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Conor Friedersdorf reports: "'After warning protesters that camping at the university is illegal, officers moved in and shoved demonstrators out of the way as they pushed toward the camp,' the Contra Costa Times reported. 'Six UC Berkeley students and an associate professor were arrested; charges included resisting officers and failing to disperse.' The police succeeded in clearing away tents, but protesters refused to leave the plaza, insisting that they'd camp there with or without equipment. Protesters with smartphones took turns webcasting video from the scene, and ultimately voted around 1 am to approve a University of California-wide general strike to be held Tuesday of next week."


UC Berkeley Police Beat Students in Sproul Plaza

Conor Friedersdorf, The Atlantic

10 November 11

 

Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns

 

he unarmed 'Occupy Cal' protesters were ousted from their encampment late Wednesday, but regrouped for a mass rally and sit-in.

In iconic Sproul Plaza, many hundreds or perhaps thousands of UC Berkeley students and Occupy Oakland activists clashed with university police late into the night Wednesday, after officers carried out instructions from administrators to clear Occupy Cal protesters from their makeshift encampment. "We formed a human barricade around our tents, and they just beat their way through it with batons," said one student. "It really, really hurt - I got the wind knocked out of me," another protester, doctoral student Shane Boyle, told the San Francisco Chronicle, showing the reporter a red welt on his chest. "I was lucky I only got hit twice," he added.

"After warning protesters that camping at the university is illegal, officers moved in and shoved demonstrators out of the way as they pushed toward the camp," the Contra Costa Times reported. "Six UC Berkeley students and an associate professor were arrested; charges included resisting officers and failing to disperse." The police succeeded in clearing away tents, but protesters refused to leave the plaza, insisting that they'd camp there with or without equipment. Protesters with smartphones took turns webcasting video from the scene, and ultimately voted around 1 am to approve a University of California-wide general strike to be held Tuesday of next week.

It took a couple hours to settle on that plan. Around 11:30 pm, students were massed in the plaza shouting at perhaps a couple hundred officers.

Quoth one chant, "Your families will see this."

Only afterward did they begin deliberating en masse.

The scene played out in a space most famous as ground zero during the 1964 Free Speech Movement. Sproul Plaza has since seen anti-Vietnam War sit-ins, anti-apartheid rallies, anti-Iraq War protests, and any number of smaller activist gatherings. A stroll through the plaza on an average day when school is in session is as colorful a scene as there is on campus, as student groups advertise, activists hand out leaflets, and nearby drum circles beat away.

The Daily Cal explains what precipitated the day's events:

The campuswide day of action in support of affordable higher education and the Occupy movement has grown throughout the day to over a thousand students at its peak in the early afternoon, from teach-outs in the morning to a noontime rally that was attended by about 1,000 people.

The protest activities thus far have mirrored past protests with teach-outs and a rally on Sproul Plaza, but in addition to a focus on state budget cuts and the affordability of higher education, the protest has strongly identified with the national Occupy movement and included a march to Bank of America on Telegraph Avenue.

The video at the top of this post captures a violent clash that occurred earlier in the day, when police aggressively pummeled student protesters with their batons. Said Matt Welch, editor of Reason magazine, "Watch cops at Occupy Berkeley launch coordinated baton attack against unarmed students."

As midnight approached, police were summoning reinforcements as protesters chanted, "The chancellor took our tents, but look, we took the plaza." Said another speaker: "Police are not our enemy in this fight. We must above all remain peaceful." The "human microphone" was later seized by an OWS ally from across the bay. "Occupy SF has brought some wifi," he said. "If you want the password come up here - I can't give it to everyone including the police." Activists live-streaming from the scene at midnight claimed around 10,000 viewers as one protester after another began calling for a University of California-wide all student strike. The proposal was debated via the human microphone, and ultimately passed with 569 in favor and 31 against.

One observer estimated that about half the people present participated in the vote.

In related news, The Oakland Tribune reported the following just before Wednesday's events:

Citing excessive force and free speech violations by police during protests in Oakland and at UC Berkeley, the Berkeley City Council this week refused a mutual aid agreement with university police and nixed agreements with other police agencies on regional domestic surveillance. Council members used news reports of police using excessive force at the Occupy Oakland protests and at previous protests at UC Berkeley as reason for not renewing the agreements that usually are approved each year without fanfare.

