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Intro: "The debt deal will hurt the poorest Americans, convinced by Fox and the Tea Party to act against their own welfare."

President Obama leaves the podium after speaking to reporters about the debt deal, 8/02/11. (photo: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
President Obama leaves the podium after speaking to reporters about the debt deal, 8/02/11. (photo: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)





Anger, Deceit and a Billionaires' Coup

By George Monbiot, Guardian UK

02 August 11

 

Anger and deceit has led the US into a billionaires' coup. The debt deal will hurt the poorest Americans, convinced by Fox and the Tea Party to act against their own welfare.

here are two ways of cutting a deficit: raising taxes or reducing spending. Raising taxes means taking money from the rich. Cutting spending means taking money from the poor. Not in all cases of course: some taxation is regressive; some state spending takes money from ordinary citizens and gives it to banks, arms companies, oil barons and farmers. But in most cases the state transfers wealth from rich to poor, while tax cuts shift it from poor to rich.

So the rich, in a nominal democracy, have a struggle on their hands. Somehow they must persuade the other 99% to vote against their own interests: to shrink the state, supporting spending cuts rather than tax rises. In the US they appear to be succeeding.

Partly as a result of the Bush tax cuts of 2001, 2003 and 2005 (shamefully extended by Barack Obama), taxation of the wealthy, in Obama's words, "is at its lowest level in half a century." The consequence of such regressive policies is a level of inequality unknown in other developed nations. As the Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz points out, in the past 10 years the income of the top 1% has risen by 18%, while that of blue-collar male workers has fallen by 12%.

The deal being thrashed out in Congress as this article goes to press seeks only to cut state spending. As the former Republican senator Alan Simpson says: "The little guy is going to be cremated." That means more economic decline, which means a bigger deficit. It's insane. But how did it happen?

The immediate reason is that Republican members of Congress supported by the Tea Party movement won't budge. But this explains nothing. The Tea Party movement mostly consists of people who have been harmed by tax cuts for the rich and spending cuts for the poor and middle. Why would they mobilise against their own welfare? You can understand what is happening in Washington only if you remember what everyone seems to have forgotten: how this movement began.

On Sunday the Observer claimed that "the Tea Party rose out of anger over the scale of federal spending, and in particular in bailing out the banks." This is what its members claim. It's nonsense.

The movement started with Rick Santelli's call on CNBC for a tea party of city traders to dump securities in Lake Michigan, in protest at Obama's plan to "subsidise the losers." In other words, it was a demand for a financiers' mobilisation against the bailout of their victims: people losing their homes. On the same day, a group called Americans for Prosperity (AFP) set up a Tea Party Facebook page and started organising Tea Party events. The movement, whose programme is still lavishly supported by AFP, took off from there.

So who or what is Americans for Prosperity? It was founded and is funded by Charles and David Koch. They run what they call "the biggest company you've never heard of", and between them they are worth $43 billion. Koch Industries is a massive oil, gas, minerals, timber and chemicals company. In the past 15 years the brothers have poured at least $85 million into lobby groups arguing for lower taxes for the rich and weaker regulations for industry. The groups and politicians the Kochs fund also lobby to destroy collective bargaining, to stop laws reducing carbon emissions, to stymie healthcare reform and to hobble attempts to control the banks. During the 2010 election cycle, AFP spent $45m supporting its favoured candidates.

But the Kochs' greatest political triumph is the creation of the Tea Party movement. Taki Oldham's film (Astro)Turf Wars shows Tea Party organisers reporting back to David Koch at their 2009 Defending the Dream summit, explaining the events and protests they've started with AFP help. "Five years ago," he tells them, "my brother Charles and I provided the funds to start Americans for Prosperity. It's beyond my wildest dreams how AFP has grown into this enormous organisation."

AFP mobilised the anger of people who found their conditions of life declining, and channelled it into a campaign to make them worse. Tea Party campaigners take to the streets to demand less tax for billionaires and worse health, education and social insurance for themselves.

Are they stupid? No. They have been misled by another instrument of corporate power: the media. The movement has been relentlessly promoted by Fox News, which belongs to a more familiar billionaire. Like the Kochs, Rupert Murdoch aims to misrepresent the democratic choices we face, in order to persuade us to vote against our own interests and in favour of his.

What's taking place in Congress right now is a kind of political coup. A handful of billionaires have shoved a spanner into the legislative process. Through the candidates they have bought and the movement that supports them, they are now breaking and reshaping the system to serve their interests. We knew this once, but now we've forgotten. What hope do we have of resisting a force we won't even see?

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+122 # fredboy 2011-08-02 15:18
Chuck Colson said "When you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

This is the first time I have ever seen anyone hand their balls over to others.

Please, Mr. President, learn the new lessons of negotiation. You cannot use reason when dealing with hate.
 
 
+10 # Still_Standing 2011-08-02 17:30
Give it up, fredboy. Bambam never had any balls to hand over - didn't you realize he's a corporate capon and always has been?

Time to forget about this pathetic con man and turn your attention to the local level where it may still be possible to change things.
 
 
+16 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-08-03 09:34
Yes, fredboy, hate. And greed and power addiction at its worst.

Our greed and power addicted rulers (with their endless, oh so profitable for them wars, wars, wars, for oil, oil, oil), now call all the shots, including the manipulated recession/depre ssion we now suffer.

Time is now to take off the blinders, see how Bushwhacked, Kochsucked, and OhBombAh'ed we are, and fight like Irish/Wisconsin hell to...UNDO THE COUP!
 
 
+128 # AML 2011-08-02 15:41
Thank you, George, for those insightful words. Even after it's been proven that Fox-watchers are enormously underinformed and misled, they cling to the visceral spewings of those right wing hookers, mostly because it IS visceral and answers the viewers rage. It certainly has nothing to do with rational thought. God help us.
 
 
+55 # in deo veritas 2011-08-02 17:00
Considering how gutless and stupid people in this country have become, I cannot imagine why God would waste His time with us any longer. What ever happens is our own fault for trusting in politicians, businessmen, and lying media. I just hope that those whose actions have led to this will all find their front row seats in hell.
 
 
-31 # Joeconserve 2011-08-02 17:41
I read somewhere, "Let he who is innocent cast the first stone."
 
 
+12 # Texas Aggie 2011-08-02 20:54
I can assure you it wasn't on anything associated with the right wing, like Fox.
 
 
0 # SpaceTracy 2011-08-03 11:41
WHAT????
 
 
+10 # X Dane 2011-08-02 23:28
Well deo. We can't wait for God to HELP. I wonder if he has been subverted by the Koch brothers too?

In any case we can not afford to wait and hope, We have to TAKE ACTION. For starters, I doubt that the MSM will brings this to the attention of the country.

