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Klein writes: "The bold moral leadership of newly elected members of Congress like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has me feeling more optimistic about our collective chances of averting climate breakdown than I have in years."

Naomi Klein. (photo: Maclean's)
Naomi Klein. (photo: Maclean's)

My Interview With Bernie Sanders on Climate Change

By Naomi Klein, The Intercept

04 December 18



he bold moral leadership of newly elected members of Congress like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has me feeling more optimistic about our collective chances of averting climate breakdown than I have in years. But a whole lot of things need to happen very quickly if the political tide is going to shift in time — including finding new ways to engage the public in this fight. In this hopeful moment, I had the opportunity to sit down with one of the few politicians who has consistently focused on this issue — Sen. Bernie Sanders — at the Sanders Institute Gathering in Burlington, Vermont.

On December 3, Sanders hosted a town hall on climate change with guests, including Ocasio-Cortez, founder Bill McKibben, activist and “Big Little Lies” star Shailene Woodley, climate scientist Brenda Ekwurzel, activist and musician Xiuhtezcatl Martinez, and Mayor Dale Ross of deep-red Georgetown, Texas. The event was streamed live in partnership with progressive media outlets, including The Intercept.

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+1 # Inspired Citizen 2018-12-05 08:25
The time is NOW for a new, Climate or Bust movement to convey to the Democratic Party that their nominee doesn't deserve and will not be elected if he or she does not commit to climate preservation.

This late in the struggle for human survival on a badly engineered planet, cutting fossil fuel consumption is not enough. Capturing carbon for safe storage too is not enough.

Methane is melting NOW. We need solar radiation management to block some of the sun from hitting the Earth (actual chem trails, not the conspiracy theory) starting ASAP. In fact, some testing of stratosphere spraying is scheduled to begin next year. See "First sun-dimming experiment will test a way to cool Earth."

"The future rests with the success of grassroots activism." Bernie or Bust WAS a bust. #ClimateOrBust cannot be a bust, or else we'll truly be in the end times.
+1 # Questions, questions 2018-12-05 13:59
Chemtrails (the solar-dimming kind) or Bust??? Sorry - the reason folks react so vehemently to the concept is because it's so reckless, more tampering with nature's basic atmospheric chemistry, as well as another "techno-fix" to a problem borne of our stupidity in continuing to rely on fossil fuels long after knowing they're killing us.

YES - we need a HUGE effort ASAP to get off fossil fuels and build the sustainable energy system we need, and that begins with getting the fossil fools out of the public $$ trough - let's try actually putting more investment and tax breaks into renewables and efficiency than we still allow for fossil and nuclear.

If that doesn't work, we can always try more drastic and risky approaches - but let's not put the cart before the horse when it comes to the source of the problem!
-4 # stevb 2018-12-05 17:11
While supporting everything said in this interview I remain profoundly pessimistic because nuclear energy was not even mentioned. The next few generations will fault us for climate disaster of course but will also be bewildered as to why we did not prevent the catastrophe by ignoring the solution we had at hand. Not a single climate scientist thinks wind and solar can be deployed on a scale to stop using fossil fuel in time to prevent disaster. Just 2 years of the US military budget could build 500 nuclear plants. Leaving nuclear out of the discussion dooms us and we may as well stop referring to the climate problem because problems have solutions. We're ignoring ours.

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