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Intro: "I unbuttoned my jeans in the bright, foul-smelling jail cell at NYPD's 7th precinct, using the metal button to scratch a message into the beige paint on the wall. This one said, 'CG WAS HERE: THE CONSTITUTION WAS NOT - #OWS 9-15-12.'"

Occupy Wall Street protester Chris Philips screams as he is arrested near Zuccotti Park, Monday, Sept. 17, 2012, in New York. Carl Gibson and other journalists have also been arrested during three days of protest. (photo: John Minchillo/AP)
Occupy Wall Street protester Chris Philips screams as he is arrested near Zuccotti Park, Monday, Sept. 17, 2012, in New York. Carl Gibson and other journalists have also been arrested during three days of protest. (photo: John Minchillo/AP)

How I Was Kidnapped by the NYPD

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News

18 September 12


Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns


Reader Supprted News | Perspective


unbuttoned my jeans in the bright, foul-smelling jail cell at NYPD's 7th precinct, using the metal button to scratch a message into the beige paint on the wall. This one said,


The sun had just set on an early fall Saturday night in New York City, and the air was getting cold. The sidewalk was full of Occupiers and NYPD, and up ahead there was chaos and confusion. I could see camera flashes and rapid movements, and heard nothing but commands from the police and shouts of anti-police profanity from Occupiers watching their friends get snatched and grabbed at random. I linked arms with several Occupiers around me and shouted, "March! March!" and we drew close to the police lines. One white-shirted NYPD lieutenant got in my face as I looked around a wall of cops to see who it was that had just been knocked to the ground and handcuffed.

"Move back, or you're next. I promise you that," he said.

Suddenly, the crowd was on top of us, and police were violently and aggressively shoving several journalists snapping photos to the ground. I felt like I was in a mosh pit at a concert, where my body was simply being moved around by the crowd, not of my own volition.

Then, I felt two strong hands on my backpack, yanking me into the chaos. My first thought was that I was about to be in jail for the remainder of the weekend, missing all of the events I had planned on attending.

"Grab my arms!" I shouted frantically, stretching my arms out to Mark. As I was pulled away, he said I looked like a victim in a horror movie who could not be saved from his fate. Mark still says that he'll never be able to get the image of my terror-stricken face out of his memory. (You can see the exact moment of my arrest at the 1hr 36min mark of this stream and in this photo.)

"Get on the ground!" an overzealous NYPD sergeant shouted. My pants were falling down around my hips, and I tried to get on my knees before he shoved me to my face.

"Get your ass on the fucking ground now!" he yelled at me, as I hit the concrete face-first. I felt a knee on my face as my arms were pulled tight behind my back, and felt the bite of the plastic cuffs eating into my flesh. I was then hustled to my feet and pushed into an NYPD van, which was full of six others, five of whom were journalists. We were whisked away to the 7th precinct, and spent three hours in a cell before being given a court summons and the rest of our stuff, and being sent on our way. That night, the jail was 99% full of political prisoners. Mark's cell, next to mine, was full of OWS graffiti that other political prisoners who came before us had scribed into the walls.

The behavior of the NYPD, acting under the orders of Mayor Bloomberg, who has said the police force is his "own army ... the seventh largest army in the world," was unacceptable. I learned that a private citizen can be violently arrested and jailed for walking on a sidewalk, and that cops have free reign to trample basic human rights guaranteed by our founding documents. Bloomberg is the general in the 1%'s class war, determined to absolutely crush any public opposition to his banker friends' greed and corruption - freedoms of speech, press and assembly be damned.

The NYPD learned from last year that kettling and mass-arresting 700 people on the Brooklyn Bridge only adds fuel to the populist fire of the movement. They've now resorted to random snatch-and-grab tactics, meant to disrupt group solidarity, stir up confusion and fear, and minimize media exposure. And given that thousands of Occupiers from across the country are in New York this weekend to celebrate the movement's 1-year anniversary, the snatch-and-grabs of September 15th, mainly targeted at journalists and originators of chants, are meant to do little other than intimidate the group and discourage others from marching on the 17th.