SO WE MUST SEND THIS TO AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE AND TELL THEM KEEP IT GOING.

Think about the young EGYPTIANS, what they managed to do on the internet.?????
ARE WE ANY LESS??? I sure hope not.
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-08-06 12:58
Depressing to realize the Koch's could drop a billion dollars on the next election and still have $42 billion in the bank. Contrary to the insipid yuppie adage, anyone who's seen an anorexic knows you can be too thin, and the Koch brothers prove you can also be too rich.
 
 
+86 # goodsensecynic 2011-08-02 17:01
An American joke (or the joke on America).

Two English professors met one day, not having seen each other for some time.

Said Professor A: "B, old chap, I haven't seen you for a long while."

Said Professor B: "I've been away in America researching my new book."

Said Professor A: "Ah, what's the topic?"

Said Professor B: "The persistence of social classes in America."

Said Professor A: "Why, I didn't think they had social classes in America!"

Said Professor B: "Neither do they. That's how they persist."
 
 
+41 # in deo veritas 2011-08-02 17:02
Has no one else come to the conclusion that with the money they have stolen from us, Wall Street has been infusing huge amounts of cash into BOTH parties. They cover all their bets so no matter who gets "elected" whether by hook or crook, they will be in their employ. How about checking into where Obama's re-election campaign is getting its money!
 
 
-54 # TommyD1of11 2011-08-02 19:02
Hey Deo,

Good comment. I agree. Crony Capitalism is horrible; almost as bad as Socialism.

Sounds like you're ready to join the Tea Party. Welcome aboard.

Tea Partiers would have let Goldman Sachs (aka Government Sachs) fail. Obama first hired then and then saved them.
 
 
+42 # Texas Aggie 2011-08-02 20:57
In this reality John Paulson, Bush's Sec. of the Treas., is the one who thought up and administered the bailout before Obama was elected. I'm not sure what happened in your reality.
 
 
+8 # Oligarch 23 2011-08-03 13:03
You TP-ers are still for tax cuts for the rich, aren't you? I'd hate to pay in taxes what you are paying!And funding the wars of course? I am depending on them to keep my stock portfolio producing income! And of course, you will let big Insurance, Pharma and Agribusiness continue to take over your lives? We Oligarchs are heavily invested in that as well! But don't let those pesky workers unionize and increase any of our labor costs-even if it is for the sandwich shop down the street! don't forget allowing children to work longer hours! That is what I call a Tea Party World!
 
 
+3 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:09
Quoting TommyD1of11:
Hey Deo,

Good comment. I agree. Crony Capitalism is horrible; almost as bad as Socialism.

Sounds like you're ready to join the Tea Party. Welcome aboard.

Tea Partiers would have let Goldman Sachs (aka Government Sachs) fail. Obama first hired then and then saved them.


so, let me get this straight, according to this article the Koch brothers, billionaires, founded the Tea Party.
and, they are for the rich people staying rich, not for the average working American. once again, how is it that they would have let another rich company Goldman Sachs) fail; maybe so they could buy them up at discount prices; what am I missing here?
 
 
+36 # Broger 2011-08-02 19:37
The corruption is beyond fathomable. I thought we had a chance with people like Nader or Dean, but the polls/TV media made us think they were spoilers and maniacs and that they would never be electable.
When Nader said there was no substantive difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, he knew what he was talking about. He saw the binding force of laws. Now you see how it happened. Just keep your eyes wide open. Maybe we can also change it.
 
 
-4 # rf 2011-08-03 04:47
When the subsidized bank throws them out of their house, they can't afford the subsidized car, or food, or gas...when enough of us are on the street...and that's where we'll be after this s#*t...there will be no Faux news and people will get pissed...not until then...so we should probably all vote tea party and get it over with...our bitter medicine!
 
 
+2 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:11
Quoting rf:
When the subsidized bank throws them out of their house, they can't afford the subsidized car, or food, or gas...when enough of us are on the street...and that's where we'll be after this s#*t...there will be no Faux news and people will get pissed...not until then...so we should probably all vote tea party and get it over with...our bitter medicine!

is this the same as making yourself throw up, when you have eaten food that is spoiled, because you know you will feel better eventually?
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-08-06 12:54
Let's not forget that race, sexism and homophobia are also major factors with the Teabaggers, even though they run screaming from being accurately described as bigots. The manipulators like Frank Luntz and Karl Rove specialize in appealing to low-info white voters emotionally, and authoring glib talking points to disguise their various irrational hatreds as level-headed conservatism. It's an old trick: keep the mark looking at the right hand while the other one picks his pocket. A shame it works so well so often but, on the bright side, right-wing media is dying a slow death, so there may be some hope after all.
 
 
+129 # Vaughn A. Carney 2011-08-02 15:48
The know-nothing Tea Party sock-puppets will not understand until they're living under bridges with all their belongings in shopping carts, eating Alpo on Ritz crackers. And it will serve them right.
 
 
+43 # goodsensecynic 2011-08-02 16:55
Ritz crackers? Not at today's prices!
 
 
+10 # Bill Clements 2011-08-02 17:45
Alpo on Ritz; a new kind of reality sandwich
 
 
+18 # Patricia Chang 2011-08-03 02:02
At least they could eat. We have people starving in this country, and they are ignored by D.C. The Food Pantries cannot keep up with the demand.
 
 
+53 # Lisa D. 2011-08-02 17:57
Quoting Vaughn A. Carney:
The know-nothing Tea Party sock-puppets will not understand until they're living under bridges with all their belongings in shopping carts, eating Alpo on Ritz crackers. And it will serve them right.


problem is, we are ALL going to be living under bridges along with those stupid fools!
 
 
+27 # why not? 2011-08-02 20:43
It won't matter. Pointing out to them that they are now Alpo-eating, bridge-dwelling "losers" because of a false ideology will be lost on them. They'll still blame Obama. The new mantra: "You've got nothing to lose but your bootstraps!"
 
 
+7 # silenus 2011-08-03 01:43
Who is going to pay or all of those bridges?
 
 
+7 # Jule Laudisio 2011-08-03 09:17
Without an infrastructure there will be no bridges to live under. I imagine we'll have to live under the skies and the great climatic change.
 
 
+1 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:12
Quoting Lisa D.:
Quoting Vaughn A. Carney:
The know-nothing Tea Party sock-puppets will not understand until they're living under bridges with all their belongings in shopping carts, eating Alpo on Ritz crackers. And it will serve them right.


problem is, we are ALL going to be living under bridges along with those stupid fools!

perhaps, I guess this is what happens when people take words literally...all men are created equal...
 
