, would we be part of committing a "Denial of service" attack? Would that leave us open to penalty under "the new rules"?

If you get my point, you'll see that they've encircled us in a web of intangible "rules" to scare us from doing what needs to be done. Will agents find us an pepper spray us for having the temerity to get involved? I think it is worth it at this point, because more reasonable avenues of expression have been fenced off and guarded by the oppressors.
 
 
+28 # X Dane 2011-11-20 11:56
Too bad we can not all call and e-mail him. I imagine he IS getting an ear full.

These videos are unfortunately proof that we now live in a police state,
 
 
+31 # Vermonster 2011-11-20 12:47
I just tried to call him -- his voice mailbox is full, as you might imagine. Same with his cell number.

Corporations Are NOT People! Money Is NOT Speech! Reinstate Glass-Steagall!
Pro-Life is really Anti-Choice!
Social Security is NOT an entitlement, it is an EARNED BENEFIT!
 
 
+12 # michelle 2011-11-20 14:16
Brilliant and thanks. I will pass this to everyone on my email list.
 
 
+31 # CL38 2011-11-20 10:33
"events surrounding the protest have been hard on her (the chancellor) personally, but she had no plans to resign, she said."

Yes, they've been so hard on her 'personally' but she's still got to go, as well as any supervisors who condoned her actions.
 
 
+46 # pernsey 2011-11-20 10:35
I notice that conservatives only care about freedoms when they want to use them. Example: Karl Rove talking about freedom of speech, although he doesnt allow the protesters to have it, apparently he thinks its only for him?

Great post Billy Bob! Conservative like to be selective in who gets the freedoms and rights and who doesnt! They will be surprised someday...
 
 
+58 # Lolanne 2011-11-20 10:41
"The use of the pepper spray as shown on the video is chilling to us all and raises many questions about how best to handle situations like this,"
How best to handle them? How about you just allow students to exercise their rights of peaceful assembly and nonviolent protest? Is that so hard to understand? Campus police should never have been turned loose on these students!

"Nikos declined to release the identity of the officer in the video."
Gee, I wonder why! It couldn't be that they're scared shitless the parents of the students he was assaulting might sue them all, now could it? That cretin should be fired immediately and then prosecuted for assault, and I hope students' parents do indeed bring legal action against him and the entire school, especially this incompetent chancellor, for authorizing brutal police force against nonviolent students.
 
 
+51 # David Starr 2011-11-20 10:55
If the photo at the top of this article is any indication, the claim by UC Police Chief Annette Spicuzza of students encircling police, depriving them of movement is false. (Unless student onlookers did this afterwards, but as a justifiable response to the apparently unwarranted provocation by cops against the students demonstrators. Clearly, the demonstrators are sitting in merely in an act of proper civil disobidience. And of course, as is clear in the photo, a cop, w/ cold calmness, is pepper-spraying the demonstrators.
 
 
+24 # X Dane 2011-11-20 12:22
Most incredible is the fact, that there are numerous videos SHOWING precisely what is going on. We can clearly see who the criminals are, so they can be held responsible.
This is the case of, what do you believe?..... what I say,... or your own lying eyes????
It is as stupid as the politicians now running for the presidency, making statement after statement flat out contradicting what they said.... in some cases a week or so ago...when they KNOW FULL WELL that there are videos of
ALL the positions they have on a given subject.
It makes you wonder,..... certainly question not just their honesty, but also their intelligence. Do they really consider us THAT stupid?????? They KNOW that we have seen all their lies.

This is head scratching time
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2011-11-21 16:06
Some people (joeconserve comes to mind) won't be using their own eyes or their own minds when coming to decisions. The people who are trying to undermine OWS, and the repug candidates chasing each other to the bottom are RELYING on people like that.

One thing you CAN'T do is open someone else's eyes if they refuse to do it themselves.
 
 
+59 # Bejeebers 2011-11-20 11:00
What's wrong with the UC police?

Yesterday, UC Berkley Police Capt. Margo Bennett stated: "The individuals who linked arms and actively resisted, that in itself is an act of violence.”

(BTW, Merriam-Webster defines violence:
- exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse
- intense, turbulent, or furious and often destructive action or force)

Then, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza gave the following excuse for her teams violent response: "The students had encircled the officers. They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."