The moment we get too scared to march, Bloomberg and the NYPD win. The moment we allow them to silence our dissent through intimidation, our freedoms have ended. Americans must wake up and realize what's happening to their country and resist the creeping fascist police state, or everything our nation was founded on will be lost in the next year.

Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Manchester, New Hampshire. You can contact Carl at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and listen to his online radio talk show, Swag The Dog, at

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+42 # dkonstruction 2012-09-18 08:36
As horrendous as the actions of the NYPD were, it is like this should have come as a surprise to anyone (especially those of us who live in Bloomberg's NYC. This is not to in any way justify the actions of the NYPD but it does raise the question: if we know this will be the cops response than what should our tactics be?

The larger question for me is how are these tactics effective and how to they help build a movement that has a chance of implementing the type of substantive progressive/rad ical social change that i agree is necessary and that the Occupy movements have been calling for (if we can say that they are calling for anything specific or anything by way of a developed political program).

Successful social and political movements have been about building organization and alternative institutions. Without these, there is no hope of success and a rare political moment and space that Occupy helped create will have been squandered.

There needs to be much more emphasis and discussion about how to build an effective organization(s) and alternative institutions (inlcuding publicly owned financial institutions and worker-owned businesses and cooperatives to name just two) and not fetishize either occupying some (ultimately meaningless) space or getting arrested (in "the old days" the point was not to get arrested but to fill the jails; in the absence of this getting arrested serves no purpose i.e., it doesn't accomplish anything).
+32 # Vardoz 2012-09-18 12:07
They did it in the 60's and they are doing it again. The police have never supported protests by the masses. Except the Tea Party that is. I was at Columbia University when the police stomed the building. There was Kent State and much more. This is serious and the best thing we can do is come out in the tens of thousands which people are not willing to do. Protesters should expect and prepare themselves for violebt responses. Bush did it and they arrested 1,000 people. Don't be naive, we do not have 1 amendment rights.
+21 # isafakir 2012-09-18 14:42
[quote name="Vardoz"]T hey did it in the 60's and they are doing it again. The police have never supported protests by the masses. Except the Tea Party that is. I was at Columbia University when the police stomed the building.

i was active in the 60s and the violence of the police today resembles the bridge in Selma far more than anything I ever saw in NY or Philadelphia. It looks like Chicago in 1968.
+35 # JayS 2012-09-18 13:20
Good question! I agree, coops and worker owned business is a good suggestion. Move your money from the banks that are too big to fail to credit unions. Become a producer, not a consumer. We have been reduced to consumers. We need to produce. Plant a garden, develop a craft, produce energy, do something small. Stop shopping. Don't buy anything unless you absolutely must or buy what you can at flea markets and farmers markets. Barter is better. Deal as little as possible with corporations. When we get them off our backs, we can create the society we deserve meeting our needs not desires planted by ads paid for with corporate profits.
+10 # aaheart 2012-09-18 22:27
I agree. Get small, cottage industry and services, cottage crafts and manufacture. I'm testing ideas to help people become food self-sufficient with very little or no money - this season I planted on shallow composted layers and in only 2" of soil. Plant growth is phenomenal. Use sound, the sound of an oncoming rainstorm...rai sed beds made from free wood on and Check out Kokopelli Garden on medford.craigsl under farm and garden. Food then links to biofuel production...lo cally, regionally. and it links to natural health care. Get creative and network!!!
+18 # barkingcarpet 2012-09-18 13:49
This is just good ol Amerikan values in action, and the end result of Corporate dictatorship, corupt policy, and the remenants left after the "legitimate rape" by and of our banking system.
+28 # Glen 2012-09-18 15:44
"If you are dressed in riot gear, everything looks like a riot."
+39 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-18 09:23
A critical, essential piece of a democratic society is chaos. Arresting reporters, stopping small groups from organizing into a disorganized large group is in effect a dissent squashing tactic. And without dissent, we don't have democracy. The dissenters are being sliced up, knocked around physically, and the major media outlets cover yesterday's gathering as if it were a nostalgic reunion instead of a small part of the ongoing, worldwide Occupy movement.
Mr. Gibson is not the only report of brutish, over the top, police behavior; the accounts are numerous. What happened to Occupy? Its here, its alive, the sympathizers are still behind the movement, its actions are smaller and targeted at injustices thrust upon individuals. Occupy is making a difference all throughout America. There will come a time when Occupy reaches critical mass and America along with much of the world will be transformed by its principles of organized chaos, and communal individuality. If critical mass fails to occur, then we are facing another Dark Age era.
+41 # Barbara K 2012-09-18 11:02
Whatever happened to "Protect and serve"? Their job is to do just that. Are republicans involved in this behavior? It didn't happen when the gun-toting Tbaggers and neo nazies were attending rallies, so why now? Don't you think the timing is a little suspicious? I certainly do.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 For the 100% of us.
-14 # SMoonz 2012-09-18 11:25
Seriously? What do Republicans have to do with the behavior of the NYPD???