 
+72 # Bill Clements 2011-08-02 16:18
Many of us have been wondering for quite some time (prior, even to the birth of the TP) how Republicans can vote against their own self-interest, but this is an even more egregious example of clueless people duped by the media (Fox, primarily) to support a political movement that is definitely going to savage them economically. The Koch brothers et al billionaires must think they've died and gone to heaven!
 
 
0 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:13
Quoting Bill Clements:
Many of us have been wondering for quite some time (prior, even to the birth of the TP) how Republicans can vote against their own self-interest, but this is an even more egregious example of clueless people duped by the media (Fox, primarily) to support a political movement that is definitely going to savage them economically. The Koch brothers et al billionaires must think they've died and gone to heaven!

they say the meek will inherit the earth; does that mean that the rich or the poor will end up living on a basically uninhabitable earth?
 
 
+41 # DLT888 2011-08-02 16:22
I have to agree with Vaughn. Some people will never learn unless they suffer the consequences themselves. The Fox watchers and Tea Partiers need to feel the suffering themselves that their ignorance caused before they see the light. Unfortunately, because they are taking us all with them.
 
 
+44 # Kiwikid 2011-08-02 18:06
The deception seems to be so complete its unlikely that the Fox watchers and Tea Partiers will ever recognise the true source of their pain, no matter how bad it gets. They'll continue to blame the popularised demons of the day being promoted by their puppet masters.
 
 
+11 # X Dane 2011-08-02 23:39
YEP Andrew. It is the old story of the FROG.

Put him in a kettle of cold water.
turn up the heat s l o w l y. and THE POOR SUCKER WON'T REALIZE HE IS COOKED.
WAKE UO PEOPLE THERE IS A HELL OF A LOT OF FROGS IN OUR COUNTRY.

GET OUT OF THE KETTLE
 
 
+1 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:14
Quoting DLT888:
I have to agree with Vaughn. Some people will never learn unless they suffer the consequences themselves. The Fox watchers and Tea Partiers need to feel the suffering themselves that their ignorance caused before they see the light. Unfortunately, because they are taking us all with them.

the trick is to do the deed and then pass the consequences on to someone else, probably the meeks who are reputed to be inheriting the earth...
 
 
+2 # charsjcca 2011-08-02 16:29
When the time comes to act the mis-directed never do. Had Barack Obama appointed a person for the people in the mold of Daniel Ellsberg as Secretary of Defense we would not be having this conversation. On January 22, 2009, the tanks and APCs would have reversed and left Iraq and Afghanistan. The DoD budget as we know it would have disappeared. It is a mistake to claim that the Koch brothers caused this to happen. Their father, Fred, Sr., never accomplished this goal. Honest brokers follow their heart. What we thought was a victory in 2008 turned into a fraud. We were conned, and "you can not con an honest person." It was my dishonesty that fueled this fire and I accept that.
 
 
+6 # ABen 2011-08-02 21:56
While I agree with your sentiment, had Obama immediately pulled troop from Iraq, the Teabagger driven House would have impeached him instantly. I fear that the petulant children will be running the show until the 2012 elections. Vote Democratic!!
 
 
+2 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:17
Quoting charsjcca:
When the time comes to act the mis-directed never do. Had Barack Obama appointed a person for the people in the mold of Daniel Ellsberg as Secretary of Defense we would not be having this conversation. On January 22, 2009, the tanks and APCs would have reversed and left Iraq and Afghanistan. The DoD budget as we know it would have disappeared. It is a mistake to claim that the Koch brothers caused this to happen. Their father, Fred, Sr., never accomplished this goal. Honest brokers follow their heart. What we thought was a victory in 2008 turned into a fraud. We were conned, and "you can not con an honest person." It was my dishonesty that fueled this fire and I accept that.

wow; so everyone who voted for Obama hoping that there was a shred of decency left in America was dishonest; actually I could consider stupid or easily duped or hopelessly optimtistic; but dishonest, gee that kind of lets the bad guys off the hook; sort of like blame the victim approach?
 
 
+27 # Eleni Mylonas 2011-08-02 16:34
What you don't know can hurt you. And they do not know who is on their side. Tragic. Ignorance is deadly.
 
 
+39 # tpc@mcn.org 2011-08-02 16:40
Perhaps now enough Americans will come to their senses and realize our country has been a corporate dictatorship at least since Nov. 22, 1963. Since then, a few faces at the top have changed every four or eight years to maintain the illusion of democracy.

The corporate media is the Ministry of Propaganda of the dictatorship that now even has its own flag that in place of stars are corporate logos and can be seen at www.adbusters.com.

For those of you who still accept the Warren Commission findings, just "reverse engineer" major politico/econom ic events from the "Wall Street Meltdown" of coincidentally late in presidential election year 2008, back to America's war on Islam for oil, to the fraudulent presidential elections of 2004 and 2000, to 9/11, to Reagan's "Iran-Contragat e" and the S & L rip-off, to "Watergate" and Nixon's fraudulent War on Drugs, to LBJ's war on Vietnam, and to the murder of JFK. Then perhaps conspiracy may not seem so far-fetched.

One thing certain, JFK's assassination was a sharp turn to the right and Oswald was NOT steering the ship-of-state back then.
 
 
+35 # Susan W 2011-08-02 16:43
You ask the question "are they stupid?" Well I would say the answer is yes! To hide behind misinformation as an excuse is not valid in today's world. Back in the olden days when everyone was fed the same government endorsed drivel and there was no access to opposing views, then I could say misinformation was a possible excuse. Not today. Only stupid people take the word of the MSM without question then claim they were misinformed. Only stupid people carry signs saying "keep your government hands off my Medicare".

The right-wing operatives know how stupid these people are and move right in to take advantage of it. Until the populace smartens up I'm afraid we are on a train bound to crash and to blame it all on being misinformed is poppycock.
 
 
+4 # for parity 2011-08-02 17:33
Well, often enough they actually listen to the lies being fed them by the politicians. From the very liberal FactCheck.org:

Scaring Seniors -- http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/scaring-seniors/

Obama's Social Security Whopper -- http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_social_security_whopper.html

What's worse than thinking seniors to be stupid, is thinking seniors to be stupid, than understanding that the entire national MSM would never dare to challenge you on your lies.
 
 
+16 # Dave Muir Jr 2011-08-02 17:43
They are not stupid, they are asleep. Calling people stupid is not in your or their best interest...it will just delay the new day. As they awaken, and they will, greet them with kind enthusiasm for the tasks at hand.
 
 
0 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:30
[quote name="Susan W"]You ask the question "are they stupid?" Well I would say the answer is yes!