In addition, the council did not renew an agreement with the federal government on detaining illegal immigrants at the city jail. The 8-0 vote, with Mayor Tom Bates abstaining, means the council will revisit those agreements at a later date after scrutinizing them more thoroughly.

University of California campuses are patrolled by state police officers.

 

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+59 # pernsey 2011-11-10 09:00
This video literally brought tears to my eyes...this is America...what happened to us?
 
 
+37 # Ryguy913 2011-11-10 11:13
I appreciate your empathy and sadness, but this isn't anything new. This sort of thing has been happening for decades, at least. And much worse....think civil rights hoses and dogs, or union-busting murders like the 1913 massacre in Calumet, Michigan immortalized by Arlo Guthrie's song.
 
 
+11 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:18
Sadly yes, the real problem is the type of people hired as police, they have a low IQ compared to the rest of us, and the reason is, that is who they want, men who will obey orders no matter what!
 
 
+19 # NOMINAE 2011-11-10 19:16
Quoting
..... the real problem is the type of people hired as police, they have a low IQ compared to the rest of us .....


You make their day, "John". They have successfully "changed the subject". You are now focused on a useless blanket-statement speculation of the relative intelligence of policemen rather than upon the corporate depredations against this country and it's constitution which *are* the "real problem".

Don't kid yourself. Policemen are not "all stupid". You wish it were all that simple. It is not. They are not. Nor are they by any stretch of the imagination the "real problem". They are simply a symptom. They are a tactic. They are sent in for one reason. To steal the focus. To change the dialogue. A quick glance at this comment board attests to their success with this strategy.

To rob a house, a burglar may throw raw meat over the fence to distract the guard dogs. While the dogs gorge themselves, the burglar sneaks by and robs the house unnoticed. This is known as a "red-meat" strategy, or, in politics, a "red-meat" issue.

Take a quick gander at this posting page to see how many guards fell for the "red-meat" ploy. Cops are the distraction.

"The price of peace is eternal vigilance."
 
 
+8 # Vegan_Girl 2011-11-11 04:21
What makes me hopeful is that now with the smartphones we are actually watching it all. I think it will be harder for them to discredit the truth, and so this time we may win.
 
 
+2 # Nerkster 2011-11-11 22:14
Ryguy, thank you for referencing the protest ballad "1913 Massacre" written in 1941 by the legendary Woody Guthrie, (father of the modern folk movement and of Arlo). In that case, allegedly, copper mine 'thugs,'working for management, blocked the doors of a Christmas eve party held by striking miners -- then yelled 'fire,' and watched children trampled to death at the bottom of the stairs.
 
 
+20 # Capn Canard 2011-11-10 12:10
Money and Corporatism is fully in charge. They like law and order and will maintain that fantasy with violence if necessary.
 
 
+8 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:19
That has been demonstarted time and time again
 
 
+19 # ER444 2011-11-10 13:34
I personally witnessed the fall of the Berlin Wall exactly on the 9th of November 1989. Nothing like this happened there on this momentous day. The police and the Military stood at the end on the side of "the people". Shame, shame, shame!!!
 
 
+13 # Pickwicky 2011-11-10 13:44
I've walked across Sproul Plaza many times listening to the echoes of all the protests that took place over the years--some of them I participated in. I'm glad to see Berkeley students join the 'Occupy' protests--even though police brutality raises its ugly baton. In these cases, the police help the stucents' cause.
 
 
+22 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:21
The police violence is the cause of the movement gaining such momentum so quickly, these fools will never learn the public will not put up with violence against peaceful protestors...they have already lost, when they became violent they lost...
 
 
+7 # NOMINAE 2011-11-10 19:22
Quoting
The police violence is the cause of the movement gaining such momentum so quickly, these fools will never learn the public will not put up with violence against peaceful protestors...they have already lost, when they became violent they lost...


Totally agree. Police violence in this context is the System's own Achille's Heel. Kudos to the the truly courageous people who met this violence only with peaceful protest. This response, as "John Locke" observes, is the public's strongest weapon. Look how literally it placed Oakland on the OWS "map" overnight !
 
 
+20 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:16
Its always been like this Remember Kent State in 1970 the difference they used real bullets then against unarmed students
 
 
+8 # Blackjacque 2011-11-10 17:36
Quoting
This video literally brought tears to my eyes...this is America...what happened to us?