Both womens comments rank up right up at the top in the BS index. Both are liars and no more than pathetic puppets in the hands in the hands of their corporate masters.
 
 
+30 # Bluesguy 2011-11-20 11:34
Quoting
What's wrong with the UC police?

Yesterday, UC Berkley Police Capt. Margo Bennett stated: "The individuals who linked arms and actively resisted, that in itself is an act of violence.”


Then, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza gave the following excuse for her teams violent response: "The students had encircled the officers. They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."

Both womens comments rank up right up at the top in the BS index. Both are liars and no more than pathetic puppets in the hands in the hands of their corporate masters.

We must all understand that this is the PATRIOT ACT (thousands of pages, already written and ready within DAYS of 9/11) in actual practice, a set of "laws" that is almost entirely unconstitutiona l.
PA was passed with NO DEBATE, or anything like a national discussion.
This is why Obama has said NOTHING; he is waiting for us to realize, perhaps, and ACCEPT this Nazi behavior-many of us already practice mental self-censorship/behavior "control"=that's why some get so angry when you ask them to pay attention, comment, etc. They are ashamed, and angry at you for making them remember what they did to themselves.
So, maybe Pres. Obama should be asked="Is this the way it is to be, MR. CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR ??
 
 
+28 # Torvus 2011-11-20 11:01
Police anywhere: give 'em the tools and they'll use 'em. They just love their toys and how important and powerful they make them feel. Thing is, what will the useless politicians/authorities put in police/military sprays next? Anthrax? Ricin? Personality changers? That's one way of dealing with people who disagree with them, won't obey them, and want them OUT. The authorities are too frightened of global publicity to use bullets on protesters (yet) but you can see how magnetic the power bug is when you see the way despots hang on in the Middle East, Burma, etc. Tomorrow, the military (maybe disguised as civvies to start with). Freedom now in the US is about as real as US pizzas are vegetables.
 
 
+49 # ckingcta 2011-11-20 11:05
UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza needs to be fired immediately. The flat out lie she told about her officers being 'encircled' and using pepper spray only as a means of 'exit' shows two disturbing traits. 1. She is not above lying to protect bad behavior on the part of her officers, and 2. She is too monumentally dumb to know that there is VIDEO!!
 
 
+15 # charsjcca 2011-11-20 12:19
She is a insider. I recall that in the late 1960s there was the perception that the less power, including females, would change America if they became significantly involved. They are no different than their White power structure mates.
 
 
+10 # sandyboy 2011-11-20 11:08
Sidebar, wwway, I live in UK where we have European satellite phone technology, and, er, no, it is NOT 20 years ahead of USA iphone and droid! My BlackBerry has serious difficulty getting 3g signal and I live in London! What on earth are you on about?!
 
 
+36 # cordleycoit 2011-11-20 11:14
Police brutality is nothing new. At one time the Justice Department assigned it's agents to look after the Civil Rights of protesters. It looks like the law has been voided and the thug cops are on the rise. Police do not practice brutality on their own they do what they are ordered to do by your elected representatives . They, the representatives , then pretend shock when the police follow their orders.
 
 
+29 # DaveM 2011-11-20 11:17
"The students had encircled the officers," she said. "They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out."

So....they turned their backs on the "encircling students" and attacked people who were sitting on the ground. Perhaps if I went to college or at least the police academy this would make sense to me.
 
 
+35 # jwb110 2011-11-20 11:25
We now have Lt John Pike on film and we need to see what Linda Karehi looks like. We know the face of the people who have been brutalized. We now need to see the faces of the brutalizers.

Lets put a faces on the enemies of Democracy!

The real chilling issue is that the Chancellor of UC Davis is so damned stupid. She knew this would happen. Like a bunch of the 1% she just didn't think she woud get caught.

Shame on her!
 
 
+21 # Dave_s Not Here 2011-11-20 11:30
God-damned ignorant, mercenary thugs beating up on harmless, innocent students for MONEY! What kind of mindless thugs will do something like that just because they're told to by their bosses? Where do they find these monsters?

I would rather be dead than be one of them for ten minutes!
 
 
+26 # seeuingoa 2011-11-20 11:36
And where the Hell is President Obama in all this?

When the Constitutional Right to Demonstrate Peacefully is violated,
it is not any longer an internal state business for the mayor or governor to tackle.

It´s on Obama´s desk.
So please say something mister President.