I do recall however that when Occupy Wall Street was being cracked down on it was done in a highly coordinated effort between Homeland Sec, the White House and Local Governments.
+29 # carpepax 2012-09-18 13:07
You missed that story about JP Morgan Chase making an unprecedented $4.6M "donation" to the NY Police Fund within the first week of Occupy Wall St.'s inception. If you were watching anything but FOX News that week, you might have heard about it. Republicans are in the pocket of the Banks, Bloomberg is a Republican. What does that not have to do with the behavior of the NYPD as it relates to Occupy or any other challenge to arrogant abuses of power through financial influence?
-6 # SMoonz 2012-09-18 14:35
"If you were watching anything but FOX News that week you might have heard about it..."

I don't have cable, never have sat down to watch their programming, but thanks for making a judgement call on someone you know nothing about.
+17 # engelbach 2012-09-18 15:10
Please. Both parties are firmly in the pockets of the ruling class.

Are you not aware of the challenge to the constitutionali ty of NDAA that Obama is opposing?

Labor Party 2016.
+3 # dquandle 2012-09-18 23:39
Yes indeed it was a highly coordinated effort nationwide, with Obama at the helm.
+3 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-18 12:20

Outside of the authoritative mindset that is often the self selecting template when building a Police department, there is the matter of of their paychecks. In this regard they are like most people, if you pay them they will do as you ask. And, in NYC the power resides on Wall Street and political power is held by a master of Wall Street; they are the ones pulling their strings.
That is not a justification, it is an explanation. In a nation of laws, using an explanation to justify illegal or borderline illegal tactics should be prohibited.
While I do not believe that because of ones job there should be a higher standard applied to them for non job related activities, this is a job related activity and standard of behavior is critical for a stable society.
+14 # Merschrod 2012-09-18 15:08
The NYPD will, in the end have their union and rights repressed by the national guard, but first they will be used up against very the citizens that they will surely need to defend their union, but they will not be there. The food chain or repression will end up in the hands of the army - fin de democracia. Wise up NYPD before your are replaced
-1 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-18 16:05
Please explain the thumb down?
-49 # JackB 2012-09-18 12:59
Yeah, right. Republicans. Betcha those little darlings - the ones shouting the anti-police profanity - will all vote Democrat. They do their parents proud.

Who are the Occupiers? Seriously. Raise your hand if you really know. Not the liberal media BS. Who are they actually? What do they want? How do you know? Seriously - how do you know?

They claim to represent 99% of America. When did you vote them in? Who did you vote in?

I have only seen one thing that is supposedly from the inner circle of this group - the clowns like Cole are not the inner circle. They are the dime store rabble-rousers who generate publicity.

