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Pierce writes: "On Tuesday, right about at lunchtime, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer dropped down the street to the White House to have a chat with the president*. What followed was a piece of video that will live forever as a window into this sludgepot of a political moment."

Nancy Pelosi. (photo: Aaron P. Bernstein/Getty)
Nancy Pelosi. (photo: Aaron P. Bernstein/Getty)


Nancy Pelosi Just Mocked the President* to His Face in the Oval Office

By Charles Pierce, Esquire

13 December 18


So much for the Liberal Sellout.

n Tuesday, right about at lunchtime, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer dropped down the street to the White House to have a chat with the president*. What followed was a piece of video that will live forever as a window into this sludgepot of a political moment. It is not that remarkable if you've ever watched Question Time from any of the various parliaments around the world. (I mean, holy Oliver Cromwell, somebody presented the mace in the House of Commons on Monday.) But, because the American government is greased by tawdry piety and transparently artificial civility, the meeting might as well have taken place in the Octogon.

The single most lasting impression of this altogether remarkable bit of reality-show theater was the look we got into what happens when people tell this particular president* that he can't have what he wants.

Watch as Pelosi tries, not altogether angrily, to explain to him that he doesn't have the votes for the big, beautiful, stupid wall for which, of course, Mexico is going to pay. She says the votes aren't there. He keeps saying he can get them instantly, but that the problem is that he can't get the votes in the Senate. They're both right. He doesn't have the votes in either place. But he runs down all the applause lines that get the rubes all ginned up at his rallies, and Pelosi keeps calmly telling him that, while he's as full of shit as the Christmas goose, nevertheless he and his big, beautiful, stupid wall should get further stuffed anyway.

(You should also notice that, off to one side, Mike Pence clearly has been shot with the trank gun by the Secret Service.)

Even Schumer suddenly discovers a thin vein of iron in his spine and maneuvers El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago into bragging about shutting down the government unless he gets his way, thereby undercutting any political strategy the Republicans in Congress might have been developing to blame a prospective shutdown on the Democrats. That sound you hear is the Republican congressional leadership taking delivery of a barge-load of bourbon.

Welcome to the next two years, and thank nature's god for them.

Pelosi has the president in her pocket and she knows it. (It will dawn on him eventually, too. Maybe.) The House controls the budget and, in January, the Democratic Party will hold the House. Since any argument about Pelosi's being an Accommodating Liberal Sellout should die with the release of this video, she will be the Speaker—and, as such, she can shred his administration*. This is the most essential part.

PELOSI: You have the White House. You have the Senate. You have the House of Representatives. You have the votes. You should pass it.

TRUMP: No, we don't have the votes, Nancy, because in the Senate we need 60 votes, and we don't have it (ph).

PELOSI: No, no, but in the House, you could bring it up right now.

TRUMP: Yes, but I can't -- excuse me, but I can't get it passed in the House if it's not going to pass in the Senate; I don't want to waste time.

PELOSI: Well, the fact is, you can get it started that way.

TRUMP: The House we could get passed very easily, and we do.

PELOSI: OK, then do it. Then do it.

You can even do it now, in the last few weeks of the Republican majority, and it still might not pass. (Outgoing Speaker Paul Ryan is too exhausted from burnishing his own faded legend to whip votes for a measure that is DOA on the other side of the Capitol.) She knows he's a loser here, and she will patiently explain how he's a loser as many times as he wants to say he's not. Later:

TRUMP: If I needed the votes for the wall in the House, I would have them in one session; it would be done.

PELOSI: Well, then go do it. Go do it.

TRUMP: It doesn't help, because we need 10 Democrats in the Senate.

PELOSI: No, don't put it on the Senate; put it on -- put it on the negotiation.

TRUMP: OK, let me ask you this, just -- and we're doing this in a very friendly manner. It doesn't help for me to take a vote in the House where I will win easily with the Republicans.

PELOSI: You will not win.

Loser.

As I said, this was a notable exchange only in that it happened among American politicians. There are exchanges overseas that make this sound like a Sunday school chorale. But that's what makes it all the more compelling. It happened here, and in the White House, and in the president*'s face. Fundamentally, this was mockery, and eminently well-deserved. And, in case anyone, including the president*, missed the point, Pelosi was more than happy to sharpen it for him. From Politico:

“It’s like a manhood thing with him — as if manhood can be associated with him,” she deadpanned. “This wall thing.”

Deadpanned. Emphasis on "dead."

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+50 # bubbiesue 2018-12-13 10:30
Unfortunate, but true. Onward, Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer.
 
 
+28 # HarryP 2018-12-13 12:41
It’s time for Pierce to stop referring to Trump as “president*,”

Time to switch to Individual-1.”
 
 
+6 # treerapper 2018-12-14 06:34
How about "creature" since using any other reference ends up being an insult to the word used and what it implies.
 
 
+14 # Robbee 2018-12-13 14:01
Nancy Pelosi Just Mocked the President* to His Face in the Oval Office
By Charles Pierce, Esquire
13 December 18

- this was strictly a power play - by dickhead to nancy and chuck, to try to bully them in the white house on camera -

nancy and chuck gave as good as they got, bullied right back!

later nancy attacked dickhead's "manhood"!

a little bird tells me that dickhead won't try that again?

one day soon dickhead will sign a bill to extend the borrowing limit, to pay for tax cuts for the rich and for corporations, that dickhead declared would pay for themselves?

when he does there will be little money for a wall - and mexico will pay none of it!
 
 
-10 # Dale 2018-12-13 14:48
I dont read mockery but accomdation in this exchange. Pelosi is a corporate Democrat and we can expect her to resist any meaningful change.
 
 
+26 # Wise woman 2018-12-13 16:33
Trump is clueless! He doesn't even recognize when he's been done in by a dem no less. The epitome of a moron. Thanks Nancy for a brilliant performance. You made my day.
 
 
-4 # lfeuille 2018-12-14 01:12
Pelosi is an accommodating liberal sellout, but her opposition this time was even worse. No progressives challenged her.

Getting the best of Trump just proves she's not an idiot, not that she is a progressive champion.
 
 
+5 # David Starr 2018-12-14 09:48
The thing is, will Pelosi and Schumer follow through with their resistance. They've been known to cave before.
 
 
-6 # Robbee 2018-12-14 13:36
Quoting David Starr:
The thing is, will Pelosi and Schumer follow through with their resistance. They've been known to cave before.

- are we supposed to know what this dog whistle / inside joke comment means?
 
 
+3 # David Starr 2018-12-15 09:36
@Robbee: It wasn't a joke. I don't joke about this.
 
 
+2 # Benign Observer 2018-12-15 10:24
It's not a joke. It's a fact. Denial is unbecoming.
 
 
+11 # chapdrum 2018-12-14 13:38
What would be FAR more impressive than this would be Congress and/or the Courts crafting legislation (got emergency?) to ACTUALLY remove this menace from office...Muelle r or not.
 
 
+2 # DongiC 2018-12-16 01:54
Trump appears more and more pathetic. This political clown doesn't even realize that he is a clown!
 
 
+1 # IAMMe 2018-12-17 14:51
Nancy kicked some serious ass. She's a warrior! (Am I allowed to say "ass"?) New-found respect for her.
 

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