Yes, people are willfully ignorant, willful blindness if you will, and why else could that be, besides stupidity; well, here in violent America where there are more murders in one year than in the rest of the world put together, including wars; another answer is that people live in fear of their government.
In Michael Moore's film Sicko he asked French citizen about impression of US; answer: in France the government is afraid of the citizens; in America the citizens are afraid of their government.
Often guns are the way disputes are settled and NRA justifies gun ownership as way for citizens to keep control.
 
 
+28 # Mickeyfilm 2011-08-02 16:44
Charles and David Koch, Murdoch and his Fox News, and the connection to Americans for Prosperity... all of this has to be revealed BIG in mainstream media, just as it was in this article. Much of the problem is that Americans don't read so you have to bang folks over the head with George Monbiet's great story above. Anything said about this story and you know Fox, Koch and Murdoch will spend millions immediately to discredit the story. So, what do you do? For instance, I contribute often to Move On which Fox labels a radical terrorist type organization. Move On is luckey if it can raise a few thousand. So, what do we do? I'm serious. Probably at least a billion has been spent by these folks to train the Tea Party robots, so how do you untrain them? It all boils down to who has the most money! We've got to find billionaires with money to burn to support our democracy and the lower and soon absent middle class. But what millionaire will do that? Ross Perot? Who? Any suggestions?
 
 
-19 # eric_frodsham 2011-08-02 20:20
I still think that Ron Paul is a good/honest candidate. He is for slashing the military budget, state rights, and is all about getting the federal reserve in our own hands. He has already made a good showing in Iowa and has raised a pretty good amount of money so far.
 
 
+2 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:31
Quoting Mickeyfilm:
Charles and David Koch, Murdoch and his Fox News, and the connection to Americans for Prosperity... all of this has to be revealed BIG in mainstream media, just as it was in this article. Much of the problem is that Americans don't read so you have to bang folks over the head with George Monbiet's great story above. Anything said about this story and you know Fox, Koch and Murdoch will spend millions immediately to discredit the story. So, what do you do? For instance, I contribute often to Move On which Fox labels a radical terrorist type organization. Move On is luckey if it can raise a few thousand. So, what do we do? I'm serious. Probably at least a billion has been spent by these folks to train the Tea Party robots, so how do you untrain them? It all boils down to who has the most money! We've got to find billionaires with money to burn to support our democracy and the lower and soon absent middle class. But what millionaire will do that? Ross Perot? Who? Any suggestions?

How about Bill Gates and Warren Buffet?
 
 
+25 # hms 2011-08-02 16:52
It's been a masterful piece of manipulation for which the American public has not been aware of (actually, too stupid!) but it's a prime example of who actually owns the country!

I just wonder how much Carl Rove had to do with designing it.
 
 
+4 # Ralph Averill 2011-08-03 02:23
A lot.
 
 
+46 # goodsensecynic 2011-08-02 16:54
I think it was H. L. Mencken who quipped that the United States was the only country in history to go from barbarism to decadence without an intervening period of civilization.

He was too generous. It appears that the US has found a way to combine barbarism and decadence at the same time ... civilization? Not so much.
 
 
+5 # silenus 2011-08-03 01:55
Sorry -- not Mencken. It's probably Georges Clemenceau but has also been attributed to both George Bernard Shaw and Oscar Wilde.

Whichever, it's hard to argue with the thesis.
 
 
+23 # Terradea 2011-08-02 17:05
The "know-nothing" Tea Party puppets will never understand. Even when they are under the bridges, they will blame liberals for their troubles. One can only hope that, after all their prayers for food remain unanswered, the pitiful Tea Party puppets will suspend belief in god, Beck, Bachmann and Palin and maybe, finally, open up their eyes.
 
 
+11 # Still_Standing 2011-08-02 17:46
Nothing will open the eyes of these morons. They're irredeemable. I kind of hope those FEMA camps so many of them rant about are real. They'd make a good place to house the tea-baggers once decent people re-assume control in the United States.
 
 
+19 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-02 18:22
Quoting Still_Standing:
Nothing will open the eyes of these morons. They're irredeemable. I kind of hope those FEMA camps so many of them rant about are real. They'd make a good place to house the tea-baggers once decent people re-assume control in the United States.

SS, these people BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE, and MAY NEVER CHANGE. Rove, the Kochs, Beck, and the like are somewhere having a party and laughing at these people they've suckered so easily. SELF-DECEPTION is much more dangerous than the average person realizes.
 
 
+11 # castaway5555 2011-08-02 17:07
I'm afraid you're right.
 
 
+30 # Megan H 2011-08-02 17:17
Sorry but the majority of Americans are opposed to this bill. The majority of Americans voted for Obama to fight against these policies. The majority of Americans did not have a vote in Congress today nor could they persuade their President to put up a fight on their behalf. The Republicans are extortionists and expert manipulators and most of the Democrats have no answers because they have weak convictions and spines.
 
 
+1 # HomeyChingaso 2011-08-04 14:07
You're right, Megan. It's maddening how the Democrats, and even Obama, seemingly refuse to defend themselves, or stand up for anything. John Boehner can go on national television and bold-faced lie to the public, and neither Obama nor a single Democrat calls him on it. CNN. along with the other non-Fox news outlets, are so afraid of being labled "liberal" that they've kneejerked to the Right. I understand taking the high road and not "stooping to their level," but when Obama and the Dems don't object to what's being said, or defend themselves, eventually people will decide that the lie must be true.

Obama went on TV one night all pissed off after Boehner had walked out of negotiations, and it was the Obama we'd all been praying for. He talked straight and told it like it was; what people needed to hear, especially the misled-Right. Two nights later, instead of continuing this strong stance, he went back to wordy-passivity , stupidly trying to be Mr. Nice. Everyone knew that Boehner would come on after him and lie even more, but even knowing this didn't stop Obama from offering nothing but milk toast. He had an opportunity. What we saw was Stockholm Syndrome at the Executive level.
 
 
+27 # Ellen Cantarow 2011-08-02 17:20
Montbiot is right on the money (pun intended, I guess.) I'd love to see a million-person march on Washington, a US Tahrir Square, but probably ain't gonna happen. I'm 70 and this is the most depressing period I've experienced in my life.
 
 
+22 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-02 18:27
Quoting Ellen Cantarow:
Montbiot is right on the money (pun intended, I guess.) I'd love to see a million-person march on Washington, a US Tahrir Square, but probably ain't gonna happen. I'm 70 and this is the most depressing period I've experienced in my life.

Ellen, I am NOT ready to raise the flag of surrender just yet. Murdoch Media Mogul Empire is about to detonate, and hopefully, take down their "payroll list of politicians, Newscorp., Faux Nooz, and everything else with his dirty mitts on it WITH HIM! Throw in the repugs, blue dogs, and teabaggers as well; maybe the explosion will WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
 
 
+8 # goodsensecynic 2011-08-03 04:31
Depression is a luxury that cannot fit the political budget of a free people.