Don´t forget that the American Constitution begins with:

" WE THE 99%..."
 
 
+37 # JayMagoo 2011-11-20 11:41
Is the pepper spray incident any different from the police in Birmingham, Alabama in the 1960s civil rights struggle using cattle prods on demonstrators? Both are totally disgusting, dehumanizing acts by the cops. Our police, using methods they learned from lessons paid for by the big Wall Street firms and the big banks, treat American citizens like inconvenient livestock to be gotten rid of. Is this America?
Does the First Amendment say we have rights, but expect to be electrocuted with cattle prods or sickened with Pepper Spray?
We are just a few short steps from what happened in Europe in the 1930s when the Nazi Party and the Italian Fascists beat up and brutalized protesters in the streets to pave the way for Hitler and Mussolini. Read your history. When a right-wing government controls the cops, this is how they deal with dissent.
 
 
+31 # giraffee2012 2011-11-20 11:46
I see no difference between this Davis' cop spraying the OWS and the mercenaries firing on Syria's people.

In the USA the use of pepper spray has rules. The mercenaries (posing as cops) have no right to spray people sitting and not attacking.

I've also seen these so called cops hold a person down and another beating them

The first use of these cops in NY were funded by the Koch brothers. Koch gave the NYPD about $1M!

Shades of the brown shirts (hired guns) ./// some of us remember the history.

On another note - get registered early with mail-in ballots (and help minorities, old, etc to get the newly required IDs)

NEVER VOTE A norquist cult member. The congress people have an obligation to their OATH of office and not to an OATH to a lobbyist!

GO WI, OH, and all who see their Koch supported Gov are not in your interests.

Call your reps and tell them you want the Supremes to get the money out of politics - i.e "person hood" is not constitutional. YOU HEAR ME: Scalia/Thomas?
 
 
+12 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:42
The bastards who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and then betray that oath taken in the name of God will all burn in hell for what they are doing or have done for the sake of money.
 
 
+6 # X Dane 2011-11-20 23:41
Giraffe, democrats do not take the Norquist oath, that is a gop diease. They go in lock-step. Thank heaven democrats, are undiciplined. It's hard to make them do anything in unison

How can we help the minorities and the seniors in the south get the required IDs when you live in California??

I heard today on a TV program that the south has been redistricted in such a way that there are only one or two white democrats left.
 
 
+29 # seeuingoa 2011-11-20 11:47
Look at these cops, anonymous behind
their helmets, their belts with all
their stuff, their batons and they are
attacking un-armed peacefully demonstrators.

Please google:
Naomi Wolf 10 steps towards fascism.
 
 
+35 # Nel 2011-11-20 11:48
Nuremberg: Personal responsibility for the pepper spraying policemen.
"I obey orders" is not an excuse for criminal act.
 
 
+32 # WhoRUKidding? 2011-11-20 11:50
And why haven't the guys who crashed the economy being pepper-sprayed and led away in handcuffs? Let's hope this outrage keeps building until something cHanges for the 99 percent. In the meantime, don't buy the junk they are selling. Speak truth to power until they get it.
 
 
+33 # lcarrier 2011-11-20 11:52
There is no way that students sitting peacefully in their quad are guilty of violence, as UC Berkeley Police Captain Margo Bennett asserted. She is too stupid to remain in her position. She needs to be fired forthwith.
 
 
+13 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:44
Not enough! Sued and jailed would be more fitting.
 
 
+18 # Dave_s Not Here 2011-11-20 11:52
What a nasty, evil thug. He'll be promoted for sure.
 
 
+24 # Bill Clements 2011-11-20 11:58
It is hard to believe, though I don't think we have definitive proof as yet (?), that these recent police "provocations" across the country aren't being orchestrated at the national level.

This incident reminds me of Kent State in which a completely unjustified use of force was used against a group of student who were a complete non-threat and whose only crime was exercising their constitutional rights.

Sorry, but I don't have a lot of faith in Katehi's "investigation." In fact, I'm not even inclined to believe her reaction to the incident. Let me say it now: nothing of significance will come of this "investigation," except perhaps complete exoneration of the police and their use of force.

As for Spicuzza, this woman needs to resign yesterday! People across the country need to demand her resignation! Is she serious? How utterly stupid does she think people are? Her version of events is completely counter to reality!
 
