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The report begins: "The millions of sardines that were found floating dead in a Southern California marina this week tested positive for a powerful neurotoxin, researchers said Friday."

Dead sardines cover the water's surface at the Redondo Beach marina in Southern California, 03/08/11. (photo: Reuters)
Dead sardines cover the water's surface at the Redondo Beach marina in Southern California, 03/08/11. (photo: Reuters)



Neurotoxin Found in Dead Fish at LA Area Harbor

By Associated Press

13 March 11

 

he millions of sardines that were found floating dead in a Southern California marina this week tested positive for a powerful neurotoxin, researchers said Friday.

High levels of domoic acid were found in the sardines, which may have distressed them off the Los Angeles coastline and caused them to swim into the Redondo Beach marina, University of Southern California biologist David Caron wrote in a summary of his laboratory's findings which were reported by the Los Angeles Times.

Caron said that he still believes that critically low oxygen levels in the water caused the sardines to suffocate, but it's possible the toxin may have been one explanation for why they crowded into the marina.

The California Department of Fish and Game has blamed the die-off on oxygen deprivation and is also testing fish for toxins at its animal forensics laboratory. Results are not expected until next week.

Domoic acid is often found in the stomach of fish that have been feeding on plankton during toxic algae blooms. The toxin has been linked to neurological disorders, illnesses and deaths in seabirds, sea lions, sea otters and whales.

Caron's lab is working to determine if the poisoning was caused by a toxic algae bloom spotted off Redondo Beach on Wednesday.

The presence of the toxin in the sardines could lead to health complications for pelicans, gulls and other sea life that have been feasting on the dead fish.

"There were tons of birds feeding on these fish and it's conceivable that we'll see some bird mortality as a result," Caron said.

The fish died late Monday and carpeted the water's surface the next morning, stacking up to 2 feet deep in some places. Crews have already scooped and hauled away more than 85 tons of fish to a composting center where they will turn into fertilizer.

 

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+46 # Bodoc 2011-03-13 10:01
"Crews have already scooped and hauled away more than 85 tons of fish to a composting center where they will turn into fertilizer."

And that fertilizer will put neurotoxins into the plants we eat.

Brilliant!!!
 
 
+18 # propsguy 2011-03-13 10:27
hmmm, i wonder if that neurotoxin breaks down in composting
 
 
+23 # Sheila Cook 2011-03-13 10:40
The last sentence in this article worries me. "Crews have already scooped and hauled away more than 85 tons of fish to a composting center where they will turn into fertilizer."

If the fish died of toxins and they will be turned into fertilizer, won't that contaminate the ground and the food that is grown in it?
 
 
+5 # Texas Aggie 2011-03-13 20:27
No, it won't. Domoic acid is biodegradable unlike many synthetic compounds. So composting would degrade most of it and anything left would disappear in the ground after being applied as fertilizer. Even if you put pure domoic acid in the ground next to a plant, there is little likelihood that it would be absorbed intact and then stay unmetabolized in the fruit or seeds of the plant.
 
 
+2 # Gary Ray Pierson 2011-03-14 07:42
Quoting
No, it won't. Domoic acid is biodegradable unlike many synthetic compounds. So composting would degrade most of it and anything left would disappear in the ground after being applied as fertilizer. Even if you put pure domoic acid in the ground next to a plant, there is little likelihood that it would be absorbed intact and then stay unmetabolized in the fruit or seeds of the plant.

Leave it to an Aggie.. Just look up Neurotoxin's on Wiki and remember the dude the news hardly talked about, found in a dumpster.. He was going to tell on a company. Joseph p. Wheeler III.. It's what you don't know that gets ya.. It's what you ignore that kills ya... So, just ignore all of this and it will go away.. Sure thing. Formally, Cpl. Pierson 101st Airborne, Vietnam
 
 
+4 # billy bob 2011-03-13 11:02
NO!

Climate change is all in our heads!!!
 
 
+1 # Gary Ray Pierson 2011-03-14 07:45
Quoting
NO!

Climate change is all in our heads!!!

We have heads?? What's in them?? Do we use what ever it is?? Of course not.. If it's not effecting you. We don't worrying then do we? C0l. Pierson, 101 Airborne, & Son of the American Revolution. Are we really going to start having to use our own minds?? Oh no Mr. Bill!
 
 
+13 # Jo Sippie-Gora 2011-03-13 11:08
Hauled to a composting center? No chance of passing any threat to the fertilizer?
 
 
+10 # Lakshmi 2011-03-13 12:18
I'm so glad to see that each and every comment has raised the red flag to precisely what I felt when I read this. WHAT are they thinking?
 
 
+3 # sallyb36 2011-03-13 11:39
My brain is like an echo-chamber. I had your thoughtful concerns about using the toxic fish in fertilizer. Either I'm not alone or my brain is working overtime and repeatedly stuck on that concern.
 
 
+16 # billy bob 2011-03-13 11:42
I'm not sure, but I think the neurotoxins they're refering to are naturally occuring ones found in algae. When composted they'd become as harmless as compost made by any other plant with some toxin to protect it from being overgrazed.

The real problem here isn't the neurotoxins. It's the fact that these fish are dying from eating algae that have gotten out of control, because that's what happens when water doesn't have enough oxygen in it. The lack of oxygen is another sign of global warming that is causing these dead zones all over the ocean. It's basically the same thing that happens in an aquarium with exotic fish and a filter that isn't working properly. You wouldn't want to drink that water, but it would be safe to put in your garden.