It's a weapon of the elite which causes us to substiture therapy for political action.

I'm only 66, but I refuse to surrender to mind games.

Take back the Democratic Party.

Look what fascistic T-baggers did with the already egregious Republicans, and start to bring the so-called "liberals" to their senses.

Where is Abbie Hoffman when we need him? Or, failing that, where are the environmentalis ts, feminists, anti-poverty activists, trade unionists, minority group representatives ... you know, the AMERICAN PEOPLE ... (and, yes, us "seniors" too.
 
 
+5 # Joeconserve 2011-08-03 10:33
You forgot to include the Vets, the farmers, the Patriots, the working people, the self sufficient, and we other seniors who really built this country.
 
 
0 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:37
Where is Abbie Hoffman when we need him? Or, failing that, where are the environmentalis ts, feminists, anti-poverty activists, trade unionists, minority group representatives ... you know, the AMERICAN PEOPLE ... (and, yes, us "seniors" too.

Well, Abbie Hoffman is dead,unfortunat ely; and many other people who might be candidates for "regime change" are busy, lining up to buy the next IPhone/tech gadget. I hear there is a new one set to debut in September.
 
 
+25 # facethetruth 2011-08-02 17:20
Wait a minute. 95 Democrats voted for the coup. Had they all voted against it, it would have failed. It was not a simple-minded Republican coup, but a bi-partisan act of treason. To reverse it, ram through the re-instatement of Glass-Steagall. It is in the House under HR 1489.
 
 
+1 # Still_Standing 2011-08-02 17:35
Here's a handy list of the DemocRATS in Congress who voted for Bambam's capitulation to the Teabagges:

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/690

It's good to know who the criminals are, isn't it?
 
 
+4 # chick 2011-08-03 07:56
And where is the list of the Republicans?

That is what I want to see. The Reublicans will now advertise in colors not of Red but blue so you think you are not voting Republicans. One thing I can say they are not stupid.
and in my book they are the Criminals.
 
 
+10 # fhunter 2011-08-02 17:40
Masses are always falling for nonsense, and vote against their own interest The Germans did it in 1933, the USA in 2011. President Obama had almost three years to explain the truth to his people. He obviously did not do it. Had no experience, intellect and stamina to do the job.
 
 
+14 # peterjkraus 2011-08-02 17:47
The Tea Partiers: "Are they stupid?"

Yes.
 
 
+15 # angelfish 2011-08-02 21:19
Sorry Peter, They're NOT stupid, they're EVIL! Stupid is what "dubya" was, but Cheney and the rest of them, as well as this Fascist Majority in the House are truly evil! The American Electorate was also somewhat stupid in allowing the Fascists to get them to vote against their best interests. I just wish our President had some Cojones. WHERE did the man with the FIRE in his belly that RAN for President go? I can't believe that the office of the President is so impotent and has so little clout politically. What's the use in having a President if he can't or WON'T lead? Beats me.
 
 
+6 # chick 2011-08-03 08:00
I agree but I also believe he really believes he wants to be the Peoples president. All Americans and is too nice a guy. He has got to get those blades out of his back and start fighting not for all Americans but for the middle and poor. those are the ones who need a President on their side. The others have the Supreme Court on their side.
 
 
+14 # Chasiboy 2011-08-02 17:54
When the poor’s backs are flat up against the wall they will revolt against the obvious perpetrators. The chasm between the rich and poor is widening at a frightening speed and it brings to mind a familiar dilemma. In the following ‘power law’ it's interesting to substitute usability and availability with 'the rich' and 'the poor':

The inverse nature of Usability vs Availability is an interesting dilemma. An increase in one will likely drive a decrease in the other and as they approach their maximum ranges, the schizim between the two grows.

Integrating the evaluation and management of this relationship into the day to day operations is key to successful governing. However, now that our elected officials are bought and sold like farm animals their ability to evaluate and manage this interesting phenomena has disappeared and we appear to be tumbling into the abyss where it is 'every man for himself' which of course is beyond the control of the perpetrators of this situation... kind of like when the banks stopped analyzing people's ability to pay for the mortgages they were awarding, for which the so called watch dogs awarded the banks triple A ratings... and then it all blew up! Well what do you know... Who might have guessed? Wow!

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". JFK
 
 
+5 # kelsorooser 2011-08-03 14:05
Well, I think the march of 20 or even 30 million is in order and the march should go right into congress in a threatening manner to show them we are serious and their show is over
 
 
+22 # Archie1954 2011-08-02 18:06
There's a huge difference between those who are stupid becasue they were born that way and those who are willfully ignorant. I place the bulk of the Republican electorate in the latter category.
 
 
+3 # chick 2011-08-03 08:03
I would call them not stuid but Greedy.
Remember they are millionaires. and expecting to get more from the Kotches and Murdocks.
 
 
+25 # wfalco 2011-08-02 18:22
Last fall I was talking to a "soccer mom" at my son's practice. As a liberal in Florida I had decided it was in my best interests to remain mute on political matters with new acquaintances.

TV shows were discussed (what else?) I mentioned I favor The Office and Rescue Me. I continued I didn't watch much else with the exception of news shows and Discovery Channel with my son.

The new acquaintance took the opening to inform me that "everything on TV these days is crap." She noted, however, that she loved FOX-especially Glen Beck. The "soccer Mom" had informed me (I really didn't ask) that she was an unemployed hair stylist. She was unemployed due to a "bad back" and was applying for SSI. Her husband was a truck driver who was losing hours because of Obama. Obama was bad for the country as he was spending "all that money" on welfare.

I mumbled something incoherently and quietly walked away, never even considering an attempt at logical/rationa l discourse. It seemed it would have been a futile attempt to try to change someone's mind who was totally incapaple of legitimate critical thought,- based on factual information.

It is time to admit what we are up against. We (leftists) are a small minority. I believe we are doomed.
 
 
+20 # why not? 2011-08-02 21:06
I know -- it's hard not to feel totally discouraged. People in general seem so dumbed-down today.

I do think the media is complicit in this. Our local news stations have turned into a joke, good only for weather and traffic. Heard one commentator remark that Greece was so broke it was selling off its national treasures to other countries. "That's really bad, can you imagine?" replied the other talking head. Shaking heads, tsking, while I am screaming at the screen that WE are selling off turnpikes and toll roads and other parts of our vital infrastructure to foreign investors, and don't these newscasters, directors, producers know ANYTHING????

Or people overheard at the library complaining about their taxes as they use the Internet on public computers, check out books and music and DVDs -- all for free, for everyone, because everyone contributed just a few dollars for the privilege of living in a civilized society. That's how it's supposed to work. I have to keep hoping that someday they'll figure it out -- hopefully before they destroy the country. I still kind of love the idea of America.
 