The manifesto that I saw (& I cannot verify its authenticity) reads like a communist manifesto from the 30s with some 21st century updating.

The Tea Party held legal demonstrations (that you could bring your children to without being embarrassed). What took place the other day was a vulgar mob disrupting for the sake of disrupting. They had only one thing on the agenda - pick a fight with the cops & get arrested. Very noble.
+25 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-18 14:03

Hmm, interesting name? Not my point.

Occupy is anybody that is fed up with the corporatocracy (sp?) that has taken over the American democratic experiment. They manipulate our elections, they have purchased a psuedo legal life from our politicians and judges. Their welfare is held as more critical than any natural person's welfare. If you want to reverse the order of things and make the political and economic engines of America respond to human needs, then you are part of Occupy.
The Tea Party is a bunch of "mob" ignorant loud mouths, that just like a clock are right twice a day. Bringing guns to a demonstration is not family friendly. That is by definition.
-23 # JackB 2012-09-18 16:00
If you read my post you see that I acknowledge the media spin put on the Occupy group. You might also have noticed that my questions had nothing to do with that.

Who is at the center of the movement? This is a well organized group whose inner circle is apparently a secret. Who are they? What is THEIR objective? HOW do you KNOW? Where is it published? Do you honest to God believe that the likes of Jason Cole are pulling the strings?

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm attempting to get you to question whether you are being played like a cheap fiddle by the media. You know nothing about what the movement really wants. Only what you have been told to believe. It is even possible that what you believe to be true really is true. But you don't know that.

- A "natural person" as opposed to what?

- A gun is a tool. If it is being carried legally what is your problem? Do you think the occupiers defecating on police cars & American Flags are exhibiting a more appropriate form of family behavior?
+4 # Bigfella 2012-09-18 22:25
"Do you think the occupiers defecating on police cars & American Flags are exhibiting a more appropriate form of family behavior?"
So were are the pictures?
No you watch way to much FOX!
Who are the Occupy movement? Well a hell of a lot are IT personel and a heap more are small buisness owner others are health worker many students and teachers.
The the un-educated or what FOX says they are no most have at lest Colledge education some even worked for the banks and the IMF they are thinkers who see the problem and how it has come about by out right GREED!Ever wonder who controls the bond market? That would be the Corperations of the US of A. 87% of the usa wealth is in the hands of less then 10% and you like that? No they did not make it honestly they stole it by market malipulation or out right thieft BILLIONS.
Occupy is not against Capitialism it is agains Socialised Capitialism in Capitalism there are winners and losers right but under the current model its TO BIG TO FAIL, its MASS UNEMPLOYMENT if they fail so they jet off to plunder the USA taxs (While screaming we pay to much tax!) Once they got the money they cut some for themselves in! Or have you been a sleep or do you prefer to be a serf? WAKE UP TURN OFF FOX AND LOOK AROUND YOU!
+7 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-19 06:29

There is/was a money trail to follow with the TeaPartiers. Who paid for the big, huge painted busses? This was all documented and reported; mainly by Rachel Maddow. She gave sources that you or I could check for ourselves. She named names and nobody proved her wrong. There were others, her reports are what come to mind.
Where is the documentation, or who actually investigated Occupy that allows you to feel comfortable claiming that Occupy is some sort of secret plot funded by Communists? to overthrow the corporate controlled society we presently find America has become. Here is the part you don't get. It is a plot, and its not a secret, and its not massively funded by Communists or some other hidden agenda group or person(s).
Occupy is obviously beyond your sxcope of understanding because what I wrote did not come from some handout I got explaining what I should believe.

The term natural person appears in the US Constitution, try reading it.

Lastly, a gun is a tool to intimidate, threaten and kill. It is not like carrying a bottle opener on your key chain. By carrying it into a demonstration, legally or not, you put every other person including kids at risk. This is why Tea partiers don't really understand America; at least the America that the vast majority of Americans want to live in.
+3 # Pikewich 2012-09-19 13:59

You can find the answers to your questions "Who are the Occupiers and what do they want?" by attending some of their general assemblies.