We were sleeping in our comfortable ignorance...
 
 
+10 # gt66 2011-11-11 09:34
@pernsey: This has been the American status quo from the beginning. From the plight of the Native Americans, to the unionizing efforts of the 30s, to anti-war demonstrations of the 60s to the class protests of today, the power brokers of this country have ALWAYS shown a willingness to smash in skulls and kill rather than abrogate their power at the demands of the people.

The strategies have been obvious: in the colder climates, the OWS prtesters are being tolerated with the idea that they'll be frozen out over the winter months and then lose interest. In the warmer climates where OWS protesters will not face a winter freeze out, violent suppression of rights is the order of the day. Again, for the power brokers of this country, smashing skulls is far preferable to listening to the people.
 
 
+47 # Guy 2011-11-10 09:49
And they call this freedom ?Freedom to oppress innocent people is what it is.
To the students ,you are the victors,for you expose the darkness for what it is.
 
 
+12 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:21
YES!!!!
 
 
+19 # GA_Kennedy 2011-11-10 09:57
You say "this is America...what happened to us?" This America has always existed; it is just that you are now the victim of the kind of force that many in this country have been complaining about for decades. Yes, this is America! It needs to be changed.
 
 
+42 # Barkingcarpet 2011-11-10 10:05
Let's hear it for the youth eh? Everyone else has sold out...... Complacent consumers are us. Meanwhile, nature is tanking, and we are being robbed by corporate and political goons.

It is past time for us to "alter or abolish" our corrupt system.

Land of the free? Only if you believe in and focus on money and $ profits at the expense of nature, life, and the future.
 
 
+9 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:22
It is past time for us to "alter or abolish" our corrupt system.

sadly yes!!!!!
 
 
+43 # noitall 2011-11-10 10:33
Cops are cowards! Hitting people they know can't hit back. COWARDS!! I don't care what their job is. What is the difference between these and other thug, who pays them? Lets see the faces of those paying them. Show us your face!
 
 
+10 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:25
if OWS or the students can post the COPS photo on the net with their home address, that would be a good start...actually they should post all of the police photos and home addresses on the web...
 
 
+36 # humanmancalvin 2011-11-10 10:48
This video of the police using excessive & brutal violence belongs to a 3rd world dictatorship & not the United States of America. The whole world is watching & laughing with mockery as this so-called democratic nation is anything but.
 
 
+18 # goodsensecynic 2011-11-10 11:32
Don't be so hard on 3rd World dictatorships. It wasn't their fault. They were organized, instructed and supported by the CIA.

Remember: A 'Banana Republic' is one that was owned and controlled by the United Fruit Company - later Chiquita.

They were all as American as ... Chiquita Bananas, to say nothing of the Frito Bandito. (Yes, thats right: just as Coca-Cola was instrumental on overthrowing the democratically elected Arbenz government in Guatemala in 1954, so also Pepsico colluded in the coup against the democratically elected Allende government in Chile in 1973.

Of course, under Bush and Obama, when the democratically elected Aristide government was thrown out of Haiti in 2004 and when the Zelaya government in Honduras was ousted by a military coup in 2009, fewer people were actually tortured and killed.
 
 
+9 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:29
we kill more in America now...look at our death penalty record, we kill innocent people, and imprison innocent people Jeffry McDonald anyone remember him?
 
 
+6 # goodsensecynic 2011-11-11 09:54
By these lights Rick Perry is now the prolific serial killer in America, having recently overtaken George W. Bush.

Oops!
 
 
+11 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:27
We are surely being laughed at by the Muslem people, we allegedly wanted to bring them our form of democracy, when in reality we do not live under a democracy
 
 
+33 # NanFan 2011-11-10 10:52
This video brought tears to my eyes, too, for the cowardly cops, hiding behind riot gear, and using their batons to beat unarmed students who DID NOT even fight back OR back down.

I am proud of this group of fearless youths, who took the beatings, stood tall, and by their actions -- non-violent resistance -- drove the police away. To see the armed police, at first beating, and then, realizing they were not going anywhere with that tactic, scurrying behind bushes to GET AWAY from the chanting group of students...well...that showed the world who they really are: Cowards with armor and weapons, brutally fighting the people whose right it is to peacefully dissent, speak out against injustices.

Stand tall, Occupiers!

THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA.