 
+5 # X Dane 2011-08-03 00:02
THEY DON'T why not. All they are concerned about is stupidity like Lindsey Lohan, Charlie Sheen and the inane flavor of idiots of the week.

Which is why I never bother watching network news. Al Jazeera, BBC and PBS is factual.
 
 
-4 # chick 2011-08-03 08:15
Great, we can do without citizens like you. You are doing exactly what you are complaing about.

So they watch Ch. Sheen and Lind. Lohan and you watch BBC and Pbs.

That does not make you any better just a little more discriminating at what you watch.

We need Americans to be informed and involved in our effort to get this country going and you do nothing.
 
 
+1 # cynthia 2011-08-03 18:45
. I have to keep hoping that someday they'll figure it out -- hopefully before they destroy the country. I still kind of love the idea of America.
People all over the world love the idea of America; the problem is with its implementation which requires "eternal vigilence", something that we need to foster in children. something that one would hope the public school system that we all pay for would include in its curriculum.
 
 
+7 # chick 2011-08-03 08:10
Wfalo don't give up please. Remember Wisconsin, the people there voted Republicans in because they were frustrated with Obamna then they started getting all those laws that were against the people.

They are furious now and realize what a big mistake they made in voting in Republicans, now they are trying to get them out. Next election you know who they will be voting for.

And I think this will be all over the U.S. Voting Democrats in for a huge majority and then tell them give us back our country and do what we the people want. I think they will becaue the Democrats have always been on the peoples side. Having a huge majority will make a big, big, difference.
 
 
+14 # Don Thomann 2011-08-02 18:25
The planet is threatened by overpopulation that is causing ecological devastation.
Solution - mass-genocide of the poor, sick, elderly, weak and disenfranchised .
The U.S., long engaged in this pursuit internationally , has now joined the cabal of nations already fully engaged in reducing their own populations.
Welcome to the "New World Order!"
 
 
+18 # reiverpacific 2011-08-02 18:38
There's a Scottish song entitled "Such a Parcel o' Rogues in a Nation"!
That just about describe's the Tea Party, Americans for Prosperity, FOX and their blanked-out lock-steppers to a tee.
The tactics of blackmail, misinformation and threats of a national default leading up to the latest "Deal', if you want to call it that, (very much like the Tea Party Town hall disrupters), are very similar to those used by Hitler's thuggish S.A. Brownshirts who bullied the electorate into the overthrow of the Wermarcht. Of course the Fuhrer had them massacred too in the 'Night of the Long Knives' after they had become an embarrassment to his campaign to capture the hearts and minds of the average German, so he could swell the armed ranks and war machine for his "Thousand-Year Reich' (sound familiar yet?).
I wonder if we'll see such a self-devouring dismissal of the T.P. faction that hitched it's wagon to the Republicans and are now trying to dominate the main body, (bad enough in themselves already!) and pulling it ever closer to the abyss of total unreason?
Meanwhile, Obama and most of the Dem's sit on their hands and hope for reason, -or sympathy, or-or-or???!
To the streets!
 
 
+17 # corallady 2011-08-02 19:24
I suggest that you read the book "What's the Matter with Kansas?" It explains why people vote against their best interests, and it's a book that will stick with you.
 
 
+5 # reiverpacific 2011-08-03 09:47
Read it and agree.
Unfortunately, the "blanked-out lock-steppers" I refer to are unlikely to read ANYTHING, especially of substance. They are more likely to watch FOX fantasy and the infotainment, quality-free muck which the corporate media shoves down their collective, numbed-out gullets as stuffing between commercials.
They are the types to whom Hitler's well-rehearsed (in front of a mirror even) message resonated. Now take you pick between Glen "Muck", the Murdoch Empire, Michelle Barfman et al -distill to taste, there's plenty of them out there.
Might I suggest in return that y'all read William Shirer's "The Nightmare Years", his daily correspondence and broadcasts from Germany in the years leading up to WW11 before he and his Swiss wife had to get out for good. There are some frightening parallels to the current era of state and corporate-spons ored, increasing mean-spiritedne ss, fear of the other and the burgeoning prosperity of the corporate state's war machinedarlings like Krupps, Messerschmit, Fokker and others, whilst the population are retained as cannon-fodder.
Also, Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" and "Armed Madhouse", Michel Parenti's "Against Empire" and many others. There is a whole library of progressive literature out there which the average American has never, nor is likely to hear of.
 
 
+20 # Ronv 2011-08-02 19:46
These are brilliant but callous political moves by America's wealthiest. I am visiting South Carolina this month where I was shocked to hear that a plan by Amazon to build a massive distribution centre which would have employed nearly 1300 people full-time and hundreds part-time was stopped by the state government under the pretence that tax breaks should not be allowed for corporations. Huh? I spoke with a businessperson who worked to stop Amazon's construction of the distribution centre and here is basically what he said: The cheapest I can sell a sofa is $1100. Amazon can sell the same item for $900. We, Walmart, the Tea Party, and the rest of us, had to stop them. We painted this as a tax issue to get support from voters.

It is amazing that so many unemployed are turning away jobs and financial opportunities after being successfully deluded by the Tea Party, Walmart and all the other interests which are working together to keep American's economy in the doldrums because a handful of extremely wealthy individuals are afraid of forking over a few dollars to folks who work for a living. How long can this go on?
 
 
+13 # punk 2011-08-02 19:48
i dont think the dems did a good job at informing ppl about who tax increases wd affect. i never saw anything that said at what income the increase wd kick in or what the rate wd be. i think it scared a lot of ppl in the upper-middle income brackets that increases wd affect them.

i see some1 is saying 'to the streets!'
it has to be something big. if 50-100 ppl show up, its worse than nothing. there is supposed to be a demonstration in DC in october. www.October2011.org
if 50,000 ppl dont show up, then invest in lockheed, haliburton, or xe cuz we will be at war forever.
 
 
+7 # grindermonkey 2011-08-02 20:33
I have wealthy people, professional people, smart people living all around me. They are as horrified at this spectacle of mismanagement as much as the poorest commenter here. This is not about poor against rich it is an institutional failure, a political meltdown, an inability to comprehend and direct the most basic economic principles and the role that government plays in a modern democracy. Like a horse drawn carriage on a busy freeway.
 
 
+5 # chick 2011-08-03 08:23
Well I also know some very wealthy people and they ae horrified that their taxes would go up.

They are very happy with the Republican party so what does that prove? Nothing.

It just comes down to the fact if you have money you are satisfied with everything including the Republican party which they will vote for again and again.