BTW. Guns are tools for killing things. That is their sole purpose. That is not one of my family values, how about you?
+26 # isafakir 2012-09-18 14:38
[quote name="JackB"]Ye ah, right. Republicans. Betcha ...

The Tea Party held legal demonstrations (that you could bring your children to without being embarrassed).

yeah sure: Don't Tread on Me:
wearing guns, spitting on congressmen, threatening elected officials, carrying racist placards, pelting disabled people with garbage, disrupting town hall meetings, disrupting congressional offices, breaking the glass and trashing congressional offices, calling the president racist hate names and threatening to kill him, and praying in public and in private for the assassination of the president of the USA. something you can be proud of taking your grandkids to. like these same people used to take to a lynching for example.
+22 # Stephanie Remington 2012-09-18 15:29
Quoting JackB:

The Tea Party held legal demonstrations (that you could bring your children to without being embarrassed).

You must be referring to the Tea Party demonstrations where people brought their weapons? Or maybe the one where they attacked a black man who happened to be wearing a hat they identified as Muslim-looking?
+7 # mrbadexample 2012-09-18 12:59
obama/biden are the ones coordinating Occupy suppression through DHS conference calls. A pox on both their houses.
+9 # engelbach 2012-09-18 15:08
Obama is the one of the worst civil liberties presidents ever. His administration is currently fighting against Judge Forrest's ruling that NDAA is unconstitutional.

The liberties you're standing up for are under threat from the very people you're supporting. Sure, the GOP is much worse. But neither party is on our side.
-2 # dquandle 2012-09-18 23:49
They are both execrable tentacles of the same vicious murderous corporate beast.
-17 # Henry 2012-09-18 11:31
What has become of Non-Violence? To yell and scream, to rant, to throw things, to taunt ... these are not non-violent.
+19 # MJnevetS 2012-09-18 12:54
Quoting Henry:
What has become of Non-Violence? To yell and scream, to rant, to throw things, to taunt ... these are not non-violent.
With the exception of "throw things", which was not reported as being a problem in the NY occupy protests, yelling (i.e. No Justice, No Peace), screaming (the same) are called constitutionall y protected SPEECH. Ranting and taunting are subjective perceptions of free speech (if you don't think the speaker is making cohesive, cogent arguments, your perception is that it is a 'rant'; while if you subjectively feel that the constitutionall y protected speech is a personal affront to you, you might say that the speaker is taunting you (i.e. someone says 'all bankers are greedy pigs', and you are a banker, or otherwise support destruction of our economy by banks, then you may feel taunted) Nonetheless, it doesn't make the words any less protected by our constitution. You REALLY need to educate yourself regarding the OWS protests in NY and the police responses thereto. Like the pepper-spraying a group of contained, non-violent women, or the mass arrest of the MEDIA during the closing of Zucotti (Sp.?) Park to prevent the press and thus the public from knowing about POLICE VIOLENCE. Wake up and smell the coffee, or shut yer pie hole .
-1 # Henry 2012-09-21 10:52
Of course yelling and screaming are protected. Nevertheless if you go into a situation looking for a fight, you'll often get one. I was talking about non-violence in attitude, as well. I haven't been to a real OWS event (yet), just a wannabe one that didn't quite make it, and I blame myself as much as the next guy.

But really, in many of the pictures I see people, Occupy people, who look confrontive, who are yelling and making angry gestures, etc. OF COURSE we are angry at all that has happened, but acting that out, or yelling slurs at the cops, is not non-violent, and can only ramp up the anger on both sides.

Heck, even "shut yer pie hole" is violent. Get it?