Nan
 
 
+6 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:29
Amen to that
 
 
+21 # jwb110 2011-11-10 10:59
Does anyone remember the debacle of Mario Savio and UC Berkeley and Gov. Ronald Reagan? I do and this looks the same. The nation needs to understand that the upstate constituants in CA are like the upstate constituants in NY. They are very very conservative and I am sure it is reflected in the administrators at Berkley.
The entire state of CA should get behind these men and women at UC Berkeley and correct the suppression of free speech from the Gov reagan years that got us where we are today.
This is the ultimate opportunity to correct course for the nation. To get us back to a Democracy that has been stolen from us.
 
 
+8 # NanFan 2011-11-10 15:10
Yes, I remember this well, and have taught with the documentary film "Berkeley in the 60s" for years.

It behooves all of us to look back as we move forward, for therein lies the greatest lessons.

Nan
 
 
+22 # Buddha 2011-11-10 11:02
When I was in college (UCSD) in 1985, we "occupied" the steps of the library in protest to get the UC system to divest from apartheid South Africa. We weren't harrassed, we weren't beaten. And we eventually prevailed. But in today's post-Patriot Act / Homeland Security Police State we allowed to be created in our ignorant fear, our 1st Amendment rights no longer exist. "Camping" isn't the same thing as an occuption protest, the latter which should be a right endowed by our Creater through the Constitution's 1st Amendment. Anybody read anywhere in the 1st Amendment that protest and peaceful assembly is only allowed during daylight hours or that it can't be continuous or that it needs a permit? I hope Ghandi was right, that as long as these PEACEFUL (keep them peaceful folks, no matter the provocation) are actively fought against by the Police State, that public opinion will continue to shift in our favor and these protests will grow!
 
 
+8 # Capn Canard 2011-11-10 12:16
Buddha, I too remember the days of protest against Apartheid in South Africa but we were protesting South Africa and not America. The point being that in our time the Administration wasn't the target of our protests.
 
 
+6 # Buddha 2011-11-10 19:17
I don't see us as protesting America, I see us protesting the corrupt Corporatocratic system that controls political power and policy in America.
 
 
+25 # Richard Raznikov 2011-11-10 11:10
forty-eight years ago, I was one of those who massed in Sproul Plaza and took Sproul Hall in the Free Speech Movement. Then, as now, the University Regents and administration tried to stifle dissent and shut the students up. They miscalculated. Maybe they are miscalculating again. To the students of U.C.: it's YOUR school, your system, and your country. Your reclaiming of the plaza and the campus is supported by friends all over the world. When you stand up for yourselves, you are standing up for a better country. Power to the people.
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:31
Yes the 99% have the power, they only need to realize it, the 1% lives in fear of us...
 
 
+15 # seeuingoa 2011-11-10 11:11
The problem with policemen is
that they take too many orders.

COME ON !
WAKE UP !

start thinking yourselves.
 
 
+6 # josephhill 2011-11-10 16:23
Quoting
The problem with policemen is
that they take too many orders.

COME ON !
WAKE UP !

start thinking yourselves.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dear Police (at least, those w/ a conscience),
Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right. "Just doing my job" doesn't cut it, anymore than "Just following orders."
PEACE,
JH
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:32
they have to be able to think..their average IQ is 100, thats for real,
 
 
-28 # Inland Jim 2011-11-10 11:11
Damn kids! They should go to Penn State and show their support for sexual predators.
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:32
Inland Jim, is that where you seasrch for little boys?
 
 
+16 # Vardoz 2011-11-10 11:17
This is not who we are supposed to be! Everyone knows these are peaceful protesters. We should expect more of this becasue our Democracy is broken and this is what we are fighting for. A natiion that is moral and is of the people, for the people and by the people.
 
 
+13 # Bobbybobby 2011-11-10 11:30
To any police officers watching this. Be careful what you do. Your actions are more frequently being caught on film and being put on line.
People want peace not violence and those officers who are violent probably need a pay check.
Time to change your criminal ways and lies.
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:35
they think by destroying tapes and lying they can get away with their tough guy gun fetish, that won't work, too many witnesses... the police have an attitude, its them against us....they still don't get it... they are part of what this movement is fighting for
 
 
+16 # nancyw 2011-11-10 11:38
I don't even know why police are called in. No one was causing any trouble and rallies are legal, aren't they? Free speech, too. The UC Berkeley chancellors or president or deans should have been there for a dialogue.