And if you are middle class or poor or elderly on SS or a kid hungry than you most certainly do not like the Republican party. They are a greedy party, they have plenty but want more, and more and more.
 
 
+2 # grindermonkey 2011-08-03 10:39
Dear Chick,
You post alludes to an artificial class division among the voters that has been contrived by the media in an effort to sell the products sponsoring their broadcasts. This effort has not been unsuccessful but buying into it is neither healthy or rational; all of us rich and poor alike live together and form the good faith relations we have with one another.

The Republican Party as you point out capitalizes and feeds on this distortion. If there is for example a "middle class" then the pertinent question is what labels are suggested by the other classes; what are their characteristics ? We hear nothing of this because the "other classes" are mindless consumers of nonsense and political bilge and do not warrant recognition or merit by the media. Your perception is astute but your labels fit with the media propaganda.
 
 
+5 # grannym 2011-08-02 20:33
Let's admit it, sad as it may be to do so. We elected a lying wimp whose main goal is to please the Rethuglicans. We need a President, and we ain't got one. We have, instead, a kept boy.
 
 
+8 # ABen 2011-08-02 22:05
granny,I though petulant whining was confined to the Teabaggers. Direct your anger to places where it can do some good, like getting more Dems elected to the House and Senate or into your state legislature. Getting Liberals and Progressives to carp about this Dem President is exactly what the Neo-cons and Teabaggers want.
 
 
-1 # Progressive Patriot 2011-08-03 03:55
And there don't appear to be _any_ alternatives on the horizon. In retrospect, I didn't vote for Hillary because I _knew_ the Clintons are 100% corporatist. Obama has turned out worse. At least Hillary might have had the balls to stand up to the TeaTHUGliklans. Obama obviously has none.

I'm not sure that McLame and the brunette bimbo from Wasilla _would_ have been any worse. At least we _knew_ what they were.

Now I realize what I wasn't seeing at the time ... _nobody_ rises to the top that fast unless they've got the corporations behind them.
 
 
+5 # thomas lawrence 2011-08-02 20:39
tpc@mcn.org

The answer according to Russ Baker is George H.W. Bush who appears on a J. Edgar Hover memo in 1963 listing "George Bush of the CIA" Baker gives lts of circumstantial evidence for HW's role in the assassination. Kennedy wantd to remove the Oil Depletion Allowance, and Dresser Industries didn't want that, for sure.
 
 
-3 # for parity 2011-08-03 13:08
Kennedy (both JFK and Bobby) wanted to kill Castro too, remember? Staunchly anti-communist, they were. And Oswald was a wanna bee accepted communist - a nut case wanting to be accepted.

Conspiracy theories almost always get in the way of logic and the facts.
 
 
0 # lark3650 2011-08-03 15:47
Please take the time to read L. Fletcher Prouty's book, JFK - The CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy. It provides insight into the workings of our government.
 
 
-2 # for parity 2011-08-02 23:05
Hmm -- article references:

"As the Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz points out, in the past 10 years the income of the top 1% has risen by 18%."

Let's look at the numbers. Well, I don't know what's happened to the income percentage of the top 1% during Obama's first two years - I only see it compiled thru 2008.

So... Income share of top 1%

Enter Clinton:

1993 - 13.79%
1994 - 13.80%
1995 - 14.60%
1960 - 16.04%
1997 - 17.38%
1998 - 18.47%
1999 - 19.51%
2000 - 20.87%

Up 51%

Enter Bush:

2001 - 17.53%
2002 - 16.12%
2003 - 16.77%
2004 - 19.00%
2005 - 21.20%
2006 - 22.06%
2007 - 22.83%
2008 - 20.00%

Up 11.55%

Of course, the average CEO Pay to average worker pay soared meteoricly during the Clinton era, only to fall back in all 8 years of the Bush era.

http://www.aflcio.org/corporatewatch/paywatch/images/2010_trend_chart_2.gif
 
 
+2 # SOF 2011-08-02 23:16
I keep having the thought/feeling that our best chance may be to find commonality with the TParty. It seems it started with anger over the state of the country. Tho they draw different conclusions about blame (misinformed and misguided) I see we on the left are just as angry -and they would say misinformed and misguided. The problem is so deep and complicated, ane goes so far back into murky secrets, and the people so spoiled and uneducated.... that we need a kind of soul-searching and illusion-poppin g review of what our values are. Meanwhile, the TParty will find out they screwed themselves -or they'll blame it all on the black, muslim, socialist, fascist president -but they'll be feeling the pinch soon enough because TParty folks are not the wealthy, We are all pissed! I don't know how, but I'm pretty sure we need all hands on deck to fight the Filthy rich. Even crazier than that idea is that I remember the myth of Satan's oath to prove to God that humans are not worth God's Love. Perhaps Evil is not to strong a word.... just sayin', and can hardly believe I did. But I know the polarization of the screwed is only good for those tightening the screw.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-03 07:54
tp are the whores who will sell anything for a price
 
 
+3 # for parity 2011-08-03 13:06
I'll say the same thing to you that I'd say to one of them saying anything similar to a progressive/leftist/whatever:

That is an intolerant ignorant slur - borders on bigotry.

Everyone not only has the right to stand for their beliefs, they have the right to be heard - and others have the obligation to listen and consider what is being expressed.

This country needs to learn how to debate again.

Not that I agree with them, but you might have missed the polls which showed that nationally, 67% supported the House Republican bill - the Cut, Cap and Balance Bill. Most all polls showed a super majority simply not wanting to raise the debt ceiling. A majority want a balanced budget amendment.

Now - a majority also said that they want a balanced approach.

The TP opposed it - the left opposed it.

Welcome to American politics - but always remember, and I suspect that your personal views represent a very thin minority, make your case, but do it with respect and with some sense of I have something worth listening to, as well.

Don't call the other side whores - unless you want to start a war. Right speech is always preferable.
 
 
+2 # Progressive Patriot 2011-08-03 03:48
Is the "Super Congress" even Constitutional?

Did the TeaTHUGliklans put a statement in the bill showing the section that authorizes such an action?

Hey, it's _THEIR_ rule.
 
 
+7 # jrob 2011-08-03 05:23
This deal cuts the legs from under the already-feeble recovery. It's a disaster because a) the economy will be in even worse shape as voters go to the polls next November, and b) it will encourage growth of the t-party, who will crow "look what we did with only 80 people in Congress, imagine what we can do with another 100!" The Nazis came to power(backed by the industrialists) in similar fashion, growing from a handful in the Reichstag to a large (controlling) minority that was finally able to insist that their leader be appointed Chancellor. We've got the anemic economy, and the up-and-coming rightwing party (backed by big money industrialists) , so all we're missing is the charismatic leader. We'd better hope that none emerges.
 