 
+16 # charsjcca 2011-11-20 12:13
Secrecy will get UC, Davis nowhere. The officer involved is a public employee and citizens have a right to know. Next year the person might apply for a job in your community and you have a right to know.
 
 
+12 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:47
Good point. Just like the system used for convicted sex offenders, there should be one for psychos like these who are dangerous public enemies. Something like a "least wanted list"
 
 
+21 # noitall 2011-11-20 12:20
"The use of the pepper spray as shown on the video is chilling to us all and raises many questions about how best to handle situations like this," Chancellor Linda Katehi said in a message posted on the school's web site on Saturday." "handle situations like this"..?! In a university setting, support it, enable it. In an educational setting for crap sake, encourage critical thinking and exercise of student's constitutional rights! Katehi SHOULD resign. This cliche: making it safe for all. What's that mean? Who is at risk? People hearing some truth? People sharing their ideas? People walking by? Only by the "Peace officers" are we put into jeopardy. Only by their "keeping us safe" do we get injured. Resign Katehi, you have failed your post and your students AND your part in preparing Citizens for the USA. Get the corporate job for which you now qualify. Quit society you have earned your place in "polite society".
 
 
+10 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 15:50
If one of my kids was going there I would transfer them somewhere else ASAP where their rights and health are not endangered by fascists in blue. Unless there is a house cleaning of everyone in a position of authority at UC Davis all concerned parents should consider it.
 
 
+8 # Okieangels 2011-11-20 12:25
What's to investigate??? My only question is why is Obama so silent in all this mess?
 
 
+3 # Alcuin 2011-11-20 15:28
Because he's a member of the 1%. Do some research on where he took his summer vacation. Anyone who votes for Obama next year is a masochist.
 
 
+10 # Felix Julian 2011-11-20 16:00
Quoting
What's to investigate??? My only question is why is Obama so silent in all this mess?

Why? Because his handlers have duct tape over his mouth and are telling him he's a dead man if he acknowledges what's happening in the streets of the Greatest Country in the World!
 
 
+4 # Bluesguy 2011-11-20 17:44
Quite possible, even probable; maybe telling him : "there will be no Zapruder film this time, boy"
The ruthless, amoral, murderous (it's just business, Charlie) powers that be put up mcCain/Paleo-lin and these 3rd rate carny's as pure theatric distractions/advertisers; Obama would have been impeached, at the very least, LONG AGO; if not killed, if he was unwanted in that position.
The reason he is silent/ineffective doesn't really matter very much, I think.
He still has a good opportunity to speak forcefully (though that is slipping away quickly); but, alas, he might be thinking of HIS children, instead of ours-that's what they do: FORCE horrible Hobson's choices on us; then they've already won.
 
 
+6 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 16:54
easy-he knows who pays his way. We know too. Their names are in the news all the time. They are the less than 1%.
 
 
+22 # Mtngrl 2011-11-20 12:36
"At Saturday's news conference, UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said the decision to use pepper spray was made at the scene.

'The students had encircled the officers,' she said. 'They needed to exit. They were looking to leave but were unable to get out.'

I am dumbfounded that she said this. Did she watch the video first, or ask anyone what happened? Her university police officer walked up to a line (not a circle) of seated students and sprayed them with pepper spray as casually as he might spray weed killer on his dandelions. Did they ask the students to let them out? What about the end of the film, where the students give them "a moment of peace" and let them out? Nothing at all about that statement is credible.
 
 
+11 # Alcuin 2011-11-20 15:30
Quoting
Her university police officer walked up to a line (not a circle) of seated students and sprayed them with pepper spray as casually as he might spray weed killer on his dandelions.statement is credible.


I was going to write that he might as well have been an employee of a pest control service - killing cockroaches.
 
 
+12 # Doubter 2011-11-20 12:39
And these aren't even "real" police - they just act like it!
(maybe they are bucking for a city or state job)
 
 
+8 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 16:55
I am sure the NYPD would take them instantly.
 
 
+18 # Mtngrl 2011-11-20 12:53
Does anybody really think there were legitimate sanitation and safety concerns, or that any of the crowds actually needed to be "quelled?" The homeless people that the Occupy sites have taken in and have been feeding, clothing and befriending were facing serious sanitation, health and safety concerns before, and the mayors were doing nothing about it.
 