Occupy won't go anywhere unless it really grasps and maintains a non-violent ATMOSPHERE. Non-violence has great power. Otherwise we can easily be OVER-powered by "them."
+13 # isafakir 2012-09-18 14:29
Quoting Henry:
What has become of Non-Violence? To yell and scream, to rant, to throw things, to taunt ... these are not non-violent.

yelling and screaming taunting aren't violence. in no possible definition of or understanding of the word "violence." and there are no media reports of throwing things. but mace and pepper spray and riot gear while shoving citizens around is violence. under any interpretation.
+2 # Bigfella 2012-09-18 22:27
Well being kettle and pepper sprayed does that to some people wonder what you would do in the same cry and shit your pants?
0 # HowardMH 2012-09-19 09:09
Until there are two hundred thousand really, really pissed off people on Capital Hill (all at the same time) raising some serious hell absolutely nothing is ever, ever going to happen to these totally bought and paid for by the richest 50 people in the world that are becoming more and more powerful with each passing rigged election thanks to the stupid people.
+21 # Replicounts 2012-09-18 12:00
Why do police keep getting worse, all over the world?

In New York and other U,S. cities, fighting Occupy and arresting journalists has nothing to do with making the city safe from crime, or fighting terrorism.

England may be a better example to study. It appears that police and civil liberties went rather quickly from substantially better than the U.S., to even worse.

Governments are getting more oppressive on every continent, with the possible exception of Antartica.

The question is, why? September 11, 2001 and July 5, 2005? The imperial wars? Any ideas on what else is causing the growth of totalitarianism and brutality, and why so many people seem to accept it?
+7 # isafakir 2012-09-18 14:24
[quote name="Replicoun ts"]Why do police keep getting worse, all over the world?

Actually, really, police in Turkey today are less violent and public demonstrations less dangerous to attend now than inNY and Chicago.
+17 # Observer 47 2012-09-18 15:19
You raise a very good point, Replicounts. I think the answer to your question might have to do with the structure of society. Take the old USSR: only about 10% of the citizens belonged to the Communist Party, but the Party controlled the entire country via the military and the ruthless secret police. Why? Because those in power were very much threatened by the sheer masses of ordinary people. In most places in the world today, the masses are increasing much more rapidly than the "elite" classes. The only way for those at the very top to maintain control---i.e., multiply their wealth and power by any means possible, legal or otherwise---is to co-opt the military and para-military (police) forces. The more brutal the tactics, the more intimidated the masses are. As for why people accept the situation, well.....Joe and Jane Average are just trying to keep body and soul together, keep a roof over their heads, and raise their families. If they keep off the radar, they may be allowed their own little patch to live quietly.
+2 # Bigfella 2012-09-18 22:32
Thats because the money is gone and now they are plundering resources and once thats out of this crap game it will be air and water the cops were controled around the world by homeland security we in Sydney occupy could tell when the cops would turn up in battle gear once New York London Rome etc got hit so would we on the same day it just followed the sun around the world!Just like the blood sucking corperations!
+12 # nada19 2012-09-18 12:36
Maybe it is time for NYC to be seen as the third world dictatorship that it is, and the UN should find new digs somewhere in the civilized free world...
+2 # Phlippinout 2012-09-18 16:28
I will never spend my money there! Its corrupt from top to bottom and its cops are gangsters.
+2 # Dave_s Not Here 2012-09-18 18:07
And where might THAT be?
+4 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-09-18 23:27
Costa Rica?
No army since 1948, laws on the books to protect the environemnt, last year's invasion by Nicaragua of an peninsula on the carribean side was resolved through UN mediation without a gunshot...
Yeah, Costa Rica.
+15 # James Marcus 2012-09-18 12:48
The 'Major Media' is now 'organized' to prevent critical mass, if they can. I understand "FEMA' detention centers are already in place around the country, though I'm not certain. If true, this indicates anticipation of extreme social unrest..... due to pre-meditated intentions to violate the extreme (terminate individuals' Constitutional Rights).
So, none of this is 'accidental or incidental'.
Great Question is...Given All This...What are appropriate tactics? Given our numbers, and means, where is the optimum target.
The Violations are, and will be, legion. The Paid Perpetrators (eg police) and their Political Bosses (Mayors, Governors and Presidents!) are also Legion, and all are completely expendable to The Powers That Be,... to 'The Money' that owns them. To Wit: 'Serious Perpetrations', (eg Bin Laden's murder, John Kennedy's murder) often find the Perps, themselves, being 'taken out', afterwards (to ensure silence)!! The 'Bosses' kill their own murderers!
So, where is our 'Best Aim'. The actual Bosses..never commit the actual violations sufferd by People or by the Earth. They 'write Big Checks' from far behind the front lines (not stupid, they)
Are The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc vulnerable at all?Because a monkey wrench THERE.... addresses all violations, at once. Past, Current AND Future.
Let's get smart........ab out our resistence
+8 # Observer 47 2012-09-18 15:22
REALLY intelligent and informed post, James! Trying to get a critical mass of people to grasp, acknowledge, and internalize the truth of it is the obstacle.
+25 # Larry 2012-09-18 12:52
The federal courts are still open, and Carl should visit one of them soon with his complaint for damages arising from the goss violation of his civil rights under 42 USC 1983 et seq.