 
+4 # Karin Bentley 2011-08-03 05:32
I would say by what is going on, the next thing you know there will be either starvation or death camps,thanks to your republicans and the richies that sponser them,hitler used gas,the other will just let you starve. and the rich will continue to get fat off of those that are still alive and working.
 
 
+5 # Oligarch 23 2011-08-03 13:18
Actually with people armed to the teeth and the TP-ers calling for 2nd amendment solutions, the sheeple will off themselves for us oligarchs. Of course the camps will come in handy at some point, as will the military now that Posse Commitatus is gone. I believe we are approaching a situation where the military will be one of the few employment opportunities offered.
 
 
+5 # bobby t. 2011-08-03 07:05
we need to refocus, and get our eye on the ball of defeating the people who brought us the wars with no end in sight.
cut and run? can't do that. defense spending must be huge along with the political pressure to keep it that way/jobs are involved there too.... catch 22. it is indeed a quagmire, and there are no Paris peace talks.

Obama looks horrible and because of the theory of raised expectations righteous anger ensues.



no single payer, no peace, no jobs, no money....etc..

he knows we need government spending which was the lesson of the great depression, but he can't get the money because the right has convinced the un educated that taxes can't be raised, even to save starving children. it is sick, but it is the reality he is dealing with and no one wants to cut the guy a break....they are so mad they are not thinking.....gr eat, now the rightwing is laughing. are we all idiots here? time to get tough. time to fight back together. the democrats were a will rogers joke, and still are. they never learn. not one republican broke the ranks. not one. they will always defeat us that way, and they know it.
 
 
+5 # bobby t. 2011-08-03 07:07
time to fight back together. the democrats were a will rogers joke, and still are.
we never learn.
look, not one republican broke the ranks. not one. they will always defeat us that way, and they know it. read rove's lips this time. no new taxes. the kid learned his lesson from his father's mistake. (actually his father george h. raised taxes to prevent a recession. he was a great president compared to the idiot son. and he didn't invade bagdad did he? he told reagan not to do that when he was cia director and he kept his word and advice. he should get props for that. instead he is made to look stupid. again, the guy was cia director and a navy pilot. )
 
 
+8 # VSweet 2011-08-03 12:36
The Koch Brothers, the billionaires, the powerful rich, Republicans and T Party are celebrating their victories now.

Yes, they have demonstrated their wealth with power to bring down the working class, poor, and senior citizens of this nation morally.

Those who laught first, will laugh last!

Their is no economic growth in ths nation. Unemployment is still rising, more cuts are expected to our vulnerable citizens.

All these notable rapers of our nation's citizens and especially the T Party and the evil Republicans will be in mourning with grief! Very soon their money will be worthless, stock markets and businesses will crash! The United States the new POLITICAL BABYLON will take a great and mighty FALL!

They forgot one thing! We the People, (poor, working class, senior citizens, etc.) are the real reasons this nation was thriving. We ARE the real consumers of this nation!When we are without, what will the RICH, POWERFUL and GREEDY DO?

Our great and grandparents survived the Great Depression. They lost trust in the government, banking industry, etc.
Here we are today repeating history. When will we learn?
 
 
+5 # wrodwell 2011-08-03 16:32
"What hope do we have of resisting a force we don't even see?" What a pathetic comment! What good will reading this sort of treacle do? This is a strange comment from a Brit who's no doubt aware of the "powers behind the scenes" being brought to light in the Murdoch scandal. Wanna know who else besides the Koch Brothers are the powers behind the scenes here in the USA?" How about putting a pack of intrepid investigators to work exploring who the big lobbying firms represent. That would be a good place to start - by following the money trail.
 
 
+5 # Jim Bains 2011-08-03 22:00
We are already sinking in Republican cuts and Democratic compromises. Working people are sick and tired of being the victims of these "negotiations" and it looks like we're being screwed again. The deal is between the Tea Party fanatics and the Wall Street wings of the Democratic and Republican parties and working people and progressives are being sold down the river again.
The Democrats agreed to extend the billionaire tax cuts even when they had majorities in both houses of Congress, supposedly in exchange for Republican support for the "bipartisan" stimulus for financial institutions. What did working people get out of that except the small portion used to bail out Chrysler and General Motors? The bankers and stockbrokers got the rest.
 
 
+3 # Sir Real 2011-08-04 06:32
We have to join forces to win back our America,you know,the America where we look after each other,we care if someone is harmed. Some inspiration from The Beatles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e7AQQTONvg&feature=related

Labor and those who still have jobs must join forces with,the unemployed the working poor,environmen talists and civil rights activists.Our interests all coincide at equality and fairness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiAl84ipIk&NR=1

The rich and powerful have all the money in the world and all of the Republicans, most of the Tea Baggers and enough Democrats have succumbed to the campaign cash and the "educational fact finding trips" and "educational opportunities" offered by groups like ALEC and Americans For Prosperity,dang ling shiny trinkets and baubles. Both groups work for the prosperity of the wealthy at the expense of our society as a whole.

John Lennon knew what put the fear in the powerful and wealthy. The people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU
Karma rules in the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4&NR=1
 
 
+3 # Jeanne Brown 2011-08-04 10:30
The Democrats give their leader little support and then scream when he has to compromise. What they need to be doing, is to build up the evidence showing that the Tea Party leaders' real objective is to weaken the government of the United States. Most of their members are new to politics and have been working against their own best interests. If the Democrats could show them how they've been duped, we could have some very angry people out there just in time for the 2012 election. Spend time on that rather than picking on our president! Be Smart for once!
 
 
+1 # HomeyChingaso 2011-08-04 14:22
The cognitive dissonance suffered by the Right was expertly engineered by the genius of the conservative media. First, over 20 years ago, they began a campaign to disredit truthful and objective reporting as "liberal bias." Today, when a conservative hears a story he doesn't like, he has the option to dismiss it as just being "liberal." Second, they've convinced their audience that they are the only place to get "real" news. So the very people that need to hear the truth never hear it. Instead, they listen to their guy on the radio, believe (literally) anything they read in a chain email, and watch Fox News; to the exclusion of any and all other outlets.

Opinion is treated as fact, and facts are dismissed as merely opinion. Whether something is true or not seems to have little relevance. These people don't as much vore for a Republican candidate, as much as the vote against a Democratic opponent. The Right has successfully scared the sh!t out of their base, or angered them into voting completely against their own economic best interest.

We should always:
1. Ask ourselves "who ultimately benefits from me believing what I'm being told?" Follow the money.
2. Understand that opinion+emotion doesn't = fact, it only = a strong opinion.
3. Recognize that just because we agree with someone, doesn't mean they're telling us the truth.
 

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