 
+19 # TheCoyote 2011-11-20 12:53
This brought tears to my eyes. Why? Because I remembered being a part of the Free Speech Movement more than 40 years ago and being attacked by the same gangsters that attacked the students at Berkeley and Davis and elsewhere. Nothing has changed and that was what was sad. Such a waste. Back then I believed that we had sacrificed for a reason, that things had changed. But they haven't.
It's time to change the Pledge of Allegiance. We are not, and never have been, 'one nation, indivisable'. From time to time the divide is hidden, mostly when the 1% needs the 99% fight a war for them or something like that, but when we're not needed then the violence starts up again. Read the history of trade unionism in this "Land of the Free", just one example. Nothing changes and nothing will until we realize that all the ballot box liberalism in the world will never change anything fundamental in this country.
Once we could pretend to be a shining beacon; no one in the rest of the world is fooled anymore.
 
 
+10 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 17:00
I remember a prophetic issue of MAD magazine many years ago where the back cover had the pledge and it ended with"and liberty and justice for all except..." and there was a long list of races, ethnic groups, etc. How true it was but few of us thought it would become fact.
 
 
+21 # abeitling 2011-11-20 13:10
Anyone besides me wonder why has the House of Representatives decided to pass a National law regarding the right to carry concealed weapons?Why now? Is there more brewing behind closed doors that we aren't aware of? I have to wonder what the motives behind this are????
 
 
+14 # Felix Julian 2011-11-20 15:55
Absolutely- now that they've stolen our homes, murdered or disabled our kids in Iraq and Afghanistan, robbed our bank accounts and taken away our jobs- they are about to set us loose on one another. What is brewing is not pretty. This abuse by UC Berkeley cops is obscene- but I fear what is ahead is going to be far worse imho.
 
 
+7 # Bluesguy 2011-11-20 16:49
Quoting
Anyone besides me wonder why has the House of Representatives decided to pass a National law regarding the right to carry concealed weapons? Why now? Is there more brewing behind closed doors that we aren't aware of? I have to wonder what the motives behind this are????


We need to remember when the Fascist Five refused to allow a handgun control law to stand in DC, arguably one of the most dangerous cities we have (but of course mostly for the poor people)
My take on it: they want, even expect some of us to start shooting each other. That would solve 2 pesky "problems for them: 'violent" citizens subj to arrest/murder, and eternal secret prisons, PLUS CONTROL OF THE NARRATIVE.
We cannot give up.
 
 
+10 # in deo veritas 2011-11-20 17:02
They hope the law of averages will increase the likelihood of violence that will then give them the excuse to impose martial law. No one has the faintest idea of how many people are packing heat right now.
 
 
+17 # CCB5er34 2011-11-20 14:16
This is what a police state looks like. There is no difference between Egypt and here, same rotten police and military. And notice the silence of Obama and Clinton and all the rest? They are really in the 1%, regrettably. It is all disgusting, vile, and I say Never start a fight but always finish it!
 
 
+15 # daveapostles 2011-11-20 14:18
The response by the campus police authority is totally despicable.
 
 
+18 # Bluestate 2011-11-20 15:50
The righties love to tell us about the Constitution and all the freedoms we enjoy, until some group challenges the status quo, then they send in the riot squads to keep us silent.
 
 
+16 # Felix Julian 2011-11-20 15:52
What the cops did- unconscionable and just, plain stupid! What the bystanders did- same.
It appears there's a real disconnect here. Meantime, cops around the country appear to be receiving the same "marching orders" and sporting the same outfits and equipment. I hope someone grabs one of those cans of pepper spray. Bet you it says Made in Israel for Halliburton, USA.
 
 
+12 # Richard1908 2011-11-20 16:21
These graphic pictures are doing wonders for the reputation of the United States of America as the World's Greatest Democracy and the Land of the Free, let alone for your inward bound international tourism. We're all going to China instead.
 