Police arrive only to make a menacing presence and are mostly the ones who start violence, not the protesters.

Who is handling these issues? or who is NOT handling these issues? It's all so caveman on the part of our institutions.
 
 
+11 # giraffee2012 2011-11-10 11:54
WE, the people, pay for these militant police. The UC officials (Regents) are taking advantage of the "rich getting richer" with the help of our government "being paid off" for these power struggles.

It may take awhile but reform can only come from these "demonstrations" (occupys) -- There is absolutely no reason why these big Universities cannot use the endowments they are given and "KEEP TO MAKE $ on by ...."

Be sure to vote 2012 - the most important election to date. Vote Democrat. Vote Obama. NEVER vote for a GOP/TP who will (and have proven) they will take away more. Register early (& help the minorities, old, young, etc register) and everyone GET MAIL-IN Ballots because we've been told by the GOP/TP that voter suppression will spring up and be used in Dem districts.

Write your congressman - to be sure that if the TAX code is not modified - they will lose your vote. Enough of the 1% getting away with "Murder of Democracy" (etc)
 
 
+6 # josephhill 2011-11-10 16:30
"Vote Democrat. Vote Obama."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

...as if the Dems or Obama is going to help! Dream on, sheeple, the Dems and Obama ARE a part of the Establishment. Both major parties feed at the same corporate trough. A plague on BOTH these parties!
 
 
+5 # Okieangels 2011-11-10 17:25
Vote Green!!!
 
 
+1 # chick 2011-11-10 19:46
Well we think they will bring our country back. They will create jobs unlike the repubgs.
They will honor a womans right to her own body,
They will allow unions.
They will help the middle class and poor.

The Repugs have show who they will help the rich and the corporations.

We have to get rid of all those repugs and those blue dogs who never really gave the Dems a majority.

Vote Democrat they have always listened to the people. The repugs have always listened to the wealthy.

Vote Democrat vote Obama, maybe if he gets a strong Demcratic Congress he will show you where he stands.
 
 
+4 # Michael_K 2011-11-11 11:24
No, let's NOT vote O'Bama! Let's have a Democratic Primary and run a REAL Democratic candidate!
 
 
+11 # Capn Canard 2011-11-10 12:05
NAZIs
 
 
+2 # in deo veritas 2011-11-11 11:07
You have described the oligarchs correctly within a word. Surprsed they haven't worn their swastika armbands yet. Likely if they win they will expect us to pay for ours and shoot us if we don't wear them.
 
 
+16 # daveapostles 2011-11-10 12:22
This land is YOUR land. You have to take it back. Otherwise, the whole world will pay. You have to become that beacon on the hill again.
Wishing you well from the UK.
 
 
+4 # goodsensecynic 2011-11-10 13:23
While I sympathize with the desire to take your country back, I hope you don't get too full of yourselves.

The "whole world" would be happier if you'd all just shut up about America for a while. Being that "beacon on the hill" is all very well, but it seems mainly to inflame Americans and motivate your people (and your soldiers) to run around the world spreading freedom and democracy and market economics. You'll forgive me if I ask you that all that has turned out.

Instead, I urge you to attend to one of your better detective novelists, Kinky Friedman (also lead singer of the country & western band, "The Texas Jewboys"). In his book, "The Love Song of J. Edgar Hoover," he let it be known that the quest for the shining city was finally achieved and, when the people got there, all they found was Joan of Arc with her hair on fire.

A little less messianism and a little more modesty would help us all.
 
 
+3 # chick 2011-11-10 19:49
I agree with you as far as the Ugly American, braggard.

But you sound complacent and fed well. You can sit back and just take it easy, but, there are too many americans with empty stomach's and no homes, we cannot "take it easy"
 
 
+2 # goodsensecynic 2011-11-11 10:03
Methinks you missed my point. I am all for US society reforming itself. I just worry when reformers no less than reactionaries see themselves as setting an inspiring example to the world.

The myth of America as the embodiment of the hope of humanity is a cruel joke. Don't take it easy. Expose the corporrate kleptocracy for what it is. Take care of the inequities of class, race and gender, but please forego the rhetoric of American exceptionalism.

As a non-American living outside your republic, I worry whenever I hear voices overbrimming with "change you can believe in." Too often it's just a cover for the same old exploitation.
 