In other words, the neurotoxin is just a symptom of the real disaster. I don't think they pose a threat to the soil. I think they'll break down easily, like other plant material. On the other hand, what does this say about eating fish?

Like I said, I'm not sure about any of this. I could be wrong. I'm no expert, so don't think I'm trying to correct any of you. Sometimes it appears that the "experts" aren't experts either when it comes to dealing with the environmental impact of human polution. That's why repugs pretend there is no impact.
 
 
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2011-03-13 12:57
Could have ended up in cat food and dog food, animal food. These animals may not have been able to break it down.
I am sure the Union of Concerned Scientists will have information.

Problem is if it is contaminated waste...how will we be able to trace it to where it is used? Industry does not care now what it uses, FDA certainly is not upholding any Laws. Hope RSN does a follow up.
 
 
+21 # CL38 2011-03-13 13:07
The problem with our Republican new world- corporate-special-interest order is we can never trust that we're told the truth about causes, consequences, what's being done to investigate and that waste is truly handled responsibly.
 
 
+8 # drowningnotwaving 2011-03-13 15:43
You are absolutely right.
 
 
+21 # ritaague 2011-03-13 15:37
I'd like to add, in response to billy bob, that far too often, regulations have been thrown into the toilet, as to not interfere ever with our greed and power addicted rulers' ability to maintain total power and roll in their billions.

A good friend of a friend of mine was head litigator for the E.P.A.. An extremely bright, real McCoy expert, she for years pulled her hair out in utter frustration as she was barred from enforcing the aforementioned regulations.

So, yes indeed there are phoney baloney 'experts', also known as puppets for the villainaires, but there are and have been real McCoy experts whose hands have been tied and mouths forcibly shut. And, goodness knows, the 'mess' media far too often does not investigate and report truthfully re. environmental concerns, true costs, both in monetary and respect loss, and in loss of human lives, from our oh so profitable for a few, constant and ongoing warmode. And look what's happening now to Brad Manning for attempting to share the truth with us.

But, get ready, villainaires. More and more of we the sheeple nationwide are catching onto all the Koch sucking, and we're waking up and getting ready to...UNDO THE COUP!
 
 
+8 # billy bob 2011-03-13 17:06
I agree. I'm not saying environmental scientists aren't experts. THEY DEFINITELY ARE THE ONLY EXPERTS, and everything you say is happening to them is true.

What I'm saying is that, the industries that own our government are performing an experiment with our food chain. The variables in this experiment are so numerous that it's impossible predict what the final outcome will be. Opportunistic repugs take that fact out of context and run with it, pretending we don't even know if we're doing any harm. It's a paper thin lie, but it passes for truth to millions of Americans too dumb to question it. Afterall, science in general, isn't taken very seriously in this country, unless it's needed to fix our TV reception. We KNOW industry is causing uprecedented damage to our environment. We KNOW it WILL have a negative impact on our food supply. These things aren't up for debate, BUT until the EXACT nature of the catastrophe we're creating is known (in hindsight), the repug manipulation will be that we can't do ANYTHING about it. The patron saint of deniability - ronnie raygun, was the first repug (I think) to use this strategy, and the m.s.m. buys it every time.

This is what irritates me about some liberals falling for the national "libertarian" enema ron paul is proposing. Environmental regulation is something we can't afford to do without.
 
 
+7 # Lee Black 2011-03-13 17:57
There's a reason it's called a 'food chain' - any glitch in the chain effects all the other links.

And a note to Billy Bob, LIBERALS do NOT agree with deregulation.
 
 
+1 # billy bob 2011-03-14 06:46
I agree. This is why I like this site, but ron paul and his sone RANT, seem to have an army of trolls that come to these threads lecturing us that if we want to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq, the only way to do it is by electing them and saying goodbye to our government.

I can't tell you how many arguments I've had on this web site with people telling me that there's no difference between Democrat and republiklan and the only way to undo the deadlock is to hand over our country to the paul family to play with.

Personally, I think most of the comments are from RANT himself.
 
 
+3 # itchyvet 2011-03-13 18:41
DUH, sounds like a repeat of Mad cow disease. Clearly, some folks just NEVER learn.
 
 
+2 # Texas Aggie 2011-03-13 20:31
No, it doesn't because the prions are much more resistant to degradation than domoic acid is. Given the amount of DA produced by these algae, if it didn't degrade, there would be hardly anything left in the ocean.
 
 
+1 # Linda 2011-03-13 20:27
Well if they are saying that the birds who ate the fish will also die then how does it make the fertilizer made from these fish safe to use on our plants ? Seems to me if it will kill the birds it will be not be safe to use to grow our produce . I think thats rational thinking don't you ?
 
 
+1 # aquarian 2011-03-13 21:10
We had algae blooms in our lake that killed all the fish two times. After much research, I concluded that friendly bacteria treatments and aeration would make the water healthier, more able to fight off the poison algae. Google search "organic cures, bioremediation" for a list of bioremediation companies that use friendly bacteria to treat toxins.
 
 
+4 # trina 2011-03-13 22:52
I think it is becoming more imperative that we not depend on anyone calling themselves experts but to educate ourselves though research. By doing this we keep our eyes open before the experts try to glue them shut. Americans need to go to a T.V. cessation therapy session. Quit depending on others to tell us what is what, it our biggest pitfall as a society.
 
 
+1 # mike herrick 2011-03-16 08:30
just don't edumakate yer self at the wikipedia
 

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