 
+7 # Bluesguy 2011-11-20 16:43
Please observe the deliberate incorrect usage of terms, words like, say, "violence", or "safety" or "innocent" --that one really gets me; it implies that people who are not "innocent" are fair game. one of many examples.
All these are terrifyingly perfect examples of what Orwell, and beloved Noam Chomsky specifically warned us about: the insidious rewriting of language/definitions, and history.(Bush's statements were often altered within minutes, no doubt by a survivor of Winston Smith)
IMO, other American heroes/great people: Gore Vidal, Howard Zinn, Kucinich, Sanders, Lee, Waters, Grayson, police Capt. Ray Lewis, Scott Olsen, et few alia.
They did not kill MLK until he talked about war, and economic justice; he was killed supporting a labor action; and spoke his best speeches about the war, IMO.
Doublespeak is already here (pls see my above); we are starting to acquiesce to doublethink.
Like M. Moore said in Oakland, "I refuse to live in a country like this, and I'M NOT LEAVING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2011-11-21 07:48
"Like M. Moore said in Oakland, 'I refuse to live in a country like this, and I'M NOT LEAVING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!' "

THAT'S AN AWESOME QUOTE!
 
 
+5 # Paul Scott 2011-11-20 21:45
Right; the results of these self examinations always fixes the problem; however the problem never goes away. All my life no one in authority of anything has ever accepted my version of the facts on anything. And I’m supposed to accept their version of everything as gospel.

These people are surely not stupid enough to believe that we little people don’t know that the elite can and do, lie like hell; even those with badges? I’ve known that to be the fact since I started thinking for myself at somewhere between ten and fourteen.
 
 
+5 # flippancy 2011-11-21 10:14
You can't blame Obama for this. He has to deal with reality, not pie in the sky. The unconstitutiona l Patriot Act allows much of this and only congress can stop it, not him. But if you take the advice above about not voting for him you'll get one of the disgusting scumbag Republicans as president and if you thought Bush was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. The only two sane Republican candidates are Jon Huntsman and Buddy Roehmer and they have no chance.

Good cops are the barrier against evil, but bad cops ARE evil and should be imprisoned ffor their misdeeds and labelled as corrupt cops and put into the general prison population so they can get a taste of their own medicine.
 
 
+4 # Puck 2011-11-21 12:43
NYPD suspends cop who pepper sprayed 84 yr. old woman for 10 days!! WOW! Dracon lives!!
 
 
+3 # Bluesguy 2011-11-21 15:41
Quoting
NYPD suspends cop who pepper sprayed 84 yr. old woman for 10 days!! WOW! Dracon lives!!

Dorli Rainey was in Seattle; any of these SS-types being suspended is insufficient; minimum should be prosecution and real jail time.
I do appreciate the sarcasm, though. :)
UCD's Katehi refused to step down today; there was/is a huge demonstration on campus today.
The legal strategy nationwide may the best one, currently effective.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2011-11-21 16:07
The woman who was pepper sprayed in Seatle was 89.

There were TWO separate incidents involving TWO elderly women.
 
 
+3 # Bluesguy 2011-11-21 17:20
Holy shit! these bastards; getting hard to keep track, but i have faith that some good and smart people are .
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2011-11-21 19:11
The fact that that bothers you as much as it should anyone with a moral sense proves you're one those people.

The bad guys are outnumbered and they know it.
 
 
+5 # Travlinlight 2011-11-22 05:25
The UC police behavior should come as no surprise to anyone who knows the history of police/military reaction to protest movements in the USA and elsewhere. Think of Matewan, Dearborn, Amritsa, Kent State, Selma, Oxford,and on and on and on. The simple truth is that, regardless of poliical affiliation, all centers of power tend to act the same way when seriously and strongly challenged. Brute force may make some power players remorseful, but they usually tolerate it.

By the way, it is long past time to stop calling Republicans "conservatives"; by their behavior and expressed opinions it is inarguably the case that they are fascist reactionaries. We need to properly define the people who are opposing human decency, economic justice and political emancipation. Moreover, we need to accept the fact that these people will do absolutely anything to shut down protest. No degree of violent repression is off the table; it's only a matter of time and opportunity. If anyone believes this is left-wing paranoia, I would refer that person to the 1995 Chase Bank memo, re: the Chiapas uprising in Mexico. Chase told the Nexican government that they should "eliminate" the Zapatistas. That is just one example; there are many others, such as the COINTELPRO ops against the Black power groups in the 60s and 70s. Fred Hampton and Mark Clark were murdered in their beds by the FBI.
 
 
+3 # tomo 2011-11-22 10:58
Anything short of the resignation of Chancellor Katehi is unacceptable--it would be capitulation to the forces that are set to destroy what is left of democracy and freedom in America. She does not understand education. She does not understand students. She has not understood the Bill of Rights.
 

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