 
+3 # goodsensecynic 2011-11-11 10:06
Incidentally, the "ugly American" of the Burdick/Lederer novel and the Brando film was NOT a braggard. He was "physically" ugly but morally pure. He was an NGO worker trying to assist the poor and oppressed of the fictional southeast Asian countrY of "Sarkham," and was the true hero of that story.
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:36
Thank you, you are in this fight as well...
 
 
+20 # Barbara K 2011-11-10 12:42
These cops in riot gear who are beating unarmed kids doing their constitutional right to protest what has happened to this country. These kids do not deserved to be beaten and I hope they are filing charges against the assault and battery being done to them. This is not the American Way.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
 
 
+10 # mwd870 2011-11-10 14:48
What the police were doing was not the American way. However, it is a good sign (if believable), the police actions had consequences:

"Citing excessive force and free speech violations by police during protests in Oakland and at UC Berkeley, the Berkeley City Council this week refused a mutual aid agreement with university police and nixed agreements with other police agencies on regional domestic surveillance. Council members used news reports of police using excessive force at the Occupy Oakland protests and at previous protests at UC Berkeley as reason for not renewing the agreements that usually are approved each year without fanfare.

In addition, the council did not renew an agreement with the federal government on detaining illegal immigrants at the city jail. The 8-0 vote, with Mayor Tom Bates abstaining, means the council will revisit those agreements at a later date after scrutinizing them more thoroughly."

The barbarians are not going to win.
 
 
+9 # Barbara K 2011-11-10 15:23
Great news, mwd870, thanks for posting the info. We will not allow the barbarians to win. Power to the people.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN
 
 
+7 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:38
the moment they became violent they lost...
 
 
+6 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:39
There is no way to stop a movement whose time has come...
 
 
+8 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:37
Sadly Barbara do you really believe it makes any difference whether its a democrat or republican, both sides are owned lock stock and barrel by the Banks
 
 
0 # chick 2011-11-10 19:53
I am with Barbara and I do believe a strong Democratic Government will help the middle class and poor. They have always stood up for the people.

Evey good law that has been put in was started by and passed by the Democrats.

The Republicans have given us zilch.

We did not have a majority last time with too many blue dogs but if we really have one next time you will see the difference.
 
 
+3 # Michael_K 2011-11-11 11:29
Quoting
These cops in riot gear who are beating unarmed kids doing their constitutional right to protest what has happened to this country. These kids do not deserved to be beaten and I hope they are filing charges against the assault and battery being done to them. This is not the American Way.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!



You're right, it isn't the American Way - in theory! In reality, it has always been so, and right now it's happening with the blessing of your sainted pseudo-Democrat O'Bama. I don't see Dick Cheney's cousin going on TV to denounce these violent violations of the First Amendment?
 
 
-33 # Robt Eagle 2011-11-10 12:58
Frankly, the police in this video used their clubs against unarmed children...as best as one may infer from the video. I believe these protesters should be left alone to waste their parents hard earned money as they protest against corporate America, who their parents earned money to send their fool hardy children to higher education schools. Eventually when the parents realize that their ungrateful kids are wasting time and energy (going after the wrong people, they should go after Obama and his followers)...well these kids might just find out what it is like to not have food or a comfy place to live. By the way Capn Canard, not everything is related to Germany and their ill fated philosophy back in the 30 and 40's. Please get a life Capn.
 
 
+16 # Todd Williams 2011-11-10 14:18
You sir, are obviously a 1%er. I heard your same old line of drivel during the Vietnam War. It hasn't changed one iota. You are that one who needs to get a life, not the Capn.
 
 
+22 # Todd Williams 2011-11-10 14:27
And another thing sir, did you ever stop for one moment to think where these kids get their money for tuition? No. I bet you every wrinkle on your old red neck that they are borrowed up to the hilt to attend Berkley. I doubt very much that many of their parents paid the whole cost. If my son was at Berkley and protesting, I would be so very proud of him. Right on students, go for it!!!!!!
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2011-11-10 16:40
I agree Todd
 
 
+13 # Todd Williams 2011-11-10 13:19
This blows my mind. Dig it: Occupiers are demonstrating, in part, to support union rights including those of the police. Then the police are beating students who are protesting to help unions (including the police). Weird! Par the course. They just never change, do they? PIGGIES!
 
 
+2 # Michael_K 2011-11-11 11:31
Zey are chust obeying ze orders!
 