One indicator of America's slide toward fascism is the militarization of the police, as indicated by their combat-style uniforms, equipment, weaponry, and tactics. Mayor Bloomberg's "seventh largest army" comment only captions the obvious. The cops act this way because they can: They have been trained to see themselves as the front line of an army protecting a city under siege, while citizens exercising their First Amendment rights are a swarm of sub-human insurgents.

Never placate a bully. Let Mayor Bloomberg explain to the citizens of NYC why the city had to pay several multi-million dollar judgments to the victims of his police-state tactics. Never placate a bully.
+2 # Bigfella 2012-09-18 22:37
I like your thinking but only problem is you need to have no money or if it goes against you and you have to pay costs your FKed.
+28 # walt 2012-09-18 12:58
It's all an outright shame and disgrace in a country that pretends to be "the land of the free."

Add to this the NDAA's indefinite detention with military arresting civilians and the scene is completely fascist.

Millionaire Bloomberg is a tyrant and the "army" that protects his wealth and power continue to shame both NYC and the nation.
+5 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-09-18 23:30
"Land of the free" - 5% of the World population; 25% of the world prison population.
All this in the name of "pot melts your brain" and the big business of prisons for profit.
+9 # isafakir 2012-09-18 14:20
how does bloomberg differ from George Wallace and Sheriff Jim Clark in Selma? except in his being even more brutal.
+3 # dquandle 2012-09-18 23:51
He's a thousand times richer.
+13 # futhark 2012-09-18 17:14
First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This has been interpreted to mean that the forces of government are not allowed to infringe on the rights of free speech or peaceable assembly. It seems that Mr. Gibson has had his inherent and Constitutional rights violated by agents of the New York Police Department, which seems to prioritize the current established order over the rights of citizens, a very reactionary position.
+2 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-09-18 23:31
Spot on, Futhark.
+3 # Dave_s Not Here 2012-09-18 18:04
"I learned that..."

Well! Its about time!

You're kinda late to party, aren't you? Most of the rest of us learned all that long before you did, some of us as early as the Viet Nam war protests.

I got my personal consciousness raising at the hands of three Toronto police constables in the summer of 1967.

Anyway, better late than never and welcome to the club
+10 # The Saint 2012-09-18 19:07
Increasingly the police are returning to the good old days when they beat strikers and union men as if paid goons for the owners. Now it's Wall Street and the Bloomberg crowd. Not even realizing that their own pay and benefits are manipulated and kept low by the same interests (or raised when they want their clubs and guns) they beat the crowd who wants to help them. Sounds like the South African cops and miners, the Bangladeshi and Indian corrupt cops working for the corrupt politicians and their moneyed supporters. Why would the police support a fascist alternative when they can get their rocks off beating people for the Wall Street/D.C./Cor porate coalition (and throw in the Supreme Court).
+3 # Dave_s Not Here 2012-09-18 22:25
That's because most of them are merely and nothing more than gangs of ignorant, mercenary thugs. Notice I said most, not all'
+10 # St. Michael the Archangel 2012-09-18 20:08
We must hold the police accountable under the scrutiny of public opinion. They enforce the law, therefore they will not willingly police themselves. We must record them, monitor them, and spread that footage everywhere. That is the only way. If you protest, bring a video camera. Bring more than one. Take photos, record video, document it in every way. If you're in public and you see a cop beating on a man, harassing somebody with a stop and frisk, or violating somebody's rights then step up and document it. There's an app that the ACLU of NJ wrote for Android. It let's you record video on your phone while having the screen off so it doesn't look like you're recording. Also, as you record, that video is simultaneously uploaded to the ACLU of NJ servers so even if the police destroy your phone, that recording is there.

Here's a link.
+2 # Tish 2012-09-18 22:45
I am starting a religion which is totally non-denominatio nal, requires the participation and wisdom of all members, has no head POPE, or power figure, but equally shared rotating Speaker/Facilit ators from the membership who share what they have passion for & feel should be discussed. Members offer their Dreams, Wisdom, Inspiring Personal Experiences, Causes and Concerns, News of Importance, or Ask valuable Questions during each service & discussion follows. I hope this religion would open small grass-root churches world wide which would place the Power, Choice, Work, Responsibility and Accountability squarely back in the hands of the MEMBERS not a GOD WILLING attitude! What ever you believe, A God may or not be willing but for real change we humans must be willing. With these organized gatherings we individually and collectively could regain our power & authority and choice to make the necessary choices to save ourselves & our planet. This would be a conscious socially, environmentally , politically, and economically aware participatory Religion. We can put our resources where we believe they are most needed. When people ask how can I make a difference? There will be some ready choices with room and open-mindedness for options and acting without fear as we ground ourselves in mutual support and sharing at the most basic levels and extending to the global. I am working on it with all my heart and mind!! Join a Resolutionary Sustainable Religion. See 1st amendment. Thanks
+3 # Tish 2012-09-18 23:53
The majority of the comments HERE are thoughtful and well considered! Thank you!#futhark -First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." We are losing ground quickly. We are the 1% to most of the world. We have to change our minds, choices & habits and be accountable to the rest of the crew of spaceship earth. If we cannot turn around the greed, violence & expend-ability of humans and life with our 1st world resources & options, who on the Planet can? We have to before the noose is too tight around our necks to make a difference. Join an Accountable Resolutionary Religion which meets regularly with the well-being of life and the planet in mind. So many of the religions of the world are no longer serving the basic needs and desires of the peaceful majority. Together we can change this. Small, grass roots, with all responsible for the learning, growth, choice & action. The race for learning and accountability is only with yourself. A religion with a growing foundation of principals & justice but with no Great judge-over others but a model for serving the needs of humanity. A Resolutionary Religion of choice.I have pondered for years,I can't think of anything better. So I begin.
0 # cordleycoit 2012-09-19 06:12
Stupid violent cops are nothing new. Thug cops the scum of the mercenary world are ordered to beat the photographers and writers who are trying to make the mayor look good.New York being the hub city must beat people looking for truth. The truth is to become a cop you must shed your humanity.
+2 # Pikewich 2012-09-19 13:50
Getting ourselves arrested will not stop the 1%.

What will stop the 1% is when we collectively refuse to show up at our corporate jobs for a week or a month.

Until then, they win.
+2 # James Smith 2012-09-19 16:26
Get used to it. It isn't like you are living in a free country any more. The USA has become a police state run by corporate interests and the religious reich Rethugnicans.

The public is viewed by them as no more than sheep to be subdued and sheared. Any that dare object can expect even worse treatment. It's over America. Get out while it's still legal!

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