 
+15 # Kayjay 2011-11-10 13:25
This is the home of the free? I know it's been cited in previous posts. But I am still amazed and saddened that this nation seemingly finds any excuse to squelch our freedom of speech. Peaceful dissent was supposed to be the backbone of our democracy at one time. I guess those rights don't jive with our nation's corporate agenda. As per the cops in Berkeley, I am not surprised by their actions. As a group, university police are the little leaguers of law enforcement. They are police wannabes....looking to notch their belt. They believe everyone is a scumbag and cannot wait to swing their batons.
 
 
+4 # NOMINAE 2011-11-10 19:38
@ Kayjay -

Quoting from the article .... last sentence ... "University of California campuses are patrolled by state police officers."

These are not campus rent-a-cops. Helps to read the article before issuing comment on the article.

So, the fact that these *are* professionally trained and taxpayer funded police forces makes their actions all the more outrageous. They are *not* untrained "police wannabes", even tho I must agree that they certainly seem to be acting as such.
 
 
+17 # bobby t. 2011-11-10 14:21
the kids were protesting against the high cost of higher education. they should! in countries like sweden, denmark, and norway, the kids go to all universities for free. paid for by tax dollars. free medicine and doctors, and in norway, a free vacation in the winter in south america to combat depression caused by lack of sunlight. they are human beings and treat everyone like a human being. we have a lot to learn.
kids should not be starting out with huge college debt, not should people become bankrupt because of illnesses. anyone who supports this form of capitalism and taxation is evil.
 
 
+9 # DaveM 2011-11-10 16:24
I seem to recall that there have been protests at Berkeley before. Surely after more than 40 years, the police should know better than to assault unarmed people who are doing nothing but standing in a public space. If the numbers give here are accurate, there was one police officer for every five protesters. Is this honestly the best use the city or state has for 200 police? Surely there must be some crime they be preventing or solving.
 
 
+7 # Bodiotoo 2011-11-10 17:48
"serve and protect" is no longer the motto of the PDs...they are an arm of
Homeland Security"...(doesn't that just sound facist?)...military trqaining and they will kill those of us that stand up peacefully to thier authority.
 
 
+5 # futhark 2011-11-10 23:33
Real security comes with awareness, a sense of fairness, and the ability to express oneself coherently. Intimidation tactics just ratchet up hostility, leading to violence and insecurity.

I'm a Cal Berkeley alumnus from back in the days when Reagan was governor and am a veteran of many end-the-Vietnam-war demonstrations. I'm glad to see the current generation of Bears standing up for their constitutional, civil, and human rights.
 
 
+2 # in deo veritas 2011-11-11 11:03
You are likely dealing with the grandsons of the same Nixon regime minions who assaulted antiwar protestors at Berkeley back in the 60's. Same fascist mindset based on basic instincts to violence rather than any degree of mentality.
 
 
+6 # Joseph C. Carbone III 2011-11-11 13:13
They are the arm of the corporations. The police who beat on us, they do it at the call of corporations, overthrowing freedom. Read the Constitution and understand what these criminals are doing. They genuinely hate our freedom, they use their power to usurp authority over the document that governs them, and they are unlawful servants who have no regard for the citizenry.

Sincerely,
Joseph C. Carbone III [2 of 2]
 
 
+3 # Joseph C. Carbone III 2011-11-11 13:14
11 November 2011

I was encouraged when Jerry Brown took governorship of our state, California.

No encouragement anymore, with the likes of Gov. Brown and Atty. Gen. Harris, we suffer even more injustice.

When police officers brutally attacked citizens, and the brutalization is public knowledge, and Gov. Brown as well as Atty. Gen. Harris brazenly both do nothing, they are criminals; this is identical to Gov. of Wisconsin, Scott Walker, blatantly breaking the law, and instead of demanding custody of the man, the community of Wisconsin suffers him until a recall is permitted; really!

These political criminals would have us believe, because they are connected, they can do anything. This problem is the same when we, the United States people, except that Pres. Obama's authority grants him an arbitrary ability to ignore Bush's criminality. Who promises to go to work, does not work, and is paid?

These criminal elements in our police force, from their chief's, to our representatives that do nothing about them, to legislature and governors who pass anti-constitutional measures, which are actually illegal, must not be tolerated. [1 of 2